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Fulton Co DA's Office Rejects Claims about Cell Phone Data

The DA's office, responding to an earlier motion filed by Trump's lead attorney in the Georgia case, said the cited phone records "do not prove anything relevant" and should not be considered as evidence in proceedings to decide whether Willis should be disqualified.

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Lawyers representing the Fulton County district attorney's office are forcefully pushing back on allegations from former President Donald Trump and his co-defendants that cellphone data suggests the relationship between Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis and her top prosecutor in the Georgia election subversion case started prior to the time they both testified to last week, according to a court filing Friday evening.

"The records do nothing more than demonstrate that Special Prosecutor Wade's telephone was located somewhere within a densely populated multiple-mile radius where various residences, restaurants, bars, nightclubs, and other businesses are located," the prosecutors wrote in the Friday night filing. "The records do not prove, in any way, the content of the communications between Special Prosecutor Wade and District Attorney Willis; they do not prove that Special Prosecutor Wade was ever at any particular location or address; they do not prove that Special Prosecutor Wade and District Attorney Willis were ever in the same place during any of the times listed."

Judge McAfee will take into account all the evidence and all the testimony, including some not available to the public, and he will decide what's relevant, what's not, what's right and what's wrong.

#1 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-02-23 08:33 PM | Reply

The old 'you had no right to discover my wrongs' defense. The prosecution literally argues the opposite 100's of times a week in cases and yet now, they want you to ignore your lying eyes. But, it is moot as the content of the thousands of text messages will be revealed - bad for dirty Fani, worse of Wade who will not only be disbarred but knowingly lied in his divorce proceedings. They lied and got caught and doubling down now will only make the ultimate punishment that much more severe - you gotta love people that are equal parts stupid and arrogant. Her own best friend has flipped on her and Wade's former friend is in the act of flipping - this only gets funnier as Ghetto Fani is tossed off the case onto the street - where she belongs.

#2 | Posted by Claudio at 2024-02-23 08:42 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

lmao..... Trump's investigator says he phone software proves whatever he says it does, and Claudio climaxes.

------- for Trump... hahaha!

#3 | Posted by Corky at 2024-02-23 09:10 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

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The DA's office argues, among other things, that the cell phone data "do not prove anything relevant."

They point to calendars and emails allegedly showing that Willis was not in the same location as Wade on multiple occasions cited in Trump's proposed exhibit.

#4 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-02-23 09:40 PM | Reply

@#2 ... The old 'you had no right to discover my wrongs' defense. ...

How so?

Please provide details how rights were violated.

thx.

#5 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-02-23 09:41 PM | Reply

From the DAs court filing:

The records do not prove, in any way, the content of the communications between Special Prosecutor Wade and District Attorney Willis; they do not prove that Special Prosecutor Wade was ever at any particular location or address; they do not prove that Special Prosecutor Wade and District Attorney Willis were ever in the same place during any of the times listed in Supplemental Exhibit 38; and, in fact, on multiple relevant dates and times, evidence clearly demonstrates that District Attorney Willis was elsewhere, including at work at the Fulton County District Attorney's Office AND VISTING THE THREE CRIME SCENES WHERE A MASS MURDER MOTIVATED BY RACE AND GENDER BIAS HAD TAKEN PLACE.

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#6 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-02-23 09:45 PM | Reply

@#6 ... From the DAs court filing: ...

Yeah.

This needs to be decided in a Court of Law, not the court of public opinion that fmr Pres Trump relies upon so heavily.

#7 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-02-23 09:54 PM | Reply

"The old 'you had no right to discover my wrongs' defense."

It's not that at all. It's the new, salient "Geolocation alone doesn't prove a damn thing" defense.

It's as stupid as "2000 Mules" where the conclusion was anyone who walked by a ballot drop, therefore dropped off a ballot.

You have to be a moron to fall for it.

#8 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-02-23 10:03 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 6

@#8 ... You have to be a moron to fall for it. ...

Well, yeah.

#9 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-02-23 10:19 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#6

Arrive 10pm, leave 3:30am txt back upon arrival at home at 4am.

This is factual.

You can come up with stories about what the truth you want it to be.

But get real, there's only one obvious reason these facts exist.

#10 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-02-23 11:29 PM | Reply

@#10 ... you can come up with stories about what the truth you want it to be.

But get real, there's only one obvious reason these facts exist. ...

... and what is that obvious reason?

#11 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-02-24 12:08 AM | Reply

Experts split on reliability of cellphone tracking

Trump's lawyers are using phone records in effort to oust Fulton DA

Opinions are divided on the accuracy and reliability of cellphone tracking technology like that used by attorneys for Donald Trump to try to prove that Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis and special prosecutor Nathan Wade are lying about the extent of their romantic relationship.

Some criminal law and technology experts say data from cellphone towers is reasonably precise and commonly accepted by courts to show a person's movements, while others warn it paints a vague picture at best.

#12 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-02-24 03:58 PM | Reply

How the hell did they get location data without a warrant?.

Interesting link, Data from cellphone towers can be precise AND unreliable as evidence at the same time It is all about how that data is interpreted. (Sorta like statistics)

#13 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2024-02-25 12:20 AM | Reply

"Data from cellphone towers can be precise AND unreliable as evidence at the same time"

If there's a dropbox at the stadium, and 50,000 attend, does geolocation prove 50,000 dropped off votes?

Asking for a Dinesh.

#14 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-02-25 12:48 PM | Reply

@#12 ...Some criminal law and technology experts say data from cellphone towers is reasonably precise and commonly accepted by courts to show a person's movements, while others warn it paints a vague picture at best. ...

Even if the location data are "reasonably" precise, the area involved is somewhat densely populated with many evening and nighttime entertainment facilities, e.g., nightclubs, restaurants.

Could he have just been out for the evening, and not with DA Willis?

I'm willing to wait for the court proceedings to see the extent the data can be used.

#15 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-02-25 01:09 PM | Reply

@#13 ... How the hell did they get location data without a warrant?. ...

How your sensitive data can be sold after a data broker goes bankrupt
arstechnica.com

... In 2021, a company specializing in collecting and selling location data called Near bragged that it was "The World's Largest Dataset of People's Behavior in the Real-World," with data representing "1.6B people across 44 countries." Last year the company went public with a valuation of $1 billion (via a SPAC). Seven months later it filed for bankruptcy and has agreed to sell the company.

But for the "1.6B people" that Near said its data represents, the important question is: What happens to Near's mountain of location data? Any company could gain access to it through purchasing the company's assets.

The prospect of this data, including Near's collection of location data from sensitive locations such as abortion clinics, being sold off in bankruptcy has raised alarms in Congress. Last week, Sen. Ron Wyden (D-Ore.) wrote the Federal Trade Commission (FTC) urging the agency to "protect consumers and investors from the outrageous conduct" of Near, citing his office's investigation into the India-based company. ...

#16 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-02-25 02:39 PM | Reply

"Data from cellphone towers can be precise AND unreliable as evidence at the same time"

If there's a dropbox at the stadium, and 50,000 attend, does geolocation prove 50,000 dropped off votes?

Asking for a Dinesh.

#14 | POSTED BY DANFORTH AT 2024-02-25 12:48 PM | FLAG:
Exactly my point. The data is mathematically precise and can be used to map accurate boundaries in which the cellphones were geolocated, but the data's evidentiary value is zero concerning dropped off ballots.

Conversely, if there is a Dropbox at a stadium which collects 50,000 votes during a period with no events where only 100 cellphones were identified within the geolocated boundary, that could be circumstantial evidence of ballot harvesting.

#17 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2024-02-26 07:44 AM | Reply

"Conversely, if there is a Dropbox at a stadium which collects 50,000 votes during a period with no events where only 100 cellphones were identified within the geolocated boundary, that could be circumstantial evidence of ballot harvesting."

True.

Any incidences of that?

#18 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-02-26 12:16 PM | Reply

Maybe it is a good thing that I am not the judge deciding this matter. I would find that there is an appearance of impropriety at this point. I would wall off Fani from the case. All of you can argue until you are purple in the face that there has been no incontrovertible evidence of deceit by Fani or Wade, but I honestly (as a liberal Democrat and lawyer) cannot see how we can seriously claim there is no appearance of impropriety or dishonesty by Fani. And I deeply wish I were not coming to that conclusion.

#19 | Posted by moder8 at 2024-02-26 01:05 PM | Reply

Maybe it is a good thing that I am not the judge deciding this matter. I would find that there is an appearance of impropriety at this point. I would wall off Fani from the case. All of you can argue until you are purple in the face that there has been no incontrovertible evidence of deceit by Fani or Wade, but I honestly (as a liberal Democrat and lawyer) cannot see how we can seriously claim there is no appearance of impropriety or dishonesty by Fani. And I deeply wish I were not coming to that conclusion.

#19 | POSTED BY MODER8

But how does the alleged impropriety affect the case? How does it prejudice Trump?

In addition, are you forgetting she offered the position to others before offering it to Wade? Sounds like she took what she could get.

#20 | Posted by Sycophant at 2024-02-26 02:36 PM | Reply

#19 | POSTED BY MODER8

"One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we've been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We're no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It's simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we've been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back."
-- Carl Sagan (2011). "Demon-Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark," p.314, Ballantine Books

#21 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2024-02-26 03:15 PM | Reply

For you non-lawyers, the appearance of impropriety does NOT need to be an actual impropriety nor does it have to directly prejudice a specific given defendant. Yes, it a clearer case when there is actual impropriety or when the prejudice does target a specific defendant, but that is not the requirement. Basically the DA is supposed to be sparkly clean and above all suspicion of responding to outside interests beyond scrutinizing the alleged actions of the accused himself. And no, in the real world we all know it is not always held up to that level of analysis. Which may be the case here where the political consequences are so vast. (And, personally, I would argue it would be appropriate in an extremely rare case like this for the Court to be cognizant of the political and social consequences if Fani is removed from the case.)

#22 | Posted by moder8 at 2024-02-26 03:30 PM | Reply

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