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Saturday, March 02, 2024

While the issue has not moved forward in the Senate, the Florida House on Friday passed a controversial bill that would lower the minimum age from 21 to 18 to buy rifles and shotguns.

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#1 | Posted by Nixon at 2024-03-02 01:16 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

18 is still too high.

If it was 17, Trayvon could have defended himself!

#2 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-03-02 02:07 PM | Reply

This is who the repugs want to arm with an AR-15.

www.miaminewtimes.com

#3 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2024-03-02 04:31 PM | Reply

For Whites only. All can be assured that if a bunch of dark-skinned folk showed up at a gun show or dealer to scoop up a bunch of these that the sellers would decline to sell, then call the po-po ...

#4 | Posted by catdog at 2024-03-02 05:15 PM | Reply

Hey FL, make it 3, three years old!
That oughta work!

#5 | Posted by earthmuse at 2024-03-02 05:15 PM | Reply

We can now expect Texas to drop it to 12.

This is what is known as Lowest Common Denominator politics.

#6 | Posted by Corky at 2024-03-02 05:22 PM | Reply

This is kinda crazy, but its Florida, so have at it!

#7 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-03-02 05:28 PM | Reply

This is kinda crazy, but its Florida, so have at it!

#7 | Posted by oneironaut

Its the exact crazy republicans have been displaying for decades- WHen there's a problem that liberals want to solve, republicans have to make it worse to prove that liberals can't tell them what to do.

#8 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2024-03-02 06:21 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Lower it to 16 - if you can drive someone over in your car, you can cap 'em with your AR.

#9 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2024-03-02 07:23 PM | Reply

The vile GQP fetishized the AR-15.

news.yahoo.com

#10 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2024-03-02 07:28 PM | Reply

Many is the time I thought to myself that giving assault weapons to someone with an undeveloped prefrontal cortex is a good idea.

I hope they let the kids take it with them to school. For freedom! What's the worst that could happen?

#11 | Posted by censored at 2024-03-02 08:20 PM | Reply

There are only 8 states that require a persson to be 21 to buy a long gun, and that is pretty recent. Florida is one of the, currently. What are you're thoughts on the other 42 states that never raised the age?

#12 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2024-03-02 08:39 PM | Reply

Hey FL, make it 3, three years old!
That oughta work!

#5 | POSTED BY EARTHMUSE AT 2024-03-02 05:15 PM | FLAG:

What state do you live in? You might want to check your laws, because most states have no law specifically barring a 3 year old from purchasing a gun.

Federal law prohibits minors from purchasing guns from licensed dealers, but not from private parties.dealers.

#13 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2024-03-02 08:45 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I live in Florida, where after the Parkland school massacre the age was raised to 21.

At least until things "cooled down." Now it looks like the GOP feels they can "safely" lower it back down, just in time for the next mass shooting by a twenty-something, deeply isolated, low IQ, ADHD male whose only "gift" besides killing people with an AR is memorizing and repeating Trump's talking points.

#14 | Posted by YAV at 2024-03-02 10:47 PM | Reply

The Parkland shooter was 19 at the time of the shooting, acquired his weapons legally at 18. I was thinking about his age at trial and at his conviction when I posted "twenty-something." An unnecessary error on my part.

#15 | Posted by YAV at 2024-03-02 10:58 PM | Reply

Federal law prohibits minors from purchasing guns from licensed dealers, but not from private parties.dealers.
The Parkland shooter purchased his weapons legally at 18.
ARs qualify as a "long gun" under Federal law.
The handgun requirement is 21 years of age.
The Parkland shooter didn't own any handguns, as I recall.

#16 | Posted by YAV at 2024-03-02 11:04 PM | Reply

Americans are ------- idiots.

#17 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-03-02 11:05 PM | Reply

abcnews.go.com

In 46 days 5,000 Americans, 108.7 Americans/day died from guns

So, yeah, let's buy MORE guns.

Americans are ------- morons.

#18 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-03-02 11:07 PM | Reply

What's the problem?

If you can vote and be sent to war at 18, you can buy your own damn weapon. I was issued an M-16A1 when I was 18.

#19 | Posted by willowby at 2024-03-02 11:40 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

What's the problem?

The problem is that you are making an obvious and facile comparison.

You are equating being screened, trained by the military on weapon care, use, maintenance, and responsibility - and rules including not being able to carry on base, including their own personal weapon - with allowing any eighteen year-old to purchase and use an AR with no training, no discipline, no restrictions, no rules.

#20 | Posted by YAV at 2024-03-03 08:38 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

The language of the bill states rifles and shotguns.

You progressives wet your pants over the AR-15.

Then of course, when no one in florida cares about your opinion, you try and pull the race card.

Progressives are evil, slothful, ------ people.

Stay out of the south. Stay in your cities.

#21 | Posted by boaz at 2024-03-03 09:00 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

What are you're thoughts on the other 42 states that never raised the age?

Unless they are a citizen of one of the other 42, they should not have a thought, none of their business.

#22 | Posted by boaz at 2024-03-03 09:08 AM | Reply

Boaz is a loathsome, sawed-off Pfc Steve Green wannabee.

#23 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2024-03-03 09:09 AM | Reply

What's the problem...I was issued an M-16A1 when I was 18.
#19 | POSTED BY WILLOWBY

Are you advocating for enacting the same type of requirements and restrictions on weapons as practiced by the US Military?

#24 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2024-03-03 09:19 AM | Reply

Reiheitsgebot is a loathsome, sawed-off Audry Hale wannabee.

#25 | Posted by boaz at 2024-03-03 09:27 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Then of course, when no one in florida cares about your opinion, you try and pull the race card.

I care. I was born in Florida. I was raised in Florida. There are a lot of Floridians that care. Like the kids that were are Parkland survivors that moved into the rental house across from me when they started college. All Floridians. They care. We cared enough to drive to get the age raised. But then the red-morons decided it was time to try and lower it again. So now we got a big fight ahead of us. Again.

No one here cares about YOUR opinion on what Florida should do, so why don't you take your own advice and shut your trap?

#26 | Posted by YAV at 2024-03-03 09:32 AM | Reply

Boaz is a pissant fanboi for Nikolas Cruz.

#27 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2024-03-03 09:42 AM | Reply

Why dont you go ---- yourself Yav?

Florida obviously wants the age lowered.

I hope they get it.

I think maybe you should move to a more liberal place where you would feel comfortable. But then again, it wouldnt be florida, would it?

#28 | Posted by boaz at 2024-03-03 10:43 AM | Reply

A poll from 2022 showed that Floridians supported raising the age:

Raising the age to purchase "assault weapons" to 21 years old found 89% support from Floridians, including 95% of Democrats, 81% of Republicans and 90% of Independents. That's compared to 10% of Floridians who oppose raising the age requirement, and another 2% who are unsure.

floridapolitics.com

#29 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-03-03 10:54 AM | Reply

Florida Republicans Push Bill to Lower Rifle Purchasing Age From 21 to 18

Polling has historically shown most Floridians support a higher age restriction on buying rifles and long guns.

truthout.org

#30 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-03-03 10:56 AM | Reply

Boaz is completely unaware of the Supreme Court regularly overturning common sense gun laws passed by states.

Boaz is completely unaware of a great deal.

#31 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-03-03 10:57 AM | Reply

Pillowbitey, here's some mood music for you to suck a gun to.

youtu.be

#32 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2024-03-03 11:27 AM | Reply

What's the problem...I was issued an M-16A1 when I was 18.
#19 | POSTED BY WILLOWBY

Because you joined the military? A well regulated unit?

And that weapon was kept in an armory and only issued to you when needed because you were "well regulated". And you were never even allowed to load it (unless in a firing range under supervision) until actually ordered to (again.. well regulated). You definitely were not allowed to carry it around the streets for no particular reason or into a Walmart with you (loaded or not) because you were "well regulated".

#33 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-03-03 11:43 AM | Reply

Stay out of the south. Stay in your cities.
#21 | POSTED BY BOAZ

lol.

How about no.

This is the United States of America.

I can go anywhere in America I want as there are no internal borders here that I cannot cross. (Yet)

How about YOU GFY.

#34 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-03-03 11:47 AM | Reply

What's the problem...I was issued an M-16A1 when I was 18.
#19 | POSTED BY WILLOWBY

The My Lai massacre (/mila/; Vietnamese: Thm st M Lai [tm t m lj] ") was a war crime committed by United States Army personnel on 16 March 1968, involving the mass murder of unarmed civilians in Sn Tnh district, South Vietnam, during the Vietnam War.[1] Between 347 and 504 civilians were killed by U.S. soldiers from Company C, 1st Battalion, 20th Infantry Regiment and Company B, 4th Battalion, 3rd Infantry Regiment, 11th Brigade, 23rd (Americal) Infantry Division. Victims included men, women, children, and infants. Some of the women were gang-raped and their bodies mutilated, and some soldiers mutilated and raped children who were as young as 12.[2][3] It is the largest publicized massacre of civilians by U.S. forces in the 20th century.

#35 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-03-03 12:07 PM | Reply

"Polling has historically shown most Floridians support a higher age restriction on buying rifles and long guns."

^
Republicans say "We are not a Democracy" then get elected and prove it.

#36 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-03-03 12:12 PM | Reply

Unless they are a citizen of one of the other 42, they should not have a thought, none of their business.

#22 | POSTED BY BOAZ

They are citizens of America. The United States of which yours is still a part. Which gives them a say.

Are those deadly weapons allowed to cross state lines?

If so then we will have plenty of thoughts about that. Especially when they are used for crimes in another state.

Keep those guns in your state and you might actually have a point. But you can't so as usual you don't.

#37 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-03-03 01:06 PM | Reply

Florida should just issue them to each new birth and congratulate the parents.

#38 | Posted by Yodagirl at 2024-03-03 01:55 PM | Reply

#33

Forget my military issued weapon. I had my own AR-15 at home when I was 18, among other rifles. Unlike you, I've never been scared to death of weapons.

#39 | Posted by willowby at 2024-03-03 01:59 PM | Reply

Around 40,000 Americans are scared to death of guns in their final moments every year, but who cares about them amirite?

#40 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-03-03 02:01 PM | Reply

Oh, great. So now PO'd/Bullied high school students can buy a high powered assault weapon to seek revenge.

Yer doin' a heck of a job, Ronnie

#41 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2024-03-03 02:01 PM | Reply

Unlike you, I've never been scared to death of weapons.

#39 | POSTED BY WILLOWBY

So wanting responsible gun legislation is being "scared to death"?

I am not scared to death nor am I even scared OF death. I am just tired of seeing our children being slaughtered by irresponsible gun owners.

Why are you "scared to death" of responsible weapons ownership and regulations?

#42 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-03-03 02:27 PM | Reply

I've never been scared to death of weapons.
#39 | POSTED BY WILLOWBY

You are scared to death of having a sensible conversation about guns.

#43 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-03-03 02:31 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Willowby had some from his time in the militaty who were scared to keep on living, so they ended their lives with guns.

He wouldn't have it any other way.

#44 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-03-03 02:34 PM | Reply

Forget my military issued weapon.

Because you got absolutely BTFO when you decided to make that analogy. No, we don't need to forget that and will keep rubbing your nose in it. Military rules for weapons are what happens when common sense and data science prevail over microdick feelings.

#45 | Posted by JOE at 2024-03-03 03:56 PM | Reply

In the 60s and a following decade or so rural kids often took firearms to school. That was a time when America was a country where kids grew up with two parents; schools actually taught reading writing and arithmetic instead of BS and DEI; one parent could earn enough to raise a family and buy a house and criminality was much less of an issue; and our national culture was based on respect for each other; civilized behavior instead of trash music and leftists fomenting and dividing by fabricating differences. And we had demographics where most of our citizens actually made us a better more intelligent unified nation. Today the politicians promote a plan to keep us divided, angry, stupid with non culturally non assimilated Americans and uneducated non English speaking foreign nationals crossing our borders and oddly telling us how bad our country is. Firearms don't hurt us culturally. Leftist Democrats like LBJ and Federal Reserve officials like Greenspan that created inflation did this while they destroyed the culture and indebted fabric of our country with always more wars for cronies and others.

#46 | Posted by Robson at 2024-03-03 04:04 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

In the 60s and a following decade or so rural kids often took firearms to school.

Yawn. They also used to drive 300 HP cars they build with junk parts from the dump. They bought gas for 50 cents a gallon.

#47 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-03-03 04:12 PM | Reply

#13 Miranda obviously has difficulty recognizing sarcasm when she sees it.

#48 | Posted by earthmuse at 2024-03-03 04:20 PM | Reply

Ever since Democrat Marxists and their communist billionaire oligarch sponsors that captured our media and commonsense and freedom, our once great country has been hijacked by political losers and globalists who fight to make our country un-American and un Christian.

#49 | Posted by Robson at 2024-03-03 06:36 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

And Robson givesfinally gives us the definition of MAGA for those of us who asked when was America so great. Now we know, it was when kids could take guns to school which was ok because Mom was still getting beat by Dad and black people couldn't vote.

#50 | Posted by danni at 2024-03-03 06:50 PM | Reply

"Ever since Republican ra[pists and heirfascist bill ionaire oligarch sponsors (Rupert Murdoch) that captured our media and commonsense and freedom, our once great country has been hijacked by political losers and isolat ionists who fight to make our country Fake-Nristian-Naionalist..

#49 | POSTED BY ROBSON AT 2024-03-03 06:36 PM | REPLY | FLAG:

#51 | Posted by danni at 2024-03-03 07:06 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

If Boaz doesn't think progressives are in the South, often in rural areas, he's wildly and hilariously mistaken.

#52 | Posted by Dbt2 at 2024-03-03 08:50 PM | Reply

I wonder if there's a rightwing piece of software that spits out gibberish that reads like MadLibs (ironically enough) in response to any given issue.

#53 | Posted by Dbt2 at 2024-03-03 08:54 PM | Reply

Unless they are a citizen of one of the other 42, they should not have a thought, none of their business.

#22 | POSTED BY BOAZ

Keep this in mind every time Boaz posts a trans story.

#54 | Posted by Dbt2 at 2024-03-03 08:57 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Robotson is a regular gibberish machine.

And fact-free, to boot.

#55 | Posted by Corky at 2024-03-03 08:57 PM | Reply

it was when kids could take guns to school which was ok because Mom was still getting beat by Dad and black people couldn't vote.

And no other major country in the world had any significant industry.

#56 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-03-03 09:09 PM | Reply

Boaz is and was and forever shall be a ------- idiot.

#57 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2024-03-03 11:32 PM | Reply

Unless they are a citizen of one of the other 42, they should not have a thought, none of their business.

#22 | POSTED BY BOAZ

Keep this in mind every time Boaz posts a trans story.

On so many levels! Not to mention we don't have state citizenship! WHAT? You're a resident of a state, not a citizen of a state.

#58 | Posted by YAV at 2024-03-04 10:07 AM | Reply

I live in a city in the glorious South BOAZ and you don't speak for me. Marjorie Stoneman Douglas High School is also here in the glorious South but those 17 kids are still dead and you still can't get their blood off your hands. It will never wash off. Someday at your funeral prople will ask ... .is thT blood on bis hands?

#59 | Posted by danni at 2024-03-04 10:30 AM | Reply

Leave it to Danni to be ------- retarded with her number 50.

He didn't say everything was perfect back then, but there were aspects of the time that were better than today, and one of those were how people and especially older teens viewed, used, and had guns.

But you can't argue that so you look just next to what his point was and go off on a stupid tangent.

Can you refute anything he actually said, or just the strawman you built out of the edges of what he said?

#60 | Posted by kwrx25 at 2024-03-04 10:45 AM | Reply

Fools like Willowby think we're scared of guns. That's hilarious, guns are inanimTe objects. No id it is pschos like you that we fear will get guns as they do every week in this country because the NRA buys Republicans in Congress .

#61 | Posted by danni at 2024-03-04 10:50 AM | Reply

That's hilarious, guns are inanimate objects.

#61 | POSTED BY DANNI AT 2024-03-04 10:50 AM | FLAG:

Danni out of.. right field? Agreeing with the gun nuts.

#62 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2024-03-04 10:55 AM | Reply

Yeah KWRX25 I'm pretty old. I remember those days when Amerika was s great. Thery were still lynchinvg blac people right here in sunny Florida as recently as the 1950's, schools were segregated and black people were served at restaurants through the back door. And gay men were beaten with clubs just because cops had power and today fhey dkn't do anything at all because socifety took aaay theiricense tl kill people. Yeah I know exactly shar MAGA means but we judt have a fundamdntal difference about ghe definition of the word "Grdat." Most Americans don't think kids mringing guns to school was great. Most of us think only psychos think that was great!

#63 | Posted by danni at 2024-03-04 11:06 AM | Reply

Friends, before you buy Junior his first AR-15 make sure it is aJoel Osteen signature AR-15 equipped with his patented AI Thought/Prayer Generator that semds out thoughts and prayers every time Junior pulls the trigger. The psrents of the kids he kills will thank you because they will know their children went straight to heaven to sit next to Jesus because they were killed with a Christian weapon and your Congressional Representatives won't have to wonder if their votes helped to put more guns in the hands of high school kids because the students killed with those sacred weapons go directly to heaven to be with Jesus. Just remember guns don't kill people but Christian Psychos send lots of prople on paid vacations to Heaven.

#64 | Posted by danni at 2024-03-04 11:16 AM | Reply

This whole argument is ridiculous. If you can be issued an assault rifle at 18 years of age and sent into combat, why shouldn't you be able to own your own.

#65 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-03-04 02:57 PM | Reply

#65 See #20, ------.

#66 | Posted by JOE at 2024-03-04 03:04 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

with allowing any eighteen year-old to purchase and use an AR with no training, no discipline, no restrictions, no rules.

#20 | POSTED BY YAV

No training!? They sit around playing Call of Duty (or something similar) with most of their free time. How is that not extensive training!?

#67 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2024-03-04 03:21 PM | Reply

If you can be issued an assault rifle at 18 years of age and sent into combat, why shouldn't you be able to own your own.
#65 | POSTED BY LFTHNDTHRDS

You envision 18 year olds engaging in combat, outside of the military.
Where is that combat taking place, and why isn't combat being directed by the military?

Do you really think 18 year old civilians engaging in combat without any military leaders or training is a good idea?

Really?

#68 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-03-04 03:30 PM | Reply

Army overhauls small arms training with tougher standards, combat-like rigor

www.army.mil

It's just like shooting up junk cars on weekends!

#69 | Posted by Corky at 2024-03-04 03:37 PM | Reply

#64 Danni, I know staying on topic is hard. Your emotionally fueled so slowing down and thinking isn't your sweet spot, reacting with emotion is.

But try.

No one said the 50/60's were perfect, and that everything you listed didn't happen. The POINT was that there were other things that were good. One being that kids in rural areas regularly drove to shool with a rifle and/or shotgun in their truck window.

There were no issues with kids taking those guns into schools and shooting their peers. What were the positive elements of those timeframes that existed and underpinned this that are no longer present in our society.

If you were able to handle that question and have an actual discussion we might be able to make some headway on the guns issue. But you'd rather just yell about limiting the 2A and yell that the 50's were racist because that's all you can handle in an intellectual discussion.

#70 | Posted by kwrx25 at 2024-03-04 03:44 PM | Reply

"If you can be issued an assault rifle at 18 years of age and sent into combat, why shouldn't you be able to own your own."

I have no prolem with your arguiment but here's my quesyion: if we live in a nation that has one or more mass murders per week, usually employing AR style rifles should we do something to try to stop this trend? Or should we give the gun manufacturers the right to oy the GQP and prevent anything from slowing the carnage?
Tell upi ehat I eant. I want every Congressman who sccepts contriutions from the NRA to fidplsy a sigm that says "I support yhr murder of your children."

#71 | Posted by danni at 2024-03-04 03:53 PM | Reply

"The POINT was that there were other things that were good. One being that kids in rural areas regularly drove to shool with a rifle and/or shotgun in their truck window."

What's good about kids driving around with unsecured guns in their trucks, exactly?

I mean, it's good that they didn't get their windows smashed and their guns stolen, which is what happens to irresponsible gun owners today when they leave their guns in plain view.

#72 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-03-04 04:55 PM | Reply

#65 See #20, ------.

#66 | Posted by JOE at 2024-03-04 03:04 PM | Reply | Flag:

Stay home and lock your doors if you're worried. An 18 year old is an adult and should be able to defend himself, drink alcohol and vote. -----

#73 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-03-04 08:37 PM | Reply

#72 did you read the next line? of course you did, and of course you choose to misstate my point, and muddy the conversation. Generally means you can't counter my actual point. I'm glad you agree with me.

#74 | Posted by kwrx25 at 2024-03-05 11:33 AM | Reply

"What were the positive elements of those timeframes that existed and underpinned this that are no longer present in our society"

Broad prosperity. These days we only have prosperity for the already prosperous. Since 1975, practically all the gains in household income have gone to the top 20% of households.

#75 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-03-05 12:09 PM | Reply

"There were no issues with kids taking those guns into schools and shooting their peers."

Back then, people settled their differences with their fists.

Nowadays, Republicans celebrate mass shootings by wearing AR-15 tie tacks and lapel pins.

#76 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-03-05 12:18 PM | Reply

An 18 year old is an adult and should be able to defend himself, drink alcohol and vote. -----

I support all of those things. Nobody needs an AR-15 to "defend themselves." It is the weapon of choice for mass murderers. If you were pro life you'd understand.

#77 | Posted by JOE at 2024-03-05 12:27 PM | Reply

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