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Sunday, February 18, 2024

The Presidential Greatness Project ranks presidents by surveying experts: "Biden, in fact, makes his debut in our rankings at No. 14, putting him in the top third of American presidents. Trump, meanwhile, maintains the position he held six years ago: dead last, trailing such historically calamitous chief executives as James Buchanan and Andrew Johnson."

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"[...]scholars don't share American voters' roughly equal distaste for both candidates." "Biden, in fact, makes his debut in our rankings at No. 14, putting him in the top third of American presidents. Trump, meanwhile, maintains the position he held six years ago: dead last,"

That's just the way dumass voters are. They write off the utter ineptitude and unsuitability of Trump for the role of president as "Meh" and shrug, while losing their sheet at the imperfection of the only alternative. Then they do the "both sides" logic while Trump waltzes into the White House to wreck our nation.

Jill Stein 2024!

#1 | Posted by censored at 2024-02-18 05:55 PM | Reply

The over 71 million people who voted for Trump in 2020 are far from scholars.

They're eager to vote for him come November.

Do the 81 million people who voted for Biden in 2020 still believe in him enough to vote for him come November?

We shall see.

#2 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-02-18 06:00 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

All that fat bastard did was golf and polish Putin's knob.

#3 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2024-02-18 07:39 PM | Reply | Funny: 2 | Newsworthy 2

Obviously theses so-called Scholars are Dem Crisis Actors! - ShrimpPawHumClaudioRingerbotson

#4 | Posted by Corky at 2024-02-18 07:50 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

...It just makes him stronger...The Cult

#5 | Posted by Wardog at 2024-02-18 10:30 PM | Reply

Jill Stein 2024!

#1 | Posted by censored

Jill exposed herself in 2016. No thanks.

#6 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2024-02-19 09:43 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#3 | Posted by LegallyYourDead

He polished the wealthy's knobs too.

#7 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2024-02-19 09:44 AM | Reply

Jill Stein 2024!

#1 | Posted by censored

Another Putin puppet

#8 | Posted by Nixon at 2024-02-19 09:49 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Ok but now measure them by their loyalty to russia.

Trump's number one!

#9 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2024-02-19 12:56 PM | Reply

And on Fox News, while reporting on the results of the survey, they mentioned that Joe Biden was ranked at #14, but when it came to Trump, they only stated that he had a lower rank. While this was factually accurate, what they failed to mention was that the social scientists and history scholars, who responded to the survey, had placed Trump in the very last spot on the list.

OCU

#10 | Posted by OCUser at 2024-02-19 02:08 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

'Expert' is an unidentified drip under pressure

#11 | Posted by libs_of_dr at 2024-02-19 02:16 PM | Reply

'Expert' is an unidentified drip under pressure

#11 | Posted by libs_of_dr

The demonization of expertise is the preferred hobby of ignorant morons. It feels good to fantasize about how no one else actually knows more than you.

#12 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2024-02-19 02:34 PM | Reply

But Trump is first in the black hearts of Lumpers, they need him like a fish needs water.

#13 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-02-19 02:35 PM | Reply

13

Your continuing pursuit of relevance is admirable, however unsuccessful.

#14 | Posted by Corky at 2024-02-19 02:38 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

unidentified drip under pressure
#11 | POSTED BY LIBS_OF_DR

You might want to see a doctor about that!

#15 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-02-19 02:38 PM | Reply

Jill exposed herself in 2016. No thanks. #6 | Posted by GalaxiePete

>Jill Stein 2024!#1 | Posted by censored
Another Putin puppet #8 | Posted by Nixon

If only there was some other alternative to letting Trump back into the White House to finish destroying the democracy he openly sought to tear down on national TV ... Well, I'm out of ideas. Guess Trump 2024 it is.

#16 | Posted by censored at 2024-02-19 03:24 PM | Reply

But Trump is first in the black hearts of Lumpers, they need him like a fish needs water.

#13 | Posted by oneironaut

We aren't the ones who wont let him go. We can stop fighting against his attempts to break america when you stop trying to help him break america.

#17 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2024-02-19 05:42 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

Dark Brandon is a bad, bad man... in new yt short

www.youtube.com

#18 | Posted by Corky at 2024-02-19 06:37 PM | Reply

Everyone polled were register3d Democrats.

#19 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-02-19 06:59 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

19

Registered Troll.

Scholars are Not Allowed in Trumpsville.

#20 | Posted by Corky at 2024-02-19 07:00 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

I love the Liberal Media's headlines: PO1135809 lower in poll than Obama, Reagan and Biden...um, lower than every president, LOL. Try to make it look like it was close.

I am just surprised he is considered worse than Dubya. That loser was the worst president ever, but Repubicans continually prove that they can always sink lower...

#21 | Posted by chuffy at 2024-02-19 07:15 PM | Reply

Biden mocks the demented orange pedo who finished dead last.

thehill.com

#22 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2024-02-19 07:24 PM | Reply

Everyone polled were register3d Democrats.

#19 | Posted by BellRinger

"When a poll is good for me I say it's the best poll ever. When it's bad I say it's fake"

-trump, and also you

#23 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2024-02-19 07:33 PM | Reply

The James Buchanan Society protests. "There goes our notoriety. Now why would we be relevant?"

#24 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2024-02-19 07:45 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

It is not a fair poll. Experts tend to be educated, intelligent people. Educated intelligent people tend to be Democrats.

#25 | Posted by moder8 at 2024-02-20 01:27 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Jill Stein 2024!

#1 | Posted by censored

That Putin fan girl?!

#26 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2024-02-20 02:20 AM | Reply

Here's the list from those who put it together: www.brandonrottinghaus.com

The names often change position - Ike, for example, is more highly rated now than he was years ago - although doubtful if dramatically so. Trump's lock on that dead-last position certainly isn't going to change anytime soon, though. Unless he gets in again. In which case he'll compete against himself for worst prez, ever. And, win or lose, he'll still be the biggest lewzer. So much winning.

#27 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2024-02-20 06:56 AM | Reply

The GOP has had quite a run in the Terrible POTUS department lately.
I mean G. Dubya, Trump...where do you go from there?

What could possibly serve as an encore to that mound of stinking feces?

#28 | Posted by earthmuse at 2024-02-20 07:01 AM | Reply

EARTHMUSE

"What could possibly serve as an encore to that mound of stinking feces?"

It's too late to change horses now but the GOP is heavily invested in the mission, with or without Trump. I'm almost certain that the GOP is worried about the domino effect of Trump's convictions are having on moderates. The GOP doesn't have the luxury of puffing up their candidate on TV when things look bad. They have to look at facts, district by district, even down to polling locations and street numbers. They will know long before it's announced if Trump has lost the election.

I agree with you that it doesn't seem possible the GOP can find another candidate for 2028 as treasonous as Trump but I don't doubt for a minute that they're working on it.

They're not going to give up the mission.

#29 | Posted by Twinpac at 2024-02-20 07:33 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

It's too soon to tell but I'm getting a hint that the domino effect of Trump's convictions in New York, although under a dubious appeal, resulting in the loss of his primary source of income, property and, more importantly his power, are giving Speaker Johnson pause. Johnson's future as a Trumpling might not look as bright as it once did.

#30 | Posted by Twinpac at 2024-02-20 07:55 AM | Reply

#30 I don't think so Twin. Johnson spent President's Day getting instructions from and having a photo op with Trump:

Mike Johnson
@MikeJohnson
Just had a great meeting with President @realDonaldTrump this Presidents' Day. Together, we will grow the majority and save America!

twitter.com

#31 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-02-20 08:06 AM | Reply

Dementia Don is a stain on the US that will forever be regarded as the worst US president until President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Camacho gives him a run for that title.

#32 | Posted by Nixon at 2024-02-20 09:11 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

Everyone polled were register3d Democrats.

#19 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

We've been over this. Education and intelligence positively correlate with being an independent or dem.

So why would we poll the bottom of the barrel to get their window licking opinion that's going to be pro-Trump no matter what?

#33 | Posted by jpw at 2024-02-20 09:57 AM | Reply

The demonization of expertise is the preferred hobby of ignorant morons. It feels good to fantasize about how no one else actually knows more than you.

#12 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY AT 2024-02-19 02:34 PM | REPLY

I saw another poll where "presidential experts" voted Trump as the all time best president.

#34 | Posted by fishpaw at 2024-02-20 10:05 AM | Reply

#34 | POSTED BY FISHPAW: Trump has always been at the bottom, or next to the bottom. There's not rational basis for seeing the man as other than a failure. A dangerous, vicious failure. Just your type.

#35 | Posted by Zed at 2024-02-20 10:08 AM | Reply

Wanna know how I spotted this as BS? It has FDR ahead of Washington.

#36 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-02-20 10:46 AM | Reply

#36 Sounds more like you're trying to find some ancillary criticism to soothe your butthurt over Trump being ranked last.

#37 | Posted by JOE at 2024-02-20 10:56 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

36 Sounds more like you're trying to find some ancillary criticism to soothe your butthurt over Trump being ranked last.

POSTED BY JOE AT 2024-02-20 10:56 AM | REPLY

EXACTLY!!!!!

#38 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2024-02-20 11:05 AM | Reply

#36 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER: I've never seen Trump ranked higher than four from the bottom. I've never ranked him more than one from the bottom. Your turn. Don't be shy.

#39 | Posted by Zed at 2024-02-20 11:05 AM | Reply

I don't care where Trump is ranked.

#40 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-02-20 12:08 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Wanna know how I spotted this as BS? It has FDR ahead of Washington.

#36 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-02-20 10:46 AM | Reply |

LA Times was all I needed to see.

#41 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-02-20 12:09 PM | Reply

Of course it was, moron. If the source isn't telling you what you want to hear, you disregard it.

God forbid the last thing you're interested in doing is learning something.

#42 | Posted by jpw at 2024-02-20 12:28 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I saw another poll where "presidential experts" voted Trump as the all time best president.

#34 | Posted by fishpaw

Do share.

#43 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2024-02-20 12:57 PM | Reply

I don't care where Trump is ranked.

#40 | Posted by BellRinger

Nor do you care if he attempted a coup against american democracy or got a half million americans killed with incompetence.

#44 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2024-02-20 12:58 PM | Reply

LA Times was all I needed to see.

#41 | Posted by lfthndthrds

Once professional journalists are involved, trumpers scream and run away.

#45 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2024-02-20 12:58 PM | Reply

Oan or Faux News no doubt.

Do share Fishpaw.

Fishpaw, Fishpaw,
paging Fishpaw...

#46 | Posted by earthmuse at 2024-02-20 12:59 PM | Reply

15 of the 154 are Republicans.

This is partisan garbage. Again, no way FDR is ahead of Washington.

#47 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-02-20 01:00 PM | Reply

Of course it was, moron. If the source isn't telling you what you want to hear, you disregard it.

God forbid the last thing you're interested in doing is learning something.

#42 | Posted by jpw at 2024-02-20 12:28 PM | Reply | Flag

Just STFU you idiot. You post garbage from "Rolling Stone" as gospel and expect to be taken seriously, while telling others they only listen to what they want to hear.

Remember when you used RS as a legal source on Trump's arrest back when his home was searched? Yeah, I bet you'd like to forget that one. The thing about you is that you're so stupid, you're shameless.

#48 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-02-20 01:35 PM | Reply

I can't believe anyone would call Joe Biden, a 50+year political hack known for his poor decisions, lack of ethics, plagiarism, bigotry, stupidity, inability, noted friend of KKK membership, career crook, racist and very poor decision maker, where ethics is not in his quiver. Yet someone calls him a "good President"? Obama was always concerned about his ability. Our country sinks into oblivion thanks to the Biden tribe. How many Biden for President signs do you see?

#49 | Posted by Robson at 2024-02-20 01:53 PM | Reply

#47 FLAG: As Sore Loser...

#50 | Posted by earthmuse at 2024-02-20 01:58 PM | Reply

Robson is Shrimptaco is OneIronRunt's Lover...

#51 | Posted by earthmuse at 2024-02-20 01:59 PM | Reply

How many Biden for President signs do you see?

#49 | POSTED BY ROBSON: Very few, given that your risk MAGA vandalizing if you do.

#52 | Posted by Zed at 2024-02-20 02:01 PM | Reply

Just STFU you idiot. You post garbage from "Rolling Stone" as gospel and expect to be taken seriously, while telling others they only listen to what they want to hear.

#48 | Posted by lfthndthrds

Nothing like swallowers of THE BIG LIE giving lectures on journalistic integrity.

#53 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2024-02-20 02:02 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"How many Biden for President signs do you see?": There's this magical Trumpian idea that the number of signs equals the number of votes. You'd have thought 2020 would have cured that.

#54 | Posted by Zed at 2024-02-20 02:02 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Our country sinks into oblivion thanks to the Biden tribe. How many Biden for President signs do you see?

#49 | Posted by Robson

"OBLIVION" = highest stock market, lowest unemployment, lowest inflation in the modern world.

#55 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2024-02-20 02:03 PM | Reply

Remember when you used RS as a legal source on Trump's arrest back when his home was searched? Yeah, I bet you'd like to forget that one. The thing about you is that you're so stupid, you're shameless.

#48 | POSTED BY LFTHNDTHRDS

Lol this dumbf%#^ lived in a fantasy world.

This isn't remotely close to true.

Idiot.

#56 | Posted by jpw at 2024-02-20 02:17 PM | Reply

-------- cracked a long time ago.

#57 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2024-02-20 02:37 PM | Reply

Again, no way FDR is ahead of Washington.

#47 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

No way FDR could be ahead of Putin to a Maga maroon.

... .

LA Times was all I needed to see.

#41 | Posted by lfthndthrds


The LA times is not responsible for the information and is only reporting what the report said. The LA Times had nothing to do with it other than to report it.

www.brandonrottinghaus.com

#58 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-02-20 02:42 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#58

MAGA MAGA MAGA

You drones are so freaking repetitive

#59 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-02-20 02:45 PM | Reply

MAGA MAGA MAGA

You drones are so freaking repetitive

#59 | Posted by BellRinger

Yes its liberals' fault that your party is obsessed with a lying fascist sneaker salesman.

#60 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2024-02-20 02:47 PM | Reply

#59 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER: When you're gone we promise not to think of you again.

#61 | Posted by Zed at 2024-02-20 02:48 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

According to who? -------- and neocons?

#62 | Posted by THEBULL at 2024-02-20 03:14 PM | Reply

Trump ranks last or nearly last in every list of Presidents by actual presidential historians.

Post one that doesn't.... we'll wait.

#63 | Posted by Corky at 2024-02-20 03:16 PM | Reply

"The tally came from 154 presidential specialists who are current and recent members of the American Political Science Association. They were asked to give every president a score, from 0 to 100.

Zoom in: Abraham Lincoln topped the list with an average score of 95, while Biden scored an average of 62.66. That put him two spots above Ronald Reagan.

Top 10:

Lincoln.
F.D. Roosevelt.
Washington.
T. Roosevelt.
Jefferson.
Truman.
Obama.
Eisenhower.
L.B. Johnson.
Kennedy.

www.axios.com

same poll w link to original documents

#64 | Posted by Corky at 2024-02-20 03:24 PM | Reply

According to who? -------- and neocons?

#62 | Posted by THEBULL

People who live in reality and don't watch a news station that admits they lied about imaginary election fraud.

#65 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2024-02-20 03:26 PM | Reply

According to who? -------- and neocons?

#62 | POSTED BY THEBULL

According to historians. You know. The people who actually went to school and read history books.

Remember books?

Let's see your maga maroon sponsored alternate universe poll. Think you a maga maroon can actually name all the presidents without looking? Believe it or not there are people who actually can.

#66 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-02-20 03:30 PM | Reply

MAGA MAGA MAGA

You drones are so freaking repetitive

#59 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

You sick of maga maroons too? No way you are as sick of them as I am.

Can't wait until this chapter of our history is over. Apparently we have to wait for Trumpy to die first. Even then they and you will hang on to your maga nonsense for decades.

And Just So You Know.

I will continue to mock them (and you too if you continue choose to be among them) until the day I die.

#67 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-02-20 03:36 PM | Reply

Please, Trump is easily the best president of my lifetime from a pro America standpoint. The party that represents foreigners and illegal aliens of course hates putting Americas interests first

#68 | Posted by THEBULL at 2024-02-20 04:11 PM | Reply | Funny: 2 | Newsworthy 1

Please, Trump is easily the best president of my lifetime from a pro America standpoint. The party that represents foreigners and illegal aliens of course hates putting Americas interests first

#68 | Posted by THEBULL

Trump got a half million americans killed, partied with epstein for 15 years, and ended the peaceful transition of power.

If those qualities impress you, then you are either stupid, sociopathic, or russian.

#69 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2024-02-20 04:23 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

"Trump is easily the best president of my lifetime from a pro America standpoint."

Define "pro-American".

Pretty sure Trumpy is pro maga. Which really has nothing to do with making America great (again?).

At least half of America (likely more than half) is not pro maga. But he does not represent them nor does he want to not does he intend to.

In fact he calls them vermin and enemies and plans to "root them out".

Do you really think that dividing Americans and creating chaos with his lies and hate and threatening half of America and cuddling up Putin and other fascist dictators is "pro American"?

Really?

#70 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-02-20 04:46 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Trump is easily the best president of my lifetime from a pro America standpoint. #68 | Posted by THEBULL: The only possible interpretation of Trump's behavior is that he is a Russian wuss. Really, people like you fascinate me. Trump is loud-mouthed incompetent. Period.

#71 | Posted by Zed at 2024-02-20 04:55 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"Please, Trump is easily the best president of my lifetime.."

You write very well for an 8 year old.

#72 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-02-20 04:55 PM | Reply | Funny: 2 | Newsworthy 1

Trump is easily the best president of my lifetime from a pro America standpoint.

We're all entitled to our opinions.

#73 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-02-20 04:57 PM | Reply

Everyone polled were register3d Democrats.
#19 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

Well. It was a council of scholars.

Now. If it was the council of brain dead gullible morons, it would have been all republicans.

#74 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-02-20 05:08 PM | Reply

Please, Trump is easily the best president of my lifetime from a pro America standpoint. The party that represents foreigners and illegal aliens of course hates putting Americas interests first

POSTED BY THEBULL AT 2024-02-20 04:11 PM | REPLY

thehill.com

More than 100 undocumented immigrants worked at Trump's Bedminster resort during construction: report
BY JOHN BOWDEN 02/08/19 12:04 PM ET

OOPSIE DAISY.

#75 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2024-02-20 05:08 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"Presidential Greatness Project" is as biased and purey political as a DNC that kicked out Bernie to bring in Hillary. They made up this purely fictitious "poll" for presidential politics.

EVERYBODY KNOWS it is about politics and propaganda www.youtube.com Leonard Cohen lyrics says it best.

#76 | Posted by Robson at 2024-02-20 08:15 PM | Reply

Trump was an exceptionally poor president, ROBSON, You being stupid won't change that,

#77 | Posted by Zed at 2024-02-20 08:53 PM | Reply

EVERYBODY KNOWS it is about politics and propaganda www.youtube.com Leonard Cohen lyrics says it best.

#76 | Posted by Robson

This is hilarious coming from a guy who still doesn't realize it was politics and propaganda when trump claimed the election was stolen.

#78 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2024-02-21 02:08 PM | Reply

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