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#3 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-04-12 04:56 PM
Capital is free to roam while Labor is held captive by national boundaries.

If the Labor "prices itself out of the market" by demanding (and receiving, often with the government's help) wages and benefits well in excess of its productivity ($/#widgets, $/work/hr), then $$ will find a way to shrink, or simply leave.

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#8 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2024-04-13 05:45 PM
"earning about $3 an hour, about 150% more than the Philippine minimum wage of $1 per hour." That is 200% more than minimum wage if the wage is $1/hour.

From the actual article:
|------- Though he didn't disclose Happy Cashier's wages, Zhang said, "We pay 150% more than the average cashier job in the Philippines," which, according to Indeed, is ... about $1, per hour as base pay. Using Zhang's approximation, Fortune calculated that Happy Cashier employees would make $2.50 hourly - 150% more than the $1 converted average. -------|

$1/hour is not "minimum wage" in Philippines, which is not discussed in the article (they don't have national minimum wage, only regional) but ranges from ~USD$6.15 to ~USD$10.90 per 8-hour day, depending on region, industry and type/terms of contract - daily (highest $/hour) or monthly.

Happy Cashier's employees may also be sharing restaurant tips on top of their wages, which are quite good for remote service BPO.
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#12 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-04-13 10:20 PM
Imagine writing ten paragraphs of nonsense to try to massage the plain truth labor isn't free to work outside national boundaries.

Maybe for those like you who don't have the necessary skill set, but millions of Americans are free to work and do work overseas ("outside national boundaries"), as well as millions of foreign workers are in the U.S., "outside of their national boundaries" - you wouldn't know because you never worked, traveled on business or lived for a while outside the U.S.

Imagine constantly writing nonsense, without even basic knowledge, experience or understanding of things they are writing about... then time and time again being surprised and keep b*t*hing that things turned out (again) not the way they expected, even as they have been warned of what the number of consequences would likely be.

Imagine that "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."

Imagine that "If you always do what you've always done, you'll always get what you've always got."
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#13 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-04-13 11:05 PM
Yeah, if labor does price itself out of the market, then the business owners will go elsewhere to resolve that labor cost issue. As your comment states.

OK, maybe there is still a light at the end of the tunnel.

And this is good for American workers, how?

Strange question, because it doesn't address the substance of the issues - but maybe we can correct the direction - much better and the right question would be :

"How can we stop the politicians in the government and the Big Labor [unions] from "pricing itself/us out of the market" through capricious populist mandates, laws, tariffs/taxes that make our labor, costs and products more expensive while making our productivity lower, so we can compete and don't need to outsource, automate and reduce costs through layoffs and/or cutting work hours?

#19 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-04-14 12:53 AM
Thanks for providing further evidence of corporate America exporting jobs overseas for little else than to increase the profits of their wealthy shareholders.
One thing I didn't see in the articles your comment cited was a reduction in prices to customers for that exporting of labor.

All right, light out, back in the tunnel.

How about businesses having to raise prices to end user (you) or having to fold altogether? See #11 for "the articles [my] comment cited."

Good night.
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#21 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-04-14 02:06 AM
OK, I think you just blew your cover.

What "cover" would that be, exactly? "Think" harder, please.

Up until that c#20 omment, I have seen you present links and facts. And I welcomed that for the discussion and the jousts I have had with you. But, with #20, your alias seems to have turned to the ad hominem attacks that I see in other trolls here on this most august site.

"Jousts" - really???

If this is the phrase that set your alias mind on fire - "Maybe for those like you who don't have the necessary skill set, but millions of Americans are free to work and do work overseas ("outside national boundaries"), as well as millions of foreign workers are in the U.S., "outside of their national boundaries" - you wouldn't know because you never worked, traveled on business or lived for a while outside the U.S." - then don't worry, it's hardly an ad hominem when

1) Snoofy (and/or his alias ) has readily admitted to that fact on numerous occasions, often proudly, though he/his alias often makes self-contradictory statements - quite often in the same sentence - which makes it impossible to take him/his alias seriously. Seems he/his alias thinks he mastered the art of the snark, and tries to show it often - I don't care about that, but on occasions when I have time I only correct the facts he/his alias is twisting to form an opinion, for sake of others lest they be misled. That's what we do at this most august of the august sites, is it not?

2) I also brought up a few facts and axioms (as well as links - yay, your favorite!) which were simply ignored in favor of posting of nonsense response which could easily be construed as an ad hominem.

I understand that your alias and Snoofy's alias are quite prolific posters - more posts in 1-2 days than I do in 1-3 months - so it may be difficult for your alias to keep up and know what Snoofy's alias copped to, especially when posting impaired (his alias' drink of choice is tequila, in case your alias cares to know) so I get how your alias could miss something so ordinary that many people (not trolls) on this site know very well by now and pointed out to his alias on numerous occasions.

Now, your alias knows very well that I am not a troll, and thanked me and my posts often for bringing sense to questions and topics you didn't know or understand, so the only reason your alias would try to imply such would be that your alias tried to get upper hand and "win" some kind of imaginary "joust"? That's weak and ineffective, so your alias should abstain from that course of action in the future, no matter how much psychic income your alias got from that at the moment - it tends to backfire. Make a note of it?

Ah-ha, I see what happened: your 2am-3am late night/early morning alter alias (in its standard 'fifth-grade teacher troll' mode) came out again and started its usual stupid trolling, as it does every two-three months for whatever reason?... BTW, trolls and their aliases accusing others of "trolling" is not a new tactic, and doesn't work, no matter how pleased trolls and their aliases are with themselves at the time.

I thought I and your aliases came to an agreement last time (December 2, 2023 3:05am) that your aliases should better control and keep in check your alter alias, and not waste my time any longer on what Pres Obama called "stupid s**t" as in "Don't do stupid s**t"? Can your alias impart that piece of wisdom on your "late night/early morning" alter alias and stop it from embarrassing your alias and more importantly, wasting my time explaining this again and embarrassing your aliases?

Thank you.
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