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Saturday, April 20, 2024

Jamelle Bouie: Last year, the United Auto Workers announced an ambitious plan to organize workers and unionize foreign-owned auto plants in the South. Wednesday, 4,300 workers at a Volkswagen factory in Chattanooga, Tenn., began voting on whether to unionize. The mere potential for union success was so threatening that the day before the vote began, several of the Southern Republican governors announced their opposition to the U.A.W. campaign.

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People will advance into the middle class no matter how MAGA stands in the way.

#1 | Posted by Zed at 2024-04-19 11:19 AM | Reply

"We the governors of Alabama, Georgia, Mississippi, South Carolina, Tennessee and Texas are highly concerned about the unionization campaign driven by misinformation and scare tactics that the U.A.W. has brought into our states," their joint statement reads. "As governors, we have a responsibility to our constituents to speak up when we see special interests looking to come into our state and threaten our jobs and the values we live by."

It is no shock to see conservative Republicans opposing organized labor. But it is difficult to observe this particular struggle, taking place as it is in the South, without being reminded of the region's entrenched hostility to unions - or any other institution or effort that might weaken the political and economic dominance of capital over the whole of Southern society.

The history of Southern political economy is to a great extent a history of the unbreakable addiction of Southern political and economic elites to no-wage and low-wage labor.

While most economic-related issues in the South don't necessarily reflect its history with slavery, they do often clearly echo many vestiges of it.

#2 | Posted by tonyroma at 2024-04-19 11:19 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

The Govs helped steal these workers from the Rust Belt, now they don't want the Union to help them get paid.

But then, the "Union" always has had a bad name way down South in Dixie.

#3 | Posted by Corky at 2024-04-19 11:49 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

I can imagine when these states were recruiting these employers to locate/re-locate to there that assurances were made they would publicly oppose unionization when unions came calling, even if they can't really stop it.

#4 | Posted by eberly at 2024-04-19 11:56 AM | Reply

As a result of Ford Motor Co.'s 2023 profits in the U.S., about 58,000 U.S. hourly workers will receive a profit-sharing checks averaging $10,416, Ford Chief Financial Officer John Lawler said Tuesday.

Temporary Ford employees will be eligible for profit-sharing for the first time, and the checks up are from $9,176 a year ago. The before-tax checks are based on a formula involving hours worked.

General Motors announced last month profit-sharing checks of $12,250 last month for its 42,300 hourly workers.

These are not bonus payments. Profit-sharing is negotiated by the United Auto Workers labor union as part of its collective bargaining contract. The Ford profit-sharing formula generates $1 for every $1 million of corporate pretax profit and compensated hours per employee.

www.courier-journal.com

Remember this next time your boss says unions don't work!

#5 | Posted by tonyroma at 2024-04-20 08:18 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Wouldn't it be wonderful if we could make "right to work fir nothing" laws disappear forever in America?

#6 | Posted by danni at 2024-04-20 06:53 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

And the union won!

It wasn't even close, 73% in favor of the union!

#7 | Posted by DarkVader at 2024-04-20 10:07 PM | Reply

Question to all: what make is your car? Your spouse's? Where was it manufactured?

#8 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2024-04-20 10:36 PM | Reply

Toyota. Japan.

#9 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-04-20 11:07 PM | Reply

Subaru, Indiana.

#10 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-04-21 12:41 AM | Reply

Preamble to the Constitution:
We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence,[note 1] promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

#11 | Posted by Hughmass at 2024-04-21 07:13 AM | Reply

We have a 2021 Chevy Trax and a 2006 Honda Civic Hybrid that refuses to die.

The recent VW Unionization vote in TN won with 72% of the vote.

#12 | Posted by jw2 at 2024-04-21 08:14 AM | Reply

#5
- Remember this next time your boss says unions don't work!

Unions don't "work" in RTW states - especially southern states.

#13 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-04-21 10:01 AM | Reply

Unions don't "work" in RTW states - especially southern states.

You insist on continually proving you're a moron. RTW laws affect unions but they in no way stop them from being effective for their members as it regards negotiating pay, benefits, and working conditions.

I should know. I belong to a union and I live in a RTW state. I work with 100s of union locals and all of them would laugh at your idiotic ignorance. As a matter of fact, 3 of the 10 states with the most union members are RTW states including the hub of the UAW, Michigan.

I don't know why you think RTW causes unions not to "work" in such states. They make organizing life and dues collection more difficult (depending on which state you're talking about), but they do not stop unions from working, period. So you can stop spamming multiple threads with disinformation. Thank you.

#14 | Posted by tonyroma at 2024-04-21 10:45 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

And to make clear, RTW gave individual workers employed in a position represented by a union to opt out of paying dues while they're still mandated by law to receive the same compensation and representation as dues paying members.

As usual, retrograde Republicans and their billionaire ownership/donor class thought that by giving people the option of getting something of great value for nothing would end up bankrupting the unions. It didn't happen. While varying percentages of workers do opt out in order to put more union-negotiated contract money in their pockets, most unions are still thriving and growing, especially after the pandemic.

And as shown by the just-completed UAW deal with the Big 3, unions announced a multi-million dollar effort to unionize American-based foreign car manufacturers and Tesla, their first vote was overwhelmingly positive as are signs at other plants still gathering cards in their attempts to hold union elections at those workplaces - almost if not ALL of them in RTW states.

#15 | Posted by tonyroma at 2024-04-21 10:56 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#14 | POSTED BY TONYROMA

He's just morbidly chiming in again to support something Trump might not like. If Trump likes unions tomorrow he'll be on board.

#16 | Posted by Zed at 2024-04-21 10:56 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Always remember that when the GOP was pushing,'Right to Work' laws, it left off the most telling part. The 'Right to Work (for a Liveable Wage)'. The GOP knew it was flinging red meat to an angry crowd in pushing Right to Work Laws. But they knew also that this would mean cheap labor and crush union support for at least a decade. Always question a politician when they are selling you something. Ask, 'what are the real motives behind this legislatiin or law'.

#17 | Posted by earthmuse at 2024-04-21 11:21 AM | Reply

"Unions don't "work" in RTW states"

I'll take Woefully Stupid Statements for $2,000, Mr. Jennings.

#18 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-04-21 11:26 AM | Reply

#18 | Posted by Danforth

You hit the Daily Double.

#19 | Posted by Angrydad at 2024-04-21 12:31 PM | Reply

"Unions don't work in RTW states"

I bet the police unions work just fine.

#20 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-04-21 12:59 PM | Reply

Bring Back Slavery!

#21 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2024-04-21 01:32 PM | Reply

- And to make clear, RTW gave individual workers employed in a position represented by a union to opt out of paying dues while they're still mandated by law to receive the same compensation and representation as dues paying members.

Hey dumbass, I know all of that. That's why unions don't do well in the "southern states" - I guess you missed that part. There are a few RTW states in the north who fair OK. But for the most part Unions don't do well at all in the South. Teachers, police, etc... they seem to be better off, but when it comes to manufacturing/Industrial/Construction, it's a horse of a different color. Which is why Volkswagen isn't going to lose a minutes sleep over this.

www.nber.org

But keep beating your chest like the moron you are.

#22 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-04-21 02:20 PM | Reply

" I know all of that. That's why unions don't do well in the "southern states""

Don't "do well"?

World of difference from "don't work".

Be sure to put the goal posts back where you found them when you're done.

#23 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-04-21 02:39 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

But for the most part Unions don't do well at all in the South.

Volkswagen isn't going to lose a minutes sleep over this.

Oh look boys and girls, Captian Obviously Stupid is back with more inanity! As Danforth already rubbed in your face, you didn't post about Unions not doing well, you said that they don't "work" which is a demonstrable lie and an admission that you don't begin to understand how unions "work" or why the "don't do well" is a meaningless statement as it regards their legal existence in Southern states. Unions "do very well" in most every place they exist because their root goals stay the same and no state as yet has legislated them into ineffectiveness. But, as I've stated before, any union's effectiveness is rooted in their members' engagement in jointly achieving their goals vis-a-vis their employment contracts. It's the same in the North, East, South, Midwest, or West.

The South's history and government have always been against worker organization as a means to lift wages and benefits. Their pitch to companies looking at moving there is based on those companies paying workers less than they'd make in more economically progressive or wage competitive cities and states.

But again, this has zero to do with any union either not working or not doing well in the South. You can rightly say that Southern states and many of their employers are typically hostile to unions and especially unionization efforts directed towards auto manufacturers, but that has nothing to do with unions themselves.

And of course VW isn't losing any sleep over the Chattanooga vote, but not for any reason you've identified in your anti-union burpings. Every single VW plant around the world is unionized EXCEPT Chattanooga until now. VW itself mandates union representation of their workers because their employment model is based on worker interaction with their ultimate business decisions.

Volkswagen workers have some of the strongest organized labour power of any company in the world. Some of these powers are codified in different collective agreements internationally. The German collective agreements cover 120,000 workers, nearly the entire German workforce.

Workers at all of its major locations are represented in the Global Works Council and local trade union bodies. VW Group has a tradition and practice of social partnership and co-determination rights between management and workers beyond the regulated standards.

en.wikipedia.org

Seriously, take your mealy-mouthed ignorant BS and shove it back up where it came from.

#24 | Posted by tonyroma at 2024-04-21 05:39 PM | Reply

My grandpa was president of a union local here in Kentucky and was proud of what he was able to do for the hard-working guys he worked alongside. He knew what was up.

#25 | Posted by cbob at 2024-04-21 07:43 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

@#22 ... like the moron you are. ...

Based upon what I have seen your current alias' posts here, if I may suggest...

Your current alias may want to be less, let's say, prolific in its failed attempts to ascribe "moron" to others.


Jus' sayin'

#26 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-04-21 08:03 PM | Reply

#8

Ford, Michigan

#27 | Posted by DarkVader at 2024-04-22 08:19 AM | Reply

#8 I have a Toyota tundra that was mostly made right here in Texas. (The tundra is 12th on the list of most "American made" vehicle models. The next closest truck is the f150 which is 38th.

I have an Acura that v was mostly made in America ... in Ohio. It's 10th on the list of American made models.

And I have a ford ranger that was made mostly in elsewhere. Can't remember where.

And I have a Dodge charger which almost none of it was made in America

It's funny that the most American made cars are Japanese. I don't care of the CEO of a company gets my money. I want to make sure American workers get my money. So after That Ranger (the charger is a corporate vehicle provided by work) I'll only be buying the ones made here from now on.

#28 | Posted by ABH at 2024-04-22 10:19 AM | Reply

27 VERY few fords are actually built here. Assembled? Maybe. But fords are all way down the list on vehicles that are made in the USA, and as a ford owner, it's sad.

My Ranger is 77th on the list of vehicle models made in the USA. TOYOTA AND ACURA all make much more their vehicles here.

#29 | Posted by ABH at 2024-04-22 10:22 AM | Reply

"I don't care of the CEO of a company gets my money. I want to make sure American workers get my money."

I see what you are saying, but over the long term, that's a net capital outflow from America. Seeing as workers only get 1/3 of the profits and all that.

I buy used cars so my Japanese car made in America doesn't count! ;)

#30 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-04-22 10:39 AM | Reply

I get that. But until American car companies start building their cars in America, the money is still going outside the us. They need to get the hint to employ American workers.

The top three employers of American workers for cars:

Tesla
Acura/Honda
Toyota/Lexus

That's really telling to me.

#31 | Posted by ABH at 2024-04-22 12:29 PM | Reply

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