But you were fine with Trump saying Obama wasn't an American or that Hillary was a crook. Your indignation now is sort of hilarious. Traitor Trump appreciates your lying for him though.
#39 | Posted by danni at 2019-08-24 10:37 AM
Why do you insist on lying, danni? Isn't the truth enough to make your point anymore?
If you have any evidence of that, please post it.
You'll see I actually posted the evidence of my statement. You continue to lie and post ignorance with nothing for evidence.

If it's all untrue Mr. Trump then reveal your tax returns and prove it. - #38 | Posted by danni at 2019-08-24 10:34 AM

"If You Have Nothing To Hide You Have Nothing to Fear" - Joseph Goebbels.
Liberals coming full circle, folks.

Why don't "conservatives" want to deal with the root cause of the vast discrepancy in wealth between people who are the descendants of slaveholders and people who are the descendants of slaves? Maybe because it's easier to blame blacks for their own plight.
#28 | Posted by WhoDaMan at 2019-08-24 01:35 AM
Do you have any data on the 'discrepancy in wealth between people who are the descendants of slaveholders and people who are the descendants of slaves?'
I'd be interested in taking a look at it. Considering how many descendants of slaveholders are also descendants of slaves, I imagine it would have been an incredibly difficult to formulate that data.

I know that I'm a descendant of both slave and slave-owner. I look forward to seeing where my wealth or lack-thereof will fit into that 'vast discrepancy'.

That only counts when there's a Democratic president:
"Were Ginsburg to leave the court prior to the 2020 election or even the inauguration, Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell has made clear the GOP would move immediately to fill the vacancy. That would ensure a 6-to-3 conservative majority on the court, all but guaranteeing a conservative grip on the court for decades to come." - #7 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-08-23 10:32 PM

That's partisan crap. I expected better of you.
He stated that that only counts when there is a mismatch between the political party of the Senate Majority Leader and the President.

McConnell indicated during an interview with Fox News that which party controls the Senate and the White House is a crucial factor in determining if a vacancy gets filled.

"You have to go back to 1880s to find the last time a Senate controlled by a party different from the president filled a vacancy on the Supreme Court that was created in the middle of a presidential election year," he said.

He's consistently held this stance, and a 2020 SC vacancy would not fall into those criteria.

he also noted in a February 2016 floor speech that it had been 130 years since "a nominee was confirmed in similar circumstances," referring to divided government.

They also started the Klan. Then they all became republicans.
If a Democrat wins the presidency. I expect these camps to get shut down.
If Trump wins, the camps will keep chugging along.
#306 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-08-23 12:55 PM
Your ridiculous theory is that all of the democrats from 2016 turned into Republicans in 2017?
Have you no intellectual honesty you're willing to make use of?

Per your logic every president has overseen death camps because there have been prisons in America. - #299 | Posted by Tor at 2019-08-23 12:17 PM
No, people who have been subjected to due process, as the constitution guarantees, being placed in prisons, isn't the same as a death camp.
We're talkin about camps where people are being sent before they've been given their day in court/undergone due process.
You can see the concentration camp photos of kids in cages back in 2014. Those kids weren't subject to due process then, and aren't being given it today.

These concentration camps didn't suddenly become concentration camps in January 2017. One party, Democrats, are responsible for starting these vile things. One party, Republicans, continues to do so.
How can any honorable, moral, or ethical person cast their vote for either of the parties that brought or maintain this Nazi-style behavior in America?

We'll all make sure not to vote for him in 2020.
But you? You're voting Trump! The man who stepped up incarcerations and family separations.
#300 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-08-23 12:18 PM |

No, I didn't vote Trump in 2016. I don't expect I'll vote for him in 2020.
Of course, I also won't vote for the party which started the Nazi-style concentration camps.
We are merely by discussing the de facto head of the Democratic party, the most recent Democrat President, starting Nazi-style concentration camps. When a political party has been tainted by a Nazi president (in 2014 to today), as you've all proven in this discussion, there is no way that I would consider voting for one of them.
Are you going to vote for one of the 2 Nazi parties, Clownshack?

As some person once said:

Do you honestly feel these detention centers are even remotely comparable to the Holocaust?
"Even remotely"? Absolute. Perhaps you should educate yourself on them. #32 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-08-22 08:58 PM

Much the same way as people currently don't care what's happening to the people being separated and incarcerated at our borders since back in 2014. #37 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-08-22 09:15 PM

Just because you add the word "Nazi" to "concentration camp", it doesn't change the meaning of the word "concentration camp". - #68 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-08-22 09:46 PM

Yes, we get it. Democrats started concentration camps and shall forevermore be tainted by that indelible stain.

What say you, Clownshack. Are you going to vote for the party that brought concentration camps back to America? Or the party that continues the tradition?
Or perhaps you'll join me and vote for a candidate who hasn't brought the Nazi-concentration camp stain to life in America?

Yes they are concentration camps. They are identical to the ones Hitler started back in the mid to late 1930's. If this bothers you so much. Good. Then fight against them.
#295 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2019-08-23 10:34 AM
Refreshingly direct comparison between Hitler, who started concentration camps in the 1930s, and Obama, who started his concentration camps in 2014.

Prices are higher at the Navy Exchange than some other local gas stations. That's usually what happens when prices are coming down. The NEX is notoriously slow to reflect lower prices. I'm not sure if it is because they buy in bulk and sell it slower or what. Either way, $2.27ish in Hampton Roads.

Ok, you've all convinced me. The Nazi-style concentration camps that Obama began and Trump has continued are a sure sign that Democrats and Republicans are definitely Nazis.
Good job.
I fully expect all of you to denounce Democrats and Republicans (if Bernie voted for the budget any time since 2014, I expect him to be pariah as well) with fervor going forward.
Join me in voting for someone who, unlike Democrats or Republicans, has never voted for America to have Nazi-style concentration camps since 2014.

You don't like that the states elect the president.
Ok.
You'll need to push an amendment to resolve it.
Or potentially just updating the number of representatives per person in the states. That would also serve the dual purpose of diluting the effect of monied interests (in the House anyway) on government practices.
I can just image how long the congressional hearings are going to last when each lawmaker gets 2.3 seconds to pose questions or schedules interviews for a month at a time.

Yes, an element of an electoral system that sometimes operates to thwart the will of the voters does get more complaints when it actually does that thing. Any other genius observations?
#57 | Posted by JOE at 2019-08-22 09:04 PM
Which state's electoral voters thwarted the will of their voters?

Hell - felons, domestic abusers and the mentally ill can purchase cars.

Are you claiming that the DoJ did not determine that the evidence developed during the Special Counsel's investigation is not sufficient to establish that the President committed an obstruction-of-justice offense, or that you know more about the subject than the DoJ?

I just want clarity before I reply.

You may as well try to incorporate a change to the 2nd amendment while you're working to get the 1st changed to allow that plan to take effect, hatter5183.

If guns were regulated like cars, there might be fewer shootings of innocents. You would seem to have refuted your own argument. Good job.
#44 | Posted by john47 at 2019-08-22 11:42 AM
No age requirement to purchase a car.
No licensing requirement to purchase a car.
No insurance requirement to purchase a car.
No background check requirement to purchase a car.
You can legally purchase a car across state lines.
No limit where you can carry a car.
No inspection requirements to purchase a car.
No tracking requirement to purchase a car.

You sure about that, john47?

DO you think a criminal president accused of crimes, for which the Department of Justice determined insufficient evidence exists to indict, should be allowed to keep his job?
#22 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-08-22 01:12 PM

Fixed for honesty.

Yes, Congress did ceded power to the executive. The majority made a decision to do so. The majority has said 'this is how we want it to be'. You're now arguing that the way that the majority chose it to be is 'tyranny of the minority'...when it was the majority who chose it to be that way.

Look Joe, the majority says 'it's going to be this way, we want control by the minority but we can take it back whenever we like'.
You're claiming that this ^^^ is tyranny by the minority.

You're wrong.

Through appointing cabinet heads and the rulemaking process they can implement policies that affect every single American. Stop being so intentionally ignorant Jeff.
#34 | Posted by JOE at 2019-08-22 10:52 AM
Cabinet heads and rules changes still only work to provide guidance on the laws put in place by the Congress...and only with a consent of the majority. Had Congress not chosen to cede power to the Executive, even that capability would not exist. The majority chose to cede authority (something they can still undo) and now you're claiming that the decision by the majority allows governance by the minority.

confirm federal judges
judges have no power to govern. They can merely interpret the rules set forth by....wait for it....the majority.
Both of your arguments fail on logical grounds, I'm afraid.

Article dated June 2017?

Of course if man is doing it, it's not natural. - #78 | Posted by goatman at 2019-08-21 01:47 PM

Not to break the flow of the discussion too much, but at what point did humanity lose its place as a part of nature? If a beaver makes a dam it is natural, but if a man makes a dam it is not? How are we making use of the tools that evolution provided us any different than other animals making use of tools that evolution provided them?

The definition includes 'state of nature untouched by the influences of civilization and society', but that would mean that most primates aren't natural - they certainly have a society. Lots of animals exist in their own society, does that mean that vegetation destroyed by zebras is unnatural?

Not really making a point with all this, just some general questioning.

The 2nd Amendment as interpreted by gun nuts is a lie and a joke. A joke that kills. I just got back from Europe two days ago. More than any single issue, they are blown away at our complete unwillingness to get a handle on gun violence in America.
#46 | Posted by moder8 at 2019-08-21 01:49 PM

1/3 of Americans own guns.
1/3 of Swiss own guns.
America has 3x as many murders with guns than Switzerland.
America 250x the murder rate.