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Monday, April 01, 2024

As hate crimes legislation came into force in Scotland, the Harry Potter author issued a flurry of social media posts declaring that a string of trans women were men. PM Sunak supported Rowling stating that 'people should not be criminalised for stating simple facts on biology' after author dared police to arrest her for 'misgendering'

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Rowlinga Arrestiamus!

#1 | Posted by censored at 2024-04-01 10:05 PM | Reply

J.K. Rowling is a venomous bigot who uses her fame and power to make life harder for transgender women.

As someone who knows several transgender people well I think what has become of Rowling is nauseating. She's a repulsive human being.

#2 | Posted by rcade at 2024-04-01 11:02 PM | Reply

Kaitlyn Jenner angling for a role in "The Cursed Child"

#3 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2024-04-01 11:10 PM | Reply

Rowling certainly doesn't fit the narrative of a stereotypical anti-trans bigot.

Sad.

My 2 oldest are really great readers. Harry Potter was just awesome for them.

They're both very disappointed over this, as am I.

#4 | Posted by eberly at 2024-04-01 11:16 PM | Reply

Be what you want, what's it matter? Nothing bad happens to anyone if J.K. Rowling decides she's a man.

Transgender people span cultures and history.

#7 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-04-01 11:24 PM | Reply

I personally don't want her arrested. She's free to be a transphobic bigot.

#8 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2024-04-01 11:33 PM | Reply

"you dad's sperm had not travelled from the whore's ass down her hairy taint to her moldy vagina."

Lovely image

#12 | Posted by eberly at 2024-04-01 11:37 PM | Reply

Rowling's post:

April Fools! Only kidding. Obviously, the people mentioned in the above tweets aren't women at all, but men, every last one of them.In passing the Scottish Hate Crime Act, Scottish lawmakers seem to have placed higher value on the feelings of men performing their ... " J.K. Rowling (@jk_rowling) April 1, 2024

#13 | Posted by censored at 2024-04-01 11:37 PM | Reply

en.m.wikipedia.org

Accounts of transgender people (including non-binary and third gender people) have been identified going back to ancient times in cultures worldwide. The modern terms and meanings of transgender, gender, gender identity, and gender role only emerged in the 1950s and 1960s. As a result, opinions vary on how to categorize historical accounts of gender-variant people and identities.

The galli eunuch priests of classical antiquity have been interpreted by some scholars as transgender or third-gender. The trans-feminine kathoey and hijra gender roles have persisted for thousands of years in Thailand and the Indian subcontinent, respectively. In Arabia, khanith (like earlier mukhannathun) have occupied a third gender role attested since the 7th century CE. Traditional roles for transgender women and transgender men have existed in many African societies, with some persisting to the modern day. North American Indigenous fluid and third gender

#14 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2024-04-01 11:37 PM | Reply

Perhaps you should be more active if you're dealing with high blood pressure. Walking 4 to 5 miles a day and salads are a fantastic way to counteract that. That's how I maintain perfect blood pressure.

#16 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2024-04-01 11:47 PM | Reply

Laura, they can't handle the fact that trans people exist, non-binary people exist. There entire identity is surrounding that fallacy that trans and non-binary people exist.

I sincerely believe it is fear of their own gender identity. The JK Rowling's of the world are terrified that they are not woman enough and the bluewaffles live in fear of being treated like a woman-probably a fear/fascination with being on the receiving end of penetrative sex.

A good ------- would solve a great number of the world's problems.

#17 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-04-01 11:47 PM | Reply

Perhaps you should be more active if you're dealing with high blood pressure. Walking 4 to 5 miles a day and salads are a fantastic way to counteract that. That's how I maintain perfect blood pressure.

#16 | POSTED BY BLUEWAFFLES

Or maybe it's the diabeetus medicines, or my epilipsy medicine or maybe you're just a ------- idiot for believing something on the internet. Who knows?

Send me your ATM number and pin and I'll tell you the truth.

#18 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-04-01 11:49 PM | Reply

Just friendly advice, but based off of your responses it's rather evident you aren't a happy person and I can see why you're on medication. Again Salads and daily walks might change that for you. Have a lovely night!

#19 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2024-04-01 11:52 PM | Reply

Just friendly advice, but based off of your responses it's rather evident you aren't a happy person and I can see why you're on medication. Again Salads and daily walks might change that for you. Have a lovely night!

#19 | POSTED BY BLUEWAFFLES

Just friendly rejoinder, go ---- yourself.

mmmmm that feels much better.

#20 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-04-01 11:55 PM | Reply

TRUTHY @ #6

LOL ~ Have you ever considered taking up writing? There's a book in that thar post somewhere.

#22 | Posted by Twinpac at 2024-04-02 04:20 AM | Reply

It seems that there's some misunderstanding, perhaps deliberate, amongst the "pro-trans" crowd regarding Rowling's point.

Rowling didn't claim that trans people are not real. Rowling objects to appropriation of the word "woman" to refer to males who identify as adult females (which, up until recently, was the universal definition of "woman").

The idea that Rowling might face imprisonment for acknowledging that trans-women are not the same as non-trans-women is borderline ridiculousness. It's pretty much on par with The Emperor's New Clothes, but that seems to be the way our enlightened woke mob wants it. All the rest of us can do is roll our eyes (figuratively speaking, since observable eye-rolling might also result in a hate crimes charge) and play along.

#23 | Posted by censored at 2024-04-02 07:46 AM | Reply

The complete text of Rowling's post (since the embedding didn't work):

April Fools!

Only kidding. Obviously, the people mentioned in the above tweets aren't women at all, but men, every last one of them.

In passing the Scottish Hate Crime Act, Scottish lawmakers seem to have placed higher value on the feelings of men performing their idea of femaleness, however misogynistically or opportunistically, than on the rights and freedoms of actual women and girls. The new legislation is wide open to abuse by activists who wish to silence those of us speaking out about the dangers of eliminating women's and girls' single-sex spaces, the nonsense made of crime data if violent and sexual assaults committed by men are recorded as female crimes, the grotesque unfairness of allowing males to compete in female sports, the injustice of women's jobs, honours and opportunities being taken by trans-identified men, and the reality and immutability of biological sex.

For several years now, Scottish women have been pressured by their government and members of the police force to deny the evidence of their eyes and ears, repudiate biological facts and embrace a neo-religious concept of gender that is unprovable and untestable. The re-definition of 'woman' to include every man who declares himself one has already had serious consequences for women's and girls' rights and safety in Scotland, with the strongest impact felt, as ever, by the most vulnerable, including female prisoners and rape survivors.

It is impossible to accurately describe or tackle the reality of violence and sexual violence committed against women and girls, or address the current assault on women's and girls' rights, unless we are allowed to call a man a man. Freedom of speech and belief are at an end in Scotland if the accurate description of biological sex is deemed criminal.

I'm currently out of the country, but if what I've written here qualifies as an offence under the terms of the new act, I look forward to being arrested when I return to the birthplace of the Scottish Enlightenment.

If you agree with the views set out in this tweet, please retweet it.

#ArrestMe #AprilFools #HateCrimeActScotland

#24 | Posted by censored at 2024-04-02 08:00 AM | Reply

The idea that Rowling might face imprisonment for acknowledging that trans-women are not the same as non-trans-women is borderline ridiculousness.

You just disproved your own comment by reprinting what Rowling said. The sad sick bigot called transgender women "men performing their idea of femaleness, however misogynistically or opportunistically." That's a lot further than just saying transgender women are different. Rowling is full of so much hatred she has to twist the knife.

People who defend her have to lie about her to do it. That should tell you something.

Put people like Rowling in power and they will erase transgender people from existence every way they can.

#25 | Posted by rcade at 2024-04-02 09:09 AM | Reply

"go back to the definition of "woman" that we had up until the last decade or so"

What was that definition, what's the new one, and who changed it?

#27 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-04-02 11:52 AM | Reply

Regarding some deleted comments, if Rowling posted here she'd be banned for anti-transgender bigotry.

We're not hosting discussions of people who agree with her.

#28 | Posted by rcade at 2024-04-02 01:09 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

TRUTHY @ #6
LOL ~ Have you ever considered taking up writing? There's a book in that thar post somewhere.

#22 | POSTED BY TWINPAC

Unfortunately, Rcade chose to delete it, so it is lost to the universe. Ce La Vie! In many cases, art should be of the moment.

#29 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-04-02 01:21 PM | Reply

Your comment reminded me of the days when Deleted Comments had their own page and users competed to get the most vivid insults on there. It was nice writing and absolutely savage.

#30 | Posted by rcade at 2024-04-02 01:22 PM | Reply

www.youtube.com

www.youtube.com

A couple of essays by a brilliant trans woman-Natalie Wynn (ContraPoints). She presents an objective, fair and very entertaining discussion on JK Rowling, from a trans person perspective.

If you are interested in enlightening yourself, feel free to give her channel a try. You won't be disappointed.

#31 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-04-02 01:25 PM | Reply

Why thank you rcade, I was in a mood last night :O)

#32 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-04-02 01:26 PM | Reply

We're not hosting discussions of people who agree with her.
#28 | POSTED BY RCADE

Censorship!!!

#33 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-04-02 01:36 PM | Reply

"A couple of essays by a brilliant trans woman-Natalie Wynn (ContraPoints)."

I just watched a video where she spent almost 90 minutes talking about Rowlings' tweets, which are basically talking about other people's tweets. If you want to critique someone for making disingenuous, straw-man arguments, it might carry more weight if you weren't doing the same thing to their comments in the same breath.

I will agree with one point - JK Rowling does seem to be addicted to playing the victim, but so are those who claim to be offended by her tweets.

#34 | Posted by sentinel at 2024-04-02 01:55 PM | Reply

"claim to be offended by her tweets."

"claims"

The whole issue here boils down to not believing people.

As demonstrated when you said you don't believe the people who "claim" to be offended. You do not accept the veracity of the claim.

#36 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-04-02 02:03 PM | Reply

Unfortunately, Rcade chose to delete it, so it is lost to the universe. Ce La Vie! In many cases, art should be of the moment.
#29 | Posted by truthhurts

Copy/pasted to the Nooner for anyone who want to gaze upon its majesty.

#37 | Posted by censored at 2024-04-02 02:10 PM | Reply

"As demonstrated when you said you don't believe the people who "claim" to be offended. You do not accept the veracity of the claim."

Your alias just demonstrated a perfect example of the type of straw-man argument I was talking about. You put imaginary scare quotes around the word so you could disingenuously read something into it that's not there.

#38 | Posted by sentinel at 2024-04-02 02:11 PM | Reply

I will agree with one point - JK Rowling does seem to be addicted to playing the victim, but so are those who claim to be offended by her tweets.

Rowling's hate doesn't cause people to pretend to be offended. It offends them. Rhetoric like hers causes violence against transgender women.

Taking a both-sides position on this demonstrates that you are out of touch with what's going on. Maybe you don't know any transgender people, so powerful people like Rowling fomenting hatred against them doesn't matter to you.

#39 | Posted by rcade at 2024-04-02 02:27 PM | Reply

Scotland can do whatever they want....but we're going to have a robust debate on this issue here in the USA.

www.msn.com

www.cnn.com

I'm not going to be offended on behalf of women. They can speak for themselves. I don't want to offend anybody, including Transgender people and women who oppose policies on transgenders' participation in sports.....

#40 | Posted by eberly at 2024-04-02 02:34 PM | Reply

#41 Can't wait to see your next new username!

#42 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-04-02 02:37 PM | Reply

#41 | POSTED BY CENSORED A

You are aware that the boe policy regarding gender use of bathrooms was not in effect, right? That that assault was actually contrary to policy and thus not an indicator of anything related to gender identity. You understand that right? Or does every crime perpetrated by every transgender person get to be used to justify discrimination against them?

Just asking for all of the cis rapists out there.

#43 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-04-02 02:39 PM | Reply

You put imaginary scare quotes around the word so you could disingenuously read something into it that's not there.
#38 | POSTED BY SENTINEL

I'm reading what is there.

If you believed they are truly offended, you would say "people who are offended."

Instead you said "people who claim to be offended." As though the claim might be disputed.

If you introduce someone as the King of Sweden, and introduce someone else as someone who claims to be the King of Sweden, the distinction between those two is clear.

Later, also said they are addicted to being outraged. Which is another way of saying they're not truly offended, they are addicts who are under some kind of influence.

You're a weasel and you always have been.

#44 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-04-02 02:43 PM | Reply

You are aware that [...] 43 | Posted by truthhurts

Thank you for explaining that, I was unaware.

You seem to know more about this than I do. Unfortunately, I'm reluctant to inquire and discuss this with you further, as, well ... that's the way chilling effects operate.

#45 | Posted by censored at 2024-04-02 02:44 PM | Reply

The victim's father, Scott Smith, was arrested during a school board meeting in June before he could describe what had happened to his daughter."

www.youtube.com

www.loudounnow.com

Just saying he did do the crimes.

A black man probably would have been tasered or shot

#46 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-04-02 02:46 PM | Reply

"Loudoun County Public Schools responded Wednesday to a bombshell report that it covered up a sexual assault perpetrated by a 'gender fluid' male student in the girls' bathroom."

Unless there were physical barriers to entry on the girls bathroom to deny access to those who shouldn't be there, and the policy removed those barriers, the policy change did nothing to limit anyone's access to the girls bathroom.

You've never advocated for access control mechanisms. It shows you don't have any real concerns about safety in the girls room.

#47 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-04-02 02:47 PM | Reply

"A couple of essays by a brilliant trans woman-Natalie Wynn (ContraPoints)."
I just watched a video where she spent almost 90 minutes talking about Rowlings' tweets, which are basically talking about other people's tweets. If you want to critique someone for making disingenuous, straw-man arguments, it might carry more weight if you weren't doing the same thing to their comments in the same breath.
I will agree with one point - JK Rowling does seem to be addicted to playing the victim, but so are those who claim to be offended by her tweets.

#34 | POSTED BY SENTINEL

IF you watch an entire video of Natalie's discussing Rowling and all you took from it was "... talking about Rowlings' tweets, which are basically talking about other people's tweets" then you clearly didn't understand what she was discussing.

oh well not everyone can actually learn stuff.

#48 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-04-02 02:54 PM | Reply

-Rowling's hate doesn't cause people to pretend to be offended.

That's true. Look at this place for the best examples of people who pretend to be offended every day here...and it's nobody else's fault but their own.

#49 | Posted by eberly at 2024-04-02 02:54 PM | Reply

Unfortunately, Rcade chose to delete it, so it is lost to the universe. Ce La Vie! In many cases, art should be of the moment.
#29 | Posted by truthhurts
Copy/pasted to the Nooner for anyone who want to gaze upon its majesty.

#37 | POSTED BY CENSORED

Should I be concerned that you are copying my posts and apparently saving them? I mean it appears you copied and saved it so it could be posted to the nooner.

Nah, not concerned one bit as I don't have a problem standing behind anything I wrote.

#50 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-04-02 02:55 PM | Reply

You are aware that [...] 43 | Posted by truthhurts
Thank you for explaining that, I was unaware.
You seem to know more about this than I do. Unfortunately, I'm reluctant to inquire and discuss this with you further, as, well ... that's the way chilling effects operate.

#45 | POSTED BY CENSORED

So, you posted an aggressively confrontational comment without understanding the issue?

Well, at least you are man enough to admit you were wrong, well done.

What chilling effects are those?

#51 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-04-02 02:57 PM | Reply

Trans women aren't men.

Men have incredibly fragile egos and wouldn't be able to endure what trans women go through.

#52 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-04-02 03:00 PM | Reply

"people who pretend to be offended every day"

You pretended to be offended USA is #1 in LNG exports, for example.

#53 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-04-02 03:03 PM | Reply

"So, you posted an aggressively confrontational comment without understanding the issue?"

You haven't figured out that's his shtick?

These Deplorables do not have a very deep playbook. They don't need one.

#54 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-04-02 03:06 PM | Reply

Look at this place for the best examples of people who pretend to be offended every day here...and it's nobody else's fault but their own.
#49 | POSTED BY EBERLY

I hope you're including yourself.

Your meltdown yesterday was delightful.

#55 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-04-02 03:09 PM | Reply

"Your putting a mirror in my face yesterday was delightful."

FT

and yes, it was delightful.....for me.

#56 | Posted by eberly at 2024-04-02 03:13 PM | Reply

I do enjoy playing devil's advocate.....but that's not pretending to be offended.

But I love the tears......always tastes great.

#57 | Posted by eberly at 2024-04-02 03:14 PM | Reply

I'm glad we both had a good time.

Thanks for all the hard work you put in.

You flamed out spectacularly.

#58 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-04-02 03:15 PM | Reply

I do enjoy playing devil's advocate.....
#57 | POSTED BY EBERLY

What you really enjoy is eating BellRinger's shht.

You're quite adept at it.

#59 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-04-02 03:16 PM | Reply

Devil's advocate
One who argues against a cause or position, not as a committed opponent but simply for the sake of argument or to determine the validity of the cause or position.

Maybe you should give genuine advocacy a try someday. Of course, you'd have to have beliefs, and I couldn't find any of yours in the Republican Party Platform.

Hopefully you have better luck finding what you believe in there.

#60 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-04-02 03:21 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Should I be concerned that you are copying my posts and apparently saving them? I mean it appears you copied and saved it so it could be posted to the nooner. Nah, not concerned one bit as I don't have a problem standing behind anything I wrote. #50 | Posted by truthhurts
Lol! No. I'm not saving people's comments. I'm pleased to say I have slightly better things to do with my time (but not by much). It's the Internet. Everything lasts forever, without any involvement from me. Just posted it because I wanted to help anyone suffering from FOMO.

So, you posted an aggressively confrontational comment without understanding the issue?
I didn't think I was being aggressive. But, yes, I post stuff and then discuss. This is a discussion board and I actually have learned a thing or two from those conversations and the perspectives that others share. That's one of the reasons that I also try, but don't always manage, to avoid ad hominems (except for certain folks who have earned it).

Well, at least you are man enough to admit you were wrong, well done.
I'll take that at face value and thank you for the compliment.

What chilling effects are those? #51 | Posted by truthhurts
Nope! Pretty sure I'm on rcade's last nerve so I'm gonna leave that alone.

I value the forum that rcade provides, as I'm sure it's a lot of work. The least I can do is try to not cause him anxiety/anger/grief by my presence. Since this is a subject that he is particularly sensitive to, I'm going to try to steer clear of this topic in the future.

#61 | Posted by censored at 2024-04-02 03:31 PM | Reply

I'm surprised Censored hasn't posted an article about what percent of Palestinians hate trans people.

He's slipping.

#62 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-04-02 03:36 PM | Reply

She believes in science!

#63 | Posted by MSgt at 2024-04-02 05:03 PM | Reply

You've never advocated for access control mechanisms. It shows you don't have any real concerns about safety in the girls room.
#47 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

Access control mechanisms are racist and xenophobic.

#64 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-04-02 05:32 PM | Reply

One who argues against a cause or position, not as a committed opponent but simply for the sake of argument or to determine the validity of the cause or position.
- snoofy

Isn't that all this place is?

None of you actually care about these topics, otherwise you wouldn't be posting on some obscure website.

The Drudge is nothing more than a struggle session of the game "now I got you, you son of a bitch".

#65 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-04-02 05:35 PM | Reply

For reference
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#66 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-04-02 05:36 PM | Reply

"If you believed they are truly offended"

So now your alias is distinguishing between offended and "truly" offended. Interesting how your alias introduced that into this thread.

When it comes to the Internet, and especially statements on social media, you can never be certain to what extent people are who or what they claim to be. J.K. Rowling claims to be offended by equating transgendered women with biological women. Some people may doubt the validity of that claim or assign other motives to it, but simply stating that someone claims to be offended does not necessarily cast the aspersions your alias claims it does, whether we're talking about Rowling or people who are making 2-hour videos of her and mope during the last 15 minutes about how they wish they didn't have to talk about and react to her so much.

#67 | Posted by sentinel at 2024-04-02 05:37 PM | Reply

Speaking the truth is not "hate speech."

#68 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-04-02 06:59 PM | Reply

Speaking out for women's rights is not hate speech.

#69 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-04-02 07:02 PM | Reply

She believes in science!

#63 | POSTED BY MSGT

What science is that?

www.google.com

#70 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-04-02 07:16 PM | Reply

Speaking the truth is not "hate speech."

#68 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

It's not the truth.

#71 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-04-02 07:17 PM | Reply

Speaking out for women's rights is not hate speech.

#69 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER AT

There is never a defense made for men's rights when it comes to trans people. I wonder why that is?

#72 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-04-02 07:18 PM | Reply

There is never a defense made for men's rights by feminists. I wonder why that is.

#73 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-04-02 07:20 PM | Reply

There is never a defense made for men's rights by feminists. I wonder why that is.

#73 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER AT 2024-04-02 07:20 PM | REPLY | FLAG

You Never Watched the Barbie Movie, Obviously.

I'm curious do you EVER get tired from being wrong?

#74 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-04-02 07:21 PM | Reply

Men's rights, care to name a few?

#75 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-04-02 07:22 PM | Reply

And do trans women qualify?

#76 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-04-02 07:23 PM | Reply

77

#77 | Posted by sentinel at 2024-04-02 07:24 PM | Reply

Men's rights, care to name a few?

#75 | POSTED BY SNOOFY AT 2024-04-02 07:22 PM | FLAG:
(CHOOSE)

And do trans women qualify?

#76 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

If that question was directed at me, I was referring to trans men being in men's spaces and competing in men's sports. You know, dick faces' bugaboo.

#78 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-04-02 07:25 PM | Reply

wsuathletics.com

Hey Dick Face, why are you not up in arms about this guy?

#79 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-04-02 07:26 PM | Reply

Anyone's free to take a whack at what "Men's Rights" means!

Rapists are getting visitations rights to their miracle babies.

What right remains unclaimed by men?

#80 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-04-02 07:28 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

What right remains unclaimed by men?

#80 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

To be able to dress and use the bathroom and shower in a men's room without being subjected to trans men.

#81 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-04-02 07:29 PM | Reply

Maybe Men's Rights means other people don't get them.

We used to do voting like that, for most of this country's history.

#82 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-04-02 07:33 PM | Reply

Dick face can't explain why men are not entitled to the same protection women are.

Dick face isn't too smart.

Dick face isn't too ethical.

Dick face is a trash person.

Dick face will run away and come back tomorrow to lie again.

Because dick face sucks.

#83 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-04-02 07:33 PM | Reply


Rapists are getting visitations rights to their miracle babies.

visitation rights is an oxymoron.

#84 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-04-02 07:38 PM | Reply

Dick face can't explain why men are not entitled to the same protection women are.

Men are expendable .. thats why.

#85 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-04-02 07:38 PM | Reply

Twoothy,

I'm reaching a point with you where I simply ignore you. Your stalking is creepy.

#86 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-04-02 07:43 PM | Reply

Oh perish the thought Richard Visage?

#87 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-04-02 07:59 PM | Reply

I'm just wondering why you can't defend your position

#88 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-04-02 08:01 PM | Reply

Pope ClownHut the first says, if BellRinger thinks transgender women are men, let him cut off his dick to prove it.

#89 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-04-02 08:07 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

There are no scissors small enough ...

#90 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-04-02 08:09 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

I have defended my position. You just don't like the answers you are being given.

#91 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-04-02 08:17 PM | Reply

If there was an actual "left wing" the hideous ---- who is the subject of this article would be horrified to ever leave their house again.

#92 | Posted by tres_flechas at 2024-04-02 08:30 PM | Reply

I have defended my position. You just don't like the answers you are being given.

#91 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER A

i have never seen you defend men/boys from the encroachment of transmen into their safe spaces/sports.

Why is that?

#93 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-04-02 08:35 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"visitation rights is an oxymoron."

Regardless, that's what he gets when the rapist is a non-custodial parent.

#94 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-04-02 08:39 PM | Reply

I wonder how blown out #91's sons' -------- have to be for her to be this hung up on any of this.........

#95 | Posted by tres_flechas at 2024-04-02 08:39 PM | Reply

Are we talking football shaped turds, #91?

Bowling balls??

#96 | Posted by tres_flechas at 2024-04-02 08:40 PM | Reply

Regardless, that's what he gets when the rapist is a non-custodial parent.

#94 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

But it's not a right.

#97 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-04-02 08:40 PM | Reply

I'm reaching a point with you where I simply ignore you. Your stalking is creepy.

#86 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

It's a Struggle Session.

Understand what it feels like, soon to be IRL.

#98 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-04-02 08:41 PM | Reply

What right remains unclaimed by men?
#80 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

Getting out of speeding tickets because you're a fabulous babe.

#99 | Posted by Dbt2 at 2024-04-02 08:44 PM | Reply | Funny: 2 | Newsworthy 1

"IF you watch an entire video of Natalie's discussing Rowling and all you took from it was "... talking about Rowlings' tweets, which are basically talking about other people's tweets" then you clearly didn't understand what she was discussing."

The video in question wasn't actually on her channel, but she was the guest who appeared in it for the whole video. I understood perfectly well what they were discussing. They called out Rowling's mental health for obsessing over random tweets that were specifically addressed to her and yet by the end Wynn was almost questioning her own for having memorized Rowling's tweets.

Oh, one thing I did learn about Natalie is that she seems she was fine with violence in the civil rights movement, including firebombing churches.

#100 | Posted by sentinel at 2024-04-02 08:45 PM | Reply

"i have never seen you defend men/boys from the encroachment of transmen into their safe spaces/sports.
Why is that?"

He might be one of people who identify as a vampire, but only in synch with the Moon.

#101 | Posted by sentinel at 2024-04-02 08:48 PM | Reply

HAT TIP: Republicans interested in protecting women's rights should know most American women are more concerned with abortion rights than they are with trans athletes. But then again, I don't think most Republicans are interested in protecting women's rights, so there's that.

Trump strategist Steve Bannon says Trump doesn't need to reach suburban women voters: It's a waste of time and money. Who says we need to reach them?

twitter.com

#102 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-04-02 09:02 PM | Reply

This whole thing has snowballed so much I can't claim to be fully up to speed on the twitter war going back and forth with Rowling and the Trans community, but it has definitely devolved.

Looking back to where it started though... I find it hard to call her hateful, at least at the time

"Dress however you please.
Call yourself whatever you like.
Sleep with any consenting adult who'll have you.
Live your best life in peace and security.
But force women out of their jobs for stating that sex is real? "

#103 | Posted by kwrx25 at 2024-04-03 08:57 AM | Reply

They called out Rowling's mental health for obsessing over random tweets ...

Rowling is so mean-spirited that she tries to get people fired for disagreeing with her on social media. She's a staggeringly rich person who wants some rando to lose their job.

#106 | Posted by rcade at 2024-04-03 01:27 PM | Reply

" i have never seen you defend men/boys from the encroachment of transmen into their safe spaces/sports.

Why is that?

#93 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS AT 2024-04-02 08:35 PM | FLAG: "

I haven't seen it reported. Trans men (females) have a massive disadvantage in sports if they are trying to participate in men's sports.

#107 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-04-03 01:30 PM | Reply

#106. Sounds like a lefty cancel culture warrior.

I try to be open minded - can you provide an example of her doing this?

#108 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-04-03 01:33 PM | Reply

"Trans men (females) have a massive disadvantage in sports if they are trying to participate in men's sports."

In that case, just think how humiliated a boy would be if he loses to a trans boy.

You're okay with that, or should we not allow trans anyone in anyone else's sports?

#109 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-04-03 01:39 PM | Reply

"who here believes that 100% of people who claim to be trans are actually trans?"

Do you mean according to their definition, or the definition in your made-up dictionary?

Here's a better question: How many folks pretend to be trans to get into the women's locker room for nefarious purposes, and how would putting up pretend barriers make any difference?

Put better, a ban does NOTHING for women's safety.

#111 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-04-03 01:44 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

[...]

Exactly.

You're pretending ANYTHING GREATER THAN ZERO proves your point.

#GotRepublianMath?

#112 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-04-03 01:46 PM | Reply

[...]

So...you're conceding there is LESS violence than cis folks, but feel that's still enough reason to condemn en masse?

That's partisan hack territory.

#114 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-04-03 01:47 PM | Reply

[...]

How so?
They put a lock on the door or something?

#115 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-04-03 01:49 PM | Reply

[...]

No it doesn't. Just like a gun ban doesn't assure there are no guns.

You're not suggesting physical barriers, just societal ones. The folks desiring harm aren't stopped by those pretend walls.

#116 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-04-03 01:49 PM | Reply

"This trans craze is eroding women's rights and the whole concept of womanhood"

And here I thought I'd never read anything that egregiously dumb.

If trans people erode your concept of womanhood...you didn't need the trans folks for that.

But back to your pretend barrier. Do you realize that will only stop folks with GOOD intentions? It means absolutely nothing to those looking to harm.

IOW, your "cure" doesn't address the problem you've created.

#118 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-04-03 01:54 PM | Reply

"I care about women"

Not once you're in the voting booth. In fact, you're just about to empower folks who want total control over a woman's health care options.

Your vote PROVES you don't care about women. At least not enough to vote in their obvious favor.

#119 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-04-03 01:56 PM | Reply

I haven't seen it reported. Trans men (females) have a massive disadvantage in sports if they are trying to participate in men's sports.

#107 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

So, IoW your whole position is poorly thought out. thanks

#120 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-04-03 02:04 PM | Reply

" eroding women's rights "

your party did that by destroying roe v wade.

and they get your tacit approval by your vote. leave trans people alone. women too, theyve already heard what you think of their "rights".

#121 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-04-03 02:04 PM | Reply

#110 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

Show of hands, who thinks this is a bigoted post?

Show of hands, who thinks Dick Face here, wants to enforce thought crimes?

#122 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-04-03 02:07 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#113 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

Why are you not at all concerned about female predator from gaining access to male spaces?

Could it be you're a bigoted -------?

#124 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-04-03 02:09 PM | Reply

#117 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

No, you don't, you OBVIOUSLY don't. You are a bigot who uses trans people to troll.

Social contagion! My god you are off the deep end.

#125 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-04-03 02:11 PM | Reply

"This trans craze is eroding women's rights and the whole concept of womanhood."

This gay marriage craze is eroding straight rights and the whole concept of marriage.

Same energy.

#126 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-04-03 02:17 PM | Reply

www.vera.org

Violence, Torture, and Isolation: What It's Like to Be Trans in Prison

Hey Dick Face, ---- YOU.

www.lexipol.com

March 31, 2022: NBC News reports there are 4,890 transgender people incarcerated in state prisons across the country, and that just 15 are housed in facilities that match their gender identity.

Dick Face, Seriously ---- YOU

#127 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-04-03 02:18 PM | Reply

"Show of hands - who here believes that 100% of people who claim to be trans are actually trans?"

If "trans" is a gender identity, then there's no way to verify it other than what the person claims. So yeah, by that definition, anybody who claims to be "trans" actually is in that moment.

#131 | Posted by sentinel at 2024-04-03 03:38 PM | Reply

You don't get to decide who is a transgender person and who isn't, Bellringer. The fact you think you can is ugly transphobic hate. Find another preoccupation.

#132 | Posted by rcade at 2024-04-03 03:42 PM | Reply

#117 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER AT 2024-04-03 01:50 PM | REPLY

You're so ridiculously stupid it's not even funny. You don't care about women. You just use cis women to bash We trans women and girls. If you truly cared about cis women you wouldn't be voting for the party that relegates them to second and third class status.

#133 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2024-04-03 03:46 PM | Reply

"This trans craze is eroding women's rights and the whole concept of womanhood"

I don't think it's gone that far nor is it going to get that far.

Simply put...I disagree with you.

I think there are some roads to cross with regards to women's athletics and competition involving transgenders but we should be supporting their rights rather than questioning their sincerity.

#134 | Posted by eberly at 2024-04-03 03:53 PM | Reply

That's a noble take Rcade and yet incredibly horrible for people with mental health problems.

In your zeal to virtue signal how accepting you are, you blow right past the fact that there can certainly be people misdiagnosing themselves and missing out on the proper care they need.

Since in your mind the moment someone says they are trans they are trans, how are we supposed to diagnose and help the people that might be reaching that conclusion incorrectly?

#135 | Posted by kwrx25 at 2024-04-03 03:56 PM | Reply

-Find another preoccupation.

COVID?

:-)

#136 | Posted by eberly at 2024-04-03 03:56 PM | Reply

"You don't get to decide who is a transgender person and who isn't, Bellringer. The fact you think you can is ugly transphobic hate."

Serious question: are there any circumstances where you'd ever call BS on a "cis" person claiming to be "trans", and if so, what are they?

#137 | Posted by sentinel at 2024-04-03 04:03 PM | Reply

Serious question: are there any circumstances where you'd ever call BS on a "cis" person claiming to be "trans", and if so, what are they?
#137 | POSTED BY SENTINEL

Like if you did it, sure.

#138 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-04-03 04:07 PM | Reply

Since in your mind the moment someone says they are trans they are trans, how are we supposed to diagnose and help the people that might be reaching that conclusion incorrectly?

You and Robert Galbraith aren't supposed to diagnose anybody. You are supposed to let transgender people pursue their happiness and not make their lives harder with intolerance and an inappropriate level of interest in their anatomy.

#139 | Posted by rcade at 2024-04-03 04:14 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Serious question: are there any circumstances where you'd ever call BS on a "cis" person claiming to be "trans", and if so, what are they?

#137 | POSTED BY SENTINEL

Unlike Republicans - who claim they're all about "personal freedom" - Democrats are "live and let live" when it comes to personal choices others make about their own bodies and how they identify themselves.

#140 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2024-04-03 04:17 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

In your zeal to virtue signal ...

Accusing other people of virtue signaling is a sign you don't understand that when decent people are tolerant it's not a performance. It is just evidence of their decency.

I can remember way back when the idea of transgender people made me uncomfortable. Did I use this feeling as an excuse to be as fixated and negative as Bellringer? No. It didn't affect me that people were living their lives in a way that was unaccustomed to me. I adjusted.

And now I know some transgender people. They are good and decent and loving and I am glad to know them. Meanwhile Rowling will have all the riches a person could dream of and will die twisted, bitter and impoverished of spirit.

#141 | Posted by rcade at 2024-04-03 04:18 PM | Reply

Is it me or has RCADE changed his posts several times?

#142 | Posted by eberly at 2024-04-03 04:22 PM | Reply

Everyone killed in a mass shooting is a Crisis Actor.

Everyone who stands up for human rights is Virtue Signaling.

This is why you --------- are Deplorable.

#143 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-04-03 04:23 PM | Reply

Since in your mind the moment someone says they are trans they are trans, how are we supposed to diagnose and help the people that might be reaching that conclusion incorrectly?

#135 | POSTED BY KWRX25

The unmitigated arrogance of this statement is mind blowing.

You know who does the diagnosing? The person's doctors. Not you, not Ron DeSantis, not faux christians, not hateful bigots.

The unmitigated arrogance is only matched by the unspeakable ignorance of the struggles that a trans or non-binary person deals with and no there is no contagion of trans ideology passing through the youth. Frankly to assume that is insulting.

#144 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-04-03 04:24 PM | Reply

Why can't you all post more like Twoothy.....with the "dick face" and "---- you"?

much more entertaining........

#145 | Posted by eberly at 2024-04-03 04:24 PM | Reply

Why did my 142 get deleted? Frankly I can't even remember what I posted! LOL

#146 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-04-03 04:25 PM | Reply

"Why did my 142 get deleted? Frankly I can't even remember what I posted! LOL"

A bunch of nonsense, as usual.

#147 | Posted by sentinel at 2024-04-03 04:26 PM | Reply

"I can't even remember what I posted"

No doubt, it was a post that was filled with rage and profanity....and literally nothing else.

#148 | Posted by eberly at 2024-04-03 04:28 PM | Reply

"Meanwhile Rowling will have all the riches a person could dream of and will die twisted, bitter and impoverished of spirit."

Meanwhile.....we aren't diagnosing anybody.....

#149 | Posted by eberly at 2024-04-03 04:30 PM | Reply

Nonsense!!! I am sure it is profound and could have change the fates of many a wayward gent or lady

#150 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-04-03 04:31 PM | Reply

"Serious question: are there any circumstances where you'd ever call BS on a "cis" person claiming to be "trans", and if so, what are they?"
#137 | POSTED BY SENTINEL

"Unlike Republicans - who claim they're all about "personal freedom" - Democrats are "live and let live" when it comes to personal choices others make about their own bodies and how they identify themselves."
#140 | POSTED BY AMERICANUNITY

Well, okay then, I'll take that as an unequivocal no, at least from you anyway. It's a total free-for-all now when it comes to gendered spaces. I always suspected that was the case ever since the Obama admin handed its "transgender guidelines" and nobody would answer that question whenever I raised it.

#151 | Posted by sentinel at 2024-04-03 04:37 PM | Reply

Why did my 142 get deleted? Frankly I can't even remember what I posted! LOL

It was probably a reply to something that got deleted, making it out of context.

#152 | Posted by rcade at 2024-04-03 04:43 PM | Reply

Meanwhile.....we aren't diagnosing anybody.....

Nothing in what you quoted is a diagnosis.

#153 | Posted by rcade at 2024-04-03 04:43 PM | Reply

#145 | Posted by eberly

Have you ever considered posting something other than your opinions on what other people write?

It would be a welcome and refreshing change. Just sayin' ...

#154 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2024-04-03 04:43 PM | Reply

154

Isn't that exactly what you just did?

But.....I'll accept your point regardless.

"Nothing in what you quoted is a diagnosis."

It's obvious nobody is worried about BellringerDDS diagnosing anybody.

The accusations however are the issue and I agree they are unfounded and unwarranted.

#155 | Posted by eberly at 2024-04-03 04:49 PM | Reply

#145 | Posted by eberly

I did, but I only do it every once in awhile ... :-)

#156 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2024-04-03 04:52 PM | Reply

Oops

Responding to #155

#157 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2024-04-03 04:53 PM | Reply

#141 Rcade

I know trans people as well, like them very much, do some web work on their drag show. I also know a teen girl who was sexually assualted and her and she very understandably so has not been doing well. She now says she is a boy. #145 Eberly, She went to a doctor who on their 2nd time seeing her agreed that she was suffering dysphoria. Her mom went to the third appointment and brought up her trauma which was news to the doctor. Regardless of this, the Doctor prescribed her testosterone.

So spare me the -------- that she is the only one and that the medical system is treating the people as anything other than a cash cow Eberly.

#158 | Posted by kwrx25 at 2024-04-03 04:59 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

SENTINEL

I'm just of the mindset it isn't my place to gripe about what others do with their own bodies or how they identify themselves ...

It's gotten to the point now where castigating people over their personal choices is leading to suicides.

#159 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2024-04-03 05:01 PM | Reply

Well, okay then, I'll take that as an unequivocal no, at least from you anyway. It's a total free-for-all now when it comes to gendered spaces. I always suspected that was the case ever since the Obama admin handed its "transgender guidelines" and nobody would answer that question whenever I raised it.

#151 | POSTED BY SENTINEL

Who decides if someone is cis?

Who decides if someone is binary?

Who decides if someone is gay?

Who decides if someone is bisexual?

Who decides if someone is heterosexual?

Who decides if someone has ADHD?

Who decides if someone has depression?

Who decides if someone is bipolar?

Who decides if what YOU think matters in someone else's life?

#160 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-04-03 05:06 PM | Reply

158

I have no doubts people will misrepresent themselves and their symptoms and issues to doctors who in turn misdiagnose them for "business" reasons.

But are you in a position to say she isn't suffering dysphoria just because she didn't disclose the sexual assault?

#161 | Posted by eberly at 2024-04-03 05:07 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I also know a teen girl who was sexually assaulted and her and she very understandably so has not been doing well. She now says she is a boy. #145 Eberly, She went to a doctor who on their 2nd time seeing her agreed that she was suffering dysphoria. Her mom went to the third appointment and brought up her trauma which was news to the doctor. Regardless of this, the Doctor prescribed her testosterone.

It sounds like you're hearing from a mom who is strongly resisting the possibility her child is transgender.

Calling the child a "girl" and "she" suggests you are resisting it too.

Outside opinions from the mom (and you) matter a lot less than what the child and their doctors believe.

#162 | Posted by rcade at 2024-04-03 05:20 PM | Reply

Rowling just keeps digging a hole for herself.

#163 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-04-03 05:29 PM | Reply

"Who?
Who
Who
Who
Who
Who
Who
Who
Who?"

#160 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS

Who let the owls out?

And more importantly, how are any of those questions relevant to what you were responding to? You either agree it's an open free-for-all or you don't.

#164 | Posted by sentinel at 2024-04-03 05:29 PM | Reply

I know trans people as well, like them very much, do some web work on their drag show. I also know a teen girl who was sexually assualted and her and she very understandably so has not been doing well. She now says she is a boy. #145 Eberly, She went to a doctor who on their 2nd time seeing her agreed that she was suffering dysphoria. Her mom went to the third appointment and brought up her trauma which was news to the doctor. Regardless of this, the Doctor prescribed her testosterone.
So spare me the -------- that she is the only one and that the medical system is treating the people as anything other than a cash cow Eberly.
#158 | POSTED BY KWRX25

If your story is true, that falls under malpractice. I doubt you have all the facts, perhaps Laura could pipe in on how quickly drugs are added to a child's gender conforming therapy.

#165 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-04-03 06:47 PM | Reply

And more importantly, how are any of those questions relevant to what you were responding to? You either agree it's an open free-for-all or you don't.

#164 | POSTED BY SENTINEL

You should explain why it matters vis a vis trans but not those groups.

#166 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-04-03 06:48 PM | Reply

" Nothing in what you quoted is a diagnosis.

#153 | POSTED BY RCADE AT 2024-04-03 04:43 PM | FLAG: "

You're claiming she's going to die angry and bitter when all she's doing is standing up for women's rights. That's a diagnosis. [...]

#167 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-04-03 06:58 PM | Reply

#167 | Posted by BellRinger

What "women's rights" are trans taking away from them? Please list and provide credible citations.

#168 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2024-04-03 07:02 PM | Reply

This is what I'm seeing play out - all a male has to do is claim to be trans (regardless of whether that's actually the case) and then said male is allowed unfettered access to women's safe spaces and women's sports. [...]

#169 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-04-03 07:10 PM | Reply

then said male is allowed unfettered access to women's safe spaces and women's sports.

And that is why today, I'm announcing my intention to become The Women's Boxing Heavyweight Champion of the World. I'm doing it to promote diversity, equity and inclusion...and for the easy $$$. Thank you.

#171 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2024-04-03 07:22 PM | Reply

BellRinger is the champion of women's rights.

He proves it by voting for republicans who have sworn to strip women of their rights.

#172 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-04-03 07:25 PM | Reply

#170 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

Women's sports no longer exist?

What exactly are "safe spaces" and how did they keep women safe?

#173 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-04-03 07:29 PM | Reply

You're claiming she's going to die angry and bitter when all she's doing is standing up for women's rights. That's a diagnosis.

You need to learn the difference between literal and figurative.

#174 | Posted by rcade at 2024-04-03 07:56 PM | Reply

I am not going to go so far as to agree with Bellringer but I should have the right to use the women's locker room without seeing a penis. I dont walk freely naked around the locker room but some people do. I know the likelihood that I would run across a transgendered female naked in the locker room is slim but it is clearly not "none". My daughters are still embarrassed about 'this one time' they saw a very large naked woman walking through the locker room after she used the sauna in said naked state. They had used the gym pool with me and we were changing to head home. If that incident had been a "woman" with a penis I would have been very upset. Laugh about "safe spaces" all you want but this is becoming an issue and I dont know what the right answer is.

#175 | Posted by justagirl_idaho at 2024-04-03 07:57 PM | Reply

... all a male has to do is claim to be trans (regardless of whether that's actually the case) and then said male is allowed unfettered access to women's safe spaces and women's sports.

This is utter BS. You must have never read anything a sport's governing body deciding the rules to determine whether a transgender athlete can compete.

You and the rest of the transphobes talk about women's sports all the time without managing to learn a damn thing about them.

#176 | Posted by rcade at 2024-04-03 07:59 PM | Reply

Laugh about "safe spaces" all you want but this is becoming an issue and I dont know what the right answer is.

Since you said that seeing a large naked woman who wasn't transgender bothered your daughters at a locker room, the answer for y'all is obviously to avoid locker rooms.

When my kids were minors I didn't take them into the YMCA locker room where I knew people might be naked sometimes as they went to the showers or dressed. Because of the occasional nudity I treated it as an adult space and kept them out.

The "issue" of seeing a transgender person naked in a locker room is ridiculously overhyped. How many people have even encountered a transgender person clothed in their gym's locker room? Or have gone into a locker room with showers at all in the past decade?

#179 | Posted by rcade at 2024-04-03 08:08 PM | Reply

Bellringer: I've already said I am not hosting transphobic hate here. I think it's tragic what people like you are inflicting on transgender people on a daily basis in America. How many do you need to drive to suicide before you recognize the harm in what you're doing?

#180 | Posted by rcade at 2024-04-03 08:09 PM | Reply

This is utter BS.
You must have never read anything a sport's governing body deciding the rules to determine whether a transgender athlete can compete.
- RCade

Have you?

The student and/or parents shall contact the school administrator or athletic director
indicating that the student has a consistent gender identity different than the gender listed on the student's
school registration records, and that the student desires to participate in activities in a manner consistent with
his/her gender identity.
static1.squarespace.com

There are appeals .. but simple enough.

#182 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-04-03 08:17 PM | Reply

How do you expect to persuade me to see your POV when you just delete any remotely contrary post?

If you just reflexively nuke my posts in a 1-sided manner why in the world would I give credence to anything you say? Respect isn't given. It's earned. You are obviously passionate about this topic and I'd very much like to discuss it with you in a civil manner. That involves a back and forth - a give and a take.

If it's going to be completely 1-sided I will just walk away from it - unpersuaded and if anything more entrenched.

#183 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-04-03 08:20 PM | Reply

Have you?

Yes, because I care about women's sports and watch them often. I've read a lot about how different governing bodies deal with the issue and reach their determination of who can compete.

Your PDF isn't even from a sport's governing body. It is a worthless addition to the discussion.

#184 | Posted by rcade at 2024-04-03 08:21 PM | Reply

I will start caring about whether you respect my position when you show respect for the dignity and rights of transgender people and reject the transphobia of people like J.K. Rowling.

Here in Florida a transgender student in their dorm has to use the wrong gender bathroom or they get punished. A transgender staff member has to do the same or they lose their job.

Every year DeSantis and other Republican bigots come up with a new way to make the lives of transgender people harder. Every year.

Instead of caring about any of that, you want to complain that an amateur sport you never cared about a minute of your life allowed a transgender person to compete.

#185 | Posted by rcade at 2024-04-03 08:27 PM | Reply

"Here in Florida a transgender student in their dorm has to use the wrong gender bathroom or they get punished. A transgender staff member has to do the same or they lose their job."

Pretty sure they support that...

But are the boys horny enough to rape the transfem in their locker rooms, since apparently thats what biological males do in locker rooms, they rape.

#186 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-04-03 08:30 PM | Reply

It's weird that the naked human body offends people so much.

Talk about religious brainwashing.

Talk about grooming.

JustAGirl, I'm sorry your daughters had a weird experience.

But that's learned behavior.

We're the only animal in the animal kingdom to cover up our natural forms.

#187 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-04-03 08:38 PM | Reply

apparently thats what biological males do in locker rooms, they rape.

As a homosexual man who uses men's restrooms and locker rooms.

I have never felt the urge to rape. Ever.

Weird how heterosexual men are so compelled to rape. Always.

#188 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-04-03 08:45 PM | Reply

" I've read a lot about how different governing bodies deal with the issue and reach their determination of who can compete"

No amount of testosterone blockers can equalize the physical advantages males have over females. This is Biology101.

#189 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-04-03 08:51 PM | Reply

" I will start caring about whether you respect my position when you show respect for the dignity and rights of transgender people and reject the transphobia of people like J.K. Rowling"

I have yet to see transphobia from JK Rowling so perhaps any further discussion this issue between you and I is a waste of time ... .

#190 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-04-03 08:53 PM | Reply

I have yet to see transphobia from JK Rowling so perhaps any further discussion this issue between you and I is a waste of time ... .

Don't tell people you are open to being persuaded against transphobia. It is a lie.

#192 | Posted by rcade at 2024-04-03 08:57 PM | Reply

what happens to a female who has a locker room invaded (for lack of a better word) by a male

Impossible.

She's in a woman's locker room.

Heterosexual men can't enter.

(Sounds ridiculous. But. That's your whole argument. Stupid, right? I'm sure it won't stop you from repeating it.)

#193 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-04-03 08:59 PM | Reply

" Instead of caring about any of that, you want to complain that an amateur sport you never cared about a minute of your life allowed a transgender person to compete.

#185 | POSTED BY RCADE AT 2024-04-03 08:27 PM | FLAG: ".

I actually enjoy watching women's volleyball (especially beach volleyball), soccer and tennis. [...]

#194 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-04-03 08:59 PM | Reply

No amount of testosterone blockers can equalize the physical advantages males have over females

You're a doctor now?

Got years of research to prove this statement?

No?

Didn't think so.

#195 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-04-03 09:00 PM | Reply

I actually enjoy watching women's volleyball (especially beach volleyball), soccer and tennis.

So it's more about sex appeal.

At least you're starting to be honest.

#197 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-04-03 09:02 PM | Reply

#196 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

You claim not to support Trump either.

Just add that to the list of BellRinger's lies.

#198 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-04-03 09:03 PM | Reply

" So it's more about sex appeal.

At least you're starting to be honest.
#197 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK AT 2024-04-03 09:02 PM | FLAG: "

Beach volleyball has sex appeal. No doubt. But what I like about women' volleyball and tennis in general is longer volleys - more strategic volleys. Men's volleyball and tennis is so power- oriented ... too many ace serves and a lack of finesse. With women's soccer it seems like the defense is more aggressive making it a faster paced game.

#199 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-04-03 09:08 PM | Reply

But what I like about women' volleyball

Without using google. Name a few teams and their players names.

I know a lot of guys who loves women's volleyball.

The sport has nothing to do with it.

#200 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-04-03 09:10 PM | Reply

Flo Hyman

#201 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-04-03 09:12 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

And my favorite name - Destiny Hooker.

#202 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-04-03 09:12 PM | Reply

Weird how heterosexual men are so compelled to rape. Always.
#188 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK

Yep.

They'll go so far as to pretend to be a woman, so they can enter the women's locker room.

Because they couldn't just walk right in there normally.

What's that you say, Trump did exactly that, walk into the women's locker room at the Miss Teen USA pageant

...

#203 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-04-03 09:15 PM | Reply

Men's volleyball and tennis is so power- oriented

Making it more important than ever to keep trans people out of women's tennis and volleyball, right?

#204 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-04-03 09:17 PM | Reply

RCade,

The PDF is from the California interscholastic federation.
www.cifstate.org

So I ask again what's the hurdle?

#205 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-04-03 09:44 PM | Reply

"Or have gone into a locker room with showers at all in the past decade?"

I have. At least two different places, which both had communal showers. One of the places had separate locker rooms for minors, and the other place had a "family" locker room in between the male and female one.

#206 | Posted by sentinel at 2024-04-03 09:46 PM | Reply

The WTA allows transgender women to compete if they have testosterone of 5 nmol/L1 or less continuously for at least 12 months, with provisions to require it longer on a case-by-case basis, and they must commit to never going above that level.

There are no transgender women playing in the WTA, which demonstrates that fear of an unfair competitive situation in this sport caused by transgender women is groundless.

This is the case for most women's sports. When hatemongers make a big deal of a transgender woman athlete, it is almost always at an extremely obscure lower level of the sport -- like when some people ---- bricks because a 27-year-old transgender woman was allowed to compete in a minor recreational league tournament in Wyoming with no cash prizes.

She got so much hate generated by the right-wing media that she dropped out to prevent the event from being cancelled.

I bet some people here slept a little easier that night knowing hate won.

#207 | Posted by rcade at 2024-04-03 09:51 PM | Reply

I have. At least two different places, which both had communal showers.

Communal showers at gyms are already weird enough that I wouldn't have let my kids go there even if Ron DeSantis got his wish and transgender people didn't exist.

In middle school I had to use them with my middle school basketball team. It was awkward as hell.

#208 | Posted by rcade at 2024-04-03 09:55 PM | Reply

The reality is that it's still the norm in many places, and places would go out of business if they were forced to "upgrade" them to give everyone a private suite.

#209 | Posted by sentinel at 2024-04-03 10:05 PM | Reply

"Communal showers"

With Jake Busey.

I'm doing my part!

#210 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-04-03 10:06 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

#165... "I doubt you have all the facts"

Our families have vacationed together since our kids were in kindergarten age town soccer together, my kids and the other families kids have been friends and are all in the same friend group.

We get toghether about 2-3 a month for dinner and to catch up. We've discussed EVERYTHING she has gone through as it transpired. I knew this girl as a young boy crazed pre-teen. Through first crushes etc. I saw her change on dime immediately after she was assaulted.

Don't tell me I don't know all the facts. [...]

#211 | Posted by kwrx25 at 2024-04-03 10:22 PM | Reply

You don't have all the facts and you never will, because you are not inside the brain of that child.

Suffering trauma doesn't automatically mean that someone identifies as transgender because of trauma. You are reaching the conclusion you want to reach, not listening to what the child is saying about themselves.

There are a lot of parents supporting and affirming the identity of their transgender child who started out believing with every fiber of their being that the child couldn't possibly be transgender.

Just like you. Just like that mom. Maybe the child's parents should be talking to the parents of other transgender children instead of fighting against their child identifying as transgender and getting reinforced in their opposition by longtime friends.

#212 | Posted by rcade at 2024-04-03 10:29 PM | Reply

" Nothing in what you quoted is a diagnosis.
#153 | POSTED BY RCADE AT 2024-04-03 04:43 PM | FLAG: "
You're claiming she's going to die angry and bitter when all she's doing is standing up for women's rights. That's a diagnosis. [...]

#167 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

No it's not dick face

#213 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-04-03 10:49 PM | Reply

This is what I'm seeing play out - all a male has to do is claim to be trans (regardless of whether that's actually the case) and then said male is allowed unfettered access to women's safe spaces and women's sports. [...]

#169 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

What you are seeing is a delusional fever dream.

#214 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-04-03 10:50 PM | Reply

This is what I'm seeing play out - all a male has to do is claim to be trans (regardless of whether that's actually the case) and then said male is allowed unfettered access to women's safe spaces and women's sports. [...]

#169 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

What about the people YOU consider women going into men's spaces? Won't they be unsafe? Don't you care about THOSE women-your defintion?

#215 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-04-03 10:51 PM | Reply

I am not going to go so far as to agree with Bellringer but I should have the right to use the women's locker room without seeing a penis. I dont walk freely naked around the locker room but some people do. I know the likelihood that I would run across a transgendered female naked in the locker room is slim but it is clearly not "none". My daughters are still embarrassed about 'this one time' they saw a very large naked woman walking through the locker room after she used the sauna in said naked state. They had used the gym pool with me and we were changing to head home. If that incident had been a "woman" with a penis I would have been very upset. Laugh about "safe spaces" all you want but this is becoming an issue and I dont know what the right answer is.

#175 | POSTED BY JUSTAGIRL_IDAHO

I agree with you justagirl. I believe EVERYONE is entitled to use a bathroom or lockerroom in complete privacy and freedom. NO ONE should be exposed to anyone else naked either walking around showering or dressing. That can easily be accommodated through private bathrooms, showers and dressing rooms.

I certainly don't want my kids hanging around with naked strangers, be they same sex, trans, cis, gay or whatever.

#216 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-04-03 10:54 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

How do you expect to persuade me to see your POV when you just delete any remotely contrary post?
If you just reflexively nuke my posts in a 1-sided manner why in the world would I give credence to anything you say? Respect isn't given. It's earned. You are obviously passionate about this topic and I'd very much like to discuss it with you in a civil manner. That involves a back and forth - a give and a take.
If it's going to be completely 1-sided I will just walk away from it - unpersuaded and if anything more entrenched.

#183 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

Hey dick face read my 127 post, which I know you chickened out of reading.

In March of 2022 NBC found 15 trans people in state prisons of nearly 4,900. Meanwhile the vast majority of those 4900 are subjected to assault and torture.

So the basis of your "concern" is completely unfounded. yet you continue daily to be "unpersuaded"

Cause you're an -------.

#217 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-04-03 10:57 PM | Reply

#165... "I doubt you have all the facts"
Our families have vacationed together since our kids were in kindergarten age town soccer together, my kids and the other families kids have been friends and are all in the same friend group.
We get toghether about 2-3 a month for dinner and to catch up. We've discussed EVERYTHING she has gone through as it transpired. I knew this girl as a young boy crazed pre-teen. Through first crushes etc. I saw her change on dime immediately after she was assaulted.
Don't tell me I don't know all the facts. [...]

#211 | POSTED BY KWRX25

I'm sorry if I doubt that you have the details of a private discussion between this non family friend and their doctor.

Again, it strikes me as incredibly odd that a doctor would start prescribing testosterone after 2 visits since gender affirming care STARTS with therapy to small style changes to a new name to presenting as the preferred gender all before any medical intervention.

If a doctor jumped straight to pushing meds, that sounds like malpractice.

#218 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-04-03 11:04 PM | Reply

217 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS

All time DR most obsessed poster.

Most hateful
Most unrepentant

Twoothy imagines BellringetDDS physically assaulted him.

#219 | Posted by eberly at 2024-04-03 11:08 PM | Reply

#212 no I'm not going to just listen to the person who is suffering a mental trauma. The most caring thing I can do for them is to challenge them on this. Her once girl now boyfriend ... I'll support them, no trauma, years of therapy, etc etc

Our family friend has destroyed her body, I hope I'm wrong and he never transitions back. If they do they'll have a life of hell. Started by their rapist and compounded by your compassion rcade that empowered a medical community to experiment on kids in the name of acceptance.

#220 | Posted by kwrx25 at 2024-04-03 11:25 PM | Reply

"I believe EVERYONE is entitled to use a bathroom or lockerroom in complete privacy and freedom. NO ONE should be exposed to anyone else naked either walking around showering or dressing. That can easily be accommodated through private bathrooms, showers and dressing rooms."

That's an ultraconservative, prudish position, and again it's not in line with the reality of most facilities. Especially in economically poorer areas, they'd literally have to cut services and reduce space for other activities at the school or Y or wherever. Or they'd have long lines of people waiting to use the showers. And even if your pi in the sky dream came true, you'd still see naked people in most locker rooms, especially when they're changing into swim wear. Or do you imagine each person is going to get their own private changing room with a single locker inside???

Is that what it's like at the country club you go to?

#221 | Posted by sentinel at 2024-04-03 11:39 PM | Reply

Civilized countries around the world are able to accomplish it but not Americans we too exceptional

#222 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-04-03 11:43 PM | Reply

"Civilized countries around the world are able to accomplish it"

Oh really? How many countries have you been to? And did you inspect all their facilities?

#223 | Posted by sentinel at 2024-04-03 11:48 PM | Reply

Our family friend has destroyed her body, I hope I'm wrong and he never transitions back. If they do they'll have a life of hell. Started by their rapist and compounded by your compassion rcade that empowered a medical community to experiment on kids in the name of acceptance.
#220 | POSTED BY KWRX25

How old was this child when he was raped, went to the doctor and began to transition? How old is he now?

#224 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-04-03 11:52 PM | Reply

#212. No minor can consent to permanent life changing surgery and life changing chemicals and hormone injections. Yet here we are.

#225 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-04-03 11:55 PM | Reply

#222. Civilized Western countries are pumping the brakes on this big time.

#226 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-04-03 11:56 PM | Reply

Is Caitlyn Jenner transphobic?

#227 | Posted by sentinel at 2024-04-04 12:01 AM | Reply

If people can't handle showering naked around others, maybe they should stay at home.

#228 | Posted by sentinel at 2024-04-04 12:09 AM | Reply

Is the BBC transphobic?

In an internal briefing note, BBC journalists and production teams were advised that "care is needed" when people are labeled "transphobic" and the term should be interrogated during on-air debate.

The advice featured in a nine-page document on "reporting sex and gender" circulated to the BBC newsroom late last year. Deadline has obtained the briefing, which can be read in full below.

The guidance follows the BBC apologizing to J.K. Rowling twice last year. The Harry Potter author was accused of transphobia by trans rights advocates, but the claim was not properly challenged by presenters

deadline.com

#229 | Posted by sentinel at 2024-04-04 12:42 AM | Reply

Is Caitlyn Jenner transphobic?

#227 | POSTED BY SENTINEL AT 2024-04-04 12:01 AM | REPLY

Self loathing perhaps?

#230 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-04-04 01:33 AM | Reply

And my favorite name - Destiny Hooker.

Posted by BellRinger

I got a kick out of "Ivana Humpalot" from Austin Powers: The Spy Who Shagged Me

#231 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2024-04-04 02:44 AM | Reply

"women's safe spaces"

There is no such place.

As demonstrated when Donald Trump entered the women's dressing room.

#232 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-04-04 07:04 AM | Reply

The fact that we know he did it, considered it wrong, and continue to reference it would indicate the opposite

#233 | Posted by kwrx25 at 2024-04-04 07:43 AM | Reply

Gal,

They were just turning 17 at the time. The next year their wardrobe shifted dramatically to dark and dumpy, they started dating girls in a serial fashion one after the other. About 9 months in the last girl was starting transitioning. Shortly after turning 18 they went to the same doctor their partner went to. It's been about a year if testosterone doses.

Everything was very quick

#234 | Posted by kwrx25 at 2024-04-04 07:47 AM | Reply

The fact that we know he did it, considered it wrong, and continue to reference it would indicate the opposite
#233 | POSTED BY KWRX25

So where's the safe space for women, since we all know he did it, and there were zero repercussions.

Where is the safe space?

There isn't one you stupid bitch. Women get raped everywhere.

#235 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-04-04 08:00 AM | Reply

The Party of ---- Your Feelings

wants to lecture us

on Safe Spaces For Women.

#236 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-04-04 08:04 AM | Reply

The Party of Family Separation

wants to lecture us

On Safe Spaces for Children.

#237 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-04-04 08:05 AM | Reply

#234 | POSTED BY KWRX25

TY for the info. I wish him/them both well.

#238 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-04-04 08:22 AM | Reply

Where the hatred can lead and will lead if we are not vigilant in this country:

Brynn Tannehill
@BrynnTannehill

A House candidate who is calling for the execution of LGBT people, and the ND GOP party platform endorsing "the restoration of gender dysphoric individuals, that they may embrace and be comfortable with their natural biological state" should raise huge red flags. 1/n

They are both arguing what the "final solution" to the "transgender question" should be in open public view. The Overton Window is wide open, but few can see it because they're not the ones in danger. Regardless, they want trans ppl gone, either dead, or forced into reeducation.

twitter.com

#239 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-04-04 08:56 AM | Reply

A House candidate who is calling for the execution of LGBT people

A House candidate, Pastor Mark Burns, SC, who has just been endorsed by Trump I might add.

#240 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-04-04 09:03 AM | Reply

#235 We have ideals Snoofy, and sometimes we fail to meet them. Those failures don't negate the ideal. Women should be able to feel comfortable in their own locker/changing rooms. The fact that Trump violated one doesn't mean that we just throw away the concept. Since you brought up rape there, who was even talking about that? A woman should be able to change in a locker room with a biological male body changing next to her if that makes her feel uncomfortable.

You usually don't go off so half cocked. I'm not sure what has you acting so much, as you say, like a stupid bitch.

#241 | Posted by kwrx25 at 2024-04-04 09:18 AM | Reply

Snoofy is just one of a number of bigots in this thread whose bigotry is deemed okay.

#242 | Posted by sentinel at 2024-04-04 09:25 AM | Reply

"Women should be able to feel comfortable in their own locker/changing rooms."

Nobody said they shouldn't.

Where should trans women be able to feel comfortable?

#243 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-04-04 09:36 AM | Reply

"The fact that Trump violated one doesn't mean that we just throw away the concept."

The fact that Trump violated one means the concept is a fairy tale.

Unless you're putting post 9/11 cockpit doors on the women's locker rooms, you white knighting for women's safe spaces is -------- and you know it.

The whole ------- planet should be a safe space for women. But I guess that never occurred to you.

#244 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-04-04 09:41 AM | Reply

"Women should be able to feel comfortable in their own locker/changing rooms."

They should feel comfortable managing their own pregnancy too.

Your interest in women's rights starts and ends with "protecting" women from trans women. Meanwhile there's 20,000 women in Texas who are forced to carry their rapists baby to term. www.msn.com

Conservatives have zero credibility on women's rights.

Zero.

#245 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-04-04 09:51 AM | Reply

Your interest in women's rights starts and ends with "protecting" women from trans women.
- snoofy

Again wrong, I've been consistently saying RvW was a fine ruling.

AND trans women in men's sports is wrong.

I guess the only person that has credibility on women's rights is me!

You unfortunately only get half credibility, the other half is a hatred of women.

#246 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-04-04 10:10 AM | Reply

"Where should trans women be able to feel comfortable?"

Eddie Murphy's car?

"The fact that Trump violated one means the concept is a fairy tale.
Unless you're putting post 9/11 cockpit doors on the women's locker rooms, you white knighting for women's safe spaces is -------- and you know it.
The whole ------- planet should be a safe space for women. But I guess that never occurred to you."

So just because Trump violated some laws and norms, that means we should do away with all of them? Just because the whole world isn't a safe space, that means we should abolish all safe(r) spaces? Interesting. Snoofy might be on (to) something here.

#247 | Posted by sentinel at 2024-04-04 10:19 AM | Reply

#244 you're right it should and it's not. I have read numerous articles in runners world and other like magazines about the anxiety women feel when men are just nearby when they are out on a trial, or the road. It would seem they should at least have a place to change afterwards without having to have that same anxiety. You jump right to making it a hermetically sealed room which isn't what anyone is discussing. No one sad it had to be panic room level of safe space, you keep going there all on your own. By that logic since no law or societal convention can be guaranteed... why bother with any laws, norms, or conventions at all. It's all pointless right?

#248 | Posted by kwrx25 at 2024-04-04 11:00 AM | Reply

"#244 you're right it should and it's not. I have read numerous articles in runners world and other like magazines about the anxiety women feel when men are just nearby when they are out on a trial, or the road. It would seem they should at least have a place to change afterwards without having to have that same anxiety."

I think women can feel anxious when they are in an isolated area by themselves whether it is a hiking trail or downtown alley. I also think women in a locker/shower room will feel less anxioius if there are other people around, either in the dressing room itself or in a nearby room where someone can hear them if they scream.

#249 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-04-04 11:29 AM | Reply

IOW, it's not the presence of men per se that make the women anxious but the presence of unknown men/strangers in an isolated area. I think the presence of a transwoman in a locker room would make women less anxious if there are are people around and/or they got to know the transwoman personally. I would also point out that anxiety is different from discomfort. Some women may be uncomfortable around a transwoman, obsese woman or even an elderly woman.

#250 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-04-04 11:35 AM | Reply

*there are are people = there are other people

#251 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-04-04 11:37 AM | Reply

"So just because Trump violated some laws and norms, that means we should do away with all of them?"

It means Deplorables don't get to lecture us on women's safe spaces when their President is a rapist.

#252 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-04-04 11:54 AM | Reply

"Some women may be uncomfortable around a transwoman, obsese woman or even an elderly woman."

Or a nonbinary, or genderfluid, or a weekend crossdresser, or someone named Trump.

#253 | Posted by sentinel at 2024-04-04 11:58 AM | Reply

"You jump right to making it a hermetically sealed room which isn't what anyone is discussing."

If you're not going to seal the room, how is anything you're doing actually protecting women?

What exactly are you proposing, and how does it actually protect women?

Is this like putting up a sign that says "Gun Free Zone?" Does that sign protect people from guns?

#254 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-04-04 12:11 PM | Reply

"Some women may be uncomfortable around a transwoman, obsese woman or even an elderly woman."

Also someone who is disabled or disfigured. People can be make uncomfortable by a lot of things.

#255 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-04-04 12:14 PM | Reply

So, then why not just desegregate all gendered spaces?

#256 | Posted by sentinel at 2024-04-04 12:25 PM | Reply

" I got a kick out of "Ivana Humpalot" from Austin Powers: The Spy Who Shagged Me

#231 | POSTED BY AMERICANUNITY AT 2024-04-04 02:44 AM | FLAG: "

Don't forget about Alotta Fagina from the first movie.

#257 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-04-04 12:25 PM | Reply

As you probably know it was a spoof on ----- Galore from Gdfinger. Just like Random Task was a spoof on Odd Job from the same movie.

#258 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-04-04 12:26 PM | Reply

Maybe all bathrooms should look like this:

upload.wikimedia.org

People might be uncomfortable about it at first, but they'd get used to it.

#259 | Posted by sentinel at 2024-04-04 12:29 PM | Reply

" Where should trans women be able to feel comfortable?

#243 | POSTED BY SNOOFY AT 2024-04-04 09:36 AM | REPLY | FLAG:"

Hang out with the rest of the dicks.

#260 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-04-04 12:34 PM | Reply

"Where should trans women be able to feel comfortable?"

"Hang out with the rest of the dicks."

^
You're comfortable sharing a locker room with trans women? I doubt it.
You think trans women are comfortable sharing a locker room with you? I doubt that too.

#261 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-04-04 12:37 PM | Reply

"Where should trans women be able to feel comfortable?"

Trans women go into a stall to change. lf you have a problem, it's because you won't leave them alone in that stall.

#262 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-04-04 12:40 PM | Reply

"
217 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS

All time DR most obsessed poster.

Most hateful
Most unrepentant

Twoothy imagines BellringetDDS physically assaulted him.

#219 | POSTED BY EBERLY AT 2024-04-03 11:08 PM | FLAG: "

It's getting creepy.

#263 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-04-04 12:41 PM | Reply

"Trans women go into a stall to change."

Says who? Most people in most locker rooms don't do. Heck, people in regular bathrooms often don't do that.

#264 | Posted by sentinel at 2024-04-04 12:45 PM | Reply

Look at this hateful bigoted transphobic bitch:

" EXCLUSIVE: Champion swimmer who was forced to change in a CLOSET to avoid undressing in front of trans athlete Lia Thomas breaks her silence and slams NCAA for putting women in a 'stressful and hostile environment'"

www.dailymail.co.uk

#265 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-04-04 12:45 PM | Reply

" They should feel comfortable managing their own pregnancy too."

At some point, maybe right after the first trimester, the unborn have a right to life.

#266 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-04-04 12:48 PM | Reply

EXCLUSIVE: Champion swimmer who was forced to change in a CLOSET to avoid undressing in front of trans athlete Lia Thomas breaks her silence and slams NCAA for putting women in a 'stressful and hostile environment'"
www.dailymail.co.uk

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#267 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2024-04-04 12:53 PM | Reply

At some point, maybe right after the first trimester, the unborn have a right to life.
#266 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

Well, you're making my argument for me.
You don't trust women to manage their own pregnancy.
You don't trust women.

#268 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-04-04 12:54 PM | Reply

At some point, maybe right after the first trimester, the unborn have a right to life.

#266 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

Why then?

#269 | Posted by Sycophant at 2024-04-04 12:56 PM | Reply

I'm pretty sure that based on this discussion the Liberal utopia is now something akin to society functioning on the same level as the purge.

#270 | Posted by kwrx25 at 2024-04-04 01:36 PM | Reply

People using the public bathroom that suits them is the same as The Purge.

#271 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-04-04 01:40 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Who wants to share a bathroom with a bulimic?

#272 | Posted by sentinel at 2024-04-04 01:41 PM | Reply

"Is Caitlyn Jenner transphobic?"
#227 | POSTED BY SENTINEL
"Self loathing perhaps?"
#230 | POSTED BY ALEXANDRITE

How is it self-loathing for her to acknowledge she has an unfair physical advantage over biological women, even with no detectable testosterone level in her body?

#273 | Posted by sentinel at 2024-04-04 01:52 PM | Reply

Ever watch a show like House Hunters? A lot of people don't want to share a bathroom with anyone, including their own spouses.

#274 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-04-04 02:25 PM | Reply

www.msn.com

#275 | Posted by eberly at 2024-04-04 02:26 PM | Reply

"Ever watch a show like House Hunters?"

Yeah. Maybe we should do away with all public spaces; everyone can stay at home with their individual private bathrooms and never have to interact directly with other humans. That would solve all these problems.

#276 | Posted by sentinel at 2024-04-04 02:56 PM | Reply

" They should feel comfortable managing their own pregnancy too."
At some point, maybe right after the first trimester, the unborn have a right to life.

#266 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

Where in the Constitution or Bill of Rights is this "right to life"?

The DoI is NOT an document that establishes our government, so Jefferson's turn of the phrase about life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness is n/a,

I ask because if a fetus has a "right to life" how come actually born people don't have that right?

Not to be critical of YOU in particular, but this is one of those things that is said but is never really considered.

#277 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-04-04 03:04 PM | Reply

Yeah. Maybe we should do away with all public spaces; everyone can stay at home with their individual private bathrooms and never have to interact directly with other humans. That would solve all these problems.

#276 | POSTED BY SENTINE

You do give off this vibe that you are intent on seeing people naked. Odd really

#278 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-04-04 03:05 PM | Reply

www.msn.com

#279 | Posted by eberly at 2024-04-04 03:38 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"LGBTQ+ issues are easy talking points for conservatives looking to rile up their base, and in the past few years, they've focused solely on transgender individuals as the lowest hanging fruit of gay rights issues."

Eberly gets it.

#280 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-04-04 03:40 PM | Reply

"The lawsuit will require the NCAA to revoke any titles that have been won by transgender women in the past, and give them "biological women" who won those events."
They're asking for a lot with that second requirement.

#281 | Posted by sentinel at 2024-04-04 04:38 PM | Reply

"You do give off this vibe that you are intent on seeing people naked. Odd really"

You give of this vibe that reminds me of when I was in Victorian England. Odd really.

#282 | Posted by sentinel at 2024-04-04 04:42 PM | Reply

I can't wait until the left starts calling NCAA women athletes haters, bigots, and transphobes who should just leave well enough alone.

#283 | Posted by eberly at 2024-04-04 04:48 PM | Reply

You don't have to wait to hear MAGAts shouting racial slurs at NCAA women athletes.

apnews.com

#284 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2024-04-04 04:56 PM | Reply

It's odd how the phrase "biological women" is in scare quotes.

#285 | Posted by sentinel at 2024-04-04 04:59 PM | Reply

"MAGAts"

Kudos for staying on topic.

#286 | Posted by sentinel at 2024-04-04 05:02 PM | Reply

"biological women" is in scare quotes.
#285 | POSTED BY SENTINEL

Biological women scare the hell out of Conservatives.

Conservatives get especially scared when biological women have the right to manage their own pregnancy.

So they don't let biological women do that any more.

#287 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-04-04 05:33 PM | Reply

"You do give off this vibe that you are intent on seeing people naked. Odd really"
You give of this vibe that reminds me of when I was in Victorian England. Odd really.

#282 | POSTED BY SENTINEL

You think it odd that I prefer to not be naked nor have my kids be naked in front of strangers or that I prefer to ---- in solitude or shower by myself. That is REALLY odd.

You know, it has been my experience that most women's locker rooms have private showers and men's locker rooms have communal showers.

Why are you not concerned about little boys being molested?

#288 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-04-04 06:46 PM | Reply

You think it odd that I prefer to not be naked nor have my kids be naked in front of strangers or that I prefer to ---- in solitude or shower by myself. That is REALLY odd.
You know, it has been my experience that most women's locker rooms have private showers and men's locker rooms have communal showers.
Why are you not concerned about little boys being molested?

POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS AT 2024-04-04 06:46 PM | REPLY

I know that's right. I don't even like to see me naked.

#289 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2024-04-04 07:00 PM | Reply

Like the saying goes, if you don't like the custom, you can always stay at home.

#290 | Posted by sentinel at 2024-04-04 07:01 PM | Reply

Like the saying goes, if you don't like the custom, you can always stay at home.

#290 | POSTED BY SENTINEL

Good to know you support our transsisters using the bathrooms/locker rooms of their gender identity.

#291 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-04-04 07:05 PM | Reply

"You know, it has been my experience that most women's locker rooms have private showers and men's locker rooms have communal showers."

Prithee, tell us about your experiences in both women's and men's locker rooms, and how you're able to extrapolate that to "most" locker rooms. Your experiences about this subject are obviously as limited as your idealized notions of what it's like in "civilized countries".

#292 | Posted by sentinel at 2024-04-04 07:10 PM | Reply

You are aware that there are things called building plans, right?

You are further aware that men and women talk, right?

You also might be familiar with google, right?

I suppose given your demonstrated intelligence I shouldn't assume.

Here let me help:

www.google.com

Dumbass

#293 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-04-04 07:17 PM | Reply

www.vancouverisawesome.com

#294 | Posted by sentinel at 2024-04-04 07:26 PM | Reply

"Good to know you support our transsisters using the bathrooms/locker rooms of their gender identity"

Do trans people have to use the bathrooms/locker rooms that match their gender identity? Or can they choose whichever bathroom they want?

#295 | Posted by sentinel at 2024-04-04 07:41 PM | Reply

"Dumbass"

Says the person who worships the Google algorithm as an accurate depiction of reality in response to a vague search query.

#296 | Posted by sentinel at 2024-04-04 08:09 PM | Reply

I wonder how many people are even aware of the etymology of the word gymnasium?

*sigh*

#297 | Posted by sentinel at 2024-04-04 09:09 PM | Reply

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