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Thursday, February 15, 2024

A conservative group has told a Georgia judge that it doesn't have evidence to support its claims of illegal ballot stuffing during the the 2020 general election and a runoff two months later.

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#1 | Posted by Nixon at 2024-02-15 07:52 AM | Reply

Their belief it happened is sufficient-----For themselves. They won't give it up. It's what holds them together. Without it, they dissolve into goo.

#2 | Posted by Zed at 2024-02-15 08:43 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Robson is NOT impressed!

#3 | Posted by Corky at 2024-02-15 10:15 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

... it said it had obtained "a detailed account of coordinated efforts to collect and deposit ballots in drop boxes across metro Atlanta" ... the group's refusal to share evidence with investigators.

They cannot share what the apparently do not have.


"extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence" - Carl Sagan, 1979.


#4 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-02-15 12:02 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Well then. I guess "True the Vote" sounds better than "False the Claim"...

#5 | Posted by catdog at 2024-02-15 01:03 PM | Reply

You can tell if someone has drunk the Orange Kool-Aid if they try to get you to watch 2,000 Mules.

#6 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-02-15 01:05 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Republicraps wouldn't know the truth if it bit them in the ass.

#7 | Posted by Nixon at 2024-02-15 01:09 PM | Reply

Once again ... No ACTUAL evidence but lots and lots of (conspiracy) theories!

#8 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-02-15 01:31 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Fine them enough to shutdown the organization and put a stop to this nonsense.

#9 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2024-02-15 01:34 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Where's DiSleaze-a NOW to apologize to America?

#10 | Posted by e1g1 at 2024-02-15 01:57 PM | Reply

"You can tell if someone has drunk the Orange Kool-Aid if they try to get you to watch 2,000 Mules"

Yep.

And you can add bringing up Vince Foster, Benghazi, or Lois Lerner. All self-owns.

Also: support of Kari Lake, that's a dead giveaway.

#11 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-02-15 02:03 PM | Reply

JOHNNY

I'm thinking that the source they can't disclose might have been Rudy Giuliani and/or Sydney Powell trying to pull a bluff.

#12 | Posted by Twinpac at 2024-02-15 02:03 PM | Reply

Final repudiation of Dinesh D'Felon.

www.rawstory.com

#13 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2024-02-15 02:06 PM | Reply

You would think someone on the Right would
get tired of being sold a load of crepes...

But no, they love them some crepes...

#14 | Posted by earthmuse at 2024-02-15 02:25 PM | Reply

So all their evidence was made up B******t, no kidding. They lied and made up things, people gobbled it up and still believe it - objective achieved. These folks deserve serious time behind bars.

#15 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2024-02-15 03:53 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

@#15 ... and still believe it ...

That is the sad part for America.


#16 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-02-15 04:05 PM | Reply

They're just not divulging their sources and they don't have to. The media seems to use a "jump to conclusions" mat as depicted in the movie office space.

#17 | Posted by THEBULL at 2024-02-15 05:45 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

@#17 ... They're just not divulging their sources and they don't have to. The media seems to use a "jump to conclusions" ...

From the cited article...

... A judge ordered True the Vote to turn over names and contact information for anyone who had provided information, as well as any recordings, transcripts, witness statements or other documents supporting its allegations.

The group came up empty-handed despite having "made every additional reasonable effort to locate responsive items," its attorneys David Oles and Michael Wynne wrote in a Dec. 11 legal filing first reported Wednesday by The Atlanta Journal-Constitution. ...

[emphasis mine]


Also, wouldn't withholding evidence be considered obstruction of justice?


#18 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-02-15 06:09 PM | Reply

Ballot stuffing happens in every election since this country was founded.

It only has the possibility to effect really close races especially considering both parties do it.

#19 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-02-15 06:24 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

"and they don't have to."

Um...yes they do. They had their day in court, and the court ruled they had to reveal their sources. The reason, of course, was THEY were the ones making the accusations of criminal behavior, based on their "sources".

And that whole thing about "empty-handed", after they'd made "every additional reasonable effort" is clearly bullschittt. Are we actually supposed to believe, after their best efforts, they couldn't even come up with NAMES?!?

#20 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-02-15 06:25 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Ballot stuffing happens in every election since this country was founded."

And one side would have to it MUCH MORE than the other to move the needle.

And only, of course, in the swing areas. Makes no sense to steal three blue votes in the middle of Wyoming.

Plus, if what you're saying was happening on any scale, you'd have folks who felt coerced or guilty coming out of the woodwork.

#21 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-02-15 06:29 PM | Reply

^...have to DO it...

#22 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-02-15 06:29 PM | Reply

@19

Hold on one sec, Lyin' Jeff

This is another one of those posts you just post like it is true, but you don't back it up.

Link or STFU.

In fact, ballot stuffing does NOT happen to any measurable amount.

#23 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-02-15 07:15 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

The electipn was proven rigged when election laptop fraud was covered up by big tech and big corrupt govt. Exposure was proven that it would have made 10% difference in Trump favor. Nothing else to discuss.

#24 | Posted by Robson at 2024-02-15 09:05 PM | Reply | Funny: 6

Except that nothing you said was true.
Now there's nothing to discuss.

#25 | Posted by YAV at 2024-02-15 09:08 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Why did foxnews and oan participate in the laptop cover up?

#26 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-02-15 09:10 PM | Reply

Nothing else to discuss.

#24 | POSTED BY ROBSON

We should be so lucky.

You don't discuss.

You maga rant.

#27 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-02-15 09:11 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Everything he says is true, just only in his head.

He makes Evidence-Free declarative statements with no factual arguments at all.

Just like his Cult Leader.

#28 | Posted by Corky at 2024-02-15 09:11 PM | Reply

@#19 ... Ballot stuffing happens in every election since this country was founded. ...

Evidence, please.


#29 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-02-15 09:12 PM | Reply

@#23 ... This is another one of those posts you just post like it is true, but you don't back it up. ...

Don't hold your breath.

#30 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-02-15 09:15 PM | Reply

@#24 ... The electipn was proven rigged ...

Got a link for that?

Or is this just another fantasy in your mind that your alias expects us all to believe?

#31 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-02-15 09:17 PM | Reply

both parties do it.

#19 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

I don't agree but it sounds like what you are saying is that democrats outsmarted republicans at the game both parties allegedly play.

What does that make your party?

LOSERS

lol


#32 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-02-15 09:24 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

The electipn was proven rigged when election laptop fraud was covered up by big tech and big corrupt govt. Exposure was proven that it would have made 10% difference in Trump favor. Nothing else to discuss.

Are we sure this isn't satire?

It's pretty funny.

#33 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-02-15 09:27 PM | Reply

The electipn was proven rigged when election laptop fraud was covered up by big tech and big corrupt govt. Exposure was proven that it would have made 10% difference in Trump favor. Nothing else to discuss.
#24 | POSTED BY ROBSON

YEs there is. WTF is "election laptop fraud" referring to? You just making chit up now?

Worse, the Dems ARE going to rig the 2024 election. Only this time, they're going ALL the way down ballot. Trump is fnkced, won't be protected as POTUS, and Republicans will have zero power.

You idiots pushed the Dems to do this if only to save all of mankind.

Swallow it.

#34 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2024-02-15 09:29 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Robson, with all due respect, you seem to be unable to see the truth.

#35 | Posted by cbob at 2024-02-15 10:07 PM | Reply

@#24 ... Worse, the Dems ARE going to rig the 2024 election. Only this time, they're going ALL the way down ballot. Trump is fnkced, won't be protected as POTUS, and Republicans will have zero power. ...

Stop trying to imitate the Republicans.

You don't do it well.

:)

#36 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-02-15 10:35 PM | Reply

" ballot stuffing does NOT happen to any measurable amount.

#23 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS AT 2024-02-15 07:15 PM | FLAG: "

If you'd actually read my post instead of being immediately combative you'd see that I essentially said that.

#37 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-02-15 11:32 PM | Reply

Jeffyjbell never met a hill he didn't die on

#38 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2024-02-15 11:57 PM | Reply

@#37 ... If you'd actually read my post instead of being immediately combative you'd see that I essentially said that. ...

What your current alias said in #19 was...

... It only has the possibility to effect really close races especially considering both parties do it. ...


A difference.

But one without a distinction?

Well, for starters, your current alias did not discern between "really close races" and the "measurable amount" to which it seems to object.



#39 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-02-16 12:08 AM | Reply

Can you just talk normal? For once? And please quit being so pedantic.

#40 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-02-16 12:11 AM | Reply

@#40 ... Can you just talk normal? For once? ...

Can your current alias please try to understand English?

For once?

I'm not going to try to be a translator for your current alias.

#41 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-02-16 12:20 AM | Reply

I comprehend what you are saying. It's difficult to have any kind of meaningful discussion when you go into passive-aggressive troll mode.

#42 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-02-16 12:45 AM | Reply

@#42 ... I comprehend what you are saying. ...

That's not what your current alias seemed to say previously. But, moving on ...

... It's difficult to have any kind of meaningful discussion when you go into passive-aggressive troll mode. ...

So, asking questions about the comments your current alias posts is now a "passive-aggressive troll mode?"

Your current alias is going to need to be a whole lot more specific about that.

thx.

And, btw, let's get back to the topic of this thread...

...A conservative group has told a Georgia judge that it doesn't have evidence to support its claims of illegal ballot stuffing during the the 2020 general election and a runoff two months later. ...


What say your current alias on that topic?



#43 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-02-16 01:02 AM | Reply

Ballot stuffing has been run into the ground since this past election season. It all comes back to Trump unable to accept he lost the election. Over 60 court cases have been brought about illegal voting, not one of them has come up with evidence of such a claim. They all failed on lack of evidence such occurred. Courts do not accept conspiracy theories, they deal in facts.

There have been random reports of collection of ballots to supposedly haul into the election offices, which is illegal. To date everyone of them I've read has been Republican attempts to alter the vote. Those pointing to the Democrats doing the same thing have been non-existent. You can't tell me with all that investigation power that has been unleashed across this country, that such an act of sufficient caliber to alter the outcome of the voters could have remained undiscovered.

#44 | Posted by BBQ at 2024-02-16 09:47 AM | Reply

ballotpedia.org

Ballot Stuffing is more ballots cast then the number of eligible voters.

To my knowledge this does not happen in US elections, ever.

Therefore, it does not happen in every election since the nation's founding.

I will grant that jeff's problem post MAY be a sign of a weak, imprecise mind (meaning he called say an illegal vote cast to be ballot stuffing), but no one should give jeff the benefit of any doubt.

Either he was wrong or lying.

You decide.

As an aside jeff it is decidedly NOT what you posted.

You should learn something-words and phrases have meanings. If you want to be understood you should be careful in choosing words and phrases. The goal is to be understood by an audience that will interpret your words and phrases based on their understood meanings. A weak mind will use imprecise words and phrases because they are trying to express a feeling, but lack the vocabulary to express themselves precisely. You often seem to fall into that category (unless you are intentionally deceitful)-sometimes it is difficult to parse.

#45 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-02-16 11:42 AM | Reply

It was hilarious to see the GOP squirm so much. I heard or read multiple times in the days leading up to the election that the first numbers would support Trump and then later in the night when mail-in ballots were counted that the numbers would then start skewing Biden. Everyone knew it. It was easy to predict since it was more of the Liberal states and counties that did more to enable mail-in voting. They didn't say who would win, they just predicted how the votes would go during the counts.

And the day after the election, guess what they found? That everything went exactly like what was predicted. But that didn't stop the GOP from being dumb and sore losers. Every candidate creates lawsuits about voter fraud. Hillary did it. McCain did it. Etc. But both parties are getting more brazen so we are going to see more of this stupidity, not less.

#46 | Posted by humtake at 2024-02-16 11:43 AM | Reply

Ballot stuffing happens in every election since this country was founded.
#19 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

^
JeffJ dutifully casting doubt on the validity of the democratic process.

#47 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-02-16 11:58 AM | Reply

- Every candidate creates lawsuits about voter fraud.

Only one candidate ever created Fake Electors and a riot at the Capitol in an effort to overturn the results of an election.

And only one party doesn't care that he did.

#48 | Posted by Corky at 2024-02-16 12:23 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Robson, with all due respect..."

LOL!!!!!!!!!

#49 | Posted by Angrydad at 2024-02-16 01:09 PM | Reply

"Robson, with all due respect..."

LOL!!!!!!!!!

#49 | POSTED BY ANGRYDAD AT 2024-02-16 01:09 PM | FLAG:

I thought you might appreciate that. ;-)

#50 | Posted by cbob at 2024-02-16 03:16 PM | Reply

Evidence? That's for losers and suckers.

#51 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2024-02-16 09:49 PM | Reply

Every candidate creates lawsuits about voter fraud. Hillary did it. McCain did it. Etc. But both parties are getting more brazen so we are going to see more of this stupidity, not less.

#46 | POSTED BY HUMTAKE

First. That's two candidates ... not "every candidate".

Second. Both parties are not the same. One accepts and supports a lie undermining elections and democratic institutions and still defends an attempted insurrection because of those lies.

And you are here over 3 years later still trying to "normalize" that behavior.

Republicans are not acting "normally" anymore so get back to us when you have some evidence of democrats doing anything even remotely similar to January 6th. But please leave your favorite dic pics from hunters laptop at home.

Thanks!

#52 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-02-17 01:05 PM | Reply

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