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A Florida school district is drawing fire for asking parents to consent to having their children participate in the reading of an African American author's book to comply with state law.

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Another day, another racist attack from Tiny D.

#1 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2024-02-17 11:27 AM | Reply

Disgusting.

#2 | Posted by Dbt2 at 2024-02-17 06:06 PM | Reply

The parent complaining: "The idea that kids can have a say in what activities they participate in is really strange."

The Left: The idea that kids can decide their gender at the same age is outstanding.

And yes, that permission form was disgusting.

#3 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2024-02-17 06:20 PM | Reply

Must be a shock for Gracie to find out Black Americans can be authors and don't just shoot each other in Chicago.

#4 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-02-17 06:30 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

So they need permission to read the works of Alexandre Dumas?

#5 | Posted by TenMile at 2024-02-17 08:05 PM | Reply

From the cited article...

... A Florida school district is drawing fire for asking parents to consent to having their children participate in the reading of an African American author's book to comply with state law. ...

One thing I have not yet seen is... how does this consent slip asking about the reading of a book comply with Florida law?

Anyone got an answer?


#6 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-02-17 08:15 PM | Reply

Wow, did anybody read the article? The permission slip was required because policy requires it for
an event involving a guest speaker, i.e. non school personnel in contact with your children..The need for permission appears to be unrelated to the content of the book or the race of the author.

Certainly there is reason to debate the necessity for such a policy., but I do recall my kids needing permission slips for many in school events involving outsiders.

#7 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2024-02-17 09:13 PM | Reply

@#7 ... The permission slip was required because policy requires it for
an event involving a guest speaker, i.e. non school personnel in contact with your children. ...

Non-school personnel selected by the school.

That's the issue.

Not the event, but the policy.


#8 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-02-17 09:23 PM | Reply

I was a parent volunteer at my kids school. I had to be fingerprinted and pass a background check before I was placed on the approved list to be in contact with students. Seemed like a little much, but I think parents have the right to know who is going to be around their kids when they are presumed to be safe at school, particularly in elementary school.

That being said, requiring permission slips seems excessive. The "keeping parents informed" purpose could be served by simply requiring all non curriculum events be posted on the school website in advance.

#9 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2024-02-17 10:34 PM | Reply

"I think parents have the right to know who is going to be around their kids when they are presumed to be safe at school, particularly in elementary school."

Fingerprint all gun purchasers then.

#10 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-02-17 10:49 PM | Reply

Certainly there is reason to debate the necessity for such a policy., but I do recall my kids needing permission slips for many in school events involving outsiders.

I think parents have the right to know who is going to be around their kids when they are presumed to be safe at school, particularly in elementary school.

Of course parents have a right to know what there children are doing but why does the author being African American have to be mentioned in the warning?

#11 | Posted by FedUpWithPols at 2024-02-18 03:34 PM | Reply

Florida's Education Commissioner responded:

Manny Diaz Jr.
@CommMannyDiazJr

This is a hoax.

Florida does not require a permission slip to teach African American history or to celebrate Black History Month.

Any school that does this is completely in the wrong

#12 | Posted by sentinel at 2024-02-18 06:49 PM | Reply

"why does the author being African American have to be mentioned in the warning?"

Because who whoever wrote it was "confused" about the policy, i.e. they weren't really confused but were just being obnoxious.

#13 | Posted by sentinel at 2024-02-18 08:11 PM | Reply

#11 it is Black History Month. I'm guessing that theyare inviting community members to read to the kids (says a doctor, fireman and artist) the fact that the book is by an African American artist is pertinent as part of the curriculum. I'm going to be kind and assume that was all that was meant. On the other hand, maybe the teacher wrote the form that way in order to create Faux outrage. It worked.

#14 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2024-02-18 09:32 PM | Reply

Sorry, meant to say author.

#15 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2024-02-18 09:33 PM | Reply

#3

---- off ----

#16 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2024-02-18 11:15 PM | Reply

#14

Just shut the ---- up.

#17 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2024-02-18 11:15 PM | Reply

#14

Now that is funny! ROFLMAO

#18 | Posted by FedUpWithPols at 2024-02-19 08:47 AM | Reply

America has never been a racist nation.

- Nimarata.

I can't wait to see the number of skeeters that object to reading a book by a black author.

#19 | Posted by Nixon at 2024-02-19 09:14 AM | Reply

It's Black History month.
The permission slip listed the subject - an African American author.
DeSantis went ------- over it.
The problem is that the state has everyone terrified that if they don't do everything they can to make things crystal clear and stay away from controversy, then the teachers are subject to criminal charges, loss of job, and imprisonment.
That's why so many books have been pulled.

For chrissakes, a teacher can't use anything but the legal full name of a child in a classroom in Florida without a permission slip from the parent listing allowable nicknames. The parents around me in my neighborhood were all talking about it the start of the school year last year.

#20 | Posted by YAV at 2024-02-19 09:38 AM | Reply

Actually, the permission slip was an effective technique for illustrating the absurdity of DeSantis era policy.

#21 | Posted by FedUpWithPols at 2024-02-19 09:59 AM | Reply

#21 - True, it does that, but the reason these damn permissions slips are going out to everyone over everything is because Diaz is an ----- and won't clarify the requirements, the law is deliberately ambiguous, and the fines and penalties are extreme.

Meanwhile DeSantis and Diaz get to act like they're the victims.

#22 | Posted by YAV at 2024-02-19 10:26 AM | Reply

In other words, it was yet another hoax done to "draw attention" to an issue.

Because those never, ever backfire.

*rolls eye balls everywhere*

#23 | Posted by sentinel at 2024-02-19 11:16 AM | Reply

You are insane.

#24 | Posted by YAV at 2024-02-19 11:23 AM | Reply

Why, because I carry eyeballs around in my pocket?

What's in your pockets?

#25 | Posted by sentinel at 2024-02-19 02:26 PM | Reply

And red state Republican parents wonder why their schools aren't doing well!
Coming soon to Florida: all teaching lessons must be approved in advance by the school board.

#26 | Posted by e1g1 at 2024-02-19 04:20 PM | Reply

What's in my pockets? Nothing at this moment. Let me ask you:

Is it a "hoax" that parents have to list all the nicknames that are acceptable to use for their kids?
Is it a "hoax" that a teacher is prohibited by law from calling "Kimberly" "Kim" without that permission slip?
Is it a "hoax" that only the pronoun that corresponds to the sex listed at the time of birth can be used to address a child by any teacher, administrator, or school personnel, no matter what that child's gender is?

"Under the Parental Rights in Education, or Don't Say Gay, law, teachers can't use a child's preferred pronouns. They also can't call a child a name that's different from the one on their birth certificate unless a parent signs off"

Besides all the utter nonsense of having to refer to a list of acceptable names that are allowable, this also creates other issues. For instance, this leads to the situation where "Marcia" is allowed, but "Marcia" must be referred to as "he" if "Marcia" is non-binary or transexual.

#27 | Posted by YAV at 2024-02-19 05:20 PM | Reply

It's a hoax that they can't read aloud or listen to a book by an African American author. Once people realize a hoax has been perpetrated by critics of the law, those critics have lost the room.

#28 | Posted by sentinel at 2024-02-19 09:29 PM | Reply

A hoax you just created that doesn't exist.

The reason is right in the article or if you bothered, on the permission slip.
The reason to mention the author is African-American is because this is all part of black history month.
It's not the Author's work that requires the permission slip, it's those that would be presenting aren't school officials.

It sure appears that you are trying to force things into your confirmation biased self-created and self-serving narrative.

#29 | Posted by YAV at 2024-02-19 10:21 PM | Reply

"A hoax you just created that doesn't exist."

The way this was presented was absolutely a hoax, even more so by the media and ACLU. Gaslighting people and calling anyone who points it out "insane" isn't helping your cause.

#30 | Posted by sentinel at 2024-02-20 07:30 AM | Reply

You using "hoax" for anything you don't like makes you look like Trump.
That's not sane.
Also learn what gaslighting means, please.
And if you don't like being called insane, exhibit sanity.
It's not complicated.

#31 | Posted by YAV at 2024-02-20 07:50 AM | Reply

You're nuts, Yav.

#32 | Posted by sentinel at 2024-02-20 07:52 AM | Reply

So you say.
The posts above will be judged by whoever reads them.
They can make their own judgements.
I'm good with that.

#33 | Posted by YAV at 2024-02-20 08:18 AM | Reply

-Actually, the permission slip was an effective technique for illustrating the absurdity of DeSantis era policy.

I'm going to criticize all of it.

the policy

the overreaction to it with this stupid permission slip stunt.

#34 | Posted by eberly at 2024-02-20 08:55 AM | Reply

Not sure why you'd call it a stunt. This is the way life is in Florida these days. It was all predictable. The ambiguity, the anti-Black History bent, the White-washing, turning slavery into a skills development program, can't say gay, drag shows, pronouns, on and on and on. Then you pile on FELONY charges and prison threats for teachers if they don't comply, and those that are supposed to make things clear refuse to do so.

Seriously, what do you expect to happen?

Do I need to remind you what's happening to women here because doctors are scared to death to do their jobs if a woman's having a troubled pregnancy?

#35 | Posted by YAV at 2024-02-20 10:26 AM | Reply

#35 What did people expect?:

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#36 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-02-20 10:48 AM | Reply

'Not sure why you'd call it a stunt."

I feel sorry for you if you're actually serious here and aren't being as passive-aggressively sarcastic as you appear to be. I think you know this story is a hoax, but you're probably not smart enough to realize that the hoax hurts your cause more than it helps it.

#37 | Posted by sentinel at 2024-02-20 10:58 AM | Reply

It wasn't a stunt or a hoax. It was 1) confusion over the new law and 2) the way the permission slip was worded:

So, what happened here? The incident appears to have arisen out of confusion over the Parental Rights in Education law, signed into law by Gov. Ron DeSantis in 2022 and expanded in 2023.

The local district in late November implemented its permission slip policy to comply with the rule. The policy requires parental consent for extracurricular activities, including guest speakers, tutoring sessions and school dances.

Miami-Dade County Public Schools spokesperson Elmo Lugo said in an email to PolitiFact that the event's description "may have caused confusion," but said the district is working with schools to emphasize the importance of clearly stating what kinds of events require permission.

www.politifact.com

#38 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-02-20 11:10 AM | Reply

"In compliance with state law, permission slips were sent home because guest speakers would participate during a school-authorized education-related activity," a district spokesperson told AFP in a February 15, email.

"We realize that the description of the event may have caused confusion, and we are working with our schools to reemphasize the importance of clarity for parents in describing activities/events that would require parental permission."

factcheck.afp.com

#39 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-02-20 11:16 AM | Reply

Exactly right, Gal.

What do I know? I only live here and have friends that are teachers and hear about this all the time. They are all doing all they can to do things in a way that won't get them in trouble or worse.

Don't feel sorry for me, Sentinel. I don't need your misdirected self-righteous, pity.
The one needing help is looking back at you in the mirror.

#40 | Posted by YAV at 2024-02-20 11:29 AM | Reply

-Seriously, what do you expect to happen?

I expect stunts and overreactions.....just like this.

#41 | Posted by eberly at 2024-02-20 11:31 AM | Reply

Gal, you're admitting it was a stunt.

"The policy requires parental consent for extracurricular activities, including guest speakers, tutoring sessions and school dances"

This school sent a permission slip home for the purposes of reading a book. The school can't distinguish between reading a book from the above referenced activities?

The law has them that confused?

#42 | Posted by eberly at 2024-02-20 11:36 AM | Reply

I'm fine with the school making a point.

But that's what it is.....making a point.

#43 | Posted by eberly at 2024-02-20 11:37 AM | Reply

So you say.

#44 | Posted by YAV at 2024-02-20 11:47 AM | Reply

I don't know how many times it has to be said, but I'll say it one more time:
The permission slip was sent because of the guest attendees.
It is RIGHT on the permission slip.

#45 | Posted by YAV at 2024-02-20 11:48 AM | Reply

Here's the lie:

Manny Diaz Jr.
@CommMannyDiazJr
This is a hoax.

Florida does not require a permission slip to teach African American history or to celebrate Black History Month.

Any school that does this is completely in the wrong.

The permission slip was required because of the guests - fireman/doctor/artist. Miranda pointed that out in #14 and it's plain as day on the slip.

#46 | Posted by YAV at 2024-02-20 11:55 AM | Reply

I expect stunts and overreactions.....just like this.

#41 | POSTED BY EBERLY

Retorts posted here are neither. They are just words. Expressing negative thoughts from individuals about the event and this type of insane policy.

It's not like anyone here is threatening march to Florida and attack it's Capitol.

#47 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-02-20 11:58 AM | Reply

-I don't know how many times it has to be said, but I'll say it one more time:

You won't have to on my behalf.

That's on me.

#48 | Posted by eberly at 2024-02-20 12:05 PM | Reply

Thanks Eberly.

#49 | Posted by YAV at 2024-02-20 12:07 PM | Reply

This is why I detest DeSantis and Diaz so, so much.
They create utter confusion and then play like they're the victims.
It is repulsive, weak, and pathetic.
They need to OWN what they create, manifest, and perpetuate.
They need to clarify when something goes wrong, not scream "HOAX!"

Just like when women can't get care here, end up miscarrying in a public bathroom, or sit in their cars in a hospital ER parking lot until the sepsis becomes too bad to ignore.

When an entire class fails class it's not the student's fault.

#50 | Posted by YAV at 2024-02-20 12:17 PM | Reply

"The permission slip was required because of the guests "

Look at the headline. The actual reason for the permission slip may have been the guest speakers, but it was written in a way to help disingenuous actors like the OP and the original article to perpetuate the race hoax that a permission slip was required for reading/listening to a book by an African-American author. On the off chance this was a genuine mistake, the idiots using it as an jump board to talk about "confusion" are making it look less like one.

#51 | Posted by sentinel at 2024-02-20 01:48 PM | Reply

-The permission slip was required because of the guests - fireman/doctor/artist. Miranda pointed that out in #14 and it's plain as day on the slip.

and them promptly got told to go ---- himself by legallysucksdyck.

#52 | Posted by eberly at 2024-02-20 01:57 PM | Reply

I assumed it was because Miranda was honest and upfront with the obvious but then, like always, had to add the "it could have been written to..." hedging.

#53 | Posted by YAV at 2024-02-20 02:25 PM | Reply

Look at the headline.

So you want me to look at the headline, written to grab attention, draw a conclusion from that, rather than read the actual documents and understand them?

BRILLIANT! (that was sarcasm.)

#54 | Posted by YAV at 2024-02-20 02:30 PM | Reply

Growing up in the 80s and 90s, the only time permission slips were needed was when we were leaving campus for a field trip.

If we were to have a guest speaker show up, pretty sure all the teacher had to do was get them approved by the faculty.

There were reading lists provided by teachers for all the books we'd be reading that year. But it wasn't for permission. It was just to inform parents.

Florida politicians, led by DeSantis, introduced fear into conservative parents, that teachers are nefarious and were turning your kids into transgender marxists.

Ever since then. It's become an open ticket for republicans to ban books and destroy public education.

#55 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-02-20 02:34 PM | Reply

and them promptly got told to go ---- himself by legallysucksdyck.
#52 | POSTED BY EBERLY

Miranda is a woman.

#56 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-02-20 02:35 PM | Reply

"So you want me to look at the headline, written to grab attention,"

That is the issue here. Unless you think race-hoax headlines are a totally legitimate way to grab people's attention...

#57 | Posted by sentinel at 2024-02-20 02:46 PM | Reply

You do know where "hoax" came from, right?
Did you figure that out?
I did quote it...
#46. Right after "Here's the lie:"
See who said it? Get where that phrase came from? No?

This is why America is screwed.

#58 | Posted by YAV at 2024-02-20 02:53 PM | Reply

Oh, and the headline doesn't have the word "hoax" in it.
If you have to keep lying to make a point your point isn't worth making,

#59 | Posted by YAV at 2024-02-20 02:54 PM | Reply

" They also can't call a child a name that's different from the one on their birth certificate unless a parent signs off"

Not sure why you have a problem with this.

#60 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-02-20 03:45 PM | Reply

'Oh, and the headline doesn't have the word "hoax" in it.'

The headline is the hoax.

#61 | Posted by sentinel at 2024-02-20 04:06 PM | Reply

"They also can't call a child a name that's different from the one on their birth certificate unless a parent signs off"

Not sure why you have a problem with this.
#60 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

Not sure why you support a law being written to require this.

Everyone but Florida is getting along fine without this law, since 1776.

But since you support this law, why aren't you demanding Republicans pass this law at the Federal level?

#62 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-02-20 04:14 PM | Reply

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