It really pisses me off to hear this ridiculous rhetoric.

Here is a solution.... your computer has a power button. Not only does it turn the power on, it can also turn the power off if you delicate mind cannot handle the "ridiculous rhetoric".

No one is forcing you to read this or be here sweetie. If you cannot take the heat, step out of the kitchen.

I wasn't able to crop her father out of the photo so I'll have to post it as it is.
Jenna did look pretty at her wedding

She looks more and more like her daddy every day.

Poor kid.

That other kids' dad could be people like all of you liberal nuts but that's right you're too chicken shit to really fight for anything.

You lost me right there.

Don't be so dumb.

So is requiring a photo ID also a thinly veiled attempt to keep the poor and elderly from checking out a book from the public library? Using a credit card? Cashing a check? Setting up utility service?Buying a car? Setting up a bank account? Getting a mortgage? Signing a lease? Setting up an investment account? Signing up for Social Security? Getting a job?


Are any of those guaranteed by the Constitution?

No.

This country is starting to unravel, I can forsee our country falling apart as we get farther and farther away from the ideals on which this country was founded.

So a refusal to follow a loyalty oath written 100 years after the nation was founded is akin to the country moving away from the ideals on which the country was founded?

Again, this nation was founded on the notion of inalienable rights, such as freedom of speech. Mandatory loyalty oaths are not free speech, and have been ruled unconstitutional by the activist Supreme Court.

To those who question authority and foster anarchy, when a teenager questions authority and questions and questions and gets into trouble, then lives on the street because he or she was having "problems at home", does it usually turn out good for the teenager?


Many of the signators of the Declaration of Independence died penniless after they lost all of their possessions. Somehow they managed to put their ideals of liberty above their comfort.

It never fails to amaze me how willingly the pants pissers will race to conform, surrender their rights and freedoms to a government agency. The founders must be looking down on you with pride.

At the root of authority is: do not intentionally, publicly, as an example to all the other kids, fail to comply. That's all this case is. Very basic.

Posted by jonryker

So legality takes the backseat to compliance.

That is so right wing.

A remark that Bush didn't make. It is only in the mind of all you Bush haters.

And you can be sure of your claim how?

really dont understand what the problem is

Yeah, no one has ever been able to forge a photo id.

Especially not a teenager who wants to get into a bar.

Nah, it will never happen.

Just another thinly vieled attempt to keep the poor and elderly from voting.

Boaz, please tell me what are the requirements to be a citizen of the United States.

Well then the only business that I can see this working in is some sort of menial service type job with little or no chance for further promotion. Where employee morale does not count and the people just go through the motions to earn a meager poverty level paycheck.

Walmart comes to mind, though I don't know why.

I guess if my business had conditions that were that horrible for the employees who toil day in and day out to provide me with comfortable lifestyle I would be worried about chronic absenteeism as well.

Nice to know exactly where working conditions for everyone but the "select few" are heading.

If you are not loyal and have no allegiance to this country -- then get out.
Why should I pay for your education. Let the country to whom you are loyal pay for it and go to school in that country

Positively right wingbot thinking there.

I hope you were being sarcastic.

Anyone caught helping Jews in Nazi-occupied Poland risked being summarily shot, along with family members - a fate Sendler only barely escaped herself after the 1943 raid by the Gestapo.

The Nazis took her to the notorious Pawiak prison, which few people left alive. Gestapo agents tortured her repeatedly, leaving Sendler with scars on her body - but she refused to betray her team.


What an friggin communist. Any good freedom loving person knows that you bow down to authority, recite the pledge (loyalty oath) of allegiance, submit to authority and that torture always works!

Irena, may you bask in the glow of God's smile, you countless sacrifices to save lives and make a horrible situation even a little better has earned you a special seat alongside the Lord.

No one is above this nation and all who partake in it's goodness should be require to show reverence.


Yes, fuck our inalienable rights, it is much more important to be compliant, reverent and submissive to authority.

This is utter stupidity. As long as they're following their written procedures, which they clearly are, they can suspend those kids for refusal to comply. Straightforward. No-brainer. Kids lose.

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"As long as they're following their written procedures..."

Posted by jonryker

Are you saying that as long as they wrote down the procedure, all is okay?
Come on, JR, its settled constitutional law.

Posted by Hagbard_Celine


Well we all know that the Constitution is just a Goddamned piece of paper in bushworld.

OWS,

Last thing I want while flying is some ATC to be doped up on decongestants and NyQuil.

I come to the office all the time when I know I shouldn't due to illness, but when I make a mistake people don't die is fiery crashes.

I have always taken the position with my employees that if an employee has the time coming to them and nothing pressing is in their work in process, then let them have the day off.

This is the type of micromanagement shit that really drains a business of good talent.

I expect he will be caught in a gay sex scandal sooner or later.

Posted by danni


His nickname at college wasn't "Lips" for nothing.

Most reasonable people are opposed to arson.


Are you serious?

So the VFW are a bunch of arsonists then?

this strikes me as the PEOPLE saying that they do not support the current direction of our government.

Yeah, that's fine, whatever. Go protest somewhere then.

Our duty to stand and recite the pledge allegiance transcends whatever opinion you may have of the current administration/direction we're going in. To not recite it is to kick a steaming lump of shit into the face of every founding father and soldier who died to make it a sovereign nation.


Sounds like they did protest.

How many founding fathers do you believe would be in favor of a forced loyalty oath to a piece of cloth?

Do you even know the origin of the pledge of allegiance? That it was written by a minister and a socialist one at that?

Did you also know....
One year after receiving this official sanction, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that school children could not be forced to recite the Pledge as part of their daily routine.

I say the ACLU, the evil bastion of defending civil rights, should get involved.

I disagree.......like, completely.......its the left who is all about free speach......as long as its something they agree with

WTF are you channelling a 15 year old valley girl? Like.... totally.

So BLT, what is the right's position on flag burning?

I rest my case.

If she died in a car accident or anything else I would not give a dam!! That is how much I hate her family!

Posted by jrod54


You know, I used to hate them too. Now I just don't care. They could walk down my street wearing clowns suits and bozo wigs and I wouldn't give two shits.

I just want this scurge on America to fade into the background.

Hell I am embarrassed as hell to be a registered republican myself.

Why isn't Jenna's new husband Henry enlisted to serve in Iraq to fight his father-in-law's
pre-emptive war of choice?

What do you mean?

The ranks of the military are filled with millions of young GOPhers fresh fum boarding school and Ivy League Universities.

The last I heard the recruiting stations had to lock the doors they were getting so many trust fund children from the hamptons and upscale burbs banging down the doors to enlist.

When the government stopped publishing M-3 that was a warning about inflationary pressures, but the dipshits said "don't worry."

When the trade deficit exploded the dipshits said "don't worry."

When budget deficits pushed the debt cieling higher and higher the dipshits said "deficits don't matter."

Inflation for the passed decades has been held artificially low because of the cheap energy prices. Now that the cost of energy is exploding and pushing up the cost of everything the dipshits will be singing a different tune.

So? They are just freeloading scum sucking off of my tax dollars.

Why should I pay for them to sit back on their ass and not greet shoppers at Wal Mart?

So?

So he didn't stand while someone else said the pledge. Sounds like defiant to me.

Posted by Sniper

Goddamn, Sniper would side with the British during the Boston Tea Party.

They got suspended for not standing. That's the requirement...there is no requirement for reciting.

Posted by Pirate

Just remember that freedom isn't free. Of all the shit that goes on with students, this is what they are suspended for? I am sure that Comrade Stalin is smiling with glee at this one.

Wesley Snipes would like to know, then, why the hell Al Sharpton's not in jail.

Posted by rightisright

Not paying is a civil matter, not criminal.

What's the problem, especialy for you non-religous people?

Posted by Sniper

Have you been a retard all your life, or is this just a recent event?

It must take a lot of balls to kick someone when they are down huh?

One day a government official comes into your office and tells you that you are going to have to take every client that walks through your door.

More bullshit scarespeak from the right.

On things like health care profit is an unnecessary expense.


Danni, that is plain pinko commie talk. Of course that does not make a profit is not worth doing. Just like all the massive profits the US is recieving from the war in Iraq!

So Murphy,

Why is it okay to give China and their regime most favored nation trade status and embargo Cuba?

The only reason the US is in Iraq is OIL. That is it. 726--

Well--actually there were 22--no 23 reasons to go to Iraq--but who's counting?

Murphy

Lather rinse, repeat.

Oorah,

Good to know you and your family is safe. Good luck with the repairs.

The coffee-colored liquid has the consistency of motor oil and a strong ammonia smell.

Sounds like Starbucks is already offering this option.

On Wednesday afternoon, the House had just voted, 412 to 0, to pass H. Res. 1113, "Celebrating the role of mothers in the United States and supporting the goals and ideals of Mother's Day," when Rep. Todd Tiahrt (R-Kan.), rose in protest.

"Mr. Speaker, I move to reconsider the vote," he announced.

Rep. Kathy Castor (D-Fla.), who has two young daughters, moved to table Tiahrt's request, setting up a revote. This time, 178 Republicans cast their votes against mothers.



Seems pretty clear to me.

The Left has no morals.

From the party of Duke Cunningham, Tom Delay, Jack Abramoff, Scooter Libby, Richard Nixon, Jerry Lewis, Ted Stevens, Toetapper Widestance and George W. Bush.... priceless.

With all due respect Dave--the "LEFT" does not have a moral core of values--everything goes.

Keep right on beleiving that. It is just one more of the thousands of things the "right" is wrong about.

Ward, 57, a former Roman Catholic priest

Well that figures.

Andy,

You are exactly right, however when the W'04 campaign purchases fleece garments to give to campaign donors from Burma it sends a message that it is okay to enslave your people.

When the US Government freely allows outsourcing of jobs to communist China with equally oppressive human rights policies and grants it most favored naiton trade status simply because corporate america wants to profit from the slave wages in China it sends a message that it is okay.

Why is it okay to actively encourage business deals with China and do illegal business with Burma while putting an embargo on Cuba?

Why is it okay to invade Iraq on "humanitarian" reasons (BTW not the reason sold to the American public) but not to do so in Burma?

The only reason the US is in Iraq is OIL. That is it. Nothing else. If Iraq was the worlds leading exporter of rice the US military would not be there today.

Using America's military as an imperialist tool for Corporate America is immoral and should be illegal.

Here lately, democrats just suck when it comes to national security.

Posted by boaz


What flavor is the koolaid today?

WHEN DID THE MILITARY BECOME AN ARM OF THE REPUBLICIAN PARTY?"


January 2001.

McLame is the straight bullshit express.

Think about it when the Bushites Grandchildren start paying for their Grandparents mistakes it's gonna eat the Grandparents alive on the inside

Larry, like any republitard would ever make one of their elite pay for anything. Come on now, lets be serious here.

As a leader of this world, the United States cannot abandon either its responsibilities or its interests. To do so would invite grave peril for our immediate future.

Dean Pagliaro


Posted by dap244

You forgot to throw in a couple of killing them over there and 9/11 references.

Read "interests" as "oil".

Good justification for letting government steal for private industry from a sovereign nation though.

Ryker,

Research the percentage of college graduates vs non college graduates that have enlisted and get back to me on it.

For many many of our soldiers the military was the only way to further themselves since their socio economic status would not allow them to do so in the private sector.

I am sure that you will a great many PhD's and millionaires lining up to elist now don't you?

BTW, the truth is the truth. You can call it what you want, but it is still the truth. BTW you talk you must operate under the assumption that every single soldier out there is an Ivy League Graduate.

FEMA did not do great job but to blame it on a lack of response by Bush is BS

You're right, he did play a heckuva guitar solo and sang happy birthday to bagdad john mcbush while the levees were breaking.

Well, there might be a useful role for the Department of Energy, should we ever decide to adopt an actual energy policy.

You are seeing the fruition of Cheney's energy meetings in Iraq right now.

Of course....we have to take the money from somewhere....I suggest Department of Education.....

Posted by jonryker


Because if we educate our children they will not have to enlist to fight in our Corporate Wars.

The Bush administration opposes it, and so does Senator John McCain.


Surprise surprise!!!

What is even more enlightening is the majority of the republican party will stand behind this administration and baghdad bob mccain. It truely indicates who really support our troops.

Posted by moneywar


We cannot pay for education for our troops, they might not re enlist to fight in our Corporate Wars.

Sincerely,

The Right.

you can't really believe that this admin didn't reach a new level of abuse in this area.

Posted by midiman

Blind partisanship allows him to beleive anything this administration tells him.

Yes Vern, I am extremely jealous of how much of a tool you are.

Why is Herm an ass? Because he speaks the truth?

The truth is an unpleasant business, but it still is that the regime in Burma is every bit as bad as Iraq, but they have no oil so they are left alone.

Hell even W's campaign in 04 illegally bought sweatshirts to give to donors.

George,

Well he has to make sure that his buddies that manufactured the swag his campaign sold in 04 (illegally) were safe.

Vernon, is it possible for you not to be a tool for just one day?

In each case, the surveys have shown intolerable levels of political meddling, and collectively have documented the existence of hundreds of unhappy researchers across the government. But we were all waiting to hear about the agency that many have long suspected to harbor the worst problems--the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency, once the crown jewel of the regulatory system, but now, under administrator Stephen Johnson, increasingly viewed as a scandal-ridden and hopelessly compromised tool of the White House.



What a shock! [sarcasm]

Heckuva a job Lil Bush.

And who says the US is lawsuit crazy?

With the dems, anything goes.

Posted by Sniper


Same with the righties, except they will tell you they have more "family values" than the Dems will having extramarital affairs, soliticing sex in a public restroom and serving their wives with divorce papers in the recovery room after cancer surgery because they were boinking their interns.

So a person who is anti crime and then goes out and commits murder is a hypocrite? That's the problem? hmmm . . .

Posted by ElmoVanPeebles


Not in right wing retard world.

Of course I sure am glad that the right is "defending" marriage against the scurge of homosexuality by assaulting cocktail waitress that wouldn't give them a little hoochie coochie.

That passes for "morality" with you losers? No wonder this country is F-ed up.

Posted by dumb_as_rocks


That's right wing values for you. Morals for everyone else but me is their motto.

Yes of course, it must be his fault, he is the man.

Sad comentary on our misandrist society that he had to move out. Where does she get off staying in the governor's masion?

Let's hope this guy learns something from all this and then starts standing up for the rights of men.


Posted by member2586


Maybe you should have read the article.


Dawn Gibbons told the Las Vegas Review-Journal that she didn't ask Gibbons to move out, and that she has been trying to "make sure my marriage works." She also said she wants to continue performing her duties as first lady and needs to be in the mansion because that is her office and where her staff works. "I don't know what I'm supposed to do," she told the Las Vegas newspaper. "I don't know why he's divorcing me. All I'm trying to do is keep it together."

In my opinion he moved out because he finally found a cocktail waitress that did not file assault charges against him.

Because Muslims want to kill you, take your stuff, and force your children to convert.

Posted by fwthom


Spoken like a true pants pissing sheep.

They are land and resource grabs.

Posted by Georgeisadrunk

Yeah, and your point is?

So you see nothing wrong with invading a sovereign nation to steal it's resources?

How quaint.

There are several problems with doing this, numerous examples of how this has failed in the 20th century not to mention the immorality of doing so.

Not this one.

But as I said on a thread a few weeks ago, I drive slowly, no jackrabbit starts or stops, etc. That goes a long ways towards the longevity of a car IMO.


Absolutely right Goatman, also saves gas.

Read an article last night that in tests a Camry would get 40mpg on the highway at 55. At 75... 30 mpg.

If everyone drove 10 mph less on the highway America would save billions in fuel and that would translate into lower gas prices.

"I don't need this much space," McHugh said of his SUV. "It just seems ridiculous."

Why didn't it seem ridiculous when he bought it? Have his needs for space changed?

Posted by JOE


No, but now his irrational choice is costing him more money so all of a sudden it is "ridiculous".

Of course it was ridiculous when he bought it, but he was just buying into the hype of keeping up with the neighbors and the scare tactics of the auto industry citing them as "safer" than cars.

I have a friend who bought one of the biggest SUV's around when gas was $1.69 per gallon then had to hear him bitch and whine when it $3. But he would not dump it for a smaller car because of the "prestige" of having it. What a dope.

I look out into the parking lot of my building and 70% of the vehicles are SUV's. Most with one commuter, female who never ever ever take them off road or haul cargo. But they have bought into the "status" of owning one. Dopes.

You know it's funny. I was always under the impression that Country stood for Freedom. If that is the case what is wrong with the kid waving the Mexican Flag on Cinco De Mayo day??

Not when it comes to outward displays of patriotism.

Freedom of speech means that every citizen has the right to speak freely and openly even if you disagree with vehemently with the message.

Sadly to many people in this nation freedom of speech in their little minds means only speaking what is accepted by the majority.

My family has fought for the right for anyone to say what they want. My family has fought for the flag of the United States of America. We hold it near and dear to our hearts, but if someone wants to burn it in protest, well then that is their right. A right my family has put their lives on the line for and I will be goddamned if anyone is going to stop it.

If this kid wants to display the flag of his heritage, good for him. It is important to remember where you have come from. I have the flag of my ancestral homeland and I display it proudly on our national holidays.

Having the child remove it was a judgement call.

Throwing it in the trash was bad judgement.

Posted by JeffJ


And then taunting him about his heritage was horrendous judgement.

Funny i thought the aclu defended the teacher who burnt the American flag. Interesting, the side have changed, now we can sit back and watch the opinions reverse.

Posted by salamandagator


That is why you will never understand what the ACLU stands for. When you figure that out, it will make sense. Until that day, you will revile them like the rest of the rightwingbots.

If the teacher had taken a Bible and thrown that in the garbage would you still be defending his actions?

You don't screw the whole value system up because SOMETIMES jurors don't do their jobs right.


Yes, let's execute people because they MAY be guilty.

And it is not just jurors that don't do their jobs right. Google the Duke Lacross case if you wish.

I don't mind you pro-deathers being in favor of killing lots of people. You're not alone in that.

Yes, they have everyone on the right that is pro death penalty and pro war.

If you can prove the jury screwed up...get a retrial.

After you are dead, it is hard to get a new trial.

Years ago we could refine all of our own gas, now our demand is more than our old refineries can produce - also more cost to us.


Hope the Dems can 'legislate' us more capacity - lol

Posted by MSgt


Well Lil Bush did open up the closed military bases to the oil companies to build refineries on with no enviromental regulations. How many of the companies have taken Lil Bush up on that offer?

The lack of refinery construction is a cost/benefit analysis. If you can not build a refinery that will be useless in the next 50 years for a cost of hundreds of millions of dollars while at the same time earn more because supply is low sounds like good business sense.

726, at most, your post proves that both Democrats and Republicans are liars and failures. Is that your only point?

Posted by JOE


Yep. They are all, ALL fuckbags. That and to point out Kuma is a retard.

Actually it is Utah. Same difference except in Utah they have dental care.

Fredo,
Explain why you believe there can't be a difference.

Posted by evilpolock

Because in right wing world you are either right or wrong. It is either black or white. You either support the troops which means supporting every military action that the white house chooses to send them on or else you are a terrorist sympathizer.


Just for the sake of argument Freddie, did you support the mission in Bosnia?

Posted by Salaryman


Funny how that question goes unanswered. Must be because it was ordered by the evil murdering rapist president.

When you promote a grumpy old candidate for POTUS that even the biggest tool mouthpiece for the RNC cannot get behind then you have a very big problem.

While there is a small delay in seeing the result of impossible costs, the world will start seeing more and more desperate countries. This will mean violence in increasing amounts

It is already beginning.

The next wave of high inflationary pressures on chicken and pork are heading towards the American public.

That is sure to help out the recession.

No one plans to fail, just fails to plan. The idiots in this nation thought that cheap oil would last forever (I can name more than a few right wing mouthpieces that have said that). That kept real inflation artificially low. Well you can say goodbye to those days.

Good to see that at least some business here in the US is thriving.

Maybe next we can start landfilling used hypodermic needles from around the world.

And I suppose that no one has ever been falsely convicted of murder ever in the United States.

Nah, they are always 100% correct in the verdict.

Just because there is a known risk doesn't mean people aren't going to freak out when one of their own is gunned down.

Posted by Rob_The_A_Hole at


If a police officer in an urban setting is going to "freak out" when a fellow officer is shot, they should consider a different career.

Apologizing for facists is so en vogue right now.

If the Republicans got their way, we would not be in this mess today.


What part of six years of unopposed power do you not understand?

Are you this big of a retard in real life?

I don't care about Republicans because they never said they'd do anything about gas prices.

Really?

Mr. Bush was critical of Al Gore in the 2000 campaign for being part of "the administration that's been in charge" while the "price of gasoline has gone steadily upward." In December 1999, in the first Republican primary debate, Mr. Bush said President Clinton "must jawbone OPEC members to lower prices."

'I would use the capital my administration will earn with the Kuwaitis or the Saudis, to convince them to open up the spigot,' Bush said. 'That's where we will get immediate relief.'" [Houston Chronicle, 6/28/00]

Florida never ceases to amaze me.

Then of course there are the rightwingretards (tm) that defend the school district blindly.

Good job.

Not only was this group of nuns disenfranchised, but so would be four floors of retired nuns in their convent.


You can thank retarded republicans for that one.

Vern,

What ever happened to $30 per barrell?

And his "dittoheads" are even worse.


The term "dittohead" says all I need to know about the tools on the right that listen to that fool.

Nixon was stuck with executing a bad decision.

I call bullshit.

Danni,

The Bush criminal cabal is becoming less and less relevant every day as evidenced by Lil Bush's appearance on "Deal or no deal". What a fuckwad. Instead of working towards solving the fucking mess he created in Iraq he is just biding his time until he can clear brush in Crawford permanently.

I still see in the end Lil Bush getting his way after throwing a temper tantrum.

Libs like 726 think that life in prison is worse than death. You have got to be shiting me!

You did not read my entire post.

I did pass a big stool this morning so I could have been shitting you.

If the Gay Old Party cannot field a candidate that can beat Obama and have to interfere with the democratic primary that is pretty pathetic.

Gramps McCain is a sad remnant of the power these corrupt assholes once held.

Tom Delay used to speak of how he would make the Democratic party "irrelevant". I laugh at how his party's own greed, corruption and arrogance has done to the Gay Old Party what he could not do to the Democrats.

"so that you can murder this innocent black man"

For that reason alone he should be allowed to rot in prison, every day just as monotonous as the last.

Death is too good for him. He should have to shovel snow in the artic circle.

Good riddance.

Anyone named bush or clinton should be showed the door. Both have wrecked this nation.

So what is different this time?

Lil Bush will throw a temper tantrum, veto it.

The sheep in Congress will not override and then cave in to the little emperor's demands.

Nothing more than showmanship at it's finest.