Russia says US facing humiliation in Ukraine like in Vietnam

Monday, April 22, 2024

Russia said on Sunday U.S. lawmakers' support for $60.84 billion more in aid for Ukraine showed that Washington was wading much deeper into a hybrid war against Moscow that would end in humiliation on a par with the Vietnam or Afghanistan conflicts.

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... Russian Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova said it was clear that the United States wanted Ukraine "to fight to the last Ukrainian" including with attacks on Russian sovereign territory and civilians.

"Washington's deeper and deeper immersion in the hybrid war against Russia will turn into a loud and humiliating fiasco for United States such as Vietnam and Afghanistan," Zakharova said.

Russia, she said, will give "an unconditional and resolute response" to the U.S. move to get more involved in the Ukraine war. ...

#1 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-04-22 12:45 AM | Reply

@#1

A couple of things...

1) ... Russian Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova said it was clear that the United States wanted Ukraine "to fight to the last Ukrainian" including with attacks on Russian sovereign territory and civilians. ...

So Russia seems to reiterate its claim to all of Ukraine?

2) ... "Washington's deeper and deeper immersion in the hybrid war against Russia ...

The US involvement in the war in Ukraine is not "against Russia" it is to help Ukraine protect its sovereignty.

#2 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-04-22 12:49 AM | Reply

The US involvement in the war in Ukraine is not "against Russia" it is to help Ukraine protect its sovereignty.
- gaslighter

No it's not, it's to drain Russia.

If really about sovereignty Biden would have opened up channels for negotiation before the invasion.

#3 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-04-22 01:05 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

@#3 ... If really about sovereignty Biden would have opened up channels for negotiation before the invasion ...

Huh?

Your current alias is gonna have to provide a whole lot more detail before that comment seems to be anything more than a lame deflection attempt.

#4 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-04-22 01:14 AM | Reply

The US adding $61 Billion to their GDP is like Vietnam or Afghanistan? I don't see it.

#5 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-04-22 01:26 AM | Reply

" Russia, she said, will give "an unconditional and resolute response""

Riiiiiiiight.

Right after they finish this three-day dustoff of Ukraine.

#6 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-04-22 01:36 AM | Reply

that would end in humiliation on a par with the Vietnam or Afghanistan conflicts.

She's absolutely correct, except it's Russia's Afghanistan 2.0/Vietnam. Which is obvious to anyone with a functioning brain, so maybe not to Russians.

#7 | Posted by censored at 2024-04-22 06:10 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

If really about sovereignty Biden would have opened up channels for negotiation before the invasion.

#3 | POSTED BY ONEIRONAUT

This level of dumb is astounding.

As if there wasn't diplomacy going on about it since Crimea in 2014 and before.

ONEIRONAUT's idea of negotiation is giving MORE of Ukraine to Russia.

#8 | Posted by Sycophant at 2024-04-22 10:18 AM | Reply

Idiot.

#9 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2024-04-22 11:18 AM | Reply

ONEIRONAUT's idea of negotiation is giving MORE of Ukraine to Russia.

#8 | POSTED BY SYCOPHANT

Before the war? Liar.

Nothing had to be "given".

Only guarantees to Russia that Ukraine would remain Neutral. Renounce the 2008 Budapest announcement.

Your idea, currently happening, is Russia invades and now takes half of Ukraine, Millions of Ukrainians are dead, and Billions of US dollars along with it.

#10 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-04-22 11:36 AM | Reply

This level of dumb is astounding.

Sure ... negotiations to avert war is astoundingly dumb?

As if there wasn't diplomacy going on about it since Crimea in 2014 and before.

There wasn't, feel free to justify this with a link where the US sent a delegation to negotiate with Russia?

#11 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-04-22 11:39 AM | Reply

"negotiations to avert war"

That's a fun way to describe
Unconditional Surrender

Is everyone from China this much of a weasel, or is China only sending their best?

#12 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-04-22 11:41 AM | Reply

Your current alias is gonna have to provide a whole lot more detail before that comment seems to be anything more than a lame deflection attempt.
#4 | POSTED BY LAMPLIGHTER

Yeah nah .. it's pretty clear this is just a deflection to avoid painful thoughts of this aliases preconceived notions about the Ukraine war aren't going as planned, and that a better solution for all involved existed.

#13 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-04-22 11:42 AM | Reply

That's a fun way to describe
Unconditional Surrender

Unconditional surrender of what? Be specific?

Lives? Money? Land? You tell me smart guy.

#14 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-04-22 11:45 AM | Reply

Is everyone from China this much of a weasel, or is China only sending their best?
#12 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

Ah yes, the ole I got nothing but racist "jokes".

I see you for what you are.

It must be nice seeing white men winning in sports again.

#15 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-04-22 11:46 AM | Reply

Where's the racism, and where's the joke?

#16 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-04-22 11:48 AM | Reply

That's what China did in 1937 when Japan invaded them... gave up half their territory just to stop the war.

Oh, wait, no they did-int.

www.britannica.com

#17 | Posted by Corky at 2024-04-22 12:02 PM | Reply

"If really about sovereignty Biden would have opened up channels for negotiation before the invasion."

Like Neville Chamberlain did?

#18 | Posted by madbomber at 2024-04-22 12:24 PM | Reply

"Biden would have opened up channels for negotiation"

Why didn't Winnie The Pooh open up channels for negotiation?

#19 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-04-22 12:30 PM | Reply

Is everyone from China this much of a weasel, or is China only sending their best?
#12 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

Naw he's definitely not the best China has to offer.

The best ones are probably trying to cyber attack you as we speak.

A December 2023 court-authorized operation has disrupted a botnet of hundreds of U.S.-based small office/home office (SOHO) routers hijacked by People's Republic of China (PRC) state-sponsored hackers.

The hackers, known to the private sector as "Volt Typhoon," used privately-owned SOHO routers infected with the "KV Botnet" malware to conceal the PRC origin of further hacking activities directed against U.S. and other foreign victims. These further hacking activities included a campaign targeting critical infrastructure organizations in the United States and elsewhere that was the subject of a May 2023 FBI, National Security Agency, Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA), and foreign partner advisory. The same activity has been the subject of private sector partner advisories in May and December 2023, as well as an additional secure by design alertreleased today by CISA.

#20 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-04-22 01:32 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Link for #20

www.justice.gov

#21 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-04-22 01:33 PM | Reply

"the Ukraine war (not) going as planned"

Stunning to hear this about Russia's three-day blitz.

#22 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-04-22 10:37 PM | Reply