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Thursday, April 11, 2024

Six years after the Trump administration's controversial decision to withdraw from the Iran nuclear accord, the restraints have fallen away, one by one, leaving Iran closer to nuclear weapons capability than at any time in the country's history, according to confidential inspection reports and interviews with officials and experts who closely monitor Iran's progress.

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Thanks, Trumpism!

#1 | Posted by Corky at 2024-04-10 11:31 AM | Reply

Today, six years after the pullout, Tehran has bolted past nearly all the pact's constraints on the amount and type of enriched uranium it can possess, IAEA documents show.

In factory chambers that had ceased making enriched uranium under a 2015 nuclear accord, the inspectors now witnessed frenzied activity: newly installed equipment, producing enriched uranium at ever faster speeds, and an expansion underway that could soon double the plant's output. More worryingly, Fordow was scaling up production of a more dangerous form of nuclear fuel - a kind of highly enriched uranium, just shy of weapons grade. Iranian officials in charge of the plant, meanwhile, had begun talking openly about achieving "deterrence," suggesting that Tehran now had everything it needed to build a bomb if it chose.

Fordow's transformation mirrors changes seen elsewhere in the country as Iran blows past the guardrails of the Iran nuclear accord.

While Iran says it has no plans to make nuclear weapons, it now has a supply of highly enriched uranium that could be converted to weapons-grade fuel for at least three bombs in a time frame ranging from a few days to a few weeks, current and former officials said. The making of a crude nuclear device could follow in as little as six months after a decision is made, while overcoming the challenges of building a nuclear warhead deliverable by a missile would take longer, perhaps two years or more, the officials said.

This is the Stable Genius' legacy writ large. With Israel currently threatening Iran with a greater retaliatory strike should Iran decide to counterattack for their embassy's bombing in Syria, this news should be especially disquieting in Jerusalem. Trump and the GOP's impetulence is leading the world closer to a nuclear conflagration because the accord no longer constrains Iran's nuclear development.

Heck of a job, idiots.

#2 | Posted by tonyroma at 2024-04-10 11:31 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

This fiction that Donald Trump was ever a wise or strong man in foreign affairs has always been a source of giggles. MAGA needs to project divinity on the man as a means to cover up the fact that he can't find his ass with both hands.

#3 | Posted by Zed at 2024-04-10 12:27 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

No genocidal Zionists, no nuclear Iran.

Just who enables who?

#4 | Posted by pumpkinhead at 2024-04-10 02:54 PM | Reply

Iran is major regional power, given the persecution they have faced in their efforts to develop they Should become a Nuclear power as a deterrent to the Imperial aims of Israel and the West.

If Pakistan can handle having Nukes I'm sure Iran could too.

Israel is the wild card.

Those Losers don't see their enemies as being Human.

No sense of proportion or ability to see the viewpoints of others.

Israel won't last another 50 years.

#5 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2024-04-11 02:02 PM | Reply

Trump really screwed this up. But in a larger picture, Iran has just as much right to nuclear weapons as Israel does. ..Or as the US and Russia do for that matter.

#6 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2024-04-11 03:00 PM | Reply

No prob. Ace deal maker Dotard will swap Irans nukes for some land in Ukraine and make it all better ...

#7 | Posted by catdog at 2024-04-11 07:55 PM | Reply

Israel is the wild card.

Those Losers don't see their enemies as being Human.

Pretty sure that after 9/11 we didn't consider the terrorists we tortured in abu ghraib or gitmo as humans either.

At the very least we did not treat them very humanely. We certainly did not set a very good example.

And the number of Iraq War casualties ranged from 151,000 violent deaths as of June 2006 (per the Iraq Family Health Survey) to 1,033,000 excess deaths (per the 2007 Opinion Research Business (ORB) survey).

And Israel has had nukes since 1967. That's 57 years and they haven't used them yet.

Pakistan didn't get them until 1998. We'll get to see how that went ... 26 years from now.

#8 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-04-11 08:45 PM | Reply

Israel won't last another 50 years.

Neither will America. At this point there is nowhere else to go but supernova. "Things fall apart; the center cannot hold". With America's fortunes go Israel's, for it is an artificial construct that cannot survive and thrive without a sugar daddy facilitating its military impunity, enabling its sense of entitlement, and feeding into its narcissistic perception of infallibility.

#9 | Posted by pumpkinhead at 2024-04-11 09:15 PM | Reply

Iran already has nukes - it is an open secret the same as Israel.

#10 | Posted by Claudio at 2024-04-11 11:20 PM | Reply

@#10 ... it is an open secret ...

If it is an open secret ... got links?


#11 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-04-11 11:58 PM | Reply

"If it is an open secret ...
#11 | POSTED BY LAMPLIGHTER"

I don't want to play the 'chase a link game' today. So, you are free to go on believing that Iran has been only 1 month from having a nuke since 2014.

#12 | Posted by Claudio at 2024-04-12 12:25 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

I don't want to play the 'chase a link game' today.

It's ok to just say you don't have anything.

#13 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-04-12 12:39 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

If we are going to blame former president for this it goes right to Obama. 100%.

#14 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-04-12 12:51 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

@#14 ... it goes right to Obama. 100%. ...

Why?

#15 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-04-12 12:56 AM | Reply

@#12 ... I don't want to play the 'chase a link game' today....

So your current alias admits it has got nothing. Good to know.

... So, you are free to go on believing that Iran has been only 1 month from having a nuke since 2014. ...

My concern is about what your current alias posts, without any manner of substantiation.

Please do not try to cast this upon me and what your current alias may think [erroneously] what I believe..

But what your current alias has asserted, and now seems to be reluctant, oh so reluctant, to provide any manner of substantiation for. Let's talk about that...

Why does your current alias seem to be so reluctant to provide any substantiation for what it posts?

I have an opinion in that area but, first, I'll ask your current alias for an explanation.


#16 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-04-12 01:09 AM | Reply

@#13 ... It's ok to just say you don't have anything. ...

OK, so, I'm not the only one here who has noticed the seemingly vacuous nature of comments by that current alias?

#17 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-04-12 01:12 AM | Reply

I'm not the only one here who has noticed the seemingly vacuous nature of comments by that current alias?

It has been suggested that Claudio is the night shift version of Robson. Hard point to argue against.

#18 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-04-12 02:14 AM | Reply

@#18

Yeah, I would be remiss if I did not say that I have noticed a certain, let's call it --- shift work --- aspect to the posting patterns of some current aliases here.

But not necessarily strictly on a time clock basis.

But when one current alias seems to be getting hammered by replies to its ridiculous comment(s), that current alias goes away, and another current alias comes to the fore to continue the battle.

Almost like clockwork.


#19 | Posted by lamplighter at 2024-04-12 02:42 AM | Reply

getting hammered by replies to its ridiculous comment(s), that current alias goes away, and another current alias comes to the fore to continue the battle.

Usually by derailing the whole thread. Very true.

#20 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-04-12 02:47 AM | Reply

I don't want to play the 'chase a link game' today. So, you are free to go on believing that Iran has been only 1 month from having a nuke since 2014.

That's what the critics of the 2015 accord have been claiming since, well pretty much forever - which is the complete opposite of the IAEA documented with their personnel on the ground in Iran and the cameras they used to have trained on key Iranian enrichment facilities 24 hour a day until Trump caused them to be turned off.

You just can't measure the stupidity and ignorance of Clodio and Robotson, two peas in the same pod of disinformation and their nonexistent universe of alternative facts and imaginary observations.

#21 | Posted by tonyroma at 2024-04-12 07:28 AM | Reply

"I don't want to play the 'chase a link game' today."

Not even a Fuxed News link? Too busy playing the disinformation game to provide any actual links to your lie?

Got it. The usual then.

Thx!

#22 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-04-12 11:52 AM | Reply

" Israel is the wild card.

Those Losers don't see their enemies as being Human.

No sense of proportion or ability to see the viewpoints of others."

Sigh. It's a shame liberals hold so much hate against different groups of people based on their demographic. If you look at the viewpoints of others geographically, there are several major powers in that area that call for the elimination/genocide of Israel. So what viewpoints are you talking about? If your neighbors call for your death every day and you respond harshly, your logic is saying that YOU are the problem and not them. I mean, I can't even use the wrong pronoun of someone without my entire life being canceled but liberals are OK with anyone they don't agree with being threatened with genocide. They even support and encourage that death and genocide, which is all easy to research on record so it isn't even arguable. At some point, liberals are going to have to deal with their racism and discrimination. It may not happen until they have removed all of the demographic groups they don't like and only have themselves to eat but it will happen eventually.

#23 | Posted by humtake at 2024-04-12 11:57 AM | Reply

Seeking to forcibly remove a violent and psychotic oppressor that has been foisted upon you and your neighbors is not genocide.
Especially if that oppressor quotes 2000+ year-old genocidal passages from their own holy book to justify dehumanizing and systemically destroying you.

#24 | Posted by pumpkinhead at 2024-04-12 12:05 PM | Reply

Seeking to forcibly remove a violent and psychotic oppressor that has been foisted upon you and your neighbors is not genocide.

Just another tricky day in modern American politics.

But enough about Trumpy.

#25 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-04-12 12:27 PM | Reply

The minute Israel thinks that Iran will get a nuke they will nuke them. Why not? The Iranians have been talking about nuking Israel for decades and so why should they not believe that they would do this to them? The fat orange child/woman raping grifting traitor enabled Iran to move forward to achieving a nuclear weapon and yet we have to listen to our own traitors on here and in the GOP as they lamely attempt to blame it all on Obama or Biden? Give us a rest eh?

#26 | Posted by Wildman62 at 2024-04-12 01:21 PM | Reply

"Iran is major regional power, given the persecution they have faced in their efforts to develop they Should become a Nuclear power as a deterrent to the Imperial aims of Israel and the West.

If Pakistan can handle having Nukes I'm sure Iran could too.

Israel is the wild card.

Those Losers don't see their enemies as being Human.

No sense of proportion or ability to see the viewpoints of others.

Israel won't last another 50 years.

#5 | POSTED BY EFFETEPOSER "

You are just such an efffing fool. Does the fact that Iran has been bragging for decades about how and when they finally get a nuke they will use it on the evil Jews and Americans the Great Satan? Naw, just keep licking a country's boots that would not waste a second putting a bullet through your stupid skull and then vending your daughter into sexual slavery. Yet, here you are down on your hands and knees servicing these scumbags back in Iran once again. Why is that eh?

#27 | Posted by Wildman62 at 2024-04-12 01:29 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

^^ Settle down, Beavis ^^

#28 | Posted by pumpkinhead at 2024-04-12 01:45 PM | Reply

"Iran has been bragging for decades about how and when they finally get a nuke they will use it on the evil Jews and Americans the Great Satan"

Trump was going to repeal Obamacare.

Same energy.

#29 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-04-12 01:52 PM | Reply

^^ Settle down, Beavis ^^

#28 | POSTED BY PUMPKINHEAD

And take your upcoming nuking by Iran like a man.

#30 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-04-12 01:53 PM | Reply

I'm willing to risk Iranian overreach. They have shown great restraint to many obvious provocations. The Murder of General Soleimani, the endless Sanctions, the US domination of their political life by the Shah.

The US Material support of Iraq in their war of aggression against them. Etc.

Israel has murdered Iranian scientists, bombed Iranian facilities, tried to get the US to fight a war against Iran For them.

Iran having Nukes would force Israel and the US to stop persecuting them.

It would actually make the Middle East safer because Israel would be contained and prevented from their historical tendency to attack without cause and it would make them more likely to use diplomacy rather than military attacks in their dealings with Iran.

A Win for everyone but the Ethnic Supremacists and Bigots in Israel.

Boo Hoo, for them.

They would have to act like Human Beings and not vengeful Demigods.

This could only be a good thing.

#31 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2024-04-12 02:08 PM | Reply

#14 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

No surprise there, Jeff. And no surprise that you can't explain your reasoning. You've been off the rails ever since Obama was elected.

Obama had a deal in place. Trump broke it. It's as simple as that.

#32 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2024-04-12 03:06 PM | Reply

"Obama had a deal in place. Trump broke it."

Obama had a six nation deal. Trump doesn't multi party deals.

It's always Trump vs the other guy. It's a pretty simple concept, you isolate someone to make it easier to bully them.

#33 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-04-12 03:11 PM | Reply

As Iran nears nuclear weapons capability, accountability matters

The international agreement with Iran did exactly what it set out to do: The policy dramatically curtailed Tehran's nuclear ambitions and established a rigorous system of monitoring and verification. Once the policy took effect, each of the parties agreed that the participants were holding up their end of the bargain, and Iran's nuclear program was, at the time, on indefinite hold.

And then Trump took office and got to work abandoning the policy for reasons he was never able to explain.

In reality, once the United States was no longer a part of the agreement, the West lost verification access to Tehran's program, and Iran almost immediately became more dangerous by starting up advanced centrifuges and ending its commitment to limit enrichment of uranium.

A couple of years ago, Robert Malley, the then-special envoy for Iran, told the Senate Foreign Relations Committee that after Trump's decision, Iranian attacks on U.S. personnel in the region got worse, Iranian support for regional proxies got worse, and the pace of the Iranians' nuclear research program got "much worse."

www.msnbc.com

I get so sick and tired of the continuing right wing lies about things being better after Trump abandoned the accords. I'd never seen the following before as Trump's rationale for how he'd 'get a better deal than Obama,' but here it is:
In broad strokes, Barack Obama set out to use economic sanctions to get Iran to the international negotiating table. That worked and a breakthrough agreement eventually followed. Trump came to believe he could duplicate the strategy by abandoning the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA), restoring the old sanctions, and adding new ones.

If Obama's sanctions led to a landmark deal, the argument went, then maybe Trump's sanctions could produce an even better deal.

Except, that's not what happened. (link above)

And in the aftermath, the rest of the world is left to deal with the repercussions Trump alone set into motion. But you'll never hear a rightwinger reflectively admit that 'something' was far better than the nothing we now have because that nothing is actually something(s) that likely wouldn't have happened were it not for Trump.

#34 | Posted by tonyroma at 2024-04-12 05:27 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Israel has murdered Iranian scientists, bombed Iranian facilities, tried to get the US to fight a war against Iran For them."

No matter how much bluster, America will NEVER go to war with the Iranian homeland to protect a bunch of entitled, psychotic murderers who believe they are special based on partially fabricated rants from a 3000-year-old holy book. Waaay too much at stake. Anyone who thinks differently is either one of the entitled, psychotic murderers, their pathetic water-carriers or hasn't been paying attention.

#35 | Posted by pumpkinhead at 2024-04-12 06:24 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Israel is there so it can go to war with Iran or whoever elee as needed.

#36 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-04-13 12:50 AM | Reply

Pakistan didn't get them until 1998.

Pakistan got the ability to nuke a lab in 1977.. not able to make a nuke though.

It got nukes in 1983. Just didn't test them until 1998.

Why do you think the Russian suddenly bugged out of Afghanistan?

#37 | Posted by Monkeybars at 2024-04-13 01:24 AM | Reply

And India had a nuke since 1974.

See "Smiling Buddha".

#38 | Posted by Monkeybars at 2024-04-13 01:24 AM | Reply

Will Iran use a nuke the moment they get one?

Of course they will.

They are run by religious nutters with a deathwish. Right now... even without having a nuke.... they fired missiles at all their neighbors (Muslim countries BTW).

Iran needs to be torn apart.

#39 | Posted by Monkeybars at 2024-04-13 01:28 AM | Reply

when they finally get a nuke they will use it on the evil Jews and Americans the Great Satan?

They will use it on some poor random Muslim nation first.

Yet, here you are down on your hands and knees servicing these scumbags back in Iran once again. Why is that eh?

EFFET is from Iran. LOL

What? You didn't know?

#40 | Posted by Monkeybars at 2024-04-13 01:30 AM | Reply

Iran and Israel should go to war as soon as possible.

Best thing would be if they kill each other.

Pakistan would lose a lousy neighbor. (Iran)

We might even cry a few crocodile tears.

USA would lose a scum nation (Israel) that ruins America's relations with the rest of the world, that sucks billions of American money into it's own bum and which tries it's best to have Americans die for itself (Israel).

America deserves better.

But you all know nothing of the sort will happen.

#41 | Posted by Monkeybars at 2024-04-13 01:58 AM | Reply

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