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Monday, January 29, 2024

A clip of a Fox News interview with UAW President Shawn Fain is getting attention from viewers on YouTube not because the labor organization endorsed President Joe Biden for the 2024 election cycle but because the union leader listed so many reasons why former President Donald Trump didn't deserve the support of working-class people.

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Rapist scab lashes out at UAW President.

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#1 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2024-01-29 01:00 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Shawn Fain is owned by the AFL-CIO - he does what they tell him to do.

Member back when, when Slick Willy signed NAFTA into law? All the union's leadership still backed him, and every other politician with a (D) behind their name who supported that garbage.

#2 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-01-29 02:25 PM | Reply

Trump is a child-raping scab who'll be remembered for his 15% unemployment rate.

#3 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2024-01-29 02:29 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

There should never have been any question about who the UAW would support. Why would a union endorse a candidate representing a party that weakens unions at every turn - hell, the GOP would outlaw US trade unions if they could. This is the same reason the AFL-CIO supported Clinton after NAFTA - Dems haven't been perfect for labor, but they are light years ahead of the GOP.

Had the UAW decided to endorse Dotard, my loyalty to 'US' brands (GM/Ford, not a Dodge guy) would have ended...

#4 | Posted by HeeHaw at 2024-01-29 04:13 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

I work with union members, while the union brass gets paid for endorsements their members have shifted from left to right

#5 | Posted by Maverick at 2024-01-29 06:54 PM | Reply

@#5 ... their members have shifted from left to right ...

That's an aspect that puzzles me.

Why do people apparently vote against their own interests, vote to make their lives worse?

#6 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-01-29 06:59 PM | Reply

" Why do people apparently vote against their own interests, vote to make their lives worse?"

How do you know what their best interest are?

#7 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-01-29 07:02 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

"How do you know what their best interest are?"

You mean when people on food stamps buy lobster and $1300 iPhones you're not going to whine about it ever again?

#8 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-01-29 07:08 PM | Reply

"their members have shifted from left to right"

Is that really true?

#9 | Posted by eberly at 2024-01-29 07:11 PM | Reply

"their members have shifted from left to right"
Is that really true?
#9 | POSTED BY EBERLY

Well it's pretty darned true in the Rust Belt.
I would expect many of the few laborers remaining, the ones whose factories haven't rusted, have followed along with the prevailing winds.

This is a self inflicted wound for Democrats.

But also a self inflicted wound for low information workers, who are too dumb to realize that despite the Democrat rug pull, Republicans are still far worse.

#10 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-01-29 07:15 PM | Reply

Fat Donnie Loser is a liar, a fraud, a rapist, and a traitor. Only 4 but should be enough.

#11 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2024-01-29 07:18 PM | Reply

&n bsp

@#7 ... How do you know what their best interest are? ...

Easy.

What they seem to mention are their concerns.


#12 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-01-29 07:25 PM | Reply

@#10

FTFY

This is yet another self inflicted wound for Democrats.

#13 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-01-29 07:26 PM | Reply

So, how can the Democrats, let's say, evolve their message to win over those whose interests they seem to represent better than the Republicans, but are unable to convince?

imo, it has to be something sweeping in order to break through the right-wing firewall that surrounds the "news" sources digested the people the Democrats need to reach.

#14 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-01-29 07:32 PM | Reply

So, how can the Democrats, let's say, evolve their message to win over those whose interests they seem to represent better than the Republicans, but are unable to convince?

#14 | POSTED BY LAMPLIGHTER AT 2024-01-29 07:32 PM | REPLY

Promise them that the taxpayer will pay their pension obligations. That was the UAW's demand to endorse Biden.

#15 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2024-01-29 07:40 PM | Reply

"So, how can the Democrats, let's say, evolve their message"

Is Shaq available?

Democrats need displays of grassroots support coupled to an effective PR machine. They probably need The Daily Show to come back, but also more Taylor Swift and similar voices that operate outside the realm of strictly politics, while also speaking truth to uneducated likely Republican demographic voters.

So for the grassroots thing: Right wing groups will hold a Million Man March with barely any turnout, but Left wing groups don't march at all.

The gender gap is bad and getting worse. It's far too easy for guys to go down the IQ 85 Joe Rogan path. He tells them everything they want to hear without enough Bill Burr to call him on his --------.

#16 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-01-29 07:42 PM | Reply

@#15 ... Promise them ...

Got a link?

Here's one thing I found...

'Honored to have your back, and you have mine': Biden endorsed by United Auto Workers in election
apnews.com

... Fain, the first UAW president directly elected by members, took office after a huge bribery and embezzlement scandal that ended with two union presidents serving prison time. So he's making sure to follow union procedures on the endorsement and show that members made the decision, even though there's no way the UAW would have backed Trump, said Brian Rothenberg, a former union spokesman.

The UAW, with roughly 380,000 members, is normally one of the last unions to endorse presidential candidates, Rothenberg said. For example, the union didn't endorse Biden in 2020 until April 21.

In a November interview with The Associated Press, Fain made clear that he personally supports Biden, as he railed against Trump.

Fain pointed to Biden's trip to the GM parts warehouse, which is believed to be the first time a sitting president appeared with union picketers.

About that same time, Trump held a rally at a nonunion auto parts maker near Detroit, which Fain said was odd. Biden's administration also supported the union's bid to persuade Stellantis to reopen a shuttered plant in Belvidere, Illinois, and joined Fain in the city 70 miles (113 kilometers) northwest of Chicago to celebrate its reopening, Fain said.

Internal UAW polling typically shows that in the spring and early summer, 30% of members support the GOP, 30% support Democrats and the remaining 40% swing between parties, he said. By Election Day, members and UAW retirees usually vote 60% Democratic, said Rothenberg, now a public relations consultant in Columbus, Ohio.

The endorsement may also sway nonunion blue-collar white males, who have been voting more for Republicans than in the past, Rothenberg said. ...


#17 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-01-29 07:47 PM | Reply

"evolve their message to win over those whose interests they seem to represent better than the Republicans,"

Good question.

I'll start by listing what not to do......don't refer to them as stupid, uneducated, trailer trash who votes against their own interest.

Oh wait.....nevermind, already did that,

Yeah, once the Democratic Party loses a voter like that.....they aren't coming back. Once someone realizes how despised they are??? Yeah, not coming back.

#18 | Posted by eberly at 2024-01-29 07:55 PM | Reply

Promise them that the taxpayer will pay their pension obligations. That was the UAW's demand to endorse Biden.

#15 | Posted by sitzkrieg

Pension Benefit Guaranty Board

PBGC insures more than 26,000 pension plans. Congress set up PBGC to insure the defined-benefit pensions of working Americans.

www.benefits.gov

(A long list of corporations "borrowed" money from pension plans, handed it out as bonuses to management or blew it, and left taxpayers on the hook)

#19 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2024-01-30 12:54 AM | Reply

So neither of you followed the UAW negotiations leading into the endorsement.

#20 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2024-01-30 08:06 AM | Reply

"United Auto Workers President Shawn Fain on Monday said government should make up for pensions if corporations won't pay for them, downplayed security along the southern border and called for a just transition to electric vehicles.

Fain's remarks came during the union's National Community Action Program Conference in Washington, D.C. Hundreds of members have gathered to discuss policy priorities and partake in workshops focused on activism during this year's presidential election. The UAW has yet to endorse a candidate even as other major unions have backed President Joe Biden, but Fain has suggested an endorsement could come as early as this week."

"We're going to keep pushing for this in the next round of negotiations," Fain said. "But we're thinking even bigger, and we're not going to wait until 2028. Either the Big Three guarantee retirement security for workers who give their lives to these companies or an even bigger player does: the federal government."

That's Shawn Fain on the glossy front end of it delivering through speeches. The backend of it is an agreement with the Biden admin as their fallback as they continue to pressure the Big 3.

Yes, the taxpayer is going to be paying for union pensions. It is inevitable.

#21 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2024-01-30 08:11 AM | Reply

Republicans cashed in on the culture wars and low information factory workers of the rust belt are the left behind who never made it out of their home towns. They've adopted tribalism to feel better about themselves.. If democrats were to win over these votes, they would have to adopt bigotry and populism as their platform.

"stupid, uneducated, trailer trash who votes against their own interest" - the shoe fits.. Not despised per se, democrats actually have a modicum of interest in helping them.. rebublicans on the other hand, cash in on their discontent but they're too blind to see it. Rs toss them cultural bones like stricter abortion laws and paying lip service to going after illegals while lowering taxes for the .1%

#22 | Posted by igashosparks at 2024-01-30 01:00 PM | Reply

#22. The condescension and broad-brushing are astounding.

#23 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-01-30 01:06 PM | Reply

The condescension and broad-brushing are astoundingly accurate.

#24 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-01-30 01:18 PM | Reply

Well it's pretty darned true in the Rust Belt.

They buy into the line of ------- the GOP pushes all the time....that "right to work" states are better for employees. That regulations that keep workers from getting cancer or crushed in machinery costs them their jobs. That if you just allow the corporation to pollute the air, water and soil there will be plenty of jobs for everyone.

They particulary bought into the bulls**t in 2016 that he was going to force companies to bring back jobs which the GOP had never planned to.

#25 | Posted by Nixon at 2024-01-30 01:40 PM | Reply

list the 6 reasons why the brain dead vegetable got it.

1) Washington
2) Lincoln
3) Hamilton
4) Jackson
5) Grant
6) Franklin

#26 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2024-01-30 07:44 PM | Reply

"They buy into the line of ------- the GOP pushes all the time....that "right to work" states are better for employees."

I think it's mostly the dog whistle racism they buy into. That is what wins over their hearts. After you've won them over, their minds don't bother with processing facts anyway. So they just ignore things like people are poorer in RtW states because they just don't care.

I was at a Cleveland Guardians game this summer and you'd never know they changed their mascot.

You can take this multi-culturalism and shove it!

#27 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-01-30 07:50 PM | Reply

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#17 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-01-29 07:47 PM
@#15 ... Promise them ...
Got a link?

One of many: www.pbgc.gov - PBGC Approves Supplemented SFA Application for Local 365 UAW Plan

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Plans that applied for and received SFA under the interim final SFA rule issued in July 2021 are permitted to supplement their application under the provisions of the final SFA rule issued in July 2022. The Local 365 UAW Plan will receive approximately $19 million in supplemented SFA, which is in addition to $228.3 million in SFA approved for the plan by PBGC in May 2022 under the interim final rule. SFA will better ensure that the plan can continue to pay retirement benefits without reduction for many years into the future.

"Today's approval of supplemental Special Financial Assistance, funded by President Biden's American Rescue Plan, in conjunction with the previously approved Special Financial Assistance, means the Local 365 UAW Plan will be able to provide the retirement promised to its 3,736 manufacturing industry workers," said Secretary of Labor Marty Walsh, Chair of the Pension Benefit Guaranty Corporation's Board of Directors.

About the Special Financial Assistance Program
The SFA Program was enacted as part of the American Rescue Plan (ARP) Act of 2021.
The program provides funding to severely underfunded multiemployer pension plans ...

As of December 20, 2022, PBGC has approved over $45.5 billion in SFA to plans covering over 550,000 workers, retirees, and beneficiaries.

The SFA Program operates under a final rule, published in the Federal Register on July 8, 2022, which became effective August 8, 2022.
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gop-waysandmeans.house.gov - Brady: Democrats Force Taxpayers to Cover Irresponsible Promises with Largest Private Pension Bailout in History

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Democrats rejected protections for union workers in other underfunded multi-employer plans that are not as politically connected as the Teamsters' Central States plan. ...
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"... 37 multiemployer pension plans have requested between $4 million and $35 billion each, with 25 of those plans already approved to receive $6.5 billion of an estimated $97 billion in taxpayer money.

These never-before in U.S. history, no-strings-attached taxpayer bailouts of private multiemployer or union pension plans are part of the American Rescue Plan - despite the fact that this decades-long problem has nothing to do with COVID-19 ...

Now, they're on track to pay out even less, with taxpayers guaranteeing that 100% of whatever certain union pension plans promise will be delivered - at least through 2051..."

The bailout works like this: Plans that are in the worst financial shape can apply to receive lump-sum cash transfers direct from the Treasury (euphemistically called "special financial assistance") in an amount sufficient to continue paying 100% of promised pension benefits through 2051...
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... etc. etc., and so on and so on...

There was never any doubt about endorsement(s), but Shawn Fain did make Biden sweat and made sure that he "walked the plank"... er, "joined the picket line" for a minute.
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#28 | Posted by CutiePie at 2024-01-31 02:43 AM | Reply

So, union leadership endorses Biden, but a majority (if the comments isn't this thread are accurate) of the rank and file prefer Trump?

If I were a union member I'd find that to be greatly disturbing.

#29 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-01-31 02:53 AM | Reply

Democrats are a coercive devious political Party intent on grabbing power and money and graft for its donor class and its always elitist leaders. Forget their claims about ethics or DEI. Their party has little except for hand picked figureheads. They are a war waging party because it gives them more opportunities to skim billions from the your safety net and tax trough. Same with Union bosses like Randi Weingarten. They don't give a ---- about kids or average Americans or average anybody. It is about greasing elites. They use race and ethnicity - black, white, yellow, purple or rainbow as a tool to incite and to get more.

They have a mission and will do whatever it takes to achieve it for their corrupt and special insider cabal, and none of it is in your favor ever. That's why every city in America is going broke and turning into a decrepit poverty filled third world.

For an example take a look at CSPAN this AM at Senate Judiciary discussing social media. They are all Democrat billionaire bosses profiting immensely while corrupting your kids. Where's the almighty DEI in their corporate leadership that represents Dem donor party but not America?

#30 | Posted by Robson at 2024-01-31 11:00 AM | Reply

www.acslaw.org

a reality check for #30

#31 | Posted by Corky at 2024-01-31 11:12 AM | Reply

About ACS

The American Constitution Society for Law and Policy (ACS) is the nation's foremost progressive legal organization, with a diverse nationwide network that includes nearly 200 student and lawyer chapters, and progressive lawyers, students, judges, scholars, elected officials, and advocates.

The Democrat Party has been hijacked by a minority of full blown leftists (i.e Progressive) ACS and is about as diverse as George Soros and Grand Old Communist Party of America.

#32 | Posted by Robson at 2024-01-31 11:40 AM | Reply

very funny/// as if you couldn't find the same facts in dozens of journalist's articles.

just google your hero Leo Leonard... rwing king on Dark Money and corporate greed

#33 | Posted by Corky at 2024-01-31 05:25 PM | Reply

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