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Sunday, April 07, 2024

Two of the most interesting things ever to happen in American politics happened in the past few years. A Democratic presidential campaign, representing the incumbent party, fabricated evidence that its Republican opponent and the eventual president-elect was a Russian agent, and the in-power party's FBI legitimated the evidence in the eyes of the media so it would be widely reported and believed by the public. To make sure it was believed, top intelligence officials of the outgoing administration went on cable television to call the new president a Russian mole and Vladimir Putin his case officer.

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When the formerly incumbent party's candidate was seeking to reclaim the White House four years later, the same former officials concocted a new lie to cover up embarrassing information about the candidate's family. These highly connected former officials had five days to check things out before claiming Hunter Biden's laptop had "classic earmarks of a Russian information operation." The New York Post included a receipt showing the FBI had already been in possession of the data for 10 months. Its story documented how the Post acquired the same data. Specific, dated and verifiable events and messages weren't denied by the Bidens, etc.

Obama intelligence officials James Clapper and John Brennan, and their 49 colleagues, lie today when they say they weren't lying then.

These realties have been acknowledged on these pages, in a few other papers around the country, on Fox News and at some partisan websites. They might as well never have happened as far as most of the press is concerned

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Trump is a Russian asset, although it would not surprise me that he's an actual agent. He accepts help from foreign enemies and extends help toward them.

#1 | Posted by Zed at 2024-04-07 02:22 PM | Reply

Once again Donald Trump, the most disloyal person ever to hold the White House, is held to be treated unfairly.

Why do you do this?

#2 | Posted by Zed at 2024-04-07 02:24 PM | Reply

Ballwasher the dumbass.

#3 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2024-04-07 03:08 PM | Reply

About the article author....

"Wall Street Journal Columnist Discovers Trump Defense to End All Trump Defenses

President Trump's defenders have constructed elaborate defenses for his multitudinous violations of laws and political norms. Holman Jenkins Jr., the longtime Wall Street Journal editorial writer and columnist, has crafted a comprehensive rationale for defending Trump that renders every case-by-case rationale superfluous.

Jenkins argues that the only ethics in politics and governing is triumphing over your partisan enemies.

Jenkins and his Journal editorial page colleagues have mounted a characteristically unyielding defense of Trump on the Russia scandal. The FBI is biased, Trump has done nothing wrong on Russia, and so on.

But what makes Jenkins's argument so extraordinary is that it does not rely on this, or any particular set of facts, being true."

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nymag.com

#4 | Posted by Corky at 2024-04-07 03:13 PM | Reply

"A Democratic presidential campaign, representing the incumbent party, fabricated evidence that its Republican opponent and the eventual president-elect was a Russian agent"

I stopped right there.

Team Trump was telling America it had zero contact with Russians, when in fact it had over 100 contacts with Russians, all according to the Marco Rubio-lead Senate Republican report. Republicans called it a "grave security threat".

This author is gaslighting. Or, like seemingly every other Republican, has avoided reading the Rubio Report like the plague.

Much like the thread poster.

#5 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-04-07 03:13 PM | Reply

"fabricated evidence"

Seems wholly unnecessary, when there's so much valid evidence that its Republican opponent and the eventual president-elect is a Russian agent.

#6 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-04-07 03:16 PM | Reply

"Philosophically, this is quite chilling. It does not even rise to the level of fascism, which at least pretends to create a moral framework for a politics of zero-sum domination.

It is the anti-ethos of mafiosi and serial killers.

In any case, Jenkins is sure to defend any and all steps Trump and his party take to defend themselves, but he shouldn't pretend that his position on those steps has any bearing on his support.

He's blurted out his belief that Republicans are entitled to do literally anything it takes."

That's cold... lmao.

#7 | Posted by Corky at 2024-04-07 03:16 PM | Reply

I stopped right there.

#5 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-04-07 03:13 PM | Reply | Flag

It's a good thing you did. You're way too closed minded, weak and feeble to continue with something that would go against what you've been told by your masters.

#8 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-04-07 03:18 PM | Reply

when there's so much .
- snoofy

Yes America is in a bind, when there is even more valid evidence that the Democrat candidate and the eventual president-elect is a Chinese agent.

As Comey said.

So many questions.

#9 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-04-07 03:19 PM | Reply

Other than the tiny detail of the lack of any evidence, you make a valid point!

And good job on the Both Sides.

Expect to see an increase in you Social Credit Score, valued Chinese Citizen.

#10 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-04-07 03:21 PM | Reply

What's truly funny is, having read the entire thread article... the author admits everything said about him in the nymag article and doubles down on it.

Yes, he says, Trump is horrible, but rwing partisanship trumps the rule of law... much less decency.

#11 | Posted by Corky at 2024-04-07 03:23 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Look at these pathetic MAGAts simping for Putin's butt ----.

#12 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2024-04-07 03:34 PM | Reply

reinheitsgebot says what?

#13 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-04-07 03:44 PM | Reply

when there is even more valid evidence that the Democrat candidate and the eventual president-elect is a Chinese agent.

#9 | POSTED BY ONEIRONAUT

I'm sorry...Was there a FIRST piece of evidence? I must have missed it. I'm sure you won't mind stating it.

But it looks like you have no hope of Trump winning and so good for you.

#14 | Posted by Zed at 2024-04-07 03:50 PM | Reply

IAMRUNT is the most pathetic Putin-fluffing butt ---- this site has to offer.

#15 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2024-04-07 03:52 PM | Reply

I knew this was a dick face thread with out even looking

#16 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-04-07 04:01 PM | Reply

The aftermath of the Russia collusion hoax has been fascinating to watch. A normal person would be livid they they were lied to and manipulated for two and a half years. They would have an extremely difficult time ever again trusting the sources that lied to them. Instead, most have double downed. It's almost like you all HAVE to believe it.

#17 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-04-07 04:05 PM | Reply

Is this where Patricide Jeff says he didn't vote for the demented orange pedo?

#18 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2024-04-07 04:09 PM | Reply

"Russia collusion hoax "

Here's a link to The Rubio Report.
www.intelligence.senate.gov"We%20can%20say%2C%20without%20any,irrefutable%20evidence%20of%20Russian%20meddling.

Educate yourself. No more ignorance as an excuse. You're basically denying WHAT THE REPUBLICANS ADMITTED.

#19 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-04-07 04:13 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"A normal person would be livid they they were lied to and manipulated for two and a half years."

So what did you do when you found out Team Trump had been lying to you about contacts with Russians?

#20 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-04-07 04:14 PM | Reply

"Instead, most have double downed. It's almost like you all HAVE to believe it."

I was wondering why my latest irony meter had exploded.

Remind us: how many primary-voting Republicans believe Trump really won in 2020?

#21 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-04-07 04:18 PM | Reply

The aftermath of the Russia collusion hoax has been fascinating to watch. A normal person would be livid they they were lied to and manipulated for two and a half years.
- bellringer

This describes me.

I was balls deep, not as far as Corky. When watching the lie fall apart one item at a time.

At this point I am of the belief Trump, being the most investigated human on the planet, is probably the most honest person on the planet.
Doesn't mean he's perfect, but he's more honest than snoofy and corky combined.

I doubt any politician of more than 10yrs could withstand the scrutiny he has.

It's upsetting, I came to the country hoping for a better place. But have found it to be full of crooks, thieves, and liars.

#22 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-04-07 04:25 PM | Reply

Imagine Musk hiring Former Trump staffers and putting them in positions for moderation and content control. Then imagine Twitter having weekly meetings with key members of the Trump administration. Then imagine as this kicks off lefties find themselves getting shadow banned, losing followers, getting nonsensical suspensions. That was happening before Musk bought Twitter.

As for Russian collusion - it doesn't get more blatant and corrupt than the Steele Dossier.

#23 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-04-07 04:26 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

As for Russian collusion - it doesn't get more blatant and corrupt than the Steele Dossier.
#23 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

Oh yes it does. But wouldn't expect a political hack like yourself to recognize it.

#24 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2024-04-07 04:41 PM | Reply

"Far from a hoax, as the president so often claimed, the report reveals how the Trump campaign willingly engaged with Russian operatives implementing the influence effort.

For instance, the report exposes interactions and information exchanged between Russian intelligence officer Konstantin Kilimnik and then-Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort.

According to the report, campaign figures "presented attractive targets for foreign influence, creating notable counterintelligence vulnerabilities." (Manafort was later convicted of tax and bank fraud.)"

www.nbcnews.com

That being the Rubio-led Bipartisan Senate Report.

You Republicans should just follow the thread article's author's admission that facts, truth, and evidence are not important when it comes to rwing partisanship... which you greatly prefer to those minor inconveniences.

#25 | Posted by Corky at 2024-04-07 04:47 PM | Reply

Republicans: We did this.

Cult members: NO YOU DIDN'T!

Republicans: No, really, WE DID IT. Here's proof of over 100 meetings between Team Trump and the Russians.

Cult members: FAKE NEWS!

Republicans: Don't you get it? WE'RE ADMITTING IT.

Cult members: THAT WON'T STOP US!

#26 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-04-07 04:53 PM | Reply

Uygur: "I'm Now Considering RFK Jr." He says Biden has "been corrupt his whole life."

"You're never going to get anything but corruption from Joe Biden."

Uygur issued another statement:

"The Democratic party ... they love to rig elections. Yes, I use the word rigged. Okay, so you can go cry about it. If you're mainstream media, how about you do your job and talk about how they canceled the election in Florida in the primary and just declared Biden the winner. So, if you're going to make the argument that you're a champion of democracy, you should probably try it in your own primaries."

Uygur is a leftist, like me ... Biden is a fraud.

#27 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-04-07 04:54 PM | Reply

A trash thread posted by a lying piece of ----, the worst troll on the DR, one with no morals, not scruples, no shame, the one person around here that no one respects.

Hey jeff, go ---- yourself, why don't ya. No one here likes you. You used to be somewhat passable as a human being, now you're just ---- in jeans and a t-shirt. You really should stop posting, you do nothing but post lies and misinformation.

You are not a good person. Seriously, go to therapy or something. You've lost whatever marbles you ever had.

Oh and these ads suck balls, they are slightly less annoying then dick face.

#28 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-04-07 04:56 PM | Reply

#28. Provide an address and I'll pay a hooker to give you a BJ that you desperately need but are too cheap to pay for yourself.

I can't imagine carrying even a fraction of the amount of hatred you carry. And your obsession with me is creepy.

#29 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-04-07 04:59 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Russian spy Maria Butina ------ her way through half the Repugs in DC.

www.reuters.com

#30 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2024-04-07 05:08 PM | Reply

"Hey jeff, go ---- yourself, why don't ya. No one here likes you."

BellDDS is respected a MILLION times more than you'll ever experience.

No matter what he posts you disagree with. Or is outright wrong.

YOU will always be WORSE.

TRUTHHURTS tried to out the identity of a poster here.

Not BellDDS

TRUTHHURTS.

#31 | Posted by eberly at 2024-04-07 05:14 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"I'll pay a hooker to give you a BJ"

Twoothy prefers little boys.

Anybody dragging around this much hostility has to be a freak we should line up and shoot in the head.

#32 | Posted by eberly at 2024-04-07 05:17 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#28. Provide an address and I'll pay a hooker to give you a BJ that you desperately need but are too cheap to pay for yourself.
I can't imagine carrying even a fraction of the amount of hatred you carry. And your obsession with me is creepy.

#29 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

Doesn't make your threads any less ---- and your posts any less full of lies dick face

#33 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-04-07 05:30 PM | Reply

7th word in your first post on this thread, dick face, was a lie.

You are incapable of lying.

Because you are a liar.

#34 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-04-07 05:32 PM | Reply

But you don't support ------- right dick face? You say he is a horrible person and unworthy of your vote. But you don't defend him, right?

Something tells me you send him lots of $ and vote for him early and often.

#35 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-04-07 05:33 PM | Reply

That was happening before Musk bought Twitter.

Musk is promoting literal nazis.

#36 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-04-07 05:34 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

www.youtube.com

Here educate yourself-1 1/2 hours of musk loving nazis

#37 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-04-07 05:35 PM | Reply

Musk loves and promotes nazis-that's the actual truth

I suppose that means dick face loves nazis too

#38 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-04-07 05:39 PM | Reply

"TRUTHHURTS tried to out the identity of a poster here."

If you haven't done anything wrong, you have nothing to hide.
Signed,
Republicans

#39 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-04-07 05:41 PM | Reply

I see truth is at the struggle session microphone.

Truth is an authoritarian at heart.

The gaslighting is the tell.

#40 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-04-07 05:47 PM | Reply

- Uygur is a leftist, like me

"Leftier Than Thou" frauds.

But hey, if attention trolling is the only way you can be even slightly relevant, then that's what a simp will do.

#41 | Posted by Corky at 2024-04-07 05:47 PM | Reply

If you haven't done anything wrong, you have nothing to hide.
Signed,
Republicans

#39 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

No no no.. this is what lamplighter said.
I did see you comment on the 500 cameras CA is installing.

Where were you?

#42 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-04-07 05:48 PM | Reply

"Russian spy Maria Butina ------ her way through half the Repugs in DC."

Kompromat is how Russian politics is done.

The GOP is compromised and they know it.
That's why they come up with stuff like "Better Red Than Democrat."
Because they are already Red, and they know it.

#43 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-04-07 05:48 PM | Reply

But hey, if attention trolling is the only way you can be even slightly relevant, then that's what a simp will do.

#41 | POSTED BY CORKY

He is what he is

He said what he said.

He's less of an attention troll than you are.

#44 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-04-07 05:49 PM | Reply

Kompromat is how Russian politics is done.
- snoofy

Now do Eric on the intelligence committee.

And turtle... That's a good one too.

Russian women have nothing on Chinese women.

#45 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-04-07 05:51 PM | Reply

"Russia collusion hoax"

Which one is the hoax, because all the Russian collusion I've heard about is true.

#46 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-04-07 05:52 PM | Reply

"Now do Eric on the intelligence committee."

The House Ethics Committee cleared him.
Are you saying that's not how it should have gone down?

#47 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-04-07 05:55 PM | Reply

Russian women have nothing on Chinese women.

Mara Pedo is lousy with Chinese spies.

www.vox.com

#48 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2024-04-07 06:01 PM | Reply

Speaking of Eric.

We have all the funding we need out of Russia

thehill.com

#49 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2024-04-07 06:06 PM | Reply

1Nut having even one nut is the Chinese Hoax, lmao.

These KKKlowns don't want to talk about the article author's premise that rwing partisanship rules in the Republican Party... way more than truth, justice, and the American Way.(tm)

The ends do, indeed, justify the means in the GOP.

And with their leftier than thou enablers.

#50 | Posted by Corky at 2024-04-07 06:07 PM | Reply

" You're way too closed minded,"

Riiiiiiight.

So did the democrats fabricate, or did Jeff Sessions walk in to a Russians office while the Russian was being surveilled?

To goose your memory, Jeff Sessions had three swings at "the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth" until the truth came out.

So tell me who is gaslighting: this author, you, or both?

#51 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-04-07 08:43 PM | Reply

Any other second stringers want to have a go?

#52 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-04-07 08:47 PM | Reply

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