Hadn't read the article yet, turns out he knew it was the money of his employer. That makes it a lot harder to keep the money.

I would have kept the money, no questions asked. Anyone who "loses" a bag with $108,000 doesn't deserve to get it back.

You're entitled to your opinion, Null Set. Most retail stores sell laptops made by Compaq, HP, Acer and other garbage companies. I have heard nothing but complaints about those brands and from my limited experience using them, I would never waste hundreds or thousands of dollars on their products when better brands are available through the internet. The fact that they may contain the same processors and other essentials does not mean that they are just as well-made.

To echo what Null said, get the most RAM you can afford. You would also want an intel processor, preferably the "core" or "centrino" versions.

Hard drive space depends on how much music or movies you plan to download and store on the computer, as well as how much software you plan to install, but anything 60GB or more should be fine.

He'll get it. Look at the other nuts running for that party's nomination and you'll agree. Barr is by far the most electable.

Member, I'm wondering what it is about Paul you liked better than Barr.

Anyone who liked Ron Paul should take a serious look at Bob Barr.

Funny - those calling conservatives "ignorant" are also referring to others as "elitist." Sounds hypocritical to me.

"There are people on both sides claiming they won't vote for the other already."

They are lying. They will fall into line like the sheep they are in about three months.

Still waiting for the reps to win the war they started.

Still waiting to be welcomed as liberators.

Still waiting for flowers and chocolates for the troops from the Iraqis.

Still waiting for Iraq oil to pay for the war.

Posted by Buffalo_Bob at 2008-05-08 04:58 PM



Translation: Democrats are liars so I'll just deflect to Republican lies. It's easier than admitting that my own party is a complete failure.

Cock starvis, nothing you have ever said has ever cut close to home. I also don't drive so I don't give a shit about the price of gas one way or another. I know it's tough for you to be right about anything, so you might as well stop trying.

Chris, that's hilarious. My favorite part of the coloring book is the lawyer walking through the lunchroom talking to the administrative staff like he's "one of them." I've definitely seen that at both firms I've worked at.

Dethspud-

Did anything you listed even happen in the last 40 years? Most of the blacks voting lock-step with the democrats weren't even alive when those "revolutions" occurred. What have the democrats done for blacks RECENTLY? You sound like a sports fan who thinks his team is great because they won the championship 20 years ago.

Camry?

Chris, I didn't even know Corolla's went up to $25K, and I've always thought those to be the most reliable and fuel-efficient non-hybrid cars. I've never heard of anyone having the problems your neighbor is having, but I suppose it could happen. If I were to buy a car today that's definitely what I'd get. Also, Honda makes 4-door Civics and Accords that are known to be very reliable as well. Those two brands (Toyota and Honda) have been known for years to be the most reliable and well-made cars, and you can easily get one that is a couple years old for around $15K.

You might also want to look into Hyundai, their quality has really gone up in the last few years and they remain a cheaper alternative.

What is a "Secret Fun Baby?" It sounds like the name of an asian toy. Super time fun smile happy!

ShitsMe, the "fluff flag" thing was pretty funny, but you're lying about the rest, and you're still gay for saying "punkin." End of story.

ShitsMe is on the prowl today, getting excited about cock references. Is there anything more gay than using the term "punkin?"

ShitsMe likes WASP sperm. You know, the kind of WASPs who go yachting and play tennis.

Looking for a partner, ShitsMe?

Tax, I walked past a karate place the other day and the only thing I could think about was "my 8 week program" and "the other arm - my other arm."

Either cock starvis' post was a joke, in which case it wasn't funny, or he is a moron for misunderstanding sniper's post so badly. Either way, I'm sorry I read it.

I wonder if UC even realizes that there are blacks out there who are more racist than anyone. My guess is his need to feel like a victim precludes him from being able to notice.

In fact it has been for over a week now.

Chris-

Gas is $3.93 in Chicago right now. You are not the only one. I'm guessing it's even more in NYC.

Who cares if they are divided in the primary? As soon as Obama is chosen they will band together in a lovefest, with the common enemy being McCane. All this crap about division is just that - crap.

Plus, to bring up cloture refusals is to suggest that Pelosi and the Democrats brought some sort of "gas price relief," "FTC Crackdown on oil companies," or "rescind corporate welfare" bill up for debate in the first place. Did that even happen?

I'll agree with that, Monte. I'd say it's that along with the lack of a desirable alternative.

Cloture refusal doesn't kill a bill. It keeps it open for debate. Couldn't the record cloture refusals in "under half the time" be indicative of democrats attempting to bring debate to a close earlier than necessary?

Thanks EP.

Monte, I never said that Republicans have done much to earn the black vote - I'm saying that Democrats haven't in the first place. I think I've read that most blacks support Bush's education policies on paper but still aren't willing to support the GOP. I attribute this to all the talking democrats do about helping blacks but question why those voters don't look for results before believing the talk.

"Joe doesn't quite get why most black voters feel uncomfortable in the GOPher's "Big (White) Tent"?"

Your post is proof that you can't think of anything. Why post at all? I wonder that about you quite often.

Monte-

When I asked for Obama's stance on certain issues, I only asked it because I knew that most of his supporters probably don't even know what his plans are.

When I asked you what Democrats have done for blacks, it was a serious question. I can't think of anything other than lip-service and failed social programs that have done nothing to decrease crime and poverty in black communities. I have googled around and haven't found anything else. Since you made the assertion, I'd say it's your turn.

And yes, it is exam time - that's why I'm here, avoiding my books. Only two left.

"Blacks are perfectly "capable" (in 101's thinly veiled language) of voting for a party other than the Dem party, if that other party truly supported their causes"

What have leading democrats done in the last 20 years to advance "black" causes? Please be specific.

"Actually Joe, I would like the current resident of the White House to answer this little quiz."

This is the only answer I get? The best description of Obama's plans for America is a Bush deflection? What are you lefties going to do when Bush is gone? Who will be your "go-to guy" when you are at a loss to answer for how big of failures the Democrats are?

Now that it appears as though Obama has the nomination locked up, I'd like his supporters to participate in a brief quiz without checking any websites for the answer. This will be done on the honors system.

1. What is Obama's plan to solve the looming social security crisis?

2. What will be Obama's policy in the middle east?

3. What is Obama's plan to solve the looming medicare shortfalls?

4. What is Obama's policy on energy?

5. What will Obama do with our military?

6. What is Obama's stance on illegal immigration?

"I drove the same 4 cylinder un air-conditioned car for 24 years."

You also flew airplanes, which more than cancels out any fuel-efficient driving you might have done.

Johnson's post speaks to a larger cultural problem and he makes some valid points. None of them, however, excuse the act of a schoolteacher taking a kids mexican flag and putting it in a garbage can.

I chose my words carefully. Glad you picked up on it, rightisright. I wonder how many of the people on the retort who claim to care about the environment even use recycled paper towels.

Does anyone believe this?

No.

Most Americans who claim to give a shit about the environment are too lazy to change their own lifestyle and start making a difference.

"Libs love people who burn the American flag and call it free speech but somehow these same libs think it's wrong to throw a Mexican flag in the garbage, and teachers have no free speech."

That's stupid. When a teacher steals an American flag from a high school student and throws it in the trash, you might have a point.

"I don't need this much space," McHugh said of his SUV. "It just seems ridiculous."

Why didn't it seem ridiculous when he bought it? Have his needs for space changed?

"If the Mexicans love their flag so much then fly it -- back in Mexico."

I see italians and polish people all over Chicago displaying their home flags in one way or another. Do you think all those people should go back to Europe, or does this only apply to Mexicans?

"It's also interesting the location - Idaho. Not what you'd consider the hotbed of Hispanics."

It's also not surprising, as some areas of Idaho are filled with racists. I also think it's silly to focus on whether the ACLU should or should not be "involved" in this situation. The fact of the matter is that unless there is a school rule prohibiting flags, the teacher was wrong to take it away. If the rest of what the student describes is true, the teacher is also an asshole and should be fired for that reason alone.

"If the cops were all worked up bu the actions of the people in the car, it is easy to see why they didn't stop soon enough to suit you."

It is a cop's job to handle tough situations in a cool and calm manner, and not to let the stress get them "all worked up" to the point of beating someone after they have already been subdued. Yes, I have been "worked up" before. I'm not a cop.

Rob-

As I said in the beginning, the video doesn't provide a good enough view to say whether the guy was detained or not when they continued to beat him. All I have said is that if they did beat the guy after he was already under their control, then what they did was wrong. End of story.

"Yeah. He's a guy who ends sentences with "'K?" In light of that, my guess is Corky's hobbies include shopping and musical theatre."

Wait! You can't say that! That implies that being gay is "negative" in some sort of "funny" way! That's outrageous!

-Danforth the Theater Accountant

"You can't tell what they were doing when they were on the ground in the video."

Right Rob. A guy laying on the ground on his stomach surrounded by five cops really poses a threat. It's pathetic that you're willing to go to such illogical lengths to defend the actions of a bunch of emotional cops. All you have to do is admit that once the guy is subdued, he doesn't deserve to be beaten anymore. Whether or not he was subdued in the video will come out later. Just admit that cops shouldn't beat people after they have been detained and we can stop talking.

"Is it the job of the person being pulled over to give the cops a reason to get tough? What do you have to do to piss them off enough for there to be 12 poliece at your trafic stop?"

I don't know. What does any of that have to do with cops kicking and punching someone when they are already on the ground?

"How do you know? The people in this car were just involved in a shooting... Try to put yourself in the mindset of an officer in that situation."

I already have. Put your gun in his face and have your partners rip him out of the car as hard as they can and throw him on the ground. No further punching and kicking is necessary when the guy is laying on his stomach. What further damage is the guy going to do at that point?

"do you know what happened before the camera was turned on?"

No. What I do know is that they had the guy out of the car and on the ground, and continued to punch and kick him. He could have murdered 20 cops before the camera was turned on - cops beating him after he was subdued would still not be justified. I am not saying the person doesn't deserve to be beaten. I am saying it is not the cops' job to do it.

"Have you ever been pulled over by a cop? If so, did you do anything to piss him off?"

Yes, I've been pulled over, no, I don't do things to piss cops off. Precisely because I know that half of them get off on kicking the crap out of people. That doesn't mean that it's part of their job to do so.

I never said anything was happening because these people were black. I'm fully aware that the people were beat because they ran from the cops and supposedly shot another one. That doesn't mean they should be beaten by the cops when they are already on the ground and detained. They might deserve it, but it isn't the cops' job to dish it out.

Again Rob - detaining someone may require some force, but not the force shown here, which appeared to be more than that necessary to subdue the suspect. You are just happy to see a supposed cop-killer get his ass kicked. As am I. But I won't go far enough as to say that the cops were right to do it, or that it is part of their job description to beat people up.

"if those guys didn't want their asses kicked don't shoot at people"

1. You have no idea whether these people shot anyone.

2. Even if they have, it is not the cops' job to shoot them back, or punch them, or kick them. It is the cops' job to bring them into custody and detain them. That may involve a certain amount of beating, but not anything beyond that required to get the person into handcuffs.

It is not a cops' job to punish you, no matter how much you want to think that these cops had a right to punch anyone.

It is not a cop's job to deliver punishment. It is a cop's job to bring the suspect into custody and detain them. The only beating that would require would be the amount necessary to subdue the person. Any further punching and kicking is unnecessary venting of aggression.

"They should have just shot them."

There you go. Why have a trial or anything? Shoot anyone who you think has killed a cop. Why have courts at all? Just let the cops figure everything out.

"you expect them to knock on the window and say, "Hello fellow citizens, if you wouldn't mind stepping out of the vehicle we would greatly appreciate it, but before you do allow us to call your lawyers and the ACLU for you, and if you could do so without shooting us in the face we would very much appreciate it."

No, I don't expect that. I only think that suspects should be beaten if they are resisting arrest, and that the beating should stop once the person is subdued.

You are in favor of police venting their aggression on the suspects because of the nature of the crime they allegedly committed. I am not.

Sounds like an expensive way to "shine your fixtures" or treat your poison ivy. Rubbing alcohol works just as well at about 1/10th the price.

Rob seems to think that cops exist to deliver punishment. No matter how guilty someone is, no matter how much the scumbags might "deserve it," they should not be beaten by the police. Period. If you think they deserve it, then go beat them yourself and see what happens.

"Is there anything in Constitution about scrapping the whole system, and starting over from scratch?"

Yes. It's called voting.

Anyone who's been to Chicago knows that its' economy is booming, despite recent increases in violence in concentrated areas that have always been desolate shitholes. Any comparison to detroit is laughable.

"I wonder how the last three posts will feel if BushCo sends them to the to one of Haliburtons New Prisons accidently because they were put on a Terrorist Watch list, like Cat Stevens and Ted Kennedy. A simple name match is sufficient."

Given that those three posts dealt with the death penalty, I'd like to see one example of anyone being put to death simply for being on a terrorist watch list.

"we don't know what they did that lead to the chase and the ass kicking."

Like I said - as soon as the people were subdued, the beating should have stopped. Criminals are not there for cops to take out their frustration and aggression on, despite the fact that the cops have every right to be angry. It is not their job to let that anger out in a negative way no matter how natural it may be to do so.

"I'd rather see three hoodlums get their asses kicked then one cop shot..."

Just because you'd rather see one thing happen than another doesn't mean that it's right for the cops to do it.

"White folks often think they've made some incredible gesture by giving black folks what should have been theirs all along -- and so believe they deserve black approval/friendship."

I've never met a single white person who thinks they deserve anything from black people. What are you basing this information on?

Fine. Shoot him in the head just like all the innocent people he murdered. One less scumbag on this planet.

It's hard to tell from above whether the guys actually did anything to warrant being kicked and beaten like that. Either way, I'd say that once you have subdued the guy, the kicking and beating has to stop. I'm not saying the cops don't have a right to be angry, but it's not part of their job to take out their frustrations and emotions on criminals.

726, at most, your post proves that both Democrats and Republicans are liars and failures. Is that your only point?

Danni-

Politicians don't control the price of your home. If you elect Barack Obama, your house will not be worth more because of that. I can't believe any adult actually thinks the way that you do.

Herm forgets that some corporations target their holdings toward people who have a conscience, and thereby do "good" things to accomplish that end. As usual, there's no use in explaining anything economic to a liberal.