Sully, yes, I was referring to the Lutz family. The Defeo murders were tragic and, I believe, perpetrated by a person with a horrid mental illness that caused him to hear voices, on which he blamed his actions.
The Lutz family, however, were con artists, plain and simple.
And Kanrei, please do not remind me of that travesty of a film. The fact that James Spader was in it now makes the new Avengers film seem... soiled.