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Friday, February 02, 2024

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis held a news conference Thursday morning at an airport in Jacksonville, announcing the Florida National Guard and State Guard would deploy to Texas amid what he calls an invasion at the U.S.-Mexico border.

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... The Florida State Guard, made up of civilian volunteers, first existed as a WWII-era state defense force active from 1944 to 1947, re-established in 2022 to bolster Florida's ability to conduct disaster recovery and response efforts. A bill approved last week in a state House committee seeks to allow the State Guard to operate outside of the state any time DeSantis deems necessary, yet it appears the governor isn't waiting to be demonstrative.

"If Texas is helping to erect barriers, putting up razor wire, doing other things to keep illegal aliens out, I want to be helpful with them doing that, I don't want to be part of the federal government trying to tear down these barriers and let more people in illegally," DeSantis said, claiming 10 million illegal immigrants have entered the U.S. since President Joe Biden was sworn in.

The operation -- which will include up to one Florida National Guard battalion and also mark the Florida State Guard's first ever such deployment -- will take place "relatively shortly," DeSantis said. ...



#1 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-02-02 12:34 AM | Reply

@#1 ... to keep illegal aliens out ...

So... Gov DeSantis seems to admit that when he shipped immigrants to northern cites, he was participating in the illegal trafficking of criminals?


#2 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-02-02 12:38 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The GQP is sending troops to the border while simultaneously BLOCKING A BILL THAT WOULD FIX THE BORDER.

Anyone who falls for this political theater should only be allowed to use safety scissors.

They don't want the border fixed. They want fentanyl and migrants to flow into the US for the next 8 months.

#3 | Posted by Nixon at 2024-02-02 08:35 AM | Reply

OH MY GAWD NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

doing what your shower with daughter potus won't do.

protect and defend the border.

tragic , just tragic...it's like this guy doesn't understand that Biden has stemmed the tide of the invasion.

except it's just the opposite...

"Illegal border crossers total over 10 million since Biden inauguration
Total is greater than the individual populations of 41 states "

www.thecentersquare.com

#4 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2024-02-02 09:21 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

So... Gov DeSantis seems to admit that when he shipped immigrants to northern cites, he was participating in the illegal trafficking of criminals?

#2 | Posted by LampLighter

interesting point...if you're a *#Y@!%!! GD lawyer...so you're okay and prefer to leave the criminals in border states.

how many can we send to your neighborhood ?

to your schools ?

to your health clinics ?

The invasion has a higher purpose than asylum or any of the other lies with fake !! moral outrage !!.....Texas is not just an entry point but a

state dems want to turn blue and they know that BETO can't be elected as dog catcher without them.

#5 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2024-02-02 09:26 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

Texas is not just an entry point but a state dems want to turn blue

5 | POSTED BY SHRIMPTACODAN

As do all sane men and women.

You people couldn't threaten to take it out of the Union then.

#6 | Posted by Zed at 2024-02-02 11:32 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Oh my gawd Noooooo!!! ShrimpTaco is upset man!

In other news, rightwing states act like 'big boys
with toys' and say "Nyaaaa!" to the Federal Govt.

Film at eleven.

#7 | Posted by earthmuse at 2024-02-02 01:16 PM | Reply

That poor town of Eagle Pass. They did not ask for this fuster cluck.

How much money and how much time and energy will we waste this time to solve nothing?

#8 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-02-02 01:21 PM | Reply

#1 So... Gov DeSantis seems to admit that when he shipped immigrants to northern cites, he was participating in the illegal trafficking of criminals?

No actually DeSantis was giving other states the opportunity to share and understand the problem caused by our White House. Most of the MSM kept the invasion covered up. Fox and a few others have actually been showing the "Ridin with Biden" invasion reality for 3 years with drones. I like DeSantis because he is a no muss no fuss guy who does stuff efficiently without over touting. At some point our country EN MASSE is going to recognize clearly that the ineptness of current leadership is destroying our country, as well as opportunities for our kids such as housing, education and quality of life for our children and solving nothing. The cause are politicians more interested in other countries than the problems of our own. We owe these illegal invaders nothing.

When almost every state and every citizen in the union is pissed enough about this destructive invasion, and that point is quickly reaching fruition in all cities and states, it will be then that the country says if these fools that govern us and we over pay can't fix this rather simple problem of security and illegal entry WE WILL FIX IT OURSELVES. Currently candid news interviews of all Americans from Chicago to Georgia are pissed.

Americans of sense will put millions Americans ex military and non military at work actually securing our country and deporting the police assaulting, uninvited criminal inducing foreign invaders in mass. Harry Truman Democrat knew how to do it. He did it quickly. This will be a bipartisan multi racial effort that will unite us against those who initiated it. Half of the states have already agreed to combat this inept overreach of government. Most of the other half will be ready to do their part. Hopefully the people that should have already fixed this will do it without violence.

#9 | Posted by Robson at 2024-02-02 02:24 PM | Reply

"Anyone who falls for this political theater should only be allowed to use safety scissors."

You're falling for it. The previous administration didn't need new laws in order to effectively enforce immigration law as it currently stands.

Biden created a migrant surge by repealing common sense executive orders. Remain in Mexico and Family Separation were massive deterrents for illegal immigration. The data is extremely clear.

I can calculate the percentage increase if that helps you.

#10 | Posted by CommonCents816 at 2024-02-02 02:41 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

This dude says "family separation was effective."
Republicans are demons.

#11 | Posted by Kreator at 2024-02-02 03:25 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

If one of these kooks shoots a person crossing the border, the shooter will go to federal prison. If one of these kooks shoots a federal agent, the shooter will go to the morgue...

#12 | Posted by catdog at 2024-02-02 04:05 PM | Reply

... Gov DeSantis seems to admit that when he shipped immigrants to northern cites, he was participating in the illegal trafficking of criminals?

#2 | POSTED BY LAMPLIGHTER

Are you saying immigrants are criminals?

Btw you haven't an understanding of what trafficking means.

It's not that they sat in traffic.

#13 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-02-02 04:13 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#11 | POSTED BY KREATOR

You must be a big fan of child sex trafficking

#14 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-02-02 04:15 PM | Reply

"This dude says "family separation was effective."
Republicans are demons."

I'm right though. Even if it makes you emotional, I'm still right.

#15 | Posted by CommonCents816 at 2024-02-02 05:02 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

"family separation was effective."

So was the Berlin Wall.

#16 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-02-02 05:05 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"So was the Berlin Wall."

Lol just another post from you which strays from the topic and diverts from the commentary you're responding to.

#17 | Posted by CommonCents816 at 2024-02-02 05:37 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

It's highly topical.

#18 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-02-02 05:38 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Florida Man and Texas Man trying to out do one another!

The movie will be called, "-------------------".

Few will survive.

Abbott and DeSantis are vying for the, New Authoritarian Strongman Award.

They see all the simple Trumpers ready to empty their pockets for his criminal defense trials, and they can't wait to get some of that Daddy Money.

#19 | Posted by Corky at 2024-02-02 06:01 PM | Reply

What a POS, arguing for family separations. "I'm right, though." And the trains ran on time under Mussolini. Christian compassionate conservatism strikes again. Fascist @$$#013

#20 | Posted by hamburglar at 2024-02-02 06:26 PM | Reply

#20. Please explain to me how human and sex trafficking that is baked into the illegals immigration cake is a good thing. Deterrence is the humane thing to do.

#21 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-02-02 06:44 PM | Reply

#11 | POSTED BY KREATOR

You must be a big fan of child sex trafficking

#14 | POSTED BY ONEIRONAUT

If you are supporting Trumpy you must be a big fan of sexual abusers and lying slanderers and insurrections.

#22 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-02-02 06:44 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Deterrence is the humane thing to do.

#21 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

Deterrence in a humane way is the humane thing to do.

#23 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-02-02 06:46 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"The previous administration didn't need new laws in order to effectively enforce immigration law as it currently stands."

Yet policy after policy implemented by ------- (the sexual predator and fraud) was overturned by the courts.

Republicans are both stupid and cruel.

#24 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-02-02 06:54 PM | Reply

" Yet policy after policy implemented by ------- (the sexual predator and fraud) was overturned by the courts"

His border enforcement policies weren't.

#25 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-02-02 07:18 PM | Reply

I just saw this:

" Last month, Texas saw 3-4,000 illegal crossings daily in the Del Rio sector.

Now that number is down to 200 per day following the state takeover by the TX National Guard."

#26 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-02-02 07:21 PM | Reply

What I want to know is; who isn't coming to victimize jeffyjbell?

Is there a single ethnicity, language, American, {and foreign) institution, gender, race, or cartoon that doesn't have it in for him?

#27 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2024-02-02 07:47 PM | Reply

jeff gets his information from x er twitter er xitter.

Just sayin

#28 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-02-02 08:00 PM | Reply

-#28. A site called Twitchy assembles Twitter posts. That's where I found that which I quoted.

#29 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-02-02 08:04 PM | Reply

Florida law flat out prevents the use of the Florida State Guard outside of Florida. What DeSantis is trying to do is way out of bounds and is illegal.

#30 | Posted by YAV at 2024-02-02 08:10 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The facts behind the high number of migrants arriving at the border under Biden

#31 | Posted by YAV at 2024-02-02 08:11 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"What a POS, arguing for family separations. "I'm right, though." And the trains ran on time under Mussolini. Christian compassionate conservatism strikes again. Fascist @$$#013"

Lol sure, as I support LGBTQ+ rights, women's right to choose, gracefully stepping into renewable energies, an overhaul of police policy, and countless other social liberal policies.

And I am right, the concern of family separation deterred criminal migrants who otherwise pretended to be family units for their own benefit. In 2018 we had 396,579 encounters with illegal migrants, compared to 3,201,144 in 2023.

Stop being emotional, and start leaning on data. Math is what it is, your emotions are wild and unhelpful.

#32 | Posted by CommonCents816 at 2024-02-02 08:13 PM | Reply

"deterred criminal migrants who otherwise pretended to be family units"

I'm not convinced.

How many were deterred? How many pretended prior to this policy?

How many non-criminal non-pretend family units were deterred, and how many were wrongfully separated?

#33 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-02-02 08:18 PM | Reply

#33 isn't convinced, despite a 707% increase from 2018 to 2023 in illegal immigration the CBP is officially aware of. One of the few things President Biden and team changed was eliminating family separation at the border.

I think there's a 945% chance #33 is quite simply Anti-American.

#34 | Posted by CommonCents816 at 2024-02-02 08:27 PM | Reply

I'm curious how many "pretend" families there were. Is someone keeping an official tally? I think we're getting a great example of "common sense is neither."

#35 | Posted by YAV at 2024-02-02 08:28 PM | Reply

Biden should put a Border Patrol car in front of every meat packing plant, Etc that employs undocumented workers. When workers are afraid to go to work you will hear the howling of CEOs pounding on the White House door.

Biden could hand them his immigration bill and tell them to have their employees in Congress have it on his desk the next day.

#36 | Posted by TenMile at 2024-02-02 08:44 PM | Reply

#35 it doesn't really matter how many were falsifying status or not. The policy deterred illegal migration.

Let me propose you a proposition! We intake just as many legal migrants as we are allowing to enter illegally now, but only if we are simply willing to deter illegal immigration as best as we possibly can. We intake those who can fill current employment needs within the country, allowing them the best chance of succeeding, our country an understanding of who is coming into our country, and a boost to our economy.

I absolutely love a variety of cultures, customs, traditions, and enjoy hearing about other parts of the world! But it would be most beneficial for all involved to establish a controlled process.

It would save lives.

#37 | Posted by CommonCents816 at 2024-02-02 08:47 PM | Reply

"#35 it doesn't really matter how many were falsifying status"

Okay.

So you're in favor of separating children from their families even when none of them were falsifying status.

Should this effective policy be applied to citizens when a parent is engaged in criminal activity? That would really deter crime, wouldn't it?

#38 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-02-02 08:54 PM | Reply

#38 Yes.

And yes. And it's already applied to American parent(s) when engaged in criminal activity and apprehended. Minors do not go to jail with criminal parents, they go to the next in custody or the state takes custody. It may not deter crime in every case, but some parents do correct their behaviors due to a desire to be with their children.

It does deter illegal migration to our southern border, which is undeniable based on mathematics.

#39 | Posted by CommonCents816 at 2024-02-02 09:15 PM | Reply

Those family's weren't committing criminal activities. Fail #1.
Being purely evil doesn't rationalize the evil. Fail #2.
You keep using "mathematics" when you should use statistics. Fail #3.
Your stats are pulled out of your a&& and you insert percentages and characteristics that are not there. Fail #4.
You equate apprehensions with people crossing, but ignore the numbers before we were apprehending way more due to increases i border agents, technology, etc. Fail #5.

You know what else would deter border crossings? Hanging the bodies of those seeking asylum all along the border. You up for that? Let's really explore the depths of your depravity and sociopathy.

#40 | Posted by YAV at 2024-02-02 09:35 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#40 You're really proposing to hang illegal migrants all along the border to deter crossings? Absolutely shameful and extremely emotional rhetoric.

#41 | Posted by CommonCents816 at 2024-02-02 10:03 PM | Reply

"And it's already applied to American parent(s) when engaged in criminal activity and apprehended."

How often, and in what criminal circumstances?

#42 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-02-02 10:08 PM | Reply

"Minors do not go to jail with criminal parents, they go to the next in custody or the state takes custody."

Whereas in the family separation policy you want, the kids go into custody, separate from their parents in custody.

Also: What crimes were the migrant parents convicted of?

#43 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-02-02 10:10 PM | Reply

Someone on the left needs to keep track of what all of this costs, and use that in adds against these states GOP candidates...

#44 | Posted by earthmuse at 2024-02-02 10:20 PM | Reply

#40 You're really proposing to hang illegal migrants all along the border to deter crossings? Absolutely shameful and extremely emotional rhetoric.

You truly are that stupid.

#45 | Posted by YAV at 2024-02-02 10:32 PM | Reply

"You truly are that stupid."

You brought it up, nobody else here discussed hanging anybody. You did.

#46 | Posted by CommonCents816 at 2024-02-02 10:44 PM | Reply

Yep.
You are that stupid.
You gonna triple down on it?

#47 | Posted by YAV at 2024-02-02 10:51 PM | Reply

I think he is...

Apparently his obtuse interpretation of what you said is the only one.

#48 | Posted by Corky at 2024-02-02 11:24 PM | Reply

Also: What crimes were the migrant parents convicted of?

How do you know it is the childs parent?

It's something that has happened thousands of times in the past year. In fact, Border Patrol agents identified more than 6,200 fraudulent family members in fiscal year 2019, which runs from Oct. 1, 2018 through Sept. 30, 2019. This is at a time when Border Patrol agents apprehended over 473,000 people who presented themselves as a family unit.
www.cbp.gov

Should the US just allow 6200 children a year to be fraudulently brought into the United States to become slaves?

Report finds more than 340 migrant kids were sent to live with nonrelatives who sponsored other children
Advocates say the HHS audit raises questions about whether some migrant minors are being exploited by nonfamily members for child labor.
www.nbcnews.com

Could there be more? I am sure there are.

Under Joe Biden, Have 85,000 Undocumented Children Gone 'Missing'?
www.newsweek.com

The US border is broken .... Biden broke it.

2023: 3,201,144
2022: 2,766,582
2021: 1,956,519
2020: 405,036
2019: 859,501
2018: 404,142
2017: 310,531
2016: 415,816
2015: 337,117
2014: 486,651
2013: 420,789
2012: 364,768
2011: 340,252
2010: 463,382

But hey if it saves one family its all worth it right?

#49 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-02-02 11:58 PM | Reply

"Also: What crimes were the migrant parents convicted of?"

"How do you know it is the childs parent?"

Also: What crimes were the purported migrant parents convicted of?

#50 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-02-03 12:03 AM | Reply

Yav

It really was ridiculous rhetoric. It just was.

#51 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-02-03 03:34 AM | Reply

So you're on board with separating children, even new borns, from their parents because, hey it works?
What else works and can be used when you have no morality left, as apparently he doesn't and you don't.
What's causing you to say what I said was ridiculous? It was a question, or did you not pay attention?
Let me post it again:

You know what else would deter border crossings? Hanging the bodies of those seeking asylum all along the border. You up for that? Let's really explore the depths of your depravity and sociopathy.

So let's explore yours. Where do you draw the line? Where does your humanity end?

Trump's child separation policy was prohibited and suspended by court order. Of course Trump's Admin first denied they had implemented the policy, then tried to blame Congress for it.

So let's be clear: CommonCents thinks it worked just great and needs to be done again, and is blaming Biden for not doing it, and you're declaring my statement "ridiculous rhetoric" without taking an actual stand on the subject, so by default, supporting his position.

That about right?

www.splcenter.org

#52 | Posted by YAV at 2024-02-03 07:59 AM | Reply

The separation policy was supposedly (maybe not how it was done in practice) to determine if the adults traveling with the children were actually relatives given how much sex trafficking and rape is baked into the illegal immigration cake. That's a far cry from hanging dead bodies as a visual deterrent. It was a type of equivalence I'd expect from Snoofy, not you.

#53 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-02-03 10:39 AM | Reply

"given how much sex trafficking and rape is baked into the illegal immigration cake."

How much is that?

#54 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-02-03 10:40 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"given how much sex trafficking and rape is baked into the illegal immigration cake."

How much is in the legal immigration cake, and why shouldn't we be separating those families too?

#55 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-02-03 10:41 AM | Reply

One thing I've learned about conservatives is the (willful?) inability to comprehend hypothetical scenarios used to make a point. I'm never sure if it's a tactic , a tell, or just a lack of cognitive ability.

#56 | Posted by igashosparks at 2024-02-03 05:07 PM | Reply

" 56 | POSTED BY IGASHOSPARKS AT 2024-02-03 05:07 PM | FLAG: "

Come up with at least a somewhat plausible hypothetical and you'd see a different reaction

#57 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-02-03 05:56 PM | Reply

The GOP, still living the wet dream of right wing Civil War secession, 160+ years after the fact...

Talk about your Butt hurt...

#58 | Posted by earthmuse at 2024-02-03 07:07 PM | Reply

I saw a picture of a man holding a sign that said something that summarizes my religious beliefs as a Christian.

It was thought provoking and I had never heard it said this way.

"Heaven has walls....Hell has open borders".

I believe there is some criteria you have to meet to get into Heaven. It's pretty easy to qualify but there is criteria.

Anyone is welcome in hell.

#59 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2024-02-03 08:32 PM | Reply

LOL, bill COMPLETELY misses the point of 'jesus' teachings.

Even the bronze age men who wrote the bible and didn't know about indoor plumbing understood treating their fellow man with kindness and generosity was moral.

en.wikipedia.org

It always amuses me that those who profess to be the most religious express the least moral attitudes.

#60 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-02-03 08:42 PM | Reply

Truth,

No one ever said anything about not being kind and generous.

I'm talking about the afterlife.

Opinions are wide and varied.

I said the sign summarized my beliefs.

#61 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2024-02-03 08:49 PM | Reply

Bill it is pointless to point out to you your ethical failure. You refuse to learn. A common trait among the faithful

#62 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-02-03 09:18 PM | Reply

Anyone is welcome in hell.
#59 | POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON

You're going to be spending eternity there.

You wasted the life God gave you by denying who you are and living a life untrue to yourself.

What a wasted existence.

#63 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-02-03 09:23 PM | Reply

59: I had never heard it said this way.
"Heaven has walls....Hell has open borders".

Maybe you've never heard it that way before. I'd guess because it's crappy theology.

Because of my work over the last 25 years, I've read hundreds of books by Christian theologians, mostly mainstream Protestant and Catholic. I can't think of one who would support such a notion.

Bill, who would Jesus say shouldn't be in heaven?

#64 | Posted by Dbt2 at 2024-02-03 09:52 PM | Reply

"Jesus" if he lived was not god
There is no heaven
There is no hell
there is no god

The concepts of heaven hell god and jesus are childish.

Grow up.

#65 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-02-03 10:07 PM | Reply

Db,

"Bill, who would Jesus say shouldn't be in heaven?"

"Shouldn't be" isn't how I would word it.

Perhaps "turned away" might be better.

Matthew 7:21 Jesus is quoted as saying that some who say to Him "I prophesied in Your name" will be told "I never knew you; depart from Me".

There are people who know the letter of the law forward and back who will be told "I never knew you".

Wars have been started feuding over what it means to be a Christian.

I don't think my post can hardly really summarize it.

I just liked his sign.

#66 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2024-02-03 10:29 PM | Reply

Db,

You see...everyone "should be".

I don't think Jesus would say some people "shouldn't be".

You're twisting my words because your head is full of books and yet you're missing something.

#67 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2024-02-03 10:34 PM | Reply

65. That's all fine. No offense taken. Theology in its many forms--these days, that means a lot of social justice writing--has paid a lot of my bills and put food on the table and a roof over our head. And I'm Jewish by birth, so I can read Christian theology (really any theology) with a good level of attachment. I got no dog in that hunt.

An anecdote from the world of religious publishing (one of many):

A client-turned-friend of mine holds a couple of nice titles within a (very mainstream) religious publishing house. Also a pagan.

A prospective author came up to my friend at an annual conference and said, "It's too bad you don't publish fiction."

My friend's response: "It's all fiction."

#68 | Posted by Dbt2 at 2024-02-03 10:44 PM | Reply

Truth,

Why do you care then?

Why do you feel compelled to convince people there is no God?

Why should it matter one way or the other to you?

Why do you care if someone believes in God?

Is it some great horrible thing if they tell other people they believe in God?

You sound driven by hated or envy or something. Some emotion is stirring you up.

I don't really care what drives you, but I do find it interesting when people who claim they don't believe in God still feel compelled to join the conversation.

#69 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2024-02-03 10:44 PM | Reply

67.

Yeah, books frighten people. I read a lot. Occupational hazard.

Ok, I'll ask a different way. Since you brought it up, who in your mind are heaven's walls going to turn away?

Looks like Jesus didn't directly answer the question I asked.

Am I missing Jesus? Well, you can add your name to the list that includes my wife and a lot of pastors over the years.

#70 | Posted by Dbt2 at 2024-02-03 10:51 PM | Reply

67.

You're twisting your own words. You don't need my help.

Sure, we'd rather Jesus say, "Everyone should [in theory, since I had nothing say about it] be getting into heaven. What a wonderful world."

So since we're doing First Church of Christ, Parenthetical, "(Who among) everyone should (not) get into heaven"?

#71 | Posted by Dbt2 at 2024-02-03 10:58 PM | Reply

Why do I care?

Because religiosity it a daily affront to my rationality. Everywhere I turn I face the nonsensical beliefs of religious people infringing on my space with their childish --------.

The concept of heaven and hell is childish, objectively, childish. Developed to motivate children to act in socially acceptable ways.

But so many adults live an arrested development, clinging to these infantile myths, ---- not even myths, infantile bed time stories and forcing me on a regular basis to suffer the cognitive dissonance of processing their nonsense. I am tired of it. You want to be religious? Fine, keep it out of the public sphere. Keep it out of politics, keep it out of public forums.

As an aside, it terrifies me that the 2nd in line to the presidency is a religious whackjob. A man who lives his life based on childish nonsense. That keeps me up at night.

#72 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-02-03 11:03 PM | Reply

I don't really care what drives you, but I do find it interesting when people who claim they don't believe in God still feel compelled to join the conversation.

#69 | POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON A

Why must I be forced to endure the cognitive dissonance caused by listening to those who express beliefs in childish stories as if they were reality?

Why must I be forced to live in a land governed by people who I think should be in a mental health hospital for presenting with psychotic delusions? People who hold a prayer circle on the well of the HoR. Why should I be forced to endure that? Why should I live in a country that is more and more being governed by delusional people, people who let these childish beliefs direct their lives? That sort of nonsense has real life impacts.

FWIW if there was a heaven and people like you populated it, I would prefer hell.

Also, I have always wondered why jesus' first miracle is celebrated as a good thing. He made wine out of water. What about the alcoholics at the wedding feast? How much pain did jesus inflict on people suffering from a disease.

#73 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-02-03 11:09 PM | Reply

I think "count me out" when institutions or their zealots assume themselves as Heaven's gatekeepers.

These people are obnoxious, intrusive --------. I have no interest in getting through life, dying, just to spend eternity in their company

#74 | Posted by horstngraben at 2024-02-03 11:11 PM | Reply

from 68.

*detachment. Oy.

#75 | Posted by Dbt2 at 2024-02-03 11:13 PM | Reply

There's only one reason people say it's fiction... because it claims something and or things deemed "impossible" happened.

Which is circular logic, really; "those things don't happen and anyone who says they do isn't an honest reporter... because those things can't happen and anyone who says they can is lying"... ad infinitum.

Of course, the teachings themselves, had the teachers not been dumb enough to add the impossible, would be, and often are, lauded by many who credit them when compared to other moral teachings.

And then there's the rabid adherents who don't actually understand the teachings they claim to represent, and make a mockery of them on a daily basis.

The original teacher called out the religious fundamentalists of his time as hypocrites and lewzers.

They still are.

#76 | Posted by Corky at 2024-02-03 11:24 PM | Reply

No, there is another reason people call it fiction. Because it is fiction.

It is a myth and only a child believes it. Or an adult with arrested development.

It is way more that the "impossible", it is the objective hate religion espouses, it is the inconsistencies of something supposedly coming from a perfect almighty.

It is the horrors that religious people have inflicted on humanity.

#77 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-02-03 11:28 PM | Reply

" It is the horrors that religious people have inflicted on humanity.
#77 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS AT 2024-02-03 11:28 PM | FLAG: "

Godless Communism has inflicted horrors on humanity that dwarf anything religion has managed and that was only over the course of one century.

#78 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-02-04 02:26 AM | Reply

#78 | Posted by BellRinger

LOL!

That statement is pure, unadulterated, horse manure.

#79 | Posted by Angrydad at 2024-02-04 09:06 AM | Reply

Db,

"So since we're doing First Church of Christ, Parenthetical, "(Who among) everyone should (not) get into heaven"?"

Let's add fuel to the fire.

Instead of "should not", say "will not".

The Bible talks of predestination.

The Bible says the day you are born it has been preordained if you will or will not get into heaven.

My interpretation is that God is omnipresent and knows the future.

Mix that in with our "free will" and Christians can argue indefinitely among themselves.

#80 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2024-02-04 09:30 AM | Reply

The Bible talks of predestination.

The Bible says the day you are born it has been preordained if you will or will not get into heaven.

So in this fairy tale god creates beings he knows will be condemned to eternal suffering

Doesn't sound like a being worthy of following. In fact I'd consider that evil if god existed. But then again I find it easy and necessary to have compassion for everyone

#81 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-02-04 09:35 AM | Reply

I feel sorry for ol' Billy J...he does not get to laugh at the stupidity of hos own posts...

...or maybe he does.

#82 | Posted by Angrydad at 2024-02-04 09:37 AM | Reply

"Why do you care if someone believes in God?"

"But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods, or no god he. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg. " Thomas Jefferson

It's simple. Time is money. Stop wasting our time and picking our pockets.

STFU about your religion and get your religious fanatics out of our government.

You can start by showing your good faith in America and belief in the separation of church and state as our founding fathers intended by supporting getting rid of Maga Mike.

#83 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-02-04 10:35 AM | Reply

"Godless Communism has inflicted horrors on humanity that dwarf anything religion has managed"

Do Godless Capitalism next!

#84 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-02-04 10:54 AM | Reply

And to make matters worse, now we have aliens from outer space.

#85 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2024-02-04 10:56 AM | Reply

"STFU about your religion and get your religious fanatics out of our government."

Can we apply this to Muslim lawmakers also? Or does your comment strictly target Christians?

#86 | Posted by CommonCents816 at 2024-02-04 11:23 AM | Reply

"Yep.
You are that stupid.
You gonna triple down on it?"

Sure, I'll do whatever I want here. A limp wrister like you won't stop me from doing anything on this planet.

You brought up hanging migrants, nobody else did.

You're sick.

#87 | Posted by CommonCents816 at 2024-02-04 11:25 AM | Reply

One thing I've learned about conservatives is the (willful?) inability to comprehend hypothetical scenarios used to make a point. I'm never sure if it's a tactic , a tell, or just a lack of cognitive ability.

Their minds are so bought into lies that they constantly feed and nourish, they can't and don't recognize anything else. This is true for objective reality, truth, as well as hypotheticals.

#88 | Posted by YAV at 2024-02-04 01:54 PM | Reply

Republican Representative Mike Collins apparently was referring "to right-wing Chilean strongman Augusto Pinochet, who seized the country in a 1973 coup and became infamous for his government's so-called "death flights," where civilians kidnapped by the armed forces were thrown out of helicopters into the Pacific Ocean" when he said "Or we could buy him a ticket on Pinochet Air for a free helicopter ride back..."

Looks like I wasn't crazy for asking just how far people like "commoncents" and "bellringer" are comfortable going...
drudge.com

#89 | Posted by YAV at 2024-02-04 02:57 PM | Reply

Oh, and again, in case you missed it - it is illegal for DeSantis to send the Florida guard to Texas.

#90 | Posted by YAV at 2024-02-04 03:05 PM | Reply

to make matters worse, now we have aliens from outer space.
#85 | POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON

I can't wait to read the motivation behind this comment. Please do tell.

#91 | Posted by Dbt2 at 2024-02-04 04:11 PM | Reply

Db,

If you have kept alert to the latest information the last few years regarding unknown objects in the sky that go back for decades, where no one had that sort of technology years ago, it's hard to not ponder the existence of other life forms that might conflict with religious beliefs.

I could write on and on about what is being said and written and it's a little bothersome for me. It's nothing like the UFO kooks of years ago. It's becoming a seriously questioned and studied phenomena.

If it turns out to just be little green men flying in saucers, that would be a far cry better than some of the paranormal explanations being considered.

#92 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2024-02-04 05:33 PM | Reply

Bill is 1 Alex jones podcast away from being a flat earther

#93 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-02-04 05:35 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

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