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Monday, April 22, 2024

The rights of LGBTQ+ students will be protected by federal law and victims of campus sexual assault will gain new safeguards under rules finalized Friday by the Biden administration. ... Notably absent from Biden's policy, however, is any mention of transgender athletes.

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... The administration originally planned to include a new policy forbidding schools from enacting outright bans on transgender athletes, but that provision was put on hold. The delay is widely seen as a political maneuver during an election year in which Republicans have rallied around bans on transgender athletes in girls' sports.

Instead, Biden is officially undoing sexual assault rules put in place by his predecessor and current election-year opponent, former President Donald Trump.

The final policy drew praise from victims' advocates, while Republicans said it erodes the rights of accused students.

The new rule makes "crystal clear that everyone can access schools that are safe, welcoming and that respect their rights," Education Secretary Miguel Cardona said.

"No one should face bullying or discrimination just because of who they are, who they love," Cardona told reporters. "Sadly, this happens all too often." ...


#1 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-04-19 10:18 PM | Reply

Why not just admit, "Yea, conservatives, you are right, boys shouldnt be competing against girls"? What's wrong with that?

#2 | Posted by boaz at 2024-04-22 08:52 AM | Reply

Why not just admit, "Yea, conservatives, you are right, boys shouldnt be competing against girls"? What's wrong with that?

POSTED BY BOAZ AT 2024-04-22 08:52 AM | REPLY

That's not what is happening and you know it too. Why do you continue to lie about it??

#3 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2024-04-22 08:55 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

-The delay is widely seen as a political maneuver during an election year

Or Biden feels that allowing transwomen athletes competing against women is wrong.

Maybe it's politics....but maybe he legitimately feels it's wrong.

#4 | Posted by eberly at 2024-04-22 08:57 AM | Reply

Hey Boaz,

How segregated should boys and girls be?

I'd say Separate But Equal, but the whole reason for segregating them is they aren't equal.

So...

#5 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-04-22 09:00 AM | Reply

"Notably absent from Biden's policy, however, is any mention of transgender athletes."

Fine with me.

Let each sport govern itself, for what is and isn't allowed.

The only reason government should interfere is if there's a pattern of discrimination against a protected class.

Come to think of it, I'm not sure "girls" or even "women" is a protected class.

#6 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-04-22 09:09 AM | Reply

" That's not what is happening and you know it too. Why do you continue to lie about it??

#3 | POSTED BY LAURAMOHR AT 2024-04-22 08:55 AM | FLAG: "

Two words: Lia Thomas.

#7 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-04-22 09:11 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Lia Thomas

"Towards the end of high school, Thomas began to question her gender identity.[2][11] After her freshman year at college, during the summer of 2018, she came out as transgender to her family." --wikipedia

I guess she forgot to come out to JeffJ.

#8 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-04-22 09:15 AM | Reply | Funny: 3

For context there are 32 transgender student athletes

www.insidehighered.com

of over 520,000 Student athletes

www.ncaa.org

The hate is disgusting

#9 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-04-22 09:46 AM | Reply

and more than half were transmen, who jeff believes are actually women, competing in men's sports, but you never hear him utter a word in defense of those people he believes are women

#10 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-04-22 09:49 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

www.outsports.com

only 15 transwomen play college sports

This is all about 15 people.

The hate is disgusting.

#11 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-04-22 09:55 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

For context there are 32 transgender student athletes.
- truth hurts

What's the trend line?

#12 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-04-22 09:57 AM | Reply

#12 good demonstration of the point #11 is making.

#13 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-04-22 10:00 AM | Reply

#4 | POSTED BY EBERLY

Or feels it's best to leave that up to the sport's governing body(ies).

#14 | Posted by jpw at 2024-04-22 10:18 AM | Reply

#13

#11 is acting like the number will remain small. Yet data suggests transgenderism is increasing in young children.

10% of current transgender athletes are collegiate national champions.

Clearly just in the data transgender athletes have an advantage.

#15 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-04-22 10:29 AM | Reply

I'm acting like there's nothing that any legislature needs to do, regardless of the number.

What are you acting like?

#16 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-04-22 10:42 AM | Reply

"Clearly just in the data transgender athletes have an advantage."

So do blacks. Ho hum.

#17 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-04-22 10:43 AM | Reply

Leaving it to the governing bodies makes the most sense.

I've posted it before, but steroid use imho should result in perma-banning from most sports. Why? It results in permanent changes to muscle physiology that last even decades after hormone levels renormalize. Primarily, a permanent increase in myonuclei, which allows for greater adaptation to strength training than a lifetime natural athlete would experience, and muscle cross sections continue to show greater mass long afterwards as well.

This effect is even more striking when you consider that steroid users generally permanently damage their endogenous testosterone production at least slightly.

This is directly analogous - and even more pronounced - to anyone who has gone through male puberty, and then some, as the body is not only creating a massive surge of testosterone, DHT, etc, but doing so while bone, muscle and organs are still developing, resulting in also generally greater reach, pulmonary volume, hips that are mechanically more efficient for running, etc. These, except likely bone density - are also permanent.

It leaves a valid argument for those who took puberty blockers not having an unfair advantage, although that's an entirely different can of worms that I do not actually have any extensive knowledge to speak on, so will leave to others.

#18 | Posted by zeropointnrg at 2024-04-22 10:47 AM | Reply

" For context there are 32 transgender student athletes"

That's 32 women athletes who were bypassed during tryouts. That's countless women who have no choice but to compete against males. That's countless women who have to share locker rooms with males.

The misogyny is disgusting.

#19 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-04-22 10:54 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"That's 32 women athletes who were bypassed during tryouts."

What makes you say they were bypassed during tryouts?
Are they saying that?

#20 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-04-22 10:55 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"That's countless women who have no choice but to compete against males."

Why isn't this an injustice in academics and business too?

#21 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-04-22 10:56 AM | Reply

-Or feels it's best to leave that up to the sport's governing body(ies).

That's an even better reason.

#22 | Posted by eberly at 2024-04-22 11:42 AM | Reply

The misogyny is disgusting.

POSTED BY BELLRINGER AT 2024-04-22 10:54 AM | REPLY

Says the guy who doesn't believe cis women have bodily autonomy.

Physician heal thyself.

BTW You still don't know what you're talking about as per the usual.

#23 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2024-04-22 11:48 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

What makes you say they were bypassed during tryouts?
Are they saying that?
#20 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

They don't have to, there are rules for fairness. NCAA Limits size of teams. Travel and home.

#24 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-04-22 11:50 AM | Reply

Why isn't this an injustice in academics and business too?

#21 | POSTED BY SNOOFY AT 2024-04-22 10:56 AM | FLAG:

Because the brain isn't a gendered organ, and unlike the physical, there's no difference between the mental capabilities of men and women.

Or so we used to be told, before transgendered people became a more prominent issue. Now I guess the progressive view is women's brains don't work like men's do?

Does this mean Google now owes James Damore an apology?

#25 | Posted by zeropointnrg at 2024-04-22 11:51 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

So do blacks. Ho hum.
#17 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

Strange again resorting to race again, you seem obsessed.

#26 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-04-22 11:55 AM | Reply

Because the brain isn't a gendered organ, and unlike the physical, there's no difference between the mental capabilities of men and women.

This is false.

#27 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-04-22 11:56 AM | Reply

stanmed.stanford.edu

How our brains differ
The neuroscience literature shows that the human brain is a sex-typed organ with distinct anatomical differences in neural structures and accompanying physiological differences in function, says UC-Irvine professor of neurobiology and behavior Larry Cahill, PhD. Cahill edited the 70-article January/February 2017 issue of the Journal of Neuroscience Research " the first-ever issue of any neuroscience journal devoted entirely to the influence of sex differences on nervous-system function.

Brain-imaging studies indicate that these differences extend well beyond the strictly reproductive domain, Cahill says. Adjusted for total brain size (men's are bigger), a woman's hippocampus, critical to learning and memorization, is larger than a man's and works differently. Conversely, a man's amygdala, associated with the experiencing of emotions and the recollection of such experiences, is bigger than a woman's. It, too, works differently, as Cahill's research has demonstrated.

#28 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2024-04-22 11:57 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

10% of current transgender athletes are collegiate national champions.

So, 3 of them?

#29 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-04-22 11:57 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

OneTinyNut is jealous that trans men have bigger penises than he does. Boaz too.

#30 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2024-04-22 11:59 AM | Reply

"Because the brain isn't a gendered organ"

Chess tells us a very different story.

#31 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-04-22 12:00 PM | Reply

Now I guess the progressive view is women's brains don't work like men's do?

Before I retired I was sent to a few courses explaining all of that.

#32 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-04-22 12:02 PM | Reply

www.vinmec.com

The human brain is very complex and has many interesting features, which have always attracted scientists. There are many different characteristics between the male brain and the female brain, which creates a characteristic difference in the personality of the two sexes.
1. The brains of male and female fetuses

While in the womb, a girl's brain develops faster than a boy's. This has been proven:
At 16 weeks, boys' testosterone levels are 10 times higher than girls' (higher testosterone levels slow brain development). At 26 weeks, the researchers found that the corpus callosum in the brains of babies was much thicker than that of boys.
2. Brain size

Men's brains are usually 10 - 12% larger than women's brains. This may be because men need larger brains to control muscle mass.
3. Brain hemisphere activity

Most women have a balance between the two hemispheres of the brain, while men have more developed left brain than right brain. This helps women have better memory, practical thinking, communication and work orientation.
In addition, parietal lobes are more developed in males than in females. This helps men more quickly with math operations.
4. Coping with stress

The response to stress in men and women is very different. While men often choose to face and solve problems, women often choose to forget stress by confiding in relatives, friends, taking care of pets, planting trees, ...
5. Language

The balanced operation between the two hemispheres of the brain helps women learn a new language better than men, focusing only on using the left hemisphere of the brain. Women are better able to encode information and remember vocabulary.
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6. Emotions

Women's limbic system is larger than men's, so women are often more sensitive and able to express emotions. However, it also has the disadvantage of making women more susceptible to mood disorders than men.
7. Spatial Orientation

Thickness of the parietal region of the brain that interferes with the spatial orientation of women. Thereby, men have the ability to read maps, perceive space and do abstract tasks better than women.
8. Brain dysfunction

It is because of the tendency of brain activity that makes men and women susceptible to specific brain diseases. For example, men are more susceptible to conditions such as dyslexia, autism, attention deficit hyperactivity disorder, and Tourette's syndrome, while women are more prone to mood disorders such as anxiety and depression cold .
9. Tidyness

Men tend to like to sort and organize things neatly. This is because women often like to be creative, solving problems through intuition and feelings, while men's brains prefer order and logic.
There are many different characteristics between a man's brain and a woman's brain. This creates a characteristic difference in the personalities of the two sexes.

#33 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-04-22 12:03 PM | Reply

"Now I guess the progressive view is women's brains don't work like men's do?"

Any idiot can see that.
Which excludes a lot of men, apparently.

Men kill themselves with a gun.
Women kill themselves with a bottle of pills.

#34 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-04-22 12:04 PM | Reply

"The truth is that there are no universal, species-wide brain features that differ between the sexes. Rather, the brain is like other organs, such as the heart and kidneys, which are similar enough to be transplanted between women and men quite successfully." Mar 25, 2021

www.sciencedaily.com

#35 | Posted by Corky at 2024-04-22 12:05 PM | Reply

#18 | Posted by zeropointnrg

Steroids do not result in permanent change. I know athletes who have both used them and are using them - 1000% not a permanent change. I mean if you are talking about speeding up recovery from an injury, I guess that is a permanent change but otherwise - just no.

#36 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2024-04-22 12:06 PM | Reply

"This is all about 15 people.
The hate is disgusting"

From women?

Because that's who Biden and the NCAA and the NAIA is listening to on this issue.

Not you or bellringer.

women.

You want them to STFU then say so.

#37 | Posted by eberly at 2024-04-22 12:09 PM | Reply

Is eberly pro J.K. Rowling now?

SHE can definitely STFU.

#38 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-04-22 12:16 PM | Reply

#36 | POSTED BY GALAXIEPETE AT 2024-04-22 12:06 PM | FLAG:

Untrue. Obviously, one loses most of the gains. But there are some permanent changes

www.sciencedaily.com

#39 | Posted by zeropointnrg at 2024-04-22 12:19 PM | Reply

-Is eberly pro J.K. Rowling now?

No, I'm referring to women athletes.

for example...

abcnews.go.com

I don't think Joe Biden is listening to JK Rowling either.

#40 | Posted by eberly at 2024-04-22 12:23 PM | Reply

#33 | POSTED BY ALEXANDRITE AT 2024-04-22 12:03 PM | FLAG:

Excellent post - but my comment was somewhat tongue-in-cheek. It's more that I find the cognitive dissonance irritating from those who want parity in female representation in every traditionally male-dominated area and field, treating them as entirely the same, yet immediately doubling back on that when it comes to something like whether transgender people have brains more resembling how they identify.

#41 | Posted by zeropointnrg at 2024-04-22 12:28 PM | Reply

Equal Protection under the Law is the point. I'm not particularly fond of a lot of things a lot of people do, but as long as they aren't harming others, they have the Right to equal protection.

#42 | Posted by Corky at 2024-04-22 12:30 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Screw women's sports, bathrooms, locker rooms, shower areas, etc. sorry women, you will be sexually assaulted by some mentally ill man masquerading as a woman exposing himself in the areas formerly deemed only for women. This is the Democrats war on women.

#43 | Posted by THEBULL at 2024-04-22 12:31 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

" For context there are 32 transgender student athletes"
That's 32 women athletes who were bypassed during tryouts. That's countless women who have no choice but to compete against males. That's countless women who have to share locker rooms with males.
The misogyny is disgusting.

#19 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

------- moron can't read.

only 15 are trans women, meaning only 15 women athletes were allegedly bypassed.

and of course you ignore the balance of people YOU consider women entering men's spaces (and presumably being subjected to danger) kinda sorta makes you the mysoginst

#44 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-04-22 12:34 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Ah so, THEBS "thinks" that sexual assault is legal under this provision.

No wonder he posts such nonsense.

#45 | Posted by Corky at 2024-04-22 12:35 PM | Reply

sorry women, you will be sexually assaulted by some mentally ill man masquerading as a woman exposing himself in the areas formerly deemed only for women.
#43 | POSTED BY THEBULL

So, uh, what percentage of sexual assaults against do you actually think that is? As high as 0.1%?

Exposing himself... is the "assault" something that could avoid simply by looking away?

You trivialize sexual assault, just like you trivialized your brief existence on this rock.

#46 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-04-22 12:37 PM | Reply

Screw women's sports, bathrooms, locker rooms, shower areas, etc. sorry women, you will be sexually assaulted by some mentally ill man masquerading as a woman exposing himself in the areas formerly deemed only for women. This is the Democrats war on women.

#43 | POSTED BY THEBULL

Why do you not consider same gender exposure (i.e. male on male or female on female) ------- exposure to be sexual assault?

#47 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-04-22 12:45 PM | Reply

BTW just to clarify my putting things in perspective.

One article said 32 trans athletes in all of college sports.

Another article said 39 trans athletes in all of college sports (and listed them), with 15 of those being transwomen.

#48 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-04-22 12:48 PM | Reply

15 of those being transwomen.
- truth

So 20% are NCAA champions.

I wouldn't care if there wasn't a physical advantage.
www.reddit.com

#49 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-04-22 12:56 PM | Reply

So 20% are NCAA champions.

But still 3 of them.

#50 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-04-22 01:10 PM | Reply

"What percentage of Columbia students were antisemitic in the 90s?"

What percentage of civilians in Gaza were being killed by Zionists in the 90s?

#51 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-04-22 01:12 PM | Reply

Now I guess the progressive view is women's brains don't work like men's do?

Before I retired I was sent to a few courses explaining all of that.

#32 | Posted by REDIAL

"And thus, dear students, we have arrived at the formula for understanding women."

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#52 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2024-04-22 01:39 PM | Reply

" Says the guy who doesn't believe cis women have bodily autonomy."

What are you talking about?

#53 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-04-22 01:54 PM | Reply

former Education Secretary Betsy DeVos, who added new safeguards for students accused of sexual misconduct.

Republicans are the pro rape party.

#54 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-04-22 01:57 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#39 | Posted by zeropointnrg

Very very interesting. Permanent gains is not a good way to put though. From reading the article, I would say permanent potential is there because of core muscle changes. The changes enable you to regain muscle mass/strength that is lost faster.

What I see though is people who are working out who were using and quit ALL lose size and strength FAST. That is even working out consistently - so clearly not ALL the gains remain.

#55 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2024-04-22 01:59 PM | Reply

What percentage of civilians in Gaza were being killed by Zionists in the 90s?
#51 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

What percentage of martians were killed by venusians in the 90s?

#56 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-04-22 02:10 PM | Reply

But still 3 of them.
#50 | POSTED BY REDIAL

This is why I asked about the trendlines

#57 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-04-22 02:16 PM | Reply

still 3 of them.
#50 | POSTED BY REDIAL

It's only 3 rapes

It's only 3 lynchings

It's only 3 robberies

Same logic

#58 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-04-22 02:18 PM | Reply

#54 So guys in college shouldn't have any rights when accused? Are you really that ---- stupid to come to the conclusion you did from the changes that were enacted?

#59 | Posted by kwrx25 at 2024-04-22 02:20 PM | Reply

"What percentage of martians were killed by venusians in the 90s?"

Lower than the percentage of Palestinian civilians being killed by Zionists.

#60 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-04-22 02:20 PM | Reply

Same logic

No it isn't. Using percentages with a tiny sample size is misleading, which is your intent.

#61 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-04-22 02:22 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

sorry women, you will be sexually assaulted by some mentally ill man masquerading as a woman exposing himself in the areas formerly deemed only for women

Has this actually happened yet? I mean surely if this is some serious problem to the point that it's dominating the national political discussion, we should be hearing about fake trans women raping women in locker rooms left and right.

#62 | Posted by JOE at 2024-04-22 02:30 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

" Has this actually happened yet? "

It happened at a high school a few years ago.

#63 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-04-22 02:32 PM | Reply

"It happened at a high school a few years ago."

Setting aside the factual problems with your claim:

What percentage of high school sexual assaults did that represent, a few years ago?

#64 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-04-22 02:35 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"It happened at a high school a few years ago."

Showing the Urgency of this Most Important of All National Trans Emergency!

#65 | Posted by Corky at 2024-04-22 02:53 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

It happened at a high school a few years ago.

So one sexual assault is responsible for generating the thousands of hours of breathless media attention on trans athletes? I feel for anyone impacted by sexual violence, i just wonder if this locker room nonsense is out of scale with the "problem" it purports to address.

#66 | Posted by JOE at 2024-04-22 02:54 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Joe,

When it comes to the locker room issue I encourage you to listen to what young women who experienced it have to say about it.

They weren't physically assaulted but still felt violated.

#67 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-04-22 03:04 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

#55 | POSTED BY GALAXIEPETE AT 2024-04-22 01:59 PM | FLAG:

Most do - I certainly didn't mean that to imply either steroid users or MtF maintain all their muscle mass. Nothing close. But that study and others I have seen - larger cross section in the quads than controls and such - imply that one can build a base that is still stronger than one's natural potential for steroid users, or alternately, than a FtM would have had had they never been exposed to male androgen levels. They might deflate once no longer exposed to supraphysiological hormones, but not necessarily to the point they would have had they never used them.

Apart from studies, sources are a couple decades in healthcare and having been big enough into body building in my 20's and early 30's I did seriously consider and research PED's hard. Decided to stay natty as I just didn't want to deal with all the long term side effects - but between hobby and career, picked up more than a fair amount of endocrinology over the years.

#68 | Posted by zeropointnrg at 2024-04-22 03:07 PM | Reply

When it comes to the locker room issue I encourage you to listen to what young women who experienced it have to say about it.
They weren't physically assaulted but still felt violated.

#67 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER A

Why do you not consider same gender exposure (i.e. male on male or female on female) to be a violation?

#69 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-04-22 03:20 PM | Reply

When it comes to the locker room issue I encourage you to listen to what young women who experienced it have to say about it.

They weren't physically assaulted but still felt violated.

#67 | Posted by BellRinger

If one incident requires a new law our politicians are going to be busy. How many school shootings get to happen before this applies to guns?

#70 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2024-04-22 03:21 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Let's fund a national effort to rebuild school and athletic bathrooms and locker rooms to be single-use facilities with walls and/or stalls for each individual occupant. If Republicans won't agree to this then they don't actually care about solving the "problem."

#71 | Posted by JOE at 2024-04-22 03:22 PM | Reply

sorry women, you will be sexually assaulted by some mentally ill man masquerading as a woman exposing himself in the areas formerly deemed only for women.
#43 | POSTED BY THEBULL

Republicans have no problem with men raping women.

Never have.

Otherwise Trump wouldn't be the presidential nominee.

Otherwise republicans wouldn't be passing laws prohibiting abortions for rape victims. They wouldn't be passing laws giving rapists parental rights.

"Rape babies are a gift from god." - The GOP

The GOP is the pro rape party.

#72 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-04-22 03:41 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#59 | POSTED BY KWRX25

You're pro rape?

Not surprising.

#73 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-04-22 03:43 PM | Reply

"Has this actually happened yet?"

It happened at a high school a few years ago.
#63 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

No, it didn't.

#74 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-04-22 03:46 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

It happened at a high school a few years ago.

#63 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER AT 2024-04-22 02:32 PM | REPLY

Making crap up again I see. Do you have any factual information that the Missouri AG had information that Planned Parenthood was giving out hormones puberty blockers and doing gender confirming surgeries on minors without parental consent??? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmn???

#75 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2024-04-22 03:57 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The case in VA, the perp was not trans.

#76 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-04-22 03:58 PM | Reply

Corky Romano, I don't think it is, I know it is

#77 | Posted by THEBULL at 2024-04-22 04:21 PM | Reply

still 3 of them.
#50 | POSTED BY REDIAL
It's only 3 rapes
It's only 3 lynchings
It's only 3 robberies
Same logic
#58 | POSTED BY ONEIRONAUT

Did you just equate a trans athlete winning an event with rape and lynching?

Not that you're a bigot mind you.

#78 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-04-22 04:25 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

A low-tier male can switch and set new records as a female.

So, you're saying women are inferior to men?

You gonna chop off your dick so you can stop being a low tier man?

You should. You're clearly a failure.

#80 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-04-22 04:48 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Being cute for a couple of years carries a high price. Freedom isn't free; there's a hefty ------' fee.

#81 | POSTED BY FATBOOMBOOM

Oh?

You can tell us. How much did it cost you?

#83 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-04-22 04:57 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

They weren't physically assaulted but still felt violated.

#67 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

Suddenly you care about women getting assaulted? Because there might be a trans involved? Do you also care as much about transgenders being assaulted? Transgender people are over four times more likely than cisgender people to experience violent victimization, including rape, sexual assault, and aggravated or simple assault, according to a new study by the Williams Institute at UCLA School of Law.

We all already know that if women WERE physically assaulted you goopers would not allow them to get an abortion if they chose to do so.

Do you even realize yet how that makes you GOOPERS sound?

#84 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-04-22 05:11 PM | Reply

The VA perp was wearing a girl's skirt and the sexual assault took place in the girl's restroom.

#85 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-04-22 05:18 PM | Reply

That doesn't make his trans you ignorant bigot.

#86 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-04-22 05:23 PM | Reply

Why do you not consider same gender exposure (i.e. male on male or female on female) to be a violation?

Why are you not concerned about transmen in men's spaces?

#87 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-04-22 05:25 PM | Reply

"The VA perp was wearing a girl's skirt"

What's the difference between a girl's skirt and a boy's skirt?

#88 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-04-22 05:30 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Now THAT is a good question.

#89 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-04-22 05:33 PM | Reply

Any guy who puts on a skirt is transgender?

You're so ridiculous.

What about kilts?

#90 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-04-22 05:48 PM | Reply

Biden's New Title IX Rules Protect LGBTQ Students

but, does not protect women

allows men on girls sport teams

allows men in girls locker rooms

allows men to take girls scholarships

Dems have turned against women

#91 | Posted by Maverick at 2024-04-22 05:50 PM | Reply

but, does not protect women
allows men on girls sport teams
allows men in girls locker rooms
allows men to take girls scholarships
Dems have turned against women

POSTED BY MAVERICK AT 2024-04-22 05:50 PM | REPLY

That's just ridiculous and you know it too. It isn't Democrats that are taking women's rights away. That would be the Republican party.

OOPSIE DAISY

#92 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2024-04-22 05:53 PM | Reply

Biden's New Title IX Rules Protect LGBTQ Students
but, does not protect women
allows men on girls sport teams
allows men in girls locker rooms
allows men to take girls scholarships
Dems have turned against women

#91 | POSTED BY MAVERICK

Perspective

15 of 520,000 student athletes

OH THE HUMANITY

Do you care about the well being of trans people?

BTW, Boaz and BillJ refuse to answer. Which is more important to women-trans issues or reproductive freedom?

#93 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-04-22 05:53 PM | Reply

Biden's New Title IX Rules Protect LGBTQ Students

allows men on girls sport teams

No, it doesn't.

#94 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-04-22 05:56 PM | Reply

How do we know the VA perp isn't trans?

Is Jessica Yaniv trans?

#95 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-04-22 06:01 PM | Reply

" 15 of 520,000 student athletes"

Already addressed.

#96 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-04-22 06:03 PM | Reply

JeffyBelle, Trans Inspector.

Call 1-800-Ballseeker for Your Free Inspection!

#97 | Posted by Corky at 2024-04-22 06:05 PM | Reply

How do we know the VA perp isn't trans?

No history, medical or otherwise.

You're just a knee jerking fool.

#98 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-04-22 06:07 PM | Reply

"How do we know the VA perp isn't trans?"

How did you decide he was?
???

#99 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-04-22 06:11 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

" No history, medical or otherwise"

The perp was a minor at the time. Perhaps it was a recent revelation?

#100 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-04-22 06:11 PM | Reply

"In court, the 15-year-old girl testified that she engaged in consensual sexual activity with the defendant two different times in a girls' bathroom at Stone Bridge High School but on a subsequent occasion was violently coerced into performing sexual acts."

Sounds like she has sex she regretted afterwards.
Signed,
Republicans

#101 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-04-22 06:13 PM | Reply

" 15 of 520,000 student athletes"
Already addressed.

#96 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER A

No it wasn't. I see you claiming it was, but you do not defend your position, this is just yet another example of you pulling ---- out of your ass and proudly proclaiming your ignorant bigotry.

#102 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-04-22 06:13 PM | Reply

" No history, medical or otherwise"
The perp was a minor at the time. Perhaps it was a recent revelation?

#100 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

So, you admit you are making ---- up, thanks.

#103 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-04-22 06:14 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

In the attached article I didn't see anything addressing a private spaces, like locker rooms or down rooms. I did see it mostly reverted back to Obama era kangaroo court adjudications of sexual assault allegations.

#104 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-04-22 06:14 PM | Reply

Down rooms = dorm rooms.

#105 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-04-22 06:14 PM | Reply

#103. Who are you to say whether or not someone is trans?

Is Jessica Yaniv trans?

Was Audrey Hale trans?

#106 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-04-22 06:16 PM | Reply

Is Jessica Yaniv trans?

#95 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

Was Meghan Riley killed for being trans?

#107 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-04-22 06:16 PM | Reply

How about Dime Doe?

Or Brianna Ghey?

Or Savannah Williams?

One in two transgender individuals are sexually abused or assaulted at some point in their lives. Some reports estimate that transgender survivors may experience rates of sexual assault up to 66 percent, often coupled with physical assaults or abuse.

#108 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-04-22 06:20 PM | Reply

I've never heard of Meghan Riley, so I had to look Meghan up.

This is what I found;

" Lewis was shot by a food delivery person following a verbal altercation that turned physical"

www.hrc.org

#109 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-04-22 06:20 PM | Reply

#108. What's your point?

#110 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-04-22 06:21 PM | Reply

www.nytimes.com

Smith's daughter testified that she'd previously had two consensual sexual encounters with her attacker in the school bathroom. On the day of her assault, they'd agreed to meet up again. "The evidence was that the girl chose that bathroom, but her intent was to talk to him, not to engage in sexual relations," Biberaj, whose office prosecuted the case, told me. The boy, however, expected sex and refused to accept the girl's refusal. As the The Washington Post reported, she testified, "He flipped me over. I was on the ground and couldn't move and he sexually assaulted me."

The boy was indeed wearing a skirt, but that skirt didn't authorize him to use the girls' bathroom. As Amanda Terkel reported in HuffPost, the school district's trans-inclusive bathroom policies were approved only in August, more than two months after the assault. This was not, said Biberaj, someone "identifying as transgender and going into the girls' bathroom under the guise of that."

So, to classify this as a trans crime is just gross, ignorant bigotry.

AND BTW

since jeff is so concerned about the rights of the accused in school sexual assault cases, the school district had no option but to return him to the district (even at a different school).

#111 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-04-22 06:25 PM | Reply

#108. What's your point?

#110 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

My point is you don't give a ---- about violence against marginalized groups, since, read my lips-you are an ignorant bigot.

And touting other trans or alleged trans people as some sort of defense is simple bigotry.

#112 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-04-22 06:27 PM | Reply

Again the facts regarding the VA assault jeff is so concerned about.

1. the victim had a relationship with the alleged perpetrator
2. the victim initiated the meet up with the alleged perpetrator
3. the victim chose the location of the meet up.
4. the alleged perpetrator just so happen to wear a skirt (apparently in an effort to be "shocking"-can't remember where I read that but that is my recollection)
5. the attack occurred 2 months before the trans bathroom policy was approved.
6. according to the alleged perpetrator's mother (again by recollection), he did NOT identify as trans.

This has zero to do with trans issues and was a SA arising out of a relationship.

#113 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-04-22 06:30 PM | Reply

Jessica Yaniv
Audrey Hale

Is Hale a Title IX or even a bathroom issue, or are you changing topics to say trans people should not have Second Amendment rights?

Yaniv is in Canada and lost her trolling legal cases in Canada and would probably lose them in USA too.

#114 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-04-22 06:33 PM | Reply

the years that followed in the 1980s, 1990s and early 2000s (before DeSantis, now in his early 40s, was on the scene), Title IX became a focal point for conservatives who felt that equal opportunity protections for women athletes, rather than being a cause of celebration, was in fact robbing men of their opportunities. The pages of conservative magazines like National Review were full of articles attacking the law as an affirmative action program that harmed male athletes. As Kathryn Jean Lopez wrote for National Review in 2002, in a review of the anti-Title IX book "Tilting the Playing Field," "Title IX...leads to a clearly unjust result. Women today have the upper hand in just about every area of education -- except sports, so feminists are now demanding special privileges in that area as well."
Nor was Title IX the only site of contention. As recently as the last few years, when soccer's US Women's National Team began calling for equal pay, the right had nothing but mockery. The idea that women should not only have equal opportunity but equal pay seemed laughable. Never mind that the women's team had a better record and brought in more revenue than the men's team. Were they worth more, the market would have already paid them more. As right-wing radio host Rush Limbaugh put it in 2019, "It may sound cruel, it may sound unfair, but the marketplace is the marketplace."
It was only once the right realized women's sports could be a useful cudgel in anti-trans politics -- nicely packaged as a rallying cry on behalf of America's daughters -- that they began to argue that this long fight for equality was, in fact, an honorable struggle, and that access to sports was key to women's ability to thrive in

#115 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2024-04-22 06:34 PM | Reply

Indeed, before gay marriage became the law of the land, conservatives complained how Title IX forced colleges to subsidize unprofitable, unladylike women's sports.

You'll have to Google it, since there isn't a conservative here who will acknowledge what they used to think about Title IX.

#116 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-04-22 06:42 PM | Reply

" And touting other trans or alleged trans people as some sort of defense is simple bigotry.

#112 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS AT 2024-04-22 06:27 PM | FLAG: "

Defense of what?
I asked you if you believe Jessica Yaniv is trans. I asked if you believe Audrey Hale was trans. That's it. If you read more into it then that it's on you.

#117 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-04-22 06:57 PM | Reply

" And touting other trans or alleged trans people as some sort of defense is simple bigotry.
#112 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS AT 2024-04-22 06:27 PM | FLAG: "
Defense of what?
I asked you if you believe Jessica Yaniv is trans. I asked if you believe Audrey Hale was trans. That's it. If you read more into it then that it's on you.

#117 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER AT

And you're implying therefore that the sick child that sexually assaulted those girls is therefore trans, because he wore a skirt.

You're too obvious you ------- moron.

#118 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-04-22 06:59 PM | Reply

This is why I asked about the trendlines

You asked about trend lines because the facts and the truth beat your stupid "point" to ----.

#119 | Posted by YAV at 2024-04-22 07:17 PM | Reply

" And you're implying therefore that the sick child that sexually assaulted those girls is therefore trans, because he wore a skirt"

And the perp was in the girls bathroom. Fact is we don't know if perp is trans or not.

#120 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-04-22 09:01 PM | Reply

"Fact is we don't know if perp is trans or not."

What does it matter if the perp is trans or not?

What changes?

Tell us.

#121 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-04-22 09:04 PM | Reply

Fact is the victim chose the girls room for the meeting

Fact is the alleged perpetrator wore masculine coded clothes in court

The ONLY thing you are basing your conclusion on is he wore a skirt

That is how a bigot thinks

#122 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-04-22 09:06 PM | Reply

Maybe it was just sex she regretted later.
Don't you think that matters more?

If not: Wasn't she asking for it by inviting a male into her safe space, twice before?

Tell us.

#123 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-04-22 09:06 PM | Reply


You asked about trend lines because the facts and the truth beat your stupid "point" to ----.
#119 | POSTED BY YAV

I disagree there are only so many women's national champions in the NCAA.

With a 20% NCAA championship rate it wouldn't be long before transwomen were out competing for more than half of them.

At what point is the number too much?

This is why saying only 32 compete is complete and total --------.

Truth is an overly emotional child, unable to understand the affect this has on womens sports.

If there wasn't a 20% NCAA Championship rate I wouldn't care, but the fact is its over representation of transwomen as Champions in Womens sports.

#124 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-04-22 09:26 PM | Reply

conservatives complained how Title IX forced colleges to subsidize unprofitable, unladylike women's sports.

So, I bet liberals, 50years ago like truthhurts argued they need to be supported.

#125 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-04-22 09:28 PM | Reply

With a 20% NCAA championship rate

Once again, 3 individuals. Heck... one more and your trend line goes up 33.3%!

#126 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-04-22 09:36 PM | Reply

" I bet liberals, 50years ago like truthhurts argued they need to be supported."

No, they questioned why equal didn't mean equal.

The same thing they wondered when gays were legally treated like second class citizens.

Liberals do crap like that.

#127 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-04-22 10:42 PM | Reply

I disagree there are only so many women's national champions in the NCAA.
With a 20% NCAA championship rate it wouldn't be long before transwomen were out competing for more than half of them.
At what point is the number too much?
This is why saying only 32 compete is complete and total --------.
Truth is an overly emotional child, unable to understand the affect this has on womens sports.
If there wasn't a 20% NCAA Championship rate I wouldn't care, but the fact is its over representation of transwomen as Champions in Womens sports.

#124 | POSTED BY ONEIRONAUT

When you have to lie....

There are 520,000 college student athletes

15 are trans women

0.002885%

15, one of the articles listed above has them all listed if you care to educate yourself.

#128 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-04-22 10:55 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Truth is an overly emotional child, unable to understand the affect this has on womens sports."

I can confidently state that YOU have no concept of the impact of 15 trans women have on college sports.

I can confidently state that the leagues, in consultation with medical professionals can assure just and competitive sports.

#129 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-04-22 11:02 PM | Reply

"I can confidently state that YOU have no concept of the impact of 15 trans women have on college sports."

What's the impact?

No matter how much you want to argue ... ... sooner or later you have to tell women athletes to STFU and allow these participants.

Good luck with that.

#130 | Posted by eberly at 2024-04-22 11:07 PM | Reply

"With a 20% NCAA championship rate it wouldn't be long before transwomen were out competing for more than half of them."

Vernon's Calculator, we've missed you!

#131 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-04-22 11:16 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

"sooner or later you have to tell women athletes to STFU and allow these participants."

That's up to the sport's governing body.

I know that's not something men who live to micromanage women can agree with.

But that's the way it is.

#132 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-04-22 11:18 PM | Reply

"the affect this has on womens sports."

Is it got Deplorables to care about women's sports.

Is there more?

#133 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-04-22 11:27 PM | Reply

Hey DanDork, women aren't equal, that's why women's sports exist. If men and women were inherently equal you wouldn't need separate anything. When you let mentally deranged men pretending to be women in womens spaces you get sexually assaulted women, which I know is something you love because why should women's rights trump some mentally ill ------ confused about his own gender.

#134 | Posted by THEBULL at 2024-04-23 06:59 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

#59 | POSTED BY KWRX25
You're pro rape?
Not surprising.
#73 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK

Just pro fair process for young men... you're pro sham trials now?

You're anti logical thought and reason?
Not surprising.

Is your screen name a reflection on what goes on in your head with thinking about an issue?

#135 | Posted by kwrx25 at 2024-04-23 09:17 AM | Reply

" Biden's New Title IX Rules Protect LGBTQ Students"

Stupid headline. These rules have nothing to do with LGB students.

#136 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-04-23 01:20 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Stupid headline. These rules have nothing to do with LGB students.

#136 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

And you're a stupid poster, who has nothing to do with honesty and integrity.

#137 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-04-23 01:42 PM | Reply

These rules have nothing to do with LGB students.
#136 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

The linked article says:

"[T]he new rules clarify that Title IX also forbids discrimination based on sexual orientation or gender identity. LGBTQ+ students who face discrimination will be entitled to a response from their school under Title IX, and those failed by their schools can seek recourse from the federal government."

Additionally, the regs themselves state that "These regulations ... clarify that sex discrimination includes discrimination on the basis of sex stereotypes, sex characteristics, pregnancy or related conditions, sexual orientation, and gender identity.

So while your obsession is with trans people, i can assure you these regs go beyond your recreational hate target. Now stop lying, liar.

#138 | Posted by JOE at 2024-04-23 02:06 PM | Reply

Now stop lying, liar.

#138 | POSTED BY JOE

LOL. Good luck with that.

Seems DingDong has no control over his lies. He is a willing victim of fauxrage algorithms. Educated by Fuxed News, Fakebook and Utube University.

#139 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-04-23 03:07 PM | Reply

"When it comes to the locker room issue I encourage you to listen to what young women who experienced it have to say about it. "

When it comes to "locker room issues" I encourage you to listen to Trumpy's Access Hollywood Tape.

And then ask women who have heard it, or worse have experienced it, how they feel about it.

Republicans are such hypocrites. And if you support them then so are you.

Obviously.

#140 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-04-23 05:12 PM | Reply

Disappearing after someone feeds you your own ass should just officially be called "pulling a Jeff" at this point.

#141 | Posted by JOE at 2024-04-24 04:12 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

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