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I find Biden's age and dementia very much a problem and detrimental to his reelection. And the Democrats basically ignoring it, won't make it go away. Anyway, just thought I'd throw this out for discussion/debate

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If they do decide to replace him; who would they pick? I'd like to hear some suggestions.

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I find Biden's age and dementia very much a problem and detrimental to his reelection. And the Democrats basically ignoring it, won't make it go away.

POSTED BY SHANE

The man is a senior citizen but there is no evidence of dementia. You could post the evidence if it existed. It is very easy to ignore a problem that does not exist. Donald Trump, on the other hand, is not doing very well. Talk to him.

#1 | Posted by Zed at 2024-04-14 12:40 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 2

lol... Ted Cruz has been claiming for the last year that the Dems would replace Biden with Michelle Obama at the summer Convention.

And now, when Biden is finally leading in the polls despite Russian and Chinese election interference, including Vlad getting Hamas to attack Israel... a former Reagan and Bush WH propagandist thinks he should quit?

Quelle surprise.

#2 | Posted by Corky at 2024-04-14 12:41 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I can't think of one single action more likely to get Trump elected than to drop Joe Biden.

#3 | Posted by Zed at 2024-04-14 12:41 PM | Reply

Corky has Putin living rent free in his head.

There's no evidence of Russian or Chinese election interference.

The only thing Russia and China have done is line the pockets of Hunter and Joe Biden.

#4 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-04-14 12:46 PM | Reply | Funny: 3

- There's no evidence of Russian or Chinese election interference.

"Election 2024: China's Efforts to Interfere in the U.S. Presidential Election

Russia opened a new chapter in geopolitical competition in 2016 when it used social media to interfere in the U.S. presidential election. Whether that effort affected the election's outcome can be debated. What seems beyond debate given Russia's interference attempts in 2020 and again this year is that the Kremlin thinks that meddling works.

Now China looks to be following suit. In February, the Office of the Director of National Intelligence issued a threat assessment stating:

"Beijing is expanding its global covert influence posture to better support the CCP's goals. The PRC aims to sow doubts about U.S. leadership, undermine democracy, and extend Beijing's influence."

This week the New York Times reported that "covert Chinese accounts are masquerading online as American supporters of former President Donald J. Trump, promoting conspiracy theories, stoking domestic divisions and attacking President Biden ahead of the election in November."

This campaign, known as "spamouflage," has prompted Meta to take down thousands of fake Facebook accounts operating in China." more at the link

www.cfr.org

You should just change your handle to Easy Peasy.


#5 | Posted by Corky at 2024-04-14 12:54 PM | Reply

Corky, this poll shows a close race

www.270towin.com

#6 | Posted by shane at 2024-04-14 12:56 PM | Reply

Most polls show Biden trending ahead.

Oh, and 1NUT...

"The intelligence community says that China, Russia and Iran are capable of and willing to launch cyberattacks seeking to disrupt the U.S. presidential election in November, according to an assessment released Monday by the Office of the Director of National Intelligence."

www.nextgov.com

#7 | Posted by Corky at 2024-04-14 01:01 PM | Reply

There's no evidence of Russian or Chinese election interference.

#4 | POSTED BY ONEIRONAUT

Not only has there BEEN significant interference from Russia and China, I have absolutely no doubt that ONEIRONAUT is part of that misinformation campaign.

#8 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2024-04-14 02:26 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#8 of course you believe it.

You'll believe anything.

But you can't prove it.

#9 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-04-14 03:03 PM | Reply

#7

Capable and willing isn't actually doing it

Tell you Lumpers have more

Because last night you and the two nitwits were claiming a photo with marines was fake.

#10 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-04-14 03:04 PM | Reply

I find Trump's age and obvious mental incapacitation detrimental to his election. Unless he's faking to get out of prison time.

#11 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2024-04-14 03:27 PM | Reply

#10

There's a ----- in your logic, Comrade.

3 whole question marks in the the thread title last night... and today you "think" almost every Intel agency in the West make frivolous forecasts.

You know, little fella, you should prolly just learn to take the losses around here, as you are outstanding in your field of whiny loser logic-free postage.

#12 | Posted by Corky at 2024-04-14 03:31 PM | Reply

There's no evidence of Russian or Chinese election interference.

#4 | POSTED BY ONEIRONAUT

Yeah! Except for all that evidence provided by 17 US intelligence agencies. Other than that, no evidence!

On Oct. 7, 2018, the Department of Homeland Security and Office of the Director of National Intelligence issued a joint statement on behalf of the U.S. Intelligence Community. The USIC is made up of 16 agencies, in addition to the Office of the Director of National Intelligence.

www.dhs.gov

The U.S. Intelligence Community (USIC) is confident that the Russian Government directed the recent compromises of e-mails from US persons and institutions, including from US political organizations. The recent disclosures of alleged hacked e-mails on sites like DCLeaks.com and WikiLeaks and by the Guccifer 2.0 online persona are consistent with the methods and motivations of Russian-directed efforts. These thefts and disclosures are intended to interfere with the US election process. Such activity is not new to Moscow"the Russians have used similar tactics and techniques across Europe and Eurasia, for example, to influence public opinion there. We believe, based on the scope and sensitivity of these efforts, that only Russia's senior-most officials could have authorized these activities.

#13 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-04-14 03:35 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Most polls show Biden trending ahead.

#7 | Posted by Corky at 2024-04-14 01:01 PM | Reply | Flag

LMAO Tell us again how it was Hillary by a landslide victory in 2016, Goober.

#14 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-04-14 04:28 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

lmao... amazing how many rwinger heads Hil can live in simultaneously.

Especially with all those velvet Elvis wall hangings and nude Trump posters.

#15 | Posted by Corky at 2024-04-14 04:35 PM | Reply

#14 | POSTED BY LFTHNDTHRDS

If it were the popular vote, as we should use to elect a President, 2016 was a landslide victory for Hillary. This is why Republicans have no interest in fair elections.

#16 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2024-04-14 05:00 PM | Reply | Funny: 2 | Newsworthy 1

LMAO Tell us again how it was Hillary by a landslide victory in 2016, Goober.

#14 | POSTED BY LFTHNDTHRDS

See post 13 for your answer.

#17 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-04-14 05:56 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

If it were the popular vote.
- what's left

But it's not.

as we should use to elect a President
-whats left

Why?

Each state has different voter requirements.

#18 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-04-14 06:47 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Most polls show Biden trending ahead.
#7 | Posted by Corky

Looks behind in all these....
projects.fivethirtyeight.com

#19 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-04-14 06:49 PM | Reply

Except for all that evidence provided by 17 US intelligence agencies.
- donnerboy

You mean the intelligence agencies that surpressed the Hunter Biden laptop story?

That caused a change in how people might have voted?

A whopping 79 percent of Americans suggest President Donald Trump

likely would have won reelection if voters had known the truth about

Hunter Biden's laptop"that it was real and not "Russian disinformation," as

intelligence officials aligned with Joe Biden falsely led the public to
believe, a new national poll reveals.
The survey of 1,335 adults was conducted earlier this month by New Jersey-
based Technometrica Institute of Policy and Politics. The vast majority of
those following the issue said they believe that the laptop is real, while
only 11 percent still believe it was created by Russia
www.congress.gov

Those intelligence agencies?

#20 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-04-14 06:53 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

All within the error of margin, which means Biden is trending up.

And the article in the #20?

Originally polled for and posted by:

"The Epoch Times is a far-right[1] international multi-language newspaper and media company affiliated with the Falun Gong new religious movement.[29] The newspaper, based in New York City, is part of the Epoch Media Group, which also operates New Tang Dynasty (NTD) Television.[30] The Epoch Times has websites in 35 countries but is blocked in mainland China.[31]"

en.wikipedia.org

You aren't very good at this facts and debates thingy. You should prolly stop now before you hurt yourself, lmao!

#21 | Posted by Corky at 2024-04-14 08:12 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Those intelligence agencies?

#20 | POSTED BY ONEIRONAUT


No where in that story was any evidence that 17 intelligence agencies tried to "surpress" the Hunter Biden laptop story.

And FYI, Your Hunter Biden "News" is coming from a website "powered" by Falun Gong.

Is that where you get your "facts"? That could explain a lot about you.

The Epoch Times is one of the country's most successful and influential conservative news organizations. It's powered by Falun Gong, a religious group persecuted in China, which launched The Epoch Times as a free propaganda newsletter more than two decades ago to oppose the Chinese Communist Party.

From the bottom of the webpage:

original story appeared in The Epoch Times on August 23, 2022. Reprinted with the authors permission.

"A whopping 79 percent of Americans suggest President Donald Trump"

If that is even true it would just be more proof that Chinese and Russian propaganda works and apparently "79 percent of Americans" will believe anything.

#22 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-04-14 08:14 PM | Reply

Re 21

Great minds think alike.

#23 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-04-14 08:15 PM | Reply

And yet years later, Hunter's Laptop is still a nothingburger. Congress should really investigate that some day and get to the bottom of it.

#24 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-04-14 08:38 PM | Reply

lol... I knew he said he is Chinese, but didn't know he is Falun Gong!

#25 | Posted by Corky at 2024-04-14 08:39 PM | Reply

""79 percent of Americans" will believe anything."

As George Washington once warned, "Don't believe everything you read on the internet."

#26 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-04-15 06:35 AM | Reply

"years later, Hunter's Laptop is still a nothingburger."

Doesn't Rudy Colludy have the hard drive? What's he waiting for???

#27 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-04-15 06:36 AM | Reply

Trumper's like the Russian bot that is the OP fear Dark Brandon. They see a blue tsunami on the horizon and they know their Orange Fuhrer is going to lose badly.

Putin will be sorely disappointed in the outcome.

#28 | Posted by a_monson at 2024-04-15 09:37 AM | Reply

Trumper's like the Russian bot that is the OP fear Dark Brandon. They see a blue tsunami on the horizon and they know their Orange Fuhrer is going to lose badly.

Putin will be sorely disappointed in the outcome.

#29 | Posted by a_monson at 2024-04-15 09:37 AM | Reply

I agree. Playing ostrich is not making the concerns go away.

#30 | Posted by fresno500 at 2024-04-15 10:23 AM | Reply

Why?

#18 | POSTED BY ONEIRONAUT

Because for every citizen to have a say in a national Presidential election, every vote should have equal weight towards said election.

#31 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2024-04-15 06:02 PM | Reply

@#21 ... All within the error of margin, which means Biden is trending up. ...

In addition to the "within the margin of error" aspect, one should also look at the polling frame.

Most polls at this time in the campaign use a polling frame of "registered voters."

As we get closer to November, the polling frame will change to "likely voters." imo, that's when the polls become more important for more than just the trends they show.

But speaking of margin of error, RCP has started their excellent Electoral College Map chart.

2024 RCP Electoral College Map
www.realclearpolling.com

Worth a visit.

If even only this once. :)

What I like about it, the chart takes into account the margin of error.

But of MoE is not your thing, RCP also provides a link on the page ("Electoral College: No Toss-Up States") that goes with pure polling numbers, with MoE taken into account.



#32 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-04-15 06:25 PM | Reply

@#21 ... All within the error of margin, which means Biden is trending up. ...

Which also means it could go the other way.

Which means Biden is trending down.

See how that works.

#33 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-04-15 06:37 PM | Reply


Because for every citizen to have a say in a national Presidential election, every vote should have equal weight towards said election.
#31 | POSTED BY WHATSLEFT

Why? Why only citizens?

Where is it written the US is a democracy?

#34 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-04-15 06:38 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

They see a blue tsunami on the horizon and they know their Orange Fuhrer is going to lose badly.

I don't know any democrat that thinks this, they believe he may win, but not as soundly as he did in 2020. They believe Biden is in real trouble, in the swing states.

Trump Leads Biden in Six of Seven Swing States, WSJ Poll Finds
www.wsj.com

#35 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-04-15 06:43 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Are Republicans still of the opinion that re-electing Trump will improve the economy?

#36 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-04-15 06:46 PM | Reply

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#37 | Posted by Angrydad at 2024-04-15 09:14 PM | Reply

All within the error of margin, which means Biden is trending up.

#21 | Posted by Corky at 2024-04-14 08:12 PM | Reply | Flag

To be honest, 1 is "trending up" from 0.

The only thing Democrats have left is the hope and a prayer that they can get some criminal conviction to stick and people will gravitate away from Trump.

IF Trump is as bad as you make him out to be, why is it that Biden is even struggling with him? Because people like you ran anyone with an ounce of common sense away from your party. See Tulsi Gabbard.

#38 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-04-15 10:33 PM | Reply

Once the convictions start piling up the demented orange pedo will get curb-stomped again.

#39 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2024-04-16 01:41 AM | Reply

#34 | POSTED BY ONEIRONAUT

I'm sure you and Donald would prefer we didn't have a vote at all. Or something akin to what happens in Russia and China, where there is no serious contest.

How much do the Chinese and/or Russians pay you to troll America? Or do you simply do it out of loyalty to your particular autocrat?

#40 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2024-04-16 11:56 AM | Reply

I think no one would like Biden to serve a second term as president more than Biden himself.

But who do you replace him with. If it's not a progressive with the correct identity politics qualities, then progressives wouldn't support the candidate.

The Dems were to choose someone like that, no one but the progressives would support them.

So, with all his issues, Biden still seems like the best of the available when it comes to presidential candidates.

#41 | Posted by madbomber at 2024-04-16 01:06 PM | Reply

"The only thing Democrats have left is the hope and a prayer that they can get some criminal conviction to stick and people will gravitate away from Trump."

Time heals all wounds ... and wounds all heels.

#42 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-04-16 01:22 PM | Reply

Biden can barely walk across grass. He is too old. He's like a bad movie that keeps having sequels. How about the minority leader or the VP?

#43 | Posted by Brennnn at 2024-04-16 05:00 PM | Reply

Unfortunately the VP has a low 40's popularity, and no one's heard of Jeffries.

Here's my Dream Scenario... Justice Thomas chokes on a gift package of chitlins, or discovers he has only 3 minutes to live, and Biden replaces him with Mamala, whom he replaces with Michelle.

Then he announces his retirement at the Convention, and Michelle becomes the candidate with Barrack or Jeffries as VP.

#44 | Posted by Corky at 2024-04-16 05:19 PM | Reply

Then he announces his retirement at the Convention, and Michelle becomes the candidate with Barrack or Jeffries as VP.
POSTED BY CORKY AT 2024-04-16 05:19 PM | REPLY

She doesn't want the gig. Who could blame her?? BTW Barrack can't be VP. He has to be Constitutionally eligible to be President if the unthinkable happens. He's already served two full terms.

#45 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2024-04-16 05:25 PM | Reply

Yeah, I know she's said she didn't want it, but the kids are older now, so...

And Barack can be VP, he just can't be "elected" President again.

#46 | Posted by Corky at 2024-04-16 05:33 PM | Reply

Twelfth Amendment
The Electors shall meet in their respective states and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves; they shall name in their ballots the person voted for as President, and in distinct ballots the person voted for as Vice-President, and they shall make distinct lists of all persons voted for as President, and of all persons voted for as Vice-President, and of the number of votes for each, which lists they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the seat of the government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate;"the President of the Senate shall, in the presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the certificates and the votes shall then be counted;"The person having the greatest number of votes for President, shall be the President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed; and if no person have such majority, then from the persons having the highest numbers not exceeding three on the list of those voted for as President, the House of Representatives shall choose immediately, by ballot, the President. But in choosing the President, the votes shall be taken by states, the representation from each state having one vote; a quorum for this purpose shall consist of a member or members from two-thirds of the states, and a majority of all the states shall be necessary to a choice. [And if the House of Representatives shall not choose a President whenever the right of choice shall devolve upon them, before the fourth day of March next following, then the Vice-President shall act as President, as in case of the death or other constitutional disability of the President."]The person having the greatest number of votes as Vice-President, shall be the Vice-President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed, and if no person have a majority, then from the two highest numbers on the list, the Senate shall choose the Vice-President; a quorum for the purpose shall consist of two-thirds of the whole number of Senators, and a majority of the whole number shall be necessary to a choice. But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.

#47 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2024-04-16 05:49 PM | Reply

"If we review the 12th Amendment, we find that there is a requirement that the Vice President must be eligible to become President. This has led many to conclude that someone who has already been "termed out" as President could not serve as Vice President; however, this does not appear to be correct.

The 12th Amendment only requires that an individual who is ineligible to become President cannot be Vice President. It does not say that someone who is ineligible to be elected President could not be Vice President.

Accordingly, the 22nd Amendment leaves open a loophole that an individual could be elected to the Vice Presidency (or the Speakership of the House), then rise to the Presidency."

cornerstonelaw.us

It's admittedly debatable, and Congress would probably have to vote to seat the candidate... but like I said, it would be a dream scenario, lol.

#48 | Posted by Corky at 2024-04-16 06:21 PM | Reply

This nonsense of Biden quitting is -------. He is the best person to kick fat nixon's ass again.

Period.

All this----------- to replace him at the convention is just crap stirred up by right wing --- spewers that want Don Snoreleone elected.

#49 | Posted by Nixon at 2024-04-17 09:57 AM | Reply

"Biden's age and dementia"

What dementia?

I wonder if this is an emerging Red State vs Blue State divide.

People in Red states almost always die before they reach Biden's age.

#50 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-04-17 10:07 AM | Reply

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