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Wednesday, January 31, 2024

There are efforts underway to put constitutional amendments regarding abortion on the 2024 ballot in as many as 13 states: Arizona, Arkansas, Colorado, Florida, Iowa, Maine, Maryland, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, Pennsylvania, and South Dakota. Since Dobbs, 6 states -- California, Kansas, Kentucky, Michigan, Vermont, and Ohio -- have voted on abortion related constitutional amendments, and the side favoring access to abortion prevailed in every state.

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Meanwhile the GOP is working to try to make it more difficult for the people to change laws through the vote. The republican party hates democracy.

#1 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2024-02-01 10:35 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

---- democracy. We are a Republic.

This is the way it should be done. State by state.

#2 | Posted by boaz at 2024-02-01 11:39 AM | Reply

---- democracy.

#2 | POSTED BY BOAZ

Boaz expressing the Republican party's primary motivation quite succinctly.

#3 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-02-01 11:51 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#3,

And Truthhurts displaying his disdain for the Constitutional Republic, not democracy, that is America like Democrats do.

#4 | Posted by boaz at 2024-02-01 12:44 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

How so? I did not express any opinion on the concept of a republic.

You on the other hand specifically said ---- democracy.

#5 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-02-01 12:54 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The problem is that right to abortion is more than a state by state issue:

The High Toll of US Abortion Bans: Nearly One in Five Patients Now Traveling Out of State for Abortion Care

This surge in travel has largely been driven by post"Roe v. Wade abortion bans and restrictions.

www.guttmacher.org

Next abortion battlefront opens between states with clashing laws

"If red states pass laws saying, We can go after people for X, Y and Z,' and blue states say, You can't,' we're in uncharted territory," said Mary Ziegler, a legal historian at the University of California, Davis School of Law.

Arguments about the laws could be rooted in key clauses of the U.S. Constitution that could contradict each other in this case. One clause requires states to respect the laws of other states while another recognizes the right to travel among states and a third restricts the ability of states to impair interstate commerce.
www.pbs.org

#6 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-02-01 12:56 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

---- democracy. We are a Republic.
This is the way it should be done. State by state.
#2 | POSTED BY BOAZ

Despite you penchant for spouting one line bromides, none of this is as simple as you want to believe. If you are in a state that bans abortion and makes it illegal to cross state lines to get one--or help someone to do so--does that mean you are more of a slave/hostage/prisoner of that state then you are a citizen of the United States?

The Constitutionality of Banning Interstate Travel for Abortion

After the Supreme Court eliminated the constitutionally protected right to abortion in Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health Organization, right-wing states have begun enacting abortion bans and discussing the possibility of restricting interstate travel for abortion.

Although there is a general presumption against a state's ability to regulate extraterritorially (i.e., beyond its borders), legal authority suggests that the Constitution does not clearly prohibit a state from regulating abortion travel.
blog.petrieflom.law.harvard.edu

After Roe Fell: Abortion Laws by State

[T]his digital tool describes the abortion policy of the U.S. states, the District of Columbia, and the five most populous U.S. territories, which requires careful legal analysis of constitutions, laws, regulations, and court decisions. This online tool charts how these governments are responding to the reversal of Roe.
reproductiverights.org

#7 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-02-01 01:06 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1


---- democracy. We are a Republic.
This is the way it should be done. State by state.
#2 | POSTED BY BOAZ

So much for the "United" States.

So much for the equal rights amendment.

Yay for the return to the subjugation of women!

#8 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-02-01 01:17 PM | Reply

---- democracy. We are a Republic.
This is the way it should be done. State by state.
#2 | POSTED BY BOAZ

Boaz, you're ignorant.

Literally prove how little you know, every time you post.

Go get an education.

#9 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-02-01 01:18 PM | Reply

This is the way it should be done. State by state.

#2 | Posted by boaz

Except your christofascist cult wants to outlaw it everywhere.

#10 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2024-02-01 01:21 PM | Reply

"---- democracy."
~Boaz

"If conservatives become convinced they cannot win democratically, they will not abandon conservatism. They will reject democracy"
~David Frum

#11 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-02-01 01:22 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 6

Yep, ---- mob democracy. The supreme court upheld it should be a states issue and they are correct. Dont like how things are in my state? Move.

That's how we are designed.

#12 | Posted by boaz at 2024-02-01 02:31 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

This whole, "If you don't like it move" canard is a red herring. Everyone does not have the resources to pack up and move to another state.

Banning abortions was bad enough.

But now these sh*thole states throw in:

No exception for rape.
No exception for ------.
No exception for the health of the mother.
Vaguely written rules for viability of the fetus.
Prosecution if you leave the state.
Prosecution if you know someone leaving the state.
Prosecution for helping someone leave the state.
Prosecution for the doctor.

Nothing so typified their ghoulish behavior as them publicly harassing a ten year old girl who had been raped. Ten year olds that are too young to hold a job, drive a car, drink alcohol, smoke cigarettes, live on their own...yet they are required to bear a child that may kill them in the process and quite possibly destroy their underdeveloped organs and ruin her chances of ever having a family not to mention that everyday during the pregnancy they would be reminded of the brutal and savage attack that caused it.

Rethuglicans are vile ghoulish scum.

Biden is going to BOMBARD the airways in the fall with ads. Those ads are going to show fat donnie lewzer proclaiming "I was the one who finally overturned Roe. Without ME there would be no abortion bans." Right now the gender gap is swinging BIGLY to Biden for women. When the ads showing this and women denied medical procedures to protect their lives you can bet your fat asses it will drive women AND SWIFTIES to the polls for Biden.

THE MOST INTIMATE MEDICAL DECISION A WOMAN CAN MAKE IS NONE OF YOUR ------- BUSINESS.

#13 | Posted by Nixon at 2024-02-01 03:18 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

" The supreme court upheld it should be a states issue and they are correct."

Sorry it hurts so much for you to live in a Democratic Republic. Perhaps YOU should leave?

So the last time they ruled on this very subject they were incorrect?

So you are saying our Supreme Court makes mistakes? It's not over until it's over. And it's obviously not over.

So if our Supreme Court can make mistakes then maybe they got it right the first time and this IS the mistake then and in which case it will be overturned again.

Because it ain't over. Not even close. It's never over when you are denying equal rights to a portion of your population. That portion will tell you when it's over.


#14 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-02-01 03:53 PM | Reply

Everyone does not have the resources to pack up and move to another state.

Not my problem. That a "they" problem.

It's never over when you are denying equal rights to a portion of your population.

Gun ownership is an actual right. And yea, it will NEVER be over when it comes to gun rights.

#15 | Posted by boaz at 2024-02-01 04:59 PM | Reply

---- democracy. We are a Republic.
This is the way it should be done. State by state.

#2 | POSTED BY BOAZ

There you have it. Boaz expresses his disdain for the governments of the states.
The state of Missouri is not a republic.
www.pbs.org
Ohio is not a republic. www.npr.org
Idaho is not a republic. idahocapitalsun.com
Oklahoma is not a republic. www.southwestledger.news
Nor are any of the other states where Republicans are trying to strip voters of the power to make laws.

You are an uninformed fool.

#16 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2024-02-01 05:18 PM | Reply

Gun ownership is an actual right. And yea, it will NEVER be over when it comes to gun rights.

#15 | Posted by boaz

Not as long as a rigged supreme court chooses to ignore the WELL REGULATED MILITIA part.

#17 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2024-02-01 05:20 PM | Reply

Everyone does not have the resources to pack up and move to another state.
Not my problem. That a "they" problem.
It's never over when you are denying equal rights to a portion of your population.
Gun ownership is an actual right. And yea, it will NEVER be over when it comes to gun rights.

#15 | POSTED BY BOAZ A

Have I not regularly pointed out that Boaz and his philosophy is childish selfishness?

I wonder if he wonders why people consider republicans scum.

#18 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-02-01 05:20 PM | Reply

#18 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS

Folks inability to afford to move to another state that provides access to abortions is not a BOAZ problem.

But folks having abortions IS a BOAZ problem.

The dude's an absolute jackass.

#19 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2024-02-01 05:22 PM | Reply

Rwingers themselves are the best argument for more abortions rather than less.

#20 | Posted by Corky at 2024-02-01 05:30 PM | Reply

Not as long as a rigged supreme court chooses to ignore the WELL REGULATED MILITIA part.

And you choose to ignore a comma..

#21 | Posted by boaz at 2024-02-01 05:44 PM | Reply

Choose to ignore a Reagan-appointed SC Chief Justice:

"A fraud on the American public."

That's how former Chief Justice Warren Burger described the idea that the Second Amendment gives an unfettered individual right to a gun. When he spoke these words to PBS in 1990, the rock-ribbed conservative appointed by Richard Nixon was expressing the longtime consensus of historians and judges across the political spectrum."

www.brennancenter.org

#22 | Posted by Corky at 2024-02-01 05:54 PM | Reply

Fantastic! Reps are very happy that Liberals are starting to understand how America's legislation system works. Seeing the issue be fought at the state level is EXACTLY what Reps and every other person who understands our government wants to happen. Congratulation Libs on taking at least one step forward in your long journey of actually learning how the system works. I, for one, applaud your efforts.

#23 | Posted by humtake at 2024-02-02 12:21 PM | Reply

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