" The stock market has done better with a democrat in the WH over the past 30-40 years. Or at least that claim has been made a couple million times here on the DR......so I'll assume it's true."

You're joking, right?

As an investor, it's actually pretty obvious. I mean, not even close.

You really can't tell for yourself?!?

Have you tried Actual Math???

"And why does it have to include killing their own people? To Americans, that is barbaric and a government that is out of control"

I AGREE! By the way...

Alex Pretti on line #1 for you.

Renee Good on line #2.

I see MB has run away from taking responsibility for his post. Telling.

"About 8 in 10 Americans who re-enrolled in Affordable Care Act marketplace coverage say their health care costs are higher this year"

Even if prices stay the same, health care coverage costs go up each year.

Why? Because you the customer are a year older.

Remember, Policy ABC-123 doesn't have ONE price; it has 46 prices, depending on your age. 54 yr olds will ALWAYS pay more than 53yr olds, and always pay less than 55 yr olds. 64 is the top of the market. It's also the default price for COBRA.

So even if prices stay the same, your costs are slated to go up every year.

It's the same concept as life insurance. Those folks who charge the same "rate" to everybody? They alter the payouts instead.

"Stupid Parents Refusing Routine Preventive Care for Newborns"

alternate:

Stupid Parents Endangering Our Kids

At some point, the government needs to be smarter than the populace.

It's why there are laws against inbreeding; it certainly wasn't the cousins' idea.

"He already acknowledged the mistake. "

Um..no. He posted ANOTHER link, which still didn't prove his claim.

He owes a retraction. His statement was demonstrably false. His response was, proof is on a different page. It wasn't.

His claim is bullsheet. He's off by 200%. And you either didn't bother clicking on the links (quell surprise!), or did, and you don't comprehend what you're reading.

But seriously...$47000, and no income taxes?!? That doesn't pass the smell test, unless it's a trust fund baby.

"table one doesn't say what you're saying. Not even close."

Aren't you supposed to have a degree in economics?

Shouldn't a statement like the one you made alarm you? You didn't realize it didn't pass the smell test???

"Yeah...I posted the wrong thing. Table 1."

OK ... in that case, table one doesn't say what you're saying. Not even close.

Are you going to Retract and apologize?

Sorry MB, I looked at both things you posted and saw nothing about folks making $47,000 and not paying income taxes.

Specifically, where did you get it? What article, what page, what paragraph?

Sax ... .

" Paco12345 doesn't even know he's on the roll"

He died last week. Oops.

How did he cast that vote in person?
~Investigators

" Uh, they count the same inputs again?"

And they come up short, the total of the shredded votes. The outlying discrepancy gets investigated.

You haven't really thought this through, have you?

"subtract $1000 from your taxable income, and see how much your bottom line changes."

Be aware of tax "pockets". I've seen folks in the 12% marginal bracket pay over 30% on income. Especially when a pension, Social Security, and income all collide. Each one makes the other more taxable.

You might be in the 12% bracket, but if you're paying 31% on your last 1,000, you're in the 31% bracket. But it can help, if you realize $7,000 to a Trad-IRA might save you two grand.

"Roth IRAs don't have RMD... hmmm. I wonder who benefits most from that, is it rich people or poor people?"

Peter Thiel had $5 billion in his Roth IRA by 2019.

Pretty good for max contributions of $2000-$5500 per year.

"TurboTax says my blended tax rate is 17.6%."

That's effective rate.

Now subtract $1000 from your taxable income, and see how much your bottom line changes.

That's your marginal rate.

"Paco12345 doesn't even know he's on the roll"

Ah, but his sister registered AFTER your list was made. Oops.

Hope you look good in stripes. 1 year, $10,000 per fraudulent vote. That's a helluva ROI.

"you don't notice late-night zombie ballots counted in secret and shredded in the morning."

Zombie ballots get discovered as soon as the success rate falls below 100%. If TWO PEOPLE check and find votes cast which they didn't, the whole operation gets busted.

And shredding in the morning? What happens during the recount?

You're dealing with a system that gets weaker with scale. And also...all the voter ID in the world won't counter your scenario.

Anyone who reads the Heritage Foundation's website on vote fraud will notice the real danger are the three "C"s: Canvassers, Cullers, and Counters.

"we can slant our -------- any way we see fit!"

Tell us you've never noticed they avoid mentioning illegal votes being cast, without using those specific words.

"...like "bloated"?"

"Bloated" is the essence of your complaint.

"states rights!!"

So the Feds should run elections in the states?!?

Any other parts of the Constitution you'd like to amend?

"Motor-Voter Law Often Lures Non-Citizens into Voting Illegally"

"Often"

A weasel word, with the author as barometer.

If it was "often", a guy looking for it under every rock would've found more than ONE.

" The DMV also found a "system error" that lasted for three months and permitted ineligible individuals to register to vote."

So basically, they screwed up, fixed it, no one cast a single vote illegally...

...and that's proof to you the system doesn't work?!?

"after more than 1600 ineligible voters were registered to vote."

How many of them VOTED?

I agree on tightening the procedures...but how many of them VOTED?

The KS mayor represented ONE instance, and iirc, it's Kobach's first case against an illegal immigrant since his famous debacle of telling the KS legislature he had "over 100 cases ready to file", and ended up $4 million later with ONE illegal immigrant convicted.

"...but def not compromised."

The defining difference being did anyone cast an illegal vote?

There are other problems, of course: mailing costs for non-existent voters is certainly one of them. But multiple USPS rejections, coupled with no votes for a decade (for example) should purge folks from the rolls. I've got no problem with that.

"What do you mean by "bloated"?"

Do you know anyone who's ever moved, and contacted the OLD voting place to take their name off the registry?

I don't either.