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Drudge Retort: The Other Side of the News
Sunday, May 05, 2024

"The recent coverage of college campuses reminded me of an important life lesson. I don't know about you, but the coverage started frustrating and angering me. So, I've been trying to abstain from the sensationalist headlines and rage porn saturating my newsfeed. Did you know that there are stories that don't involve pepper bullets, riots, antisemitism, Islamophobia, mass arrests, and violence? In fact, several colleges don't involve *any* police action whatsoever. Take a moment and read what's happening at Brown, Middlebury, and UVM. Rather than allow tensions to fester and escalate, some college administrations agreed to"gasp"meet with students and hear them out. Some colleges have ongoing discussions and negotiations, while others have reached agreements and ended the encampments."

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"You don't have to seek out obscure news sources to read about these events. The New York Times, CNN, and other major publications and platforms have covered these stories. I'm not saying that all campus disputes are the same, all students are righteous, all administrators are evil, and all demands are reasonable. Indeed, there are several examples of the contrary. Instead, I'm saying these riotous scenes demanding our attention are neither ubiquitous nor inevitable. Moreover, it's incredible what people can accomplish with genuine, good-faith dialogue. Undoubtedly, Middlebury and Brown are "unsexy" compared to Colombia and UCLA. However, this asymmetry in coverage serves as a good reminder that our algorithms purposely cultivate rage. When your blood pressure rises after reading or watching something, take a step back and recognize how that emotional manipulation negatively shapes your worldview. It's not healthy. And it's killing this world slowly."

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... Rather than allow tensions to fester and escalate, some college administrations agreed to"gasp"meet with students and hear them out. ...

Reminds me of what the CT State Police did during the BLM protests when a group shutdown I-84, a major interstate here in Connecticut).

Instead of forcibly removing the protesters from the road, the state police gathered with the protesters, listened to what they were saying, and talked with them.

Soon after, everyone peaceably left the interstate and traffic flow resumed.


#1 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-05-03 04:31 PM | Reply

@#1

Having said that...

... meet with students and hear them out ...

A significant portion of the people who were arrested at Columbia Univ and CCNY were not students at the college.

Protesters unaffiliated with CCNY, Columbia made up nearly half of arrests: police
abc7ny.com

#2 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-05-03 04:34 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

@#2

More from the article cited in #2...

... Of the hundreds arrested during protests at City College of New York and Columbia University, police say nearly half of them were found to have no affiliation with the schools.

In a press conference on Wednesday, Mayor Eric Adams and NYPD officials announced that about 300 people were arrested overnight in intense protests at both city schools.

Approximately 134 of the 282 people taken into custody at Columbia University and CCNY were not affiliated with either school -- more than 47%. ...

"There were individuals on the campus that should not have been there," Adams said. "There were people who are professionals. We know the terminology 'outside agitator' was used during the Civil Rights movement, when people attempted to show that the movement was not legitimate, and we understand that."



#3 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-05-03 04:36 PM | Reply

Rather than allow tensions to fester and escalate, some college administrations agreed to"gasp"meet with students and hear them out. ...

So college admins should bow down to interlopers and instigators?

So if the number of "college" participants is taken into account its only what? Less than 1% of the colleges population?

And for this they demand running the colleges investments or what exactly?

Sounds like terrorism to me, a small collection of people holding a university hostage for its demands, which have nothing to do with conditions on campus.

Crazy.

When your blood pressure rises after reading or watching something, take a step back and recognize how that emotional manipulation negatively shapes your worldview.

LOL the protesters are the ones that are being manipulated.... Hilarious projection.

#4 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-05-03 04:50 PM | Reply

" Rather than allow tensions to fester and escalate, some college administrations agreed to"gasp"meet with students and hear them out. "

It's one thing for students to schedule a meeting with administrators to air grievances and make requests for change. It's another for cowardly leaders to bow down to demands made by rowdy, entitled students who feel everything they want should be handed to them.

#5 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-05-03 05:08 PM | Reply

interlopers and instigators?

Crazy.

#4 | POSTED BY ONEIRONAUT

You're making me believe that you are a Chinese/Russian troll a little more every day. In the US, peaceful protest has been an acceptable condition for most citizens, since the penning of the 1st Amendment. The Chinese, the Russians, and US Conservatives obviously see such protest as something to be squashed.

At least, it's not so crazy that a non citizen conservative such as yourself would disapprove.

It's one thing for students to schedule a meeting with administrators to air grievances and make requests for change.

#5 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

You think the administrators would have even considered them if the protests hadn't started first? Now that's crazy. But I might get a more honest answer out of you (or not)... As I've posted evidence here before that much of the violence at protests is agitated by right wingers, why does the right so hate peaceful protest?

#6 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2024-05-03 05:49 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"Sounds like terrorism to me, a small collection of people holding a university hostage for its demands,..."

That is an extremely odd position to take.

These protests are the epitome of grass roots democracy in action.

Common folk banded together on an issue to get their voices heard and negotiated with the powers that be to enact change.

You want to know what IS terrorism and doesn't get talked about in that way? MAGA

Republican politicians have stated that they have changed their votes/positions for fear of violent retaliation from MAGAts.

That is the definition of terrorism.

#7 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-05-03 06:06 PM | Reply

"...to demands made by rowdy, entitled students who feel everything they want should be handed to them."

#5 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

Where did this happen? Most of the protests had specific, realistic demands (though often expressed in less than optimal ways).

Or do you just have a problem with young people banding together to impact the injustices they see around them?

We've been here before a 1,000 times

Come mothers and fathers
Throughout the land
And don't criticize
What you can't understand
Your sons and your daughters
Are beyond your command
Your old road is rapidly agin'
Please get out of the new one
If you can't lend your hand
For the times they are a-changin

#8 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-05-03 06:10 PM | Reply

The more they change..... The more they..stay the same?

#9 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2024-05-03 06:38 PM | Reply

@#7 ... These protests are the epitome of grass roots democracy in action.

Common folk banded together on an issue to get their voices heard and negotiated with the powers that be to enact change. ...

Band together, or agitate disruption?

If the overwhelming majority of the protesters at Columbia and CCNY had been students, I'd have a very different view (having protested when I was in college).

But it looks like the protests are driven mostly by ~outside agitators~ that aim for disruption, not discussion.

Who are these agitators and what country may be sponsoring their efforts?

#10 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-05-03 07:17 PM | Reply

"You're making me believe that you are a Chinese/Russian troll a little more every day."

You give these idiots too much credit.

Clowns like oderous, stinker bell, robson, etc., have just found a tiny corner of the internet where people are stupid enough to give their idiocy validation by responding...seriously, what kind of loser spends all day on an insignificant internet news blog "trolling the libs"????

It's that simple.

#11 | Posted by Angrydad at 2024-05-04 08:25 AM | Reply

ANGRYDAD

They're taking advantage of their First Amendment rights which, ironically, are the same Freedom of the Press right that Trump wants to destroy when he trashes the Constitution.

Not too bright, are they?

#12 | Posted by Twinpac at 2024-05-04 09:51 AM | Reply

MAGATS are scum

#13 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2024-05-04 11:23 PM | Reply

Tangentially related...

Explainer: How US campus protests over Gaza differ from Vietnam war era
www.reuters.com

... A deep generational divide, anti-war protests on college campuses and a looming Chicago Democratic convention invite comparisons between today's protests against Israel's attacks in Gaza and the movement against the Vietnam War.

The 54th anniversary of the Kent State University shooting on Saturday, marks the day when the Ohio National Guard troops sent to quell campus protests shot 13 students, killing four and unleashing a surge of unrest across the country.

The campus protests over the past two weeks differ in both scale and motivation. Student bodies have changed, as has the Democratic Party. But given the tight rematch incumbent President Joe Biden, a Democrat, faces with Republican Donald Trump, they could hold political sway.

DEATH TOLLS

By 1970, the Vietnam War had been raging for five years, and Republican President Richard Nixon had announced an expansion of the war into Cambodia. By the end of 1970, nearly 1.8 million young American men had been enlisted and nearly 30,000 had died.

There are no U.S. troops fighting in Israel's war in Gaza, but many U.S. citizens have lost family members there. ...

[emphasis mine]

Crosby, Stills, Nash, and Young - Ohio (1970)
www.youtube.com

Lyrics excerpt...

genius.com

...
[Chorus]
Tin soldiers and Nixon coming
We're finally on our own
This summer I hear the drumming
Four dead in Ohio

[Verse]
Gotta get down to it
Soldiers are cutting us down
Should have been done long ago
What if you knew her
And found her dead on the ground
How can you run when you know?

Tin soldiers and Nixon coming
We're finally on our own
This summer I hear the drumming
Four dead in Ohio
...




#14 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-05-05 02:50 PM | Reply

Under my administration protesters will be shot ...
-a certain Dotard, in about a week, to a cheering audience of trained seals in red hats

#15 | Posted by catdog at 2024-05-05 02:50 PM | Reply

@#15 ... protesters will be shot ...

Former Pentagon chief Esper says Trump asked about shooting protesters (May 2022)
www.npr.org

... Esper said he and other top officials were caught off guard by Trump's reaction to the unrest in the summer of 2020.

"The president was enraged," Esper recalled. "He thought that the protests made the country look weak, made us look weak and 'us' meant him. And he wanted to do something about it.

"We reached that point in the conversation where he looked frankly at [Joint Chiefs of Staff] Gen. [Mark] Milley and said, 'Can't you just shoot them, just shoot them in the legs or something?' ... It was a suggestion and a formal question. And we were just all taken aback at that moment as this issue just hung very heavily in the air." ...


#16 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-05-05 03:17 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"So college admins should bow down to interlopers and instigators?"

You call the Tienanmen Square protesters interlopers and instigators, that's funny. You are well trained.

#17 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-05-07 11:53 AM | Reply

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