"I've covered most of your points, TB, so no need to re-hash. However, I will comment on :

Too ironic! If anything, your statements "paint" Gov. Palin as 'a loser' and YOU don't even realize.

I do realize. Why would you think otherwise? I've never endorsed Palin. The only thing I've ever said positive about her is that she is a looker. And I'll defend that one all night! Just because I chastized people who went to extremes in attempt to denigrate her (surely you've heard me harp on the idiocy of trying to tie her to the actions of her daughter's boyfriend's mother) and came down on people who made fun of her handicapped child does not mean I endorsed her politically.

Consider this: if it's NOT true, then what's your point???

Read above paragraph. My point is clear and I stand by it.
#330 | Posted by goatman at 2009-07-02 05:51 PM

WHICH of my points have you covered, goatman???

In case you missed my points, I'll iterate:

#1. You falsely assume one "knows" the Democrats don't have a candidate worth voting for, so their strategy is to hope for a weak opponent. My point: yours is a weak (at best) assumption and there are other BETTER reasons to hope for a weak oppponent. Since your beginning premise is in doubt (as shown by my points), conclusions can not be drawn or supported from it. This you did not address.

#2. You state a 'decent candidate' would (should?) win. That's obvious and was noted as such, so that was neither addressed nor needed to be addressed.

#3. Your statement (and my point) is an iteration of #1, which (again) you did not address.

#4. This is the only item you DO address. You state that: "Funny to see the dems admit all they have to offer are losers, and they don't even realize they are admitting it. LOL". My point was your statement was ironic since you were doing PRECISELY what you accused "the dems" of doing. In addition, no dem has admitted that all they have to offer are losers. Since you haven't proven either case (1. that "the dems" admit that all they have to offer are losers or 2. "the dems" strategy is to hope for 'a loser' opponent), your conclusions have no stated basis.

Meanwhile, IF your only point is that Gov. Palin is "a loser", then I guess we're done. Otherwise, I would suggest providing some "hash" before claiming it's "a RE-hash". Of course, if I missed something you "hashed", please enlighten me...

"If memory serves, "science" comes from the Latin, "scientia", not from the Greek."

#148 | Posted by Zed at 2009-07-02 07:03 PM | Reply | Flag: idiot

"If English was good enough for Jesus it's good enough for me."
~Ma Ferguson

Madoff was a huge campaign contributor to the Dems. Just like Citi, Goldman, Lehman Bros, and countless other similar schemes that have resulted in trillions of dollars of losses, much of which will accrue to the taxpayers.

#8 | Posted by rightisright

Damn, I thought all thoes wall street people were true, blue reps.

Dude shut the hell up you lost all credibility when you suggested Keith Olberman isn't part of the corporate media and that Amy Goodman is in some way a legitimate journalist.

-----------

You are an imbecile.

Go away.

it's => It's

dammit

science is for losers anyway.

#264 | Posted by nullifidian at 2009-07-02 06:44 PM

Can't say I know the details, but I have heard of it. It's been a while since I associated with that part of our culture.

The media do not exist to inform.
Nor even to entertain.
But to sell.

Seen on the front page of the Wall Street Journal well over 30 years ago. The irony caused me to stop my subscription. it's all a billboard except for the peer-reviewed literature, which is an argument.

I didn't the gays STARTED aids.

I said it was first detected in the gay community.

Ok I didn't state it as such.

It first cropped up in the gay community in New York City.

It was called gay cancer at the time because they didn't know what it was until later.

rwd

pardon my naivete, but what exactly is a dickweed? i've heard it many times, but cannot come to a logical conclusion - it makes no sense.

#2 | Posted by nanc

Watch hardball and you will see a big one.

" It also seems like the corps that own the major networks are (?) interested in an adgenda(sic) than "reporting the facts".

#10 | Posted by Sniper at 2009-07-02 07:01 PM | Reply | Flag: more or less?

"Can any one identify what has changed since then?"

Has something really changed, or is it more that Hussein's Iraq was secular and didn't see it as "God's will" to behead the infidel?

"A sense of humor emerges..."

Much like Gojira from out of Tokyo Bay. Be afraid. Be very afraid.

More Bush hater talk...

What was clear in March 2003 was the fact that Saddam as stated in the article pretended to have WMD's. Everyone thought he had them...

TH: Simply not true. NO EVIDENCE as stated by the UN Inspectors. Many of the "claims" were already proven false by March 2003. Early March, Democratic leader sent a letter to Bush stating intelligence was wrong.

Most of the intel agencies around the world thought he had them because he stated that he has them.

TH: Simply Not True. War is not justified without definitive proof at least. Even assuming that were true, that is STILL not justification for an invasion. However there was no concensus. It becomes a matter for the jury.

After the envasion we found that he was full of crap and you want to revolk the presidents right to protect the US After the fact.

TH: So the justification is that we KNOW he had WMD and he doesnt. Ok. Nice. Seems a nation should have a little more certainty over the justification for an invasion. However it was KNOWN before hand no WMD, no THREAT, NO EVIDENCE per the inspectors. Other illegal actions would be deceit to congress over the accuracy and strength of the intelligence that Iraq had WMD, torture used to gain false intelligence used to justify the invasion (which was done).

My question here is....

Do you now think N Korea has them?

TH: Yes, however to my knowledge we havent invaded NK.

How about Iran?

TH: Not sure.

Do they both have the bomb?

TH: Not sure.

What should we do about that? Wait until Bethlahem is glowing maybe?

TH: Diplomacy, it is tough war is/should be a last option.

War is justified to stop and invasion or possibly to prevent an IMMINENT THREAT. The US has signed a treaty with the UN and the UN requires a resolution for the use of force. WE had neither.

It is just dishonest to say that IRaq posed any serious threat in 2003. They MAY have had a desire to obtain WMD, but that is NOT justification for an invasion, sorry.

More Bush hater talk...

What was clear in March 2003 was the fact that Saddam as stated in the article pretended to have WMD's. Everyone thought he had them...

TH: Simply not true. NO EVIDENCE as stated by the UN Inspectors. Many of the "claims" were already proven false by March 2003. Early March, Democratic leader sent a letter to Bush stating intelligence was wrong.

Most of the intel agencies around the world thought he had them because he stated that he has them.

TH: Simply Not True. War is not justified without definitive proof at least. Even assuming that were true, that is STILL not justification for an invasion. However there was no concensus. It becomes a matter for the jury.

After the envasion we found that he was full of crap and you want to revolk the presidents right to protect the US After the fact.

TH: So the justification is that we KNOW he had WMD and he doesnt. Ok. Nice. Seems a nation should have a little more certainty over the justification for an invasion. However it was KNOWN before hand no WMD, no THREAT, NO EVIDENCE per the inspectors. Other illegal actions would be deceit to congress over the accuracy and strength of the intelligence that Iraq had WMD, torture used to gain false intelligence used to justify the invasion (which was done).

My question here is....

Do you now think N Korea has them?

TH: Yes, however to my knowledge we havent invaded NK.

How about Iran?

TH: Not sure.

Do they both have the bomb?

TH: Not sure.

What should we do about that? Wait until Bethlahem is glowing maybe?

TH: Diplomacy, it is tough war is/should be a last option.

War is justified to stop and invasion or possibly to prevent an IMMINENT THREAT. The US has signed a treaty with the UN and the UN requires a resolution for the use of force. WE had neither.

It is just dishonest to say that IRaq posed any serious threat in 2003. They MAY have had a desire to obtain WMD, but that is NOT justification for an invasion, sorry.

Obama ran a campaign of "Hope and Change" which equated to smoke and mirrors. He promised the
world changes and promised to bankrupcy the power
companies. Well folks here we are and now you know
what he intended to do. Put all of us out of work, break the country with massive debt and taxes
for generations to come. Plus there is the unresolved question of his BIRTH CERTIFICATE. His Cap and Trade policy is a disaster in the making. The plan passed in the middle of the night always makes me nervous about the contex of what it contains. So far it doesn't sound good for us as workers or employers either. Unfortuately with his plans and a super majority in effect there are not checks and balences left to slow down and review before the democrats pass the worle away and put us so fare in debe our great great grand kids will never see the light of day again. His lack of business experience or job experience is definately helping him destroy the country. and his hatred of the military will leave us open for
attack from both domestic and foreign sources. It is just a matter of time till the other shoe fall.

If memory serves, "science" comes from the Latin, "scientia", not from the Greek.

i think what the guy is really saying is that 60 democrats don't really know their ass from a hot rock. they are pant pissing because their window until the next midterms is closing, and the american public are going to - for sure - take their 60 away first chance they get.

"On the other hand, I can name all the Village People."

#146 | Posted by Zed at 2009-07-02 06:59 PM | Reply | Flag: SHOCK!!!!

(A sense of humor emerges.)

Why should you expect the reporters that are a product of lib colleges be any different? It also seems like the corps that own the major networks are interested in an adgenda than "reporting the facts".

From the KOS linked article on this thread.

Let me explain, Helen Thomas has been very assertive as of late in regards to Obama becoming more like Bush, in fact, she has been pounding this type of behavior since the get go.

Today, however, Helen Thomas stopped being seen as a contrarian and became an Washington Establishment viewer. It began with Chip Reid attacking Obama's town hall as being staged. As Reid was attacking for Republicans (which is usually what he does), all his questions appear to be given to him by republicans, Helen Thomas starts blasting Gibbs on not being transparent EVER.

At that point, I was cheering her on, until she blasted Gibbs on Nico Pitney and my heart sank. She quite clearly said that the WH shouldn't "call people overnight and tell them they might get called on." Being a contrarian, I expected Helen to be the ONE person in the briefing room to actually understand that Nico Pitney was asking a question from an Iranian. In fact, as many have defended, Pitney's question was the TOUGHEST Obama had during his press conference, in fact, he dodged it to everyone's chagrin.

Gosh, you've just got to understand and explain.

It's amazing that the party in power, the Democrats, is NOT considered the establishment party by the lefties. They need to be "rebels." When they hold power, they are charged with doing something positive, and have nobody to criticize and blame. What a predicament.

Well there's a classic ad hominem argument. You certainly aren't a good representative of right-libertarianism. If I was a right-libertarian I would tell you to STFU.

#33 | Posted by nullifidian

I certainly have some great teachers from both the left and right here on the old retort to learn ad hominem arguments from.

If I were a right-libertarian that might offend me.

I tend to fall into the Minarchism wing of the party, but we have a pretty big tent in Libertarianism from left to right.

"Most Christians can't even name the Apostles of Christ..."

On the other hand, I can name all the Village People.

A SNAKE IN EVERY OBSTETRICIAN'S OFFICE! for late term abortions...

#18 | Posted by nanc

Another stupid comment from Nanc.

These parents should be charged with negligent homicide

"Please enlighten us with your definition of original sense of Libertarianism."

Sure. The word "libertarian" was invented by leftwing anarchists (Bakunin, Goldman, etc.) as an alternative self-description at a time when using the word "anarchist" was inviting a police raid. Those original libertarians were anti-capitalist and anti-state. Their vision of "liberty" was more than just freedom from the state, but freedom from the boss as well. Those pussies that call themselves "libertarians" in the U.S., on the other hand, just love bosses, as long as the boss isn't the government.

Wow. All of the sudden, instead of your 5th grade field trip on the DVD screen, there is your 5th grade teacher "pleasuring herself" as she lay nekked on the couch. Like the one father said, he was up until midnight explaining the birds and the bees. Talk about an "oops" moment.

The Iraqi leader had also intended to restart the weapons program and had the means to do it.

"He still had the engineers. The folks that he needed to reconstitute his program are still there," Piro said. "He wanted ... to reconstitute his entire WMD program."

Nuf said...

#111 | Posted by bashthis

so we started a war because one man wanted WMD, ok gotcha nice precedent.

Son; 'Dad, is that ms defanti'?

Dad; 'WTF. Well. let me see here...hmmmmm...oh that was nice....who would have thought she was so flexible...

Son; 'Dad'?

Dad; 'Son, I need to keep this..for evidence. Don't tell your mom...now go mow the yard'.

Son; 'it's dark out'!

Dad; 'well then go get me a paper from the store'.

San; 'Can I drive your car'?

Dad; 'You're only 11 yrs old...oh, what the hell...go ahead'.

"How an elephant got into my pajamas, I'll never know..."

-Marx

do I have to repeat AGAIN how congress did not authorize the invasion of Iraq?

So you are saying had Bush not received the votes he still would have invaded?

#110 | Posted by crispee_oc

I would say that question is irrelevant. He was not authorized to attack Iraq but to confront the continuing threat posed by Iraq. Proven Iraq was no threat, therefore no authority, pretty simple actually.

Great. An "Infomercial" selling detox products makes an entry into blogworld.

How incredibly stupid and gullible.

Or perhaps it's Jeff's business?

2 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine

Should be The World According To Gulp.

"Die Religion ... ist das Opium des Volkes"
~Marx

#265 | Posted by Zed at 2009-07-02 06:46 PM | Reply | Flag: addicted to imagining he has an imaginary friend

According to reports from Sin Chew Daily ...

No way. Sin Chew Daily?

religion = superstition = ignorance = brain dead

"That Americans who tried to overcome their distaste for blacks..."
~Johnson

Very, very telling phrase.

#29 | Posted by Danforth at 2009-07-01 06:54 PM | Reply | Flag:

What does it tell you, Danforth?

#30 | Posted by Johnson at 2009-07-01 07:37 PM | Reply | Flag:

You never did.

#31 | Posted by Danforth at 2009-07-01 07:42 PM

Interesting series of posts, Danforth. You're so enigmatic, so Zen. You must have studied Eastern religions and specialized in non-communication. Sorry that you feel unable to even try to articulate what you mean. Your posture is the last refuge of someone who has "a feeling," but no thoughts that he can express. Que tal.

"So what's your point...?"

My point is that people that love a drug never see what it can, and will, do to them. Addicts always see themselves as mere afficiandos. Afficiandos and addicts together are among the most smug and arrogant people there are.

I'm not a prohibitionist, but I can see why someone who isn't interested in reading all my posts can state that.

I'm simply stating a truth, that "moderation" is a very worthy goal, but when it comes to drugs and alcohol very few people do that.

It then cuts to... SEX!

I really hate news people... everything is just so scandalous. Not saying that this isn't scandalous... but do they have to be so smug about it.

"Go smoke some Hubba Bubba!"

Haven't come across that strain locally, Joe. What are the genetics? Indica? Sativa? Hybrid? Sounds good. I had some tasty Platinum Bubba recently, but no Hubba.

Exactly. Calling themselves "libertarian" in the original sense of the word is like Stalin calling himself a "democrat". They don't give a shit about liberty, only property.

#31 | Posted by nullifidian

Please enlighten us with your definition of original sense of Libertarianism.

Liberty and civil rights including property rights are inseparable.

"even though he has no authority to comment on any of what he posts"

That's an overly stringent rule for commenting on a thread, ZH.

By that standard, 99% of what anyone does here is beyond the scope of their expertise.

BOs comment so long ago regarding a certain matter being "above his pay grade" still applies. He doesn't grasp much of what is happening. Nevertheless, he's proceeding to impose totalitarian control on all possible aspects of American life regardless of the consequences. After all, he is a leveler. He has his grievances. But there is no pot in which to fish to find the means to rectify the wrongs against the poor and minorities (rich and poor minorities) in our country.

The best denominator of prosperity in this country may be the freeway traffic in urban areas. If you're traveling with fewer delays, the economy is languishing.

And if gasoline prices stay down despite the declining value of the dollar, you know that there is a reduction in worldwide demand due to decreased energy use which signifies economic problems, low production and low consumption.

Enact and implement cap and trade, and the proposed health plan, and we'll have 20% employment soon enough.

But then, the man running America has mentors, who have never run anything but their mouths.

Detroit and the sovereign State of California will be the models for the federal government to emulate. The necessary personnel are already in place. There is unrivaled federal corruption. Teapot Dome wouldn't be a blip on the screen nowadays. Corruption is institutionalized and accepted as part of the architecture of government. Combine corruption with ineptitude and what have you got? The Obama adminstration and the current Congress. What a travesty.

i forgot what i was going to say...

#2 | Posted by nanc

Thanks!

Oh, excuse me---I forgot---"Coup".

"Supposed Criminal" seems to be a more useful term than even "Enemy Combatant". Every country needs a term that allows you do do whatever you want with a person physically. I'm sure you agree.

i forgot what i was going to say...

Sorry, but gays didn't start AIDS.

I have alwsys wondered how AIDS was introduced to the gay community? Could it have been for form of biological warefare from someone from the religious community to proved God hates homosexuals. Remember the lovely chants from Christains during the 80's "AIDS is god's punishment for gays".

pokenzee pooches the world over!

IMO, war is war, we take prisoners, we torture them and sometimes they die.

Our enemy takes prisoners, tortures them and sometimes they die.

That is war. There is no escaping that. That is the purpose; to kill and maim enough people until the other sides says "Uncle." It is ugly, brutal and very inhumane.

All WE have left as a nation is how did we conduct ourselves? Are we pleased with our behavior or not?

To different people that means different things.

I can tell you that when I was in the Gulf during GHWB's war I was comforted that I was covered under Geneva and I don't remember beheadings occurring then.

Can any one identify what has changed since then?

Dude shut the hell up you lost all credibility when you suggested Keith Olberman isn't part of the corporate media and that Amy Goodman is in some way a legitimate journalist.

#32 | Posted by TXLIBERTARIAN

Well there's a classic ad hominem argument. You certainly aren't a good representative of right-libertarianism. If I was a right-libertarian I would tell you to STFU.

"Unless you can specify in their consitution that a supposed criminal can't be transported there (Costa Rica) there's nothing wrong with it...."

I guess my response is that you should find the category "Supposed Criminal" in that constitution, or in anyone's constitution. You guys never, ever really listen to yourselves.

The most I get from your arguments is that Honduras is a constitutional republic provided you close one eye and voluntarily pepper-spray the other.

Coup.

No. Protecting the right of people to patent an idea is not liberty, it is fascism.

A real libertarian would protect that right of the public domain.

Another pseudo libertarian fascist fraud.

#30 | Posted by Shawn

Dude shut the hell up you lost all credibility when you suggested Keith Olberman isn't part of the corporate media and that Amy Goodman is in some way a legitimate journalist.

Regarding the legalization, I would like to see the president say "Well, let's just try it for a year and see what happens".

That sort of approach seems rational and within reason of most level-headed Americans.

"the gays need to feel like victims"

Don't kid yourself. You wouldn't trade your rights for the rights of a gay woman. And if the government forbade you from collecting your husband's social security after he dies, yet you had to pay in to the SS system the same as others, you might "feel like" a victim as well. Same if the government denied you another thousand or so of the rights you & your husband, and my wife & I get to take for granted.

. Just grow, baby, grow.

#260 | Posted by nullifidian at 2009-07-02 06:19 PM

I bet you even have your own "special" garden, Nulli.

I ought to drive up and watch some fireworks with you on the 4th -- we'd have a high ol' time. lol

#258 | Posted by r8rh8r at 2009-07-02 05:55 PM

For someone who said "no offense taken," you sure seem offended. Sorry guy! Go smoke some Hubba Bubba!

"No. Protecting the right of people to patent an idea is not liberty, it is fascism.

A real libertarian would protect that right of the public domain.

Another pseudo libertarian fascist fraud."

Exactly. Calling themselves "libertarian" in the original sense of the word is like Stalin calling himself a "democrat". They don't give a shit about liberty, only property.

Spoken like a true fascist Skippy. All that's missing is "off with their heads." Free speech doesn't mean - is long as it's in line with my thoughts.

Oh--yeah--the gays need to feel like victims--so make up statements for an ongoing story regarding a cheating Gov and his family.

Makes perfect sense.

#14 | Posted by MURPHY

Uhm, ever heard of parody?

Or were you just looking for an excuse to gay-bash?

""In fact California should plant even more pot and start exporting..."

Good idea for everyone to consider who's been hit by the bad economy. Come to California and grow pot! (unless you're an rtard). You can get seeds and clones at hundreds of dispensaries, and with a prescription you can have 12 plants and 8 oz's dried to start, and if you start supplying the shops, much more. Just grow, baby, grow.

This is not true--why is this getting any attention?

Oh--yeah--the gays need to feel like victims--so make up statements for an ongoing story regarding a cheating Gov and his family.

Makes perfect sense.

"brussel(sic) sprouts"

Posted by goatman at 2009-07-02 05:53 PM

This guy needs a thicker skin.

All the stuff he reads about himself is simply the digital version of what people are yelling at their televisions about him.

Madoff was a huge campaign contributor to the Dems. Just like Citi, Goldman, Lehman Bros, and countless other similar schemes that have resulted in trillions of dollars of losses, much of which will accrue to the taxpayers.

#8 | Posted by rightisright at 2009-07-02 11:56 AM | Reply | Flag:

Did Madoff contribute to the Republicans at all?

"As it is though, the rest of the Muslim world will just say tit for tat"

Can someone explain to me how forcefully pouring water down a man's throat and decaptitation is "tit for tat?"

Who will protest the streets of San Francisco now?
RIP Mr. Malden.

Protection of individual rights whether they are civil rights or property rights which is a civil right is one of the few legitimate purposes of government.

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No. Protecting the right of people to patent an idea is not liberty, it is fascism.

A real libertarian would protect that right of the public domain.

Another pseudo libertarian fascist fraud.

Agreed.

This idiot must have forgot the rating CNBC gets. He should be happy anybody responded to his comment. If it werent for the people who watch CNCB just to see what the fools maddow and obermann can link "Bush is bad" there would be no one watching

Hey Frank, gotta throw that knee jerk flag right back at you. I think you missed the sarcasism.

And I must agree with Dumpling as far as promiscuity. For every gay bar in my town there are 20 straight bars with people getting wasted and having random hook ups.

End state sponsored control of cohabitation altogether. Get married in the church if you want.

"36 | Posted by prozacboi at 2009-07-02 01:08 AM | Reply | Flag: Thinks bank bailout fraud is OK if it comes from a 'D'

#39 | Posted by LIVE_OR_DIE at 2009-07-02 12:09 PM"

And where exactly did I state that....hint....I didn't because nanc took off on a tangent and started flat out lying(as are you) which is the only thing I addressed.

So it's now ok in the ol' Bombay?

No, but I would kick her.

"Sarah, I am going to rub my cock between your tits until I cum."

"Well how is that going to make me feel good MP?"

"Well when I'm done, I'll stop kicking you in the face. How's that?"

"You betcha big boy."

(It's not my joke. Please direct all angry emails to Doug Stanhope)

"In fact California should plant even more pot and start exporting..."

Um, where do you live, in a cave?

Can you say "Duh?"

Dickweed = the males a female brings over to your house who you don't want around. often spotted when a female brings a small number of females over along with their boyfriends and any number of other males. they don't bring drugs or alcohol or contribute anything to your party, they just worsen your odds of getting laid in the event that more females come over. from urban dictionary.

I told you he was trying to run away for good.

She just shot him down.

I hear his Lover came out and said she was not IN love with him.

The truth isn't out all the way.

Sanford went down there to run away and hide. He just got his ass kicked on the national stage having the Stimulus shoved up his ass and his wife had thrown him out of the house.

He thought that he could leave and be with his New Love and start a new life in Argentina.

He got down there and She said, "Say What?!?!?!?"

Kicked out by his wife, not wanted by his lover, he had nowhere else to go but back to work a beaten man.

Posted by Manypaths at 2009-06-30 12:55 PM |

And THAT is the rest of the story!

The Reich-wing meida is out of control.
It's not too late to stop the hate.[TM]
3 suggestions to restore free speech:

1. Ban hate-speech
2. Ban Reich-wing radio.
3. Ban Limbaugh

Be Well.

Lost in all the posts seems to be that many rightwingers here who used to deny that the U.S. tortured, are now tacitly acknowledging the fact.

Jeffy:

Could you please keep your coprophilia to yourself?

Too much information, and all that.

They sound like 8 year olds talking about baseball cards.

It is amazing how these Pot-smoking dolts on here know what type of weed is what

It isn't that amazing, they print the name right there on the bag, in English and everything.

Just wondering, how do you two brainiaic 'grown-ups' propose we differentiate between totally different types of cannabis? Would a number system work better for you, maybe sanskrit, or cuneiform? How about color-coded, is that less "childish"?

As if "Boston Lager Amber Pale Wheat Ale" is soooo sophisticated and chic.

#162 | Posted by Petrous

I agree 100%.

People need food and shelter to survive while business may want a tax break for greater profit. Which can we afford?

or to be fair

Business needs a modern infrastructure to be successful while a person on welfare may want a flat screen TV. Which can we afford?

The need or the want?

Gotta say, she looks good in the pictures.

She's hot. I wouldn't kick her out of bed.

#49 Furio: or "She straps it on and he takes it in the ass"

The crane operator is a good old Louisiana boy. But those coonasses eat frog legs, so maybe they eat iguana, too.

I had a good meal. I opted for the chicken pot pie and the brussel sprouts. No iguana.

And too many men neglect their kids.
#17 | Posted by cbob

Just as true among women. There's more to being a good parent than being the primary custodian.

Of course I say this as my 20 month old sits in front of the TV. But its Sesame Street, so I tell myself its okay.

Well I fucking fell for it.

Kudos!

Been going on for years.

"During the course of [my] administration [as President], and in order to disturb it, the artillery of the press has been leveled against us, charged with whatsoever its licentiousness could devise or dare. These abuses of an institution so important to freedom and science are deeply to be regretted, inasmuch as they tend to lessen its usefulness and to sap its safety; they might, indeed, have been corrected by the wholesome punishments reserved and provided by the laws of the several States against falsehood and defamation; but public duties more urgent press on the time of public servants, and the offenders have therefore been left to find their punishment in the public indignation." --Thomas Jefferson: 2nd Inaugural Address, 1805

#324 | Posted by TrueBlue at 2009-07-02 05:33 PM

I've covered most of your points, TB, so no need to re-hash. However, I will comment on :

Too ironic! If anything, your statements "paint" Gov. Palin as 'a loser' and YOU don't even realize.

I do realize. Why would you think otherwise? I've never endorsed Palin. The only thing I've ever said positive about her is that she is a looker. And I'll defend that one all night! Just because I chastized people who went to extremes in attempt to denigrate her (surely you've heard me harp on the idiocy of trying to tie her to the actions of her daughter's boyfriend's mother) and came down on people who made fun of her handicapped child does not mean I endorsed her politically.

Consider this: if it's NOT true, then what's your point???

Read above paragraph. My point is clear and I stand by it.

If you take almost 90% of what the press tells you and believe the oposite is true. You wouldn't be far off the mark. Thanks to them.. The world is truely Up Side Down.

"Nothing can now be believed which is seen in a newspaper. Truth itself becomes suspicious by being put into that polluted vehicle. The real extent of this state of misinformation is known only to those who are in situations to confront facts within their knowledge with the lies of the day." --Thomas Jefferson to John Norvell, 1807.

I'll do my best. Having a 3 day weekend sure is gonna help.

Viruses in Shoes Jeff.

Is everyone in Denmark as stupid as you are?

The outcome of the war is successful. The American empire is intact, the oil is secure and still being traded through OPEC.

Eddie, one of the driving ideas behind Cheney and the neo-cons Bush ket run the Pentagon was to break OPC, not keep it alive and well.

Did your mom have any kids that lived?

Time to start pushing back against the military industrial complex and cutting budgets significantly.

#161 | Posted by crispee_oc

This is an argument you can have with yourself. When Arnold took office there was an 8 billion dollar surplus. Now we are 24 billion in the red. Does that sound familiar?

You are still pursuing an ideological stance instead of a pragmatic stance so I will not argue the points with you. When this entire episode plays out over the next few weeks we shall see who was closer to the mark.

ff for Manypaths

Hey, glad you're back and on parole on DR.
Now try and make it last at least a week.

I certainly hope they do no more than torture this guy up to the level we torture. At least the guy will have a chance. But, I think it will go much much further.

Danni, who would you rather be tortured by? The US or the Taliban?

what hate are you speaking of. I've always said if Christians want to protect the "sanctity" of marriage, forget about restricting homosexual, concentrate on problems with divorce.