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Thursday, April 25, 2024

Through high-level intelligence briefings, secretive meetings between the president and the four congressional leaders, and weeks of intensive strategizing, the Ukraine funding bill finally passed the House on Saturday with an overwhelming bipartisan vote of 311-112. The Senate passed the measure late Tuesday, and Biden signed the bill into law Wednesday.

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Biden's national security adviser, Jake Sullivan, and CIA Director William J. Burns gave Johnson a dire presentation, warning that Ukraine would lose the war without immediate U.S. support. Sullivan briefed Johnson on exactly when Ukraine might run out of weapons, laying out in detail when it would no longer have a single artillery shell or air defense interceptor.

McConnell, Biden, Schumer and Jeffries all stressed the historic importance of the moment, according to a second senior administration official. After the meeting, Biden pulled Johnson aside for a further one-on-one conversation, the official said.

As Johnson strategized, he recognized that different parts of the bill would prompt different defections: Many Republicans would oppose Ukraine aid, while dozens of Democrats could withhold their votes because of military aid to Israel. And many Republican lawmakers had also long demanded the issues be separated.

That's how he landed on the strategy of passing four separate bills: for Ukraine arms, Israel aid, Indo-Pacific funding and other provisions. Each mini-bill would spur defections, but not enough to sink any one of them.

The gambit worked; the four bills passed the House and were then stitched back together and sent to the Senate.

It can't be emphasized enough that one of the sole reasons these separate bills each passed was because each bill diluted the totality of opposition because while members might have voted no on one bill, overall the ending totals on all four bills stayed impressively bipartisan nonetheless.

It took months, but finally Speaker Johnson found a way to rise above the cries from party allies and their criminally-indicted presidential nominee, wanting to see US backing for Ukraine collapse, easing Putin's consolidation of his invasion's goal of bringing Ukraine to heel.

While many point to various polling still showing Trump in the lead across crucial swing states, these same people are ignoring that the combination of actual governing - which ignores the GOP's pet hair-on-fire issues - and the increasing daily portrayals of Donald Trump facing civil charges, lawsuits, and criminal indictments throughout multiple courts in multiple states. actually shows a GOP hurtling towards what very well could be a terminal entropy.

#1 | Posted by tonyroma at 2024-04-25 07:46 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

So, congratulations to Speaker Johnson for his skill in convincing Trump that the popular aid package for Ukraine would translate into votes for Trump into 2024.

What remains now is for Trump to convince the Kremlin, who is sitting on the precipice of victory, that the aid package for Ukraine is also in Russia's best long term interest.

That sounds like an uphill climb.

Russia has spent tons of money, over a lot of years, in U.S. politics, getting themself to the point of near certain victory in Ukraine, thus opening the door to Eastern Europe. It doesn't seem likely they're going to be happy about Trumps failure to stop Speaker Johnson from pulling the rug out from under them.

Time may not be on Mr. Putin's side. He's not a well man. Under Trump's plan, he may not live long enough to see his legacy as Russia's greatest leader carved for all eternity in Russia's history.

#2 | Posted by Twinpac at 2024-04-25 08:46 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

So, congratulations to Speaker Johnson for his skill in convincing Trump that the popular aid package for Ukraine would translate into votes for Trump into 2024.

Where are you seeing this reported? I haven't seen a single word about Johnson trying to convince Trump of anything. The only thing I've seen is that Johnson ignored Trump and MAGA because he's Number 2 in line for the presidency and realized that national security trumps MAGA politics. And his son is entering the Naval Academy and allowing Putin to defeat Ukraine would most certainly lead to further European conflicts that would involve placing American troops in harm's way.

There was an article (that I can't locate right this moment) that listed all the things that Trump has demanded his GOP allies do in Congress that haven't been done without any direct repercussions befalling the members. If anything, Johnson's stewardship of the Ukraine aid has shown that MAGAts do not have the power that they think they do in Congress.

I found the passage:

Trump told House Republicans to elect Rep. Jim Jordan as House speaker, and that didn't happen. Trump told Republicans to shut down the government, and that didn't happen. Trump told Republicans to use the debt ceiling to default on the country's obligations, and that didn't happen.

As regular readers might recall, Trump told Senate Republicans to replace Mitch McConnell as the Senate minority leader, and they didn't. Trump told Republicans to derail a bipartisan infrastructure package, and they didn't. Trump seemed especially eager for GOP lawmakers to kill an overhaul of the Electoral Count Act, and they didn't do that, either.

The point is not that Trump is irrelevant in Republican politics. But there's a myth in some circles that the former president can simply bark orders and watch GOP lawmakers obediently follow his instructions.

In several notable instances, that's just not the case.

www.msnbc.com

#3 | Posted by tonyroma at 2024-04-25 09:14 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"There was an article (that I can't locate right this moment) that listed all the things that Trump has demanded his GOP allies do in Congress that haven't been done without any direct repercussions befalling the members."

I've been slammed for suggesting that's really been the case for a while.

It's news that Trump has power to move congress at his whim. The MAGAs love it....hell, even some on the left love it because it's news and it's being used a fear factor to gin up votes when the time comes.

The fact that you can list plenty of examples that demonstrates the opposite........that's just not sexy.

#4 | Posted by eberly at 2024-04-25 10:16 AM | Reply

Trump does have a way (some call it a code) to let his cabal in the House know exactly what he expects of them. And he does so without using any form of hard copy communication that lead back to him.

If Johnson has "seen the light" or "turned over a new leaf," I'll reserve my judgement until I see if this about-face is a genuine separation from Trump or a one-off.

Since leopards don't change their spot, (to use a cliche) I'm banking on a one-off. We'll see what happens the next time Johnson has a tough decision to make i.e., Donald Trump's road to the White House . . . or what's best for the country.

Bringing the bi-partisan Border Security bill to the floor should give us the answer to that.

#5 | Posted by Twinpac at 2024-04-25 01:59 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

If Johnson has "seen the light" or "turned over a new leaf," I'll reserve my judgement until I see if this about-face is a genuine separation from Trump or a one-off.

That isn't what the evidence shows actually happened. Johnson came to understand the need to fund Ukraine as an existential national security issue, where as Speaker he really didn't have a choice NOT to put the nation's (and the free world's) interests ahead of the MAGA hardliners including Trump.

Johnson just went to Mar-a-Lago the weekend before last so there was no need for Trump to telegraph his messages, he gave them to him personally. Can you think of a single time Trump hasn't spoken his mind to anyone behind closed doors if something is important to him? He blabs stream of consciousness utterances to non-relevant individuals in his incessant quest to be important or to simply show off.

And let's not forget, Johnson also brought the government budget bill to the floor in opposition of the MAGAts and Trump who wanted to see the government shut down, so this is already more than a simple one off. I don't see any need to wait to assess Johnson in this regards. He simply sees and understands a much larger picture in a much more complicated world than the simpleton MAGAts who're only trying to drive their own narratives and unpopular policies based on their nihlistic zero sum politics. Let me put it this way - I don't see Johnson as a loyal partner in the MAGA agenda when said agenda runs counter to what he'd do if he were President in that same moment. And that doesn't mean he's now hostile to MAGA, it simply means he's learned as Speaker the real master he must serve is the US Constitution and the good of this nation especially on existential issues that ultimately transcend insolar partisan politics.

#6 | Posted by tonyroma at 2024-04-25 02:23 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I just found this about the current relationship between the Speaker and Donald Trump:

The popular caricature of Johnson's speakership, however - the idea that he arises each morning with a to-do list from Trump - assumes that Trump is actually paying attention. Generally, he's not; if anything, Johnson can at times seem to wish there were a to-do list. Unlike Kevin McCarthy, according to two Trump advisers, Johnson occasionally hesitates before calling the former president directly. Instead, he and his staff often try to divine Trump's position on this or that from conversations with those close to him. Earlier this year, when bipartisan border legislation in the Senate appeared close to passage, Johnson was "asking a lot of people around Trump what he should do," said one of the Trump advisers, who requested anonymity to discuss private conversations. In that instance, Trump ultimately did tune in and broadcast his thinking on Truth Social ("I do not think we should do a Border Deal, at all, unless we get EVERYTHING needed to shut down the INVASION of Millions & Millions of people, many from parts unknown, into our once great, but soon to be great again, Country!"), and soon after Johnson declared the bill "dead on arrival" in the House. (It was "absurd" to suggest that he had done so to help Trump, Johnson told reporters.)

Richard Ray, Johnson's former law partner, told me he worries "every day" about Trump "turning" on his friend. During that especially catastrophic stretch of failed rule votes, according to the two Trump advisers, the former president resolved to vent his frustrations with the speaker on Truth Social. But aides stepped in and urged him to put down the phone. "It was explained to him over and over again, you know, It's the same thing with Kevin - there's only so much he can do with a slim majority, and these guys aren't playing ball,'" as the other Trump adviser summarized the aides' pitch. Trump, as it turned out, did not precisely know what they were talking about. "So, he got a little bit of a congressional education" on the "rules process," this person went on, after which Trump apparently became more sympathetic to Johnson's plight. There was no post.

In the months since, as Johnson has gotten more comfortable in his role, he's gotten savvier at managing up. It was Johnson who pitched the former president on a media appearance at Mar-a-Lago in April, just three days before the House was set to return from recess and the far-right threat to his speakership was likeliest to crest. "I think he's doing a very good job," Trump told reporters, calling the efforts to topple Johnson "unfortunate." "I stand with the speaker," he said. "We've had a very good relationship."

www.theatlantic.com

#7 | Posted by tonyroma at 2024-04-25 02:53 PM | Reply

TONY

I agree that Johnson has somewhat matured in his role as Speaker, perhaps slowly realizing that he represents the country now, not just a district. But I still don't excuse him for holding up the aid to Ukraine for six months, in spite of intense intel about the urgency. That was unforgivable even for a novice "Speaker."

So I hope you'll forgive me throwing off my Pollyanna garbs and sticking to my wait-and-see opinion about the sincerity of Johnson's about face. I can't swear to what happened because I wasn't there. But I can swear to the six months it took Johnson to come to the realization that democracy was slipping away in Ukraine and it was all his fault. I mean, how blind can one person be . . . unless, of course, it was on purpose at the bidding of Donald Trump.

#8 | Posted by Twinpac at 2024-04-25 06:02 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Democracy doesn't exist in Ukraine now.

Elections were cancelled. Workers rights gutted.

Zelinsky is a tarnished hero.

It's PollyAnnish to think it makes any difference to democracy who wins in Ukraine.

They aren't one.

Russia has about equal claim to being a free society.

#9 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2024-04-25 07:09 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

---- off, stooge. Russia invaded a sovereign country and is getting their ass handed to them by Ukraine. ---- those scumbags. DEATH TO PUTIN

#10 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2024-04-25 07:15 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

A Funny Flag will do for #9. He's used to them.

#11 | Posted by Twinpac at 2024-04-25 10:52 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Everyone wants to credit Jordan,
like he is anything but the Christian Fundamentalist
Nutter that he is. I credit the Biden
Administration, for knowing how to package a
presentation that would scare the pants off good little
church going Jordan for good.

Well done again 'Sleepy Joe'.

Man is playing Chess, while the GQP
is playing Chutes & Ladders...

He is 5 moves ahead of them.

#12 | Posted by earthmuse at 2024-04-26 08:30 AM | Reply

sorry, Johnson...lol, my bad.
So easy to forget such a 'strong leader's name'...

#13 | Posted by earthmuse at 2024-04-26 08:32 AM | Reply

EARTHMUSE

There's no question that the House Democrats "played" Johnson into doing exactly what they wanted him to do ~ blow a hole in the Freedom Caucus.

Although I have to be fair. Johnson WAS a novice at the leadership game. I mean, it took him a whole six months to figure out the lay of the land regarding aid to Ukraine. Slow thinker? Meh, probably.

And the best he could do on the long overdue U.S. Budget was piecemeal it into small sections that would, at least, keep the lights on. I think somebody finally had to spell out "Third World Status" in large block letters.

#14 | Posted by Twinpac at 2024-04-26 09:16 AM | Reply

The House won't sign the other part of the Senate bill - comprehensive immigration reform - because of Trump, who wants it as a campaign issue and couldn't give two s**** about the subject except for how it benefits him.

#15 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2024-04-26 03:06 PM | Reply

AU

Are you saying that Johnson won't bring the bi-partisan Border Security bill to the floor for a vote? And that the Democrats aren't going to use that super slim one vote majority to force Johnson to make a decision between keeping his job and kowtowing to Trump.

And here I was, hoping the umbilical cord had been cut.

#16 | Posted by Twinpac at 2024-04-26 05:42 PM | Reply

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