"Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu ... is an obstacle to peace in the region"

And Hamas?

I mean, Hamas has one stated goal. To create an Islamic Republic within the territory now known as Israel. In December, polling revealed that 57% of Palestinians in Gaza and 82% in the West Bank believe that Hamas was correct in launching the October 7th attacks.

In fact, support for the Palestinian authority is on the decline, while support for Hamas is increasing.

Yet it's Netanyahu that's the problem.

"No way Schumer does this without an OK from Dark Brandon."

I didn't think the speech was scathing at all. It would have been scathing if Schumer would have referred to the Israelis a bunch of reactionary Zionist imperialists committing genocide. He did not. Which is prolly going to piss off more than a few on the left.

Netanyahu is a degenerate. But it doesn't matter who is running Israel. Elimination of Hamas must be the top priority. And quite frankly the Palestinians who support Hamas need to learn that they will only suffer through their continued support. Whether it's because they support Hamas's goal of establishing an Islamic state, or because they think that Islamic state will get them "from the river to the sea," it's not going to happen. They are going to die for nothing.

"No consequences for Israel."

And Hamas?

Even now they steal food intended for the people of Gaza.

But somehow, these terrorists are still heroes to you.

#13

Ya nailed it.

A victory Hamas is a victory for the Islamic State. The world allowing Hamas to continue to exist is a victory for the Islamic State.

Support for Hamas is support for the death of an additional 10 million Jews.

Where were you Hamas supporters when Hitler was in power? You could have solved this problem 80 years ago!

"Which is why Hamas is never going away."

Do you want to take a gander at what separates Hamas from groups like the PLO, the PA, the PFLP, and Hamas?

In the interest of time, I'll answer the question for you. It is Islamism.

The former three were secular organizations committed to a secular state. Hamas is committed to an Islamic State.

What you would appear to be arguing is that Hamas exists because the Palestinians want, or maybe just favor, and Islamic State. One that wants to finish the good work Hitler started.

And you don't seem to have much of an issue with that.

"Hamas wouldn't exist if Palestine was a country."

Yes it would. It absolutely would.

In in an alternate universe, had the PLO prevailed and a Palestinian state been created, there would have still been popular movements supporting the creation of an Islamic State. Hamas would have been crushed in the same way that Egypt, Jordan, and Syria have crushed efforts to create an Islamic State.

"Hamas is Israel's way out of the Two State Solution."

A one state solution would be a far better solution...for almost everyone who was not a religious extremist.

"What exactly is it you think they're resisting?"

What every Islamic Group was resisting. The dilution of Islam by non-Islamic influence.

I mean, Hamas exists to create an Islamic State. If Israel were to agree to a two-state solution that included a secular Palestine, that would not be acceptable to Hamas. For two reasons. One, it doesn't include an Islamic State, and two, it would imply that Jews would still be allowed to exist in that part of the levant.

"Hamas only exists because Netanyahu funds them and because they promised the Palestinians freedom from Israel."

So, I looked it up. How much money did Netanyahu give Hamas?

Was it his own, or was it funded by Israeli taxpayers?

I googled it. I couldn't find the answer.

"If Palestinians had their own country, the last thing they'd want is to start a war with Israel."

Except they did have their own state. And chose to start a war with Israel.

What kind of state is Israel?

A Parliamentary Democracy.

Haha. You can't bring yourself to say The Jewish State.

Bruh, I just looked on Wikipedia:

"That's kinda sad."

You should notify Wikipedia that you take umbrage with their description of the Israeli government.

I mean, it's coming from you. Are you ever wrong?

"Write back when you get the exact number of Shekels since you can't have this discussion until you have the exact number of Shekels."

Or something?

Claiming that Israel is funding Hamas would be big news.

Israelis might want to know if their tax dollars are being funneled to the same group that rapes their daughters.

"Instead, IDF killed the hostages."

Ohh, I want to know more! So the IDF targeting boards determined that hostages were valid military targets? Sent jets up to drop bombs on hostages?

This is probably another thing Israelis would want to know. That the military considered hostages to be valid military targets.

Sorry bro, targeting is kinda my thing. I've done it for quite some time. I geek out on it.

"That's the reasoning of someone who blames his wife for the fact that he beats his wife."

Would Hitler (or Hamas) needed to kill all those goddamn Jews if they had just chosen not to be Jewish? Or better yet, marched into the ovens (or the sea) of their own accord?

#50

And let's not forget to pour one out for the Jewish communities of pretty much every Arab country in southwest Asia that's been extirpated over the last century.

Ask Snoofy and he'll tell you this is the fault of the Jews as well. They didn't know their place. Which was in the oven.

"IDF is responsible for killing hostages. They're shot three of them dead after it was determined they were hostages."

So...Israel's policy is to kill Israeli's Hamas is holding as hostages?

"It's been suggested Hamas knew what to target to achieve a blackout from intel that Trump shared with Putin who shared it with Hamas."

So...Trump shared with Putin info on the music festival?

Was that from a TOP SECRET document Trump kept in Mar-a-Lago?

"Would Hitler (or Hamas) needed to kill all those goddamn Homosexuals if they had just chosen not to be Homosexuals?"

Hamas kills homosexuals?

Why do you support that?

#61

My take-away from the article was that Israel allowed work-permits for Gazans. And allowed Qatar to give money to Hamas.

First, that's not even close to the same as funding Hamas.

Second, the logical answer-at the conclusion of this conflict-Work permits are no longer issued, and funds into Gaza are severely restricted.

In fact, and I don't think you actually read the article, the underlying point seems to be that Israel needs to get even tougher with Gaza:

"Hamas became stronger and used the auspices of peace that Israelis so longed for as cover for its training, and hundreds of Israelis have paid with their lives for this massive omission. The terror inflicted on the civilian population in Israel is so enormous that the wounds from it will not heal for years, a challenge compounded by the dozens abducted into Gaza. Judging by the way Netanyahu has managed Gaza in the last 13 years, it is not certain that there will be a clear policy going forward."

In other words, Netanyahu was not overly extreme, but was not extreme enough when it came to Gaza.

Do you agree with your article?

"Trump shared with Putin how IDF monitors the perimeter. The Hamas "commandos" knew what equipment to destroy. You really did not know this?"

Oh, fer ----- sake. I can't stand Trump. But he doesn't understand security in the US. You think he's an expert on Israeli security?

Sounds like some QAnon ---- to me. But if there were anyone who would be susceptible to QAnon...it would be you.

Pizzagate!

Jewish Space Lasers!

"Israel controls the border with Gaza; Netanyahu let the money for Hamas flow in."

That will probably end now.

Hamas leaders will take their billions and retire in Qatar.

Gaza will starve.

"Sounds like you mostly believe QAnon if you're making that comparison."

Actually, it sounds like you mostly believe QAnon. Or at least QAnon-like conspiracy theories.

Color me surprised.

"The former Israel could be become a multiethnic State that is fully inclusive of all it inhabitants."

Which is what should happen. And there is a precedent. There are lots of Palestinians and Arabs and Muslims living in Israel.

It's just a matter of reigning in the extremists on both sides.

#76

Is it not a normal country? If not, compared to what?

Most of Israel's neighbors already eliminated their Jewish populations.

Is that what a normal country does?

"Even if what you say is true, Does their bad behavior give Israel a pass on Genocide for Ethnic Supremacist reasons?"

I know "genocide" is a super fun word to say, but Israel is no more committing genocide now than the allies were when they were bombing Japan during WWII.

There is always a way to build a better mousetrap, but Israel can't sacrifice it's position on security in the interest of appeasing low-information third parties. Like the clows who are protesting in the US. Like you.