Drudge Retort: The Other Side of the News
Monday, July 22, 2019

In the video Op-Ed above, children read testimonies given by young migrants detained in Customs and Border Protection facilities. They reveal harrowing stories of children living in cages, going hungry and tending to infants without their parents.

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Please use this bucket to catch all your Crocodile tears after watching this video.

-The Management

#1 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-07-21 09:16 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Using children as cudgels.

#2 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-07-21 09:19 PM | Reply

We appreciate you two showing your true colors.

#3 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-07-21 09:22 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 7

- showing your true colors.

You mean about emotional blackmail? Yeah, it's disgusting.

#4 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-07-21 09:24 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Keep digging, it's who you are.

#5 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-07-21 09:26 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

What good are letters from children unless read by other children to dramatic music?
Is there any other purpose in this video other than reporting news? It appears so - emotional blackmail.

If it's just a news story, then print them, and explain how NYT came into possession of the them. Are they even genuine?

#6 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-07-21 09:32 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2


@#2 ... Using children as cudgels. ...

Pres Trump is using those children as pawns in his re-election campaign.

Maybe it is time that we hear what those children, who are being used, think about what is happening to them?

The memories that Pres Trump is forcing upon these children will be with them for the rest of their lives.


#7 | Posted by LampLighter at 2019-07-21 09:36 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1


@#6 ... It appears so - emotional blackmail ...

So, you are beginning to see what the children are enduring.

That's a good first step.

If you don't like what we (the United States) are doing to these children, maybe you should work to change it?

Or do you think the Unites States is a Country that routinely abuses children in such a manner?


#8 | Posted by LampLighter at 2019-07-21 09:38 PM | Reply

Using children as human shields for their open borders advocacy: nothing new for Democrats. They do the same thing with healthcare, education, global warming, etc.

#9 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-07-21 09:41 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3


@#9 ... Using children as human shields for their open borders advocacy ...

Pres Trump is heartlessly using children as pawns for his re-election campaign. That is the root cause of this problem.

Why are you criticizing those who want to assuage the suffering of children? You should be criticizing Pres Trump for using the children as he is doing.

Or are you, like most Republicans, afraid to criticize Pres Trump?


#10 | Posted by LampLighter at 2019-07-21 09:50 PM | Reply

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Using children as human shields for their open borders advocacy: nothing new for Democrats. They do the same thing with healthcare, education, global warming, etc.

POSTED BY NULLIFIDIAN AT 2019-07-21 09:41 PM | REPLY

Aren't you just a concern troll?? Your pal Andrea won't like that.

#11 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2019-07-21 10:00 PM | Reply

showing your true colors.
You mean about emotional blackmail? Yeah, it's disgusting.
POSTED BY SHEEPLESCHISM AT 2019-07-21 09:24 PM | REPLY | FLAGGED NEWSWORTHY BY RIGHTOCENTER

^
Keep flagging, it's who you are.

#12 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-07-21 10:04 PM | Reply

The plight of these children needs to be addressed. It must be stopped immediately. The GOP used to pretend to care about children. Now it's time to show it.

I dare the negative posters to watch the video and read the article. Children cannot protect themselves. We must take care of them.

I won't accept politicization of this matter.

#13 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2019-07-21 11:51 PM | Reply

- I won't accept politicization of this matter.

Email the NY Times. They're the ones politicizing these children by doing a dramatic reading video.

Here's what's happening: tens of thousands of people are running willy-nilly over our border and once caught, the first order of business is to sort out who's who. Snoofy doesn't want to address how that's accomplished exactly. He pretends like you're just supposed to believe whatever someone running across the border tells you. Snoofy and Clownshack don't care if the child has been kidnapped, trafficked, drug through the desert, or bought by traffickers. Snoofy just wants them released into the wild to wander into Phoenix on there own.

Once the US detains them, we're liable. Unless you want lawyer activists to start seeing the US for hundreds of millions because one or two kids were brought into the country against their will, and the US did NOTHING to try and figure out if they were with a parent or a kidnapper, then the best course of action is to try and figure it out, then get them back with their parent, or in the case of unaccompanied minors which now number in the tens of thousands - cis.org - are placed in foster care as soon as possible.

The system is overwhelmed. That has been done intentionally to create this crisis. I have a tremendous amount of empathy for their plight, but let's get this straight - The Democratic Party has sat on their hands and are cheering this crisis on, to humiliate Trump, and to push their open borders policy.

The article is behind a paywall, Bruce, but this video is an emotional blackmail piece, not journalism, and is intended to use the kids as political pawns.

I find that disgusting.

#14 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-07-22 12:18 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 4

If you don't have feelings you can't be emotionally blackmailed.

#15 | Posted by Zed at 2019-07-22 07:35 AM | Reply

Hear that? Trumpites won't allow children to be politicized.

#16 | Posted by Zed at 2019-07-22 07:37 AM | Reply

Trumpanzees use these stories as spank bank material.

#17 | Posted by Nixon at 2019-07-22 07:43 AM | Reply

How dare you release a video that makes these children seem like real people? You are ruining our attempts to paint them as dehumanized animals. Liberals are so mean and unfair. If you keep doing this, we will vote for Trump again just to spite you.

-Republicans

#18 | Posted by gtbritishskull at 2019-07-22 08:00 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

If you don't like what we (the United States) are doing to these children, maybe you should work to change it?

We are. We are working to make sure their parents dont break the law. We are trying to make sure their parents dont send them with coyotes or drug smugglers. We are trying to stop these people from overwhelming our systems.

Maybe you should be honest with yourself about what's really going on..

#19 | Posted by boaz at 2019-07-22 08:12 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Jesus wept.

#20 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2019-07-22 08:37 AM | Reply

#1, 2, 9

And yet you're shocked when people treat you poorly. You don't deserve better.

#21 | Posted by jpw at 2019-07-22 08:49 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#14 that's a funny way to say you enjoy their torture. You would be at home in the cell next to Epstein.

#22 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2019-07-22 09:22 AM | Reply

...deaths at the U.S.-Mexico border decreased after Donald Trump became president, according to data from the United States Border Patrol. During the 2017 and 2018 fiscal years they averaged 291 per year, down from 372 during the Obama/Biden administration and 382 under Bush.

www.cbp.gov

#23 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-07-22 09:27 AM | Reply

The bloated------------ prefers migrant children who are floating face down because they can't speak.

www.seattletimes.com

#24 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2019-07-22 09:35 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

If you've spent any time around a child (including, honestly, up to teenagers) you will know they need our help and kindness.

#25 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2019-07-22 09:44 AM | Reply

"deaths at the U.S.-Mexico border decreased"

This torture is lifelong harm to them mentally and physically

#26 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2019-07-22 09:45 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Where is the line drawn Bruce? Why isnt their home counties helping them?

We cant take in the world, it all wont fit in the U.s.

#27 | Posted by boaz at 2019-07-22 09:46 AM | Reply

"Where is the line drawn Bruce?"

We have the lines drawn. Use our own rules. On top of those, use internationally agreed upon laws.

Why do you feel the need to lie? If you need to lie, then you're wrong. Nobody is arguing for open borders.

Here is the way to treat those children: as of they were our own, brought into a situation they couldn't control, away from everything they know, afraid.

#28 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2019-07-22 09:50 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

On top of those, use internationally agreed upon laws.

They why arent we shipping some of these kids and "refugees" to other nations?

Here is the way to treat those children: as of they were our own, brought into a situation they couldn't control, away from everything they know, afraid.

But they arent our own. It all starts with the parents.

#29 | Posted by boaz at 2019-07-22 10:30 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

"It all starts with the parents."

When someone committs a crime, do we send their son to the death chamber?

#30 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2019-07-22 10:38 AM | Reply

So when will illegal alien kids become characters on Sesame Street?

Not an official left wing cause until then...

#31 | Posted by Pegasus at 2019-07-22 10:39 AM | Reply

"But they arent our own."

If you're in America, you belive that our rights are given to us by God. They are not yours to take away.

#32 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2019-07-22 10:39 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

But they arent our own. It all starts with the parents.

#29 | POSTED BY BOAZ AT 2019-07-22 10:30 AM | FLAG:

Jesus is still weeping, Boaz.

#33 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2019-07-22 10:40 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

We have the lines drawn. Use our own rules. On top of those, use internationally agreed upon laws.
Why do you feel the need to lie? If you need to lie, then you're wrong. Nobody is arguing for open borders.
Here is the way to treat those children: as of they were our own, brought into a situation they couldn't control, away from everything they know, afraid.

#28 | POSTED BY BRUCEBANNER

Not one single suggestion on solving the problem in any of your posts. Not one. Your entire premise is taking the moral high ground, using a dramatic reading by children, and casting shame. You're using the children on the video, who don't even fully understand the situation, to read letters supposedly written by other children who don't understand what's happening, to extort a reaction using emotional blackmail. That's not a solution, it's a cudgel.

The political abuse is coming from you and the NY Times.

" Nobody is arguing for open borders."

Then what's the solution, Bruce? Spit it out. Release them in downtown Albuquerque at a McDonald's playground??

We're talking about something like 10,000 to 15,000 kids who have arrived unaccompanied. These kids haven't been separated from the parents by the US, they arrived alone. What are you going to place 15,000 minors, Bruce?

#34 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-07-22 10:43 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"Not one single suggestion on solving the problem in any of your posts. "

Here is the solution: go back to Obama policies. We limit immigration but treat people kindly as we listen to them then politely show them the door.

#35 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2019-07-22 10:47 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#34 you and the rest of the Trump soulless are making a fake argument. You created the problem. Just go back to Obama policy. There is no party that supports open borders or even unlimited immigration. Your lies have led to crimes against humanity.

#36 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2019-07-22 10:49 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

But they arent our own. It all starts with the parents.

#29 | POSTED BY BOAZ

So, you should be ecstatic about this. Will you join us in opposing Sheeple in his criticisms of this video?

These parents need to know that the US will torture any children that we get our hands on to punish the parents for their crimes (collective punishment... its a war crime, but that's never stopped Republicans before). There is no point in torturing kids to discourage their parents, so this video should help you accomplish your goals.

Though, it seems that illegal immigration and requests for asylum have gotten worse under Trump, even with him dehumanizing and inflicting collective punishment on the immigrants as well the asylum seekers. Nevermind, who wants to look at pesky facts and statistics anyways.

Boaz, we look forward to you supporting the New York Times in making more of these videos and making sure they are widely distributed.

#37 | Posted by gtbritishskull at 2019-07-22 10:50 AM | Reply

The system is overwhelmed. What is Obama's policy for 15,000 unaccompanied minors?

If they're not held near the border, where do they go, Bruce?

#38 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-07-22 10:50 AM | Reply

- the US will torture any children that we get our hands on to punish the parents for their crimes (collective punishment... its a war crime, #37 | POSTED BY GTBRITISHSKULL

A complete fabrication in it's entirety.

Prove it. Right now. Show us the torture.

#39 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-07-22 10:52 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

#38 Trump broke the system and the answer is torture of children?

I will repeat. Go back to Obama policies, which actually worked.

#40 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2019-07-22 10:52 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#38 the children were not alone. they were stripped away from their parents, often forever.

#41 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2019-07-22 10:53 AM | Reply

You're not going to get away with making false claims. These kids shouldn't be used as a political football.

If you have Abu Garib photos from the border, provide them and I will stand with you in outrage.

If you're fabricating emotional extortion evidence, you'll be called out.

#42 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-07-22 10:54 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

You have to be a special kind of evil to go online and pretend a baby walked here from Guatemala to cross the border and claim asylum so they could go on to take a job washing your bathroom floor.

#43 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2019-07-22 10:55 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#42 liar

#44 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2019-07-22 10:55 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Again and again, liberals stand up to defend American values. Protect the weak.

#45 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2019-07-22 10:56 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I will repeat. Go back to Obama policies, which actually worked.
#40 | POSTED BY BRUCEBANNER

#38 the children were not alone. they were stripped away from their parents, often forever.
#41 | POSTED BY BRUCEBANNER

--------. I gave you the link in #14 - 15,000 kids unaccompanied.

The child separation policy ended a year ago. What is Obama's policy for handling 15,000 unaccompanied kids, Bruce.

Link to that policy right now.

#46 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-07-22 10:56 AM | Reply

Then what's the solution, Bruce? Spit it out. Release them in downtown Albuquerque at a McDonald's playground??

#34 | POSTED BY SHEEPLESCHISM

Its gotten much worse under Trump. He is making it necessary to (as just happened) allocate billions more dollars to handle them.

What we should be doing is using foreign policy to try to help these countries remain stable so that people don't feel like they need to flee them. But, Trump is doing the opposite. Republicans are cutting foreign aid to the ones that have the most refugees, and helping destabilize others (Venezuela). Its almost like they are doing their best to CAUSE refugees, so they can "wag" the idiot Republican base (for convenience's sake, lets just call them "sheeple").

#47 | Posted by gtbritishskull at 2019-07-22 10:57 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

- and pretend a baby walked here from Guatemala to cross the border and claim asylum

You pretend a baby wrote a letter being read by NYT?

You pretend there are any babies in detainment? Show me right now. Liar.

#48 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-07-22 10:58 AM | Reply | Funny: 2

- But, Trump is doing the opposite. Republicans are cutting foreign aid to the ones that have the most refugees,

Why throw hundreds of millions at a country when that country is already creating waves of migrants numbering in the tens of thousands?

#49 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-07-22 10:59 AM | Reply

This is blatant emotional blackmail.

Any where you care to look in America, there are an abundance of children living in automobiles and homeless shelters who live with disadvantageous on a daily basis that are the antithesis of what we think life in the USA should be.

This is a vile attempt at vote pandering...by both sides.

#50 | Posted by 1947steamer at 2019-07-22 11:00 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Show the photos of kids being tortured and babies in detention.

Where are they, because if they exist I want to team up with you in protest.

#51 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-07-22 11:01 AM | Reply

The child separation policy ended a year ago. What is Obama's policy for handling 15,000 unaccompanied kids, Bruce.
Link to that policy right now.

#46 | POSTED BY SHEEPLESCHISM

Elect a Democrat.

They seem to have no problem handling them (though Obama did get overwhelmed for a bit when there was a huge influx, but we were able to adapt to it pretty quickly).

Only Republicans manufacture crises such as these (not saying a real crisis does not exist, just saying Republicans, probably intentionally, caused and exacerbated it) and then whine like little snowflakes that its "hard" and that "no one knew it was this complicated" and say that its all the other party's fault because they are "sitting on their hands". If you can't govern (as you have shown you can't) then don't run for the position.

#52 | Posted by gtbritishskull at 2019-07-22 11:02 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

And as always, leave it to the music to cut to the chase....

"Share it fairly...but don't take a slice of my pie"

..PF..

#53 | Posted by 1947steamer at 2019-07-22 11:05 AM | Reply

Elect a Democrat.
They seem to have no problem handling them

LOL - I'm CERTAIN the problem would go away. IMMEDIATELY!

In fact, the media would never cover it again.

Except for the heartwarming puff piece from Good Morning America showing kids watching cartoons.

#54 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-07-22 11:08 AM | Reply

"You pretend a baby wrote a letter being read by NYT?"

You didn't read this article or any of them. You prove it again and again.

#55 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2019-07-22 11:11 AM | Reply

"Hear the Words of Homeless Children in San Francisco..."

Something you'll never see from the mouthpiece of "The Resistance," the NY Times.

#56 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-07-22 11:12 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

Show the photos of kids being tortured and babies in detention.
Where are they, because if they exist I want to team up with you in protest.

#51 | POSTED BY SHEEPLESCHISM

How convenient you should ask for something you know that you will not get.

CBP is very careful about not letting anyone document the conditions they are keeping these people in. Don't you remember when AOC went down there (you posted on a thread about it A LOT). Though I doubt you listed to anything she said, you were too busy shrieking about how terrible she is and how much you hate her. Tor remind you, she said that CBP confiscated her phone (btw... this was A MEMBER OF CONGRESS touring the facility, and they made sure she could not document it) before they would let her into the facility. How are we supposed to get these pictures?

#57 | Posted by gtbritishskull at 2019-07-22 11:12 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

You provided a paywall article, so no I couldn't read it. I watched the video, it's fiction. White kids reading a letter that an adult handed them. They have no idea what's going on. This is blackmail

These are facts:

Here's the link again from #14, Bruce -
cis.org
www.cbp.gov

15,000- 20,000 UAC's - what was Obama's policy for those children in 2015-1016??

Waiting on those abuse videos. Waiting on the solution to the overwhelmed system. Unprecedented numbers.

#58 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-07-22 11:14 AM | Reply

How are we supposed to get these pictures?

#57 | Posted by gtbritishskull at 2019-07-22 11:12 AMFlag: (Choose)FunnyNewsworthyOffensiveAbusive

You're never supposed to get them.

Instead you're going to be taunted with the successful cover-up. That's the GOP way.

#59 | Posted by Zed at 2019-07-22 11:14 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Why are so many children fleeing their countries? Many of the immigrant children from El Salvador, Honduras, and Mexico are escaping extreme violence, often gang-related and fueled by the drug trade. A 2013 report by the UN High Commissioner for Refugees indicated that 63% of the immigrants from El Salvador, 43% of Hondurans, and 32% of Mexicans cited violence in society (mostly gang-related violence) as the reason for leaving. Violence in the home was another strong motivator, with statistics standing at 63% for El Salvador, 24% for Honduras, and 17% for Mexico. "Salvadoran and Honduran children ... come from extremely violent regions where they probably perceive the risk of traveling alone to the U.S. preferable to remaining at home," the report said. Guatemalan children cited deprivation (29%), violence in the home (23%), and violence in society (20%) as reasons for leaving their countries. Children in Honduras also cited poverty as reasons for leaving, while many girls from El Salvador reported fear of both home and gang-related sexual abuse.

Why is there suddenly so much violence in these countries?The drug trade, organized crime, gangs, and political instability are largely blamed for the uptick in violence. Political instability has allowed gangs and organized crime to thrive in Central America. In addition, many gangs that operated out of Mexico have moved to Central America when they were squeezed out by larger, more powerful drug cartels. Seeking to increase their numbers, gangs actively recruit children to sell or move drugs, and beat or kill those who refuse to join. In Honduras, as of 2014, the homicide rate is 74.6 for every 100,000 people, the highest in the world.


This is why children who can leave, leave.

Sending them back to join a gang is one option.

Helping to make their country livable is another option.

Torturing them is not an acceptable option to me or most Americans.

#60 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2019-07-22 11:16 AM | Reply

How convenient you should ask for something you know that you will not get.
CBP is very careful about not letting anyone document the conditions they are keeping these people in.
#57 | POSTED BY GTBRITISHSKULL

What we don't see, is the torture!!

Not such a great skull, Brit. Only the press was just there.

#61 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-07-22 11:16 AM | Reply

Waiting on those abuse videos. Waiting on the solution to the overwhelmed system. Unprecedented numbers.

#58 | POSTED BY SHEEPLESCHISM AT 2019-07-22 11:14 AM | REPLY | FLAG:

Just like RoC with this endless lie-don't listen to the retort loop

#62 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2019-07-22 11:18 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Torturing them is not an acceptable option to me or most Americans.
#60 | POSTED BY BRUCEBANNER

It's not acceptable to me either, Bruce.

If you can show me they're being tortured I will stand with you.

Convince me. You've got me concerned. Now show me.

What I won't do, is go ------- crazy over a fictional dramatic reading.

#63 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-07-22 11:19 AM | Reply

At this point Bruce, I want to stand with you in outrage, I just don't have the evidence yet.

#64 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-07-22 11:20 AM | Reply

It is not 'emotional blackmail' to confront America with the reality of the children suffering because they have been separated from their parents and are being held in rancid detention facilities. If you do think that reality is emotionally horrifying, stand up and speak out against it. Don't just whine about politics. Have no doubt, 50 years from now America will remember this chapter of our history in a very dark light.

#65 | Posted by moder8 at 2019-07-22 11:21 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Everyone who feels compassion for these children and "just doesn't know what they can do but it's so terrible and they just wish they could make it better"
Go to the Dollar Store...shampoo tooth paste/brush razor comb/brush
Go to the grocery store...canned soup and vegetables ramen crackers
Take what you bought to a homeless shelter or a food bank

Everyone has multiple "someones" within easy reach that need a hand

#66 | Posted by 1947steamer at 2019-07-22 11:21 AM | Reply

LOL - I'm CERTAIN the problem would go away. IMMEDIATELY!
In fact, the media would never cover it again.

#54 | POSTED BY SHEEPLESCHISM

I would make some snarky comment about the media sources that are severely biased towards Republicans (Fox News, Washington Examiner, Breitbart, etc) and ask why they can't cover it, but you are actually probably right. We all know Republicans aren't intelligent enough to do real journalism (and you seem to be acknowledging it as well), so if the real media were biased toward the President then we WOULD probably never hear about it.

Its sorta like those claims that 2.3 million illegal immigrants voted in 2016. There was a commission and everything that was supposed to be investigating it. But the fact that they didn't find anything doesn't actually MEAN that it didn't happen. No... we all know that Republicans are just too stupid to investigate something like that effectively. Its such a sad trap. When all the smart people are "with Democrats" and Republican are made up of the "idiocracy", it means that Democrats get away with innumerable evil things because (*sigh*) Republicans are just too unintelligent to catch them.

If it were the other way around (Democrats could never find evidence of wrongdoing they claim Republicans are engaged in) then I would assume it would just mean we were wrong about the wrongdoing. But, then again, I am not part of the "idiocracy".

#67 | Posted by gtbritishskull at 2019-07-22 11:23 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Reading the comments, it seems like Trumpsters are in favor of anything that causes more human suffering or planetary degradation.

#68 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2019-07-22 11:24 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

At this point Bruce, I want to stand with you in outrage, I just don't have the evidence yet.

#64 | POSTED BY SHEEPLESCHISM AT 2019-07-22 11:20 AM | REPLY | FLAG:

I'm proud to be raised right. Whatever happened to you to make you such a -------? I'm not just talking about this one issue either. It's all of it.

The proof of the crimes and resulting suffering is all over the place. Many sources. Legitimate ones. This includes the border patrol.

#69 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2019-07-22 11:29 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Convince me. You've got me concerned. Now show me.

#63 | POSTED BY SHEEPLESCHISM

Convince of what?

That they are in overcrowded conditions? That they don't have access to basic hygiene? That they go hungry? That they were taken away from their parents for no good reason? That they are kept in cages for extended periods of time, with forced to sleep on the floor with the lights on?

You had someone in the Trump administration (Miller?) say that the reason they were separating the children from their parents was to punish them for coming here.

This is ALL well documented, and you are still asking. We all know that NO PROOF we could provide would EVER be enough for you (just like when Obama released his birth certificate). We all know your BS and its getting tiring.

#70 | Posted by gtbritishskull at 2019-07-22 11:30 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#65 | POSTED BY MODER8

It is most definitely "emotional blackmail" to parade these children out as props in a political dispute.

let me ask you....do you think history will look any less favorably on the country for these immigrant children than for the way we allow our own children to be abused?

would you sacrifice every child held now as a result of our border policy....if it would insure a clean warm place to live and plenty to eat, and a proper education for all the children in a major American city?

my point is....those american kids are standing right beside you and in this sound byte culture, if they can't get someone to read about their plight on TV, then they're on their own

#71 | Posted by 1947steamer at 2019-07-22 11:31 AM | Reply

The Trump administration's goal was to use these kids as warning to other potential immigrants that said, "Don't come here, or this will happen to your child." Is that a form of emotion blackmail?

#72 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-07-22 11:38 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

- I'm proud to be raised right. Whatever happened to you to make you such a -------?

To this day, I know that Bush-Cheney are war criminals that Obama failed to prosecute. In fact, The Obama's and Bush's are close friends. To this, I call what happened at Abu Gharib war crimes, what happened at black sites conducted by CIA are horrendous human rights violations. To this day, I call GITMO a miscarriage of justice, human rights abuse, and torture.

I have no problem identifying and protesting torture.

To call the situation at the border torture is an exaggeration and political football.

The family separation policy ended a year ago. The last figures I saw were from Snoofy's May 2019 article stating less than 400 kids were separated from parents. The tens of thousands currently detained are UAC's, not separated babies. The NYT video is not journalism or news, it's a heart-wrenching dramtic reading intended to provoke an emotional response.

I'm all for solutions. The system got overrun and overwhelmed by numbers that far exceeded the capacity of those process centers.

That's a fact,

#73 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-07-22 11:39 AM | Reply

#70 | POSTED BY GTBRITISHSKULL
#72 | POSTED BY GAL_TUESDAY

The child separation policy ended a year ago. The only children that should be separated from adults are those who it can't be determined they are in fact with a parent. For safety's sake I agree with that. I wouldn't want to allow a child to remain with a kidnapper, trafficker, or other adult opportunist.

I'd rather err on the side of caution when it comes to child sex trafficking. Above all else, the safety of the child is paramount.

#74 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-07-22 11:45 AM | Reply

Prosecuting Parents -- and Separating Families -- Was Meant to Deter Migration, Signed Memo Confirms

theintercept.com

The kids were deliberately used as political pawns when they were separated from their parents. The trauma and pain of the children and their parents was part of the plan to deter others from following in their footsteps. It seems to me that the Trump administration wanted their pain to be known by other potential immigrants but not empathized with by the American public.

#75 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-07-22 11:46 AM | Reply

IOW, the pain of detained immigrant children was meant to be a feature not a bug.

#76 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-07-22 11:50 AM | Reply

#75 | POSTED BY GAL_TUESDAY

Old News:

Wed 20 Jun 2018 Trump ends his policy of family separations with executive order - www.theguardian.com

#77 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-07-22 11:54 AM | Reply

theintercept.com - September 25 2018

#75 | POSTED BY GAL_TUESDAY

Old link. Old news. Ended a year ago.

The only children left are unaccompanied minors still arriving.
Families are being kept together. Pence and media visited a family site and the MSM ignored it. Why?

Because it doesn't support the emotional blackmail angle.

#78 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-07-22 11:57 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The Nazi Party did a great job of hiding the horrors of their concentration camps as well.

#79 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-07-22 12:01 PM | Reply

The Soviets hid their Gulag as well. Roosevelt's VP Henry Wallace visited and sung its praises.

#80 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-07-22 12:03 PM | Reply

At this point Bruce, I want to stand with you in outrage, I just don't have the evidence yet.

#64 | POSTED BY SHEEPLESCHISM AT 2019-07-22 11:20 AM | REPLY | FLAG:

Whatever happened to you to make you such a -------?

We'd need an entire new blog for that.

#81 | Posted by Zed at 2019-07-22 12:08 PM | Reply

*carries away several buckets of Bruce's Crocodile Tears*

#82 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-07-22 12:09 PM | Reply

At this point Bruce, I want to stand with you in outrage, I just don't have the evidence yet.

#64 | POSTED BY SHEEPLESCHISM AT 2019-07-22 11:20 AM | REPLY | FLAG:

I'm not just talking about this one issue either. It's all of it.

The purpose is to keep peeing on the couch so no one any longer wants to sit on it. The purpose is to make sure that no one except people like him come here.

#83 | Posted by Zed at 2019-07-22 12:10 PM | Reply

I've noticed there are never claims we're a Christian Nation from religionists, when this is the topic.

#84 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-07-22 12:12 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Clown, Zed, and DanFirst rush in with solutions.

Not.

#85 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-07-22 12:21 PM | Reply

But they arent our own. It all starts with the parents.

#29 | POSTED BY BOAZ AT 2019-07-22 10:30 AM | FLAG:

Jesus is still weeping, Boaz.

#33 | POSTED BY LFTHNDTHRDS

He doesn't care, he's a faux Christian like 95% of righties.

Their supposed faith exists to serve two selfish purposes, the first is to convince themselves they're decent people and the second is the use that faith as a cudgel to back the horrible ideas they push on the rest of us.

#86 | Posted by jpw at 2019-07-22 12:28 PM | Reply

And I see the schitt heap twins nullischittian and sheepleshart are doubling down.

#87 | Posted by jpw at 2019-07-22 12:34 PM | Reply

Jesus is still weeping, Boaz.

#33 | Posted by lfthndthrds

Jesus came here to save us from sin. If he's weeping, it's because you liberal/Democrats are turning this nation into Sodom and Gomorrah.

#88 | Posted by boaz at 2019-07-22 12:35 PM | Reply

He doesn't care, he's a faux Christian like 95% of righties.

Go ---- yourself, JPW. God told me to tell you that.

#89 | Posted by boaz at 2019-07-22 12:36 PM | Reply

If he's weeping, it's because you liberal/Democrats are turning this nation into Sodom and Gomorrah.

#88 | Posted by boaz

Oh please.

Given your posting history and support of the GOP I'm betting you've committed your fair share of cardinal sins.

Go ---- yourself, JPW. God told me to tell you that.

#89 | Posted by boaz

Of course he did.

God always seems to say what people already want him to say to support what they already want.

No matter how unChrist-like that want or desire is.

#90 | Posted by jpw at 2019-07-22 12:53 PM | Reply

If he's weeping, it's because you liberal/Democrats are turning this nation into Sodom and Gomorrah.

#88 | POSTED BY BOAZ

This from the party of "grab her by the -----"?

President "barge into the changing rooms at the Ms. America pageant so that he could see the girls naked".

President "slept with a pornstar right after his THIRD WIFE (#1 and #2 having been cheated on with #2 and #3, respectively) gave birth to his child".

THAT is the leader of conservatives in this country. The person who you raised up to lead their party. The person who you thought best represented you and your ideals.

Give me a F-ing break. Sodom and Gomorrah is here. And it was brought by the "idiocracy".

Conservatives... YOU built that.

#91 | Posted by gtbritishskull at 2019-07-22 01:00 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Conservatives... YOU built that.

#91 | Posted by gtbritishskull

Clearly you never read two Galatians.

Then after fourteen years, I went up again to Jerusalem, this time with Barnabas. I took Titus and Herpes along also. 2 I went in response to a revelation and, meeting privately with those esteemed as leaders and donors, I presented to them the gospel of deal making that I preach among the moro...Gentiles. I wanted to be sure I was not running as a Democrat and had not been running my race in vain, for forgiveness can be obtained through tax cuts and environmental deregulation. And big deal making. Biggest, most beautiful deal making. Buhleave me.

#92 | Posted by jpw at 2019-07-22 01:06 PM | Reply

Go ---- yourself. God told me to tell you that.
#89 | POSTED BY BOAZ

This, on a T-shirt, would make a killing at just about any Republican event.

#93 | Posted by schifferbrains at 2019-07-22 01:56 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"Prove it. Right now. Show us the torture."

torture
3 : distortion or overrefinement of a meaning or an argument : straining
www.merriam-webster.com

^
I think I found it.

#94 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-07-22 02:05 PM | Reply

Jesus came here to save us from sin. If he's weeping, it's because you liberal/Democrats are turning this nation into Sodom and Gomorrah.

#88 | POSTED BY BOAZ AT 2019-07-22 12:35 PM | FLAG:

And he told you not to help people from other countries that were suffering, right? They showed up on your doorstep and you sait it's the parents problem,

First of all, I'm not a Democrat secondly I'm not a Christian but I can spot a fake a mile off.

And while I dont agree with no borders I'm ok with our country doing every thing we can for people fleeing a disastrous situation as a refugee.

You need to take inventory of your self and decide who your lord is. Is it the teachings of Christ or yourself? Saying you're a Christian is one thing, demonstrating it is another.

#95 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2019-07-22 02:35 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Jesus came here to save us from sin. If he's weeping, it's because you liberal/Democrats are turning this nation into Sodom and Gomorrah.
#88 | POSTED BY BOAZ"

Your President raw-dogs porn stars, Boaz.

#96 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-07-22 02:39 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

"Your President raw-dogs porn stars, Boaz."

While his wife is giving, and recovering from, birth to their son....

#97 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2019-07-22 02:41 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

When Jesus told the religious hypocrites of his day to love their neighbors... they kinda looked around and decided to try to trap him in theology saying, OK, but who is our neighbor? *like, certainly there are limits to who we must associate with or like, well, we can't be forced to as a whole treat everyone as our neighbor!

His answer was the story of the Good Samaritan... which people were immigrants and foreigners and considered by these self-righteous Jews to be the very scum of the earth.

In the story, a man, likely in context a Jew, is attacked on the road, robbed, and left to die. Several Jews and even priests passed him by, moving to the other side of the road. But a passing Samaritan rescued him and paid for his care and lodging.

The moral of the story is that the answer to the question is that everyone is your neighbor, even those you might consider to be unworthy or not your responsibility.

Of course, this public humiliation of the religious hypocrites by someone who was known to heal people in their God's name, who ate, and drank wine, with reviled tax collectors, and let women speak in his presence, was just another strike against him on his way to being crucified for believing and teaching that we should do unto others as we would have them do unto us.

And there is, of course, no admonition anywhere in the scriptures against a society, particularly one that claims to be, "Under God", against deciding to as a people follow the Golden Rule.

Just as there is no scripture saying that those people other than ourselves are the church's problem, not the society's responsibility.

#98 | Posted by Corky at 2019-07-22 02:55 PM | Reply

President "barge into the changing rooms at the Ms. America pageant so that he could see the girls naked".

I'd like to point out, it wasn't the Ms America Pageant (Which should cause people (especially religious conservatives) to question the morals of a man eagerly walking into the dressing room of women while they were changing.)

No, it was the MISS TEEN USA Pageant, all the girls were underage. They weren't women changing, they were girls. Again, not a peep from supposed religious conservatives.

Trump described going backstage at the beauty pageants while the contestants were undressed. "Before a show, I'll go backstage and everyone's getting dressed, and everything else, and you know, no men are anywhere, and I'm allowed to go in because I'm the owner of the pageant and therefore I'm inspecting it," he said. "You know, I'm inspecting because I want to make sure that everything is good."

"You know, they're standing there with no clothes. ‘Is everybody okay?'" he continued. "And you see these incredible looking women, and so, I sort of get away with things like that."

According to interviews BuzzFeed News conducted with former Miss Teen USA contestants, Trump did just that in 1997. Four women who were competing in the pageant that year  --  including one who was 15 at the time  --  recalled that Trump walked into the dressing area while they were changing.

thinkprogress.org

Donald Trump boasted about meeting semi-naked teenagers in beauty pageants

www.independent.co.uk

"I remember putting on my dress really quick because I was like, ‘Oh my god, there's a man in here,' " said Mariah Billado, the former Miss Vermont Teen USA.

Trump, she recalled, said something like, "Don't worry, ladies, I've seen it all before."

Two of them said the girls rushed to cover their bodies, with one calling it "shocking" and "creepy."

www.politifact.com

Teen Beauty Queens Say Trump Walked In On Them Changing

www.buzzfeednews.com


Trump, to 15 year old naked girls, "Don't worry, ladies, I've seen it all before."

#99 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-07-22 02:56 PM | Reply

You need to take inventory of your self and decide who your lord is.

Actually I dont. I know who he is and what he commands me to do.

#100 | Posted by boaz at 2019-07-22 02:57 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Donald Trump boasted about meeting semi-naked teenagers

By the way, when Donnie brags about seeing "semi naked teenagers"...

First thought to come to mind is, creepy.

Second thought is, he probably saw a lot more than he's admitting.

#101 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-07-22 02:59 PM | Reply

#95,

Maybe it's liberals who need to re-read the bible and stop trying to re-write it to fit their ideology, which is it clearly against.

#102 | Posted by boaz at 2019-07-22 03:01 PM | Reply

I know who he is and what he commands me to do.
#100 | POSTED BY BOAZ

You know who you've been told he is and what to believe he expects of you.

You've shut your eyes to reality and depend on others to tell you what you see.

#103 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-07-22 03:01 PM | Reply

Maybe it's liberals who need to re-read the bible and stop trying to re-write it to fit their ideology, which is it clearly against.

When it comes down to it.

Liberals live a life closer to that which Jesus did.

Conservatives have embraced greed, hate and ignorance.

#104 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-07-22 03:03 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Maybe it's liberals who need to re-read the bible and stop trying to re-write it to fit their ideology, which is it clearly against.

#102 | POSTED BY BOAZ

Can you please explain to liberals what the Bible says about detaining migrant children?

#105 | Posted by Derek_Wildstar at 2019-07-22 03:08 PM | Reply

When Jesus told the religious hypocrites of his day to love their neighbors [....] which people were immigrants and foreigners and considered by these self-righteous Jews to be the very scum of the earth [...] everyone is your neighbor, even those you might consider to be unworthy or not your responsibility.
#98 | POSTED BY CORKY

Your long-winded and condescending rant is just you assigning a false position and screaming "brown!" Find me one single post anywhere on the Retort where a poster says that immigrants should be rejected because skin color.

You won't because you can't. Immigration needs to be legal, orderly, documented, and limited to available jobs, housing, and resources.

That's not racist, that's responsible, compassionate, and humane.

#106 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-07-22 03:15 PM | Reply

Actually I dont. I know who he is and what he commands me to do.

#100 | POSTED BY BOAZ AT 2019-07-22 02:57 PM | FLAG:

Like healing the sick (without an HMO) feeding the hungry (from another country)???

#107 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2019-07-22 03:19 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I cook and you to bash liberals on the retort, even if they have nothing to do with the given subject!
-god

#108 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2019-07-22 03:21 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Liberals live a life closer to that which Jesus did.
Conservatives have embraced greed, hate and ignorance.

#104 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK

LOL You live a life closer to the Chinese opium dens of 1839.

Jesus didn't sit around like you in his stinky pajamas surrounded by empty takeout cartons

smoking dope and arguing on the internet, ClownHole.

#109 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-07-22 03:21 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

Command...
Cook and you...wtf?

#110 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2019-07-22 03:21 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

95,
Maybe it's liberals who need to re-read the bible and stop trying to re-write it to fit their ideology, which is it clearly against.

#102 | POSTED BY BOAZ AT 2019-07-22 03:01 PM | FLAG:

Rewrite? I just told you I'm not a Christian. And apparently I know the document better than you. No one is rewriting anything but you - to pad your own conscience.

#111 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2019-07-22 03:22 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Ah, the not so bright sheeple who have gone astray, each to their own mind-numbingly moronic way.

First, you find me more than one or two people advocating "Open Borders", you know, that rwing myth you hold so dear.

Obama didn't, neither do 99 percent of most Dems. Too bad we can't say that 99 percent of rwingers aren't obvious racists.

And since you obviously have no clue what was said in that "rant", most of the Jews by the 1st century BCE were more brown than anything else, so, both the Jews and the Samaritans.

#112 | Posted by Corky at 2019-07-22 03:26 PM | Reply

Can you please explain to liberals what the Bible says about detaining migrant children?

He didnt. But he did say you should obey the laws in a host country.

#113 | Posted by boaz at 2019-07-22 03:32 PM | Reply

And apparently I know the document better than you.

No, you know how to twist words. The devil always did know how to deceive.

#114 | Posted by boaz at 2019-07-22 03:33 PM | Reply

- apparently I know the document better than you.

You don't have generations of church and family substituting their long-held misguided, misunderstood, and self-serving traditions for the actual scriptures and what's in them.

Jesus told those same Jewish priests that they "make void the Word of God by their traditions".

www.thestandard.co.zw

#115 | Posted by Corky at 2019-07-22 03:34 PM | Reply

Actually I dont. I know who he is and what he commands me to do.

#100 | Posted by boaz

LOL see a therapist and a priest if you think the garbage you spew is Godly.

Faux Christian indeed...

#116 | Posted by jpw at 2019-07-22 03:35 PM | Reply

I cook and you...
-god
#108

christ.
Angel-Hair pasta.

UH-GAIN.
:/

#117 | Posted by schifferbrains at 2019-07-22 03:40 PM | Reply

#112 | POSTED BY CORKY

More racism accusations. You're a liar without a valid argument.

Cite your objection to: "Immigration needs to be legal, orderly, documented, and limited to available jobs, housing, and resources.
That's not racist, that's responsible, compassionate, and humane."

#118 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-07-22 03:40 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

- obey the laws in a host country.

When the host country is not obeying international laws to which they have agreed?

Paul's writings were rarely meant as blanket statements, and if they were he said so. Mostly they were meant as instruction to particular churches at a particular time in a particular context.

Some have even used his words to say that Germans should not have resisted Hitler.

Many have said that because Paul told his aide Timothy to, as my Pastor put it, "to grow a pair" and not be intimidated by certain overly aggressive know it all women in the church, that that meant all women every where for all time were forbidden to speak in the church.

The original Greek is much more revealing of context and meaning than the old KJV that most traditionalists have used to form their biases.

#119 | Posted by Corky at 2019-07-22 03:41 PM | Reply

#118

I did cite my objection... you just, as per usual, didn't grok it. Apparently there really is no cure for stupidity.

#120 | Posted by Corky at 2019-07-22 03:44 PM | Reply

No, you know how to twist words. The devil always did know how to deceive.

#114 | POSTED BY BOAZ AT 2019-07-22 03:33 PM | REPLY | FLAG:

LMAO. Now I'm the devil.

It's the devil, Bobby!

#121 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2019-07-22 03:49 PM | Reply

I cook and you to bash liberals on the retort, even if they have nothing to do with the given subject!
-god
#108 | POSTED BY 101CHAIRBORNE

Your posts suck these days...

#122 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-07-22 03:53 PM | Reply

You live a life closer to the Chinese opium dens of 1839.
#109 | POSTED BY SHERP

You fantasizing about me again?

#123 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-07-22 03:56 PM | Reply

Your posts suck these days...
#122 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK AT 2019-07-22 03:53 PM | REPLY

I agree. Chair was way more funny when he was a completely unbridled jackass.

#124 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2019-07-22 03:56 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

LMAO. Now I'm the devil.
It's the devil, Bobby!
#121 | POSTED BY LFTHNDTHRDS

Depends. Do you wear a blue dress?
www.youtube.com

#125 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-07-22 03:58 PM | Reply

Chair was way more funny when he was a completely unbridled jackass.

Back in the day, Chair actually had some of the better posts on the DR.

He definitely use to make me laugh a lot more.

Lately he seems a bit off.

Kinda desperate and pathetic.

#126 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-07-22 03:58 PM | Reply

Was it the funny flag I gave sheep for the opium den crack?
You poor thing.

#127 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2019-07-22 04:14 PM | Reply

Depends. Do you wear a blue dress?
www.youtube.com
#125 | POSTED BY NULLIFIDIAN AT 2019-07-22 03:58 PM | REPL

Dont be giving Boaz any ideas. Next he'll be accusing me of cross dressing- sign me up on the prayer chain...

#128 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2019-07-22 04:14 PM | Reply

Matthew's gospel relates that:

At the same time came the disciples unto Jesus, saying, Who is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven?
And Jesus called a little child unto him, and set him in the midst of them,
And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become
as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.
Whosoever therefore shall humble himself as this little child, the same is greatest in the kingdom of heaven.
And whoso shall receive one such little child in my name receiveth me.
But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea.

#129 | Posted by Corky at 2019-07-22 04:37 PM | Reply

#129 | POSTED BY CORKY

You forgot the part where Jesus and Henry Kissinger called for the bombing of Assad,
cheered when Gaddafi was speared, and defended the Benghazi debacle.

Oh wait that was you.

#130 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-07-22 05:05 PM | Reply

Gather around everyone, Corky the Baptist is going to anoint your heads in machine gun oil.

#131 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-07-22 05:07 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

--Nobody is arguing for open borders.

Sure sounds like it.

Ocasio-Cortez on immigration: "I think that all people should be free, to be, here and in our communities"

twitter.com

#132 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-07-22 05:10 PM | Reply

"Find me one single post anywhere on the Retort where a poster says that immigrants should be rejected because skin color."

It's not 1954 any more.

You start out in 1954 by saying, "------, ------, ------." By 1968 you can't say "------" -- that hurts you, backfires. So you say stuff like, uh, forced busing, states' rights, and all that stuff, and you're getting so abstract. Now, you're talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you're talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is, blacks get hurt worse than whites. ... "We want to cut this," is much more abstract than even the busing thing, uh, and a hell of a lot more abstract than "------, ------." www.thenation.com

#133 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-07-22 05:27 PM | Reply

Was it the funny flag I gave sheep for the opium den crack?
You poor thing.
#127 | POSTED BY 101CHAIRBORNE

Oh yea, that thing no one was talking about? That's what it was! I always cry when someone is given a flag.

Couldn't be your quality of humor has declined.

No, it's definitely not you...

#134 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-07-22 05:38 PM | Reply

--Corky the Baptist is going to anoint your heads in machine gun oil.

Corkus of Bethlehem has more healing THC oil in stock.

#135 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-07-22 06:21 PM | Reply

"And Jesus did passeth the shrooms to Corkymus, and there was great joy, and trails."

#136 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-07-22 06:26 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

I see that Sheepdip is still mourning the Good Col.

Figures.

And that Judasifidian has his 30 pieces of orange from Trump.

- Sure sounds like it.

And is still lying about "Open Borders". The Brown Scare Continues.

One has to admit, though, that he's become quite the rwinger; the Big Lie is his bestest friend.... well, other than every trashy rwing media source on the planet. He's very close with them, too.

#137 | Posted by Corky at 2019-07-22 09:21 PM | Reply

Maybe it's liberals who need to re-read the bible and stop trying to re-write it to fit their ideology, which is it clearly against.

#102 | POSTED BY BOAZ AT 2019-07-22 03:01 PM

Who is trying to rewrite the bible to fit their ideology?

www.conservapedia.com

#138 | Posted by hatter5183 at 2019-07-22 09:24 PM | Reply

Show me the verse that says LBGTQ is sin

There are none. Sodom and ghomrrah were destoyed for behaving like modern republicans.

Ezekiel writes:

"Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom:
She and her daughters were arrogant,
overfed and unconcerned;
they did not help the poor and needy.
They were haughty and did detestable things before me.
Therefore I did away with them as you have seen."
Ezekiel 16:49–50

#139 | Posted by hatter5183 at 2019-07-22 09:33 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"Old link. Old news. Ended a year ago."

I know--that was back when you didn't care if the kids where used as emotional blackmail.

#140 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-07-22 09:39 PM | Reply

Old link. Old news. Ended a year ago.
#78 | POSTED BY SHERP

Old news? Does that mean you and the soiled Mattress will stop bringing up the Obama administration?

What about the Clintons? Old news, or still an acceptable deflection?

#141 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-07-22 09:44 PM | Reply

#139 | Posted by hatter5183

Touche!

#142 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2019-07-22 09:46 PM | Reply

Maybe it's liberals who need to re-read the bible and stop trying to re-write it to fit their ideology, which is it clearly against.

#102 | POSTED BY BOAZ

Live by the 'red print' (Jesus' words) or don't call yourself a Christian.

Distorting it to suit your own views is hypocrisy.

Start with Matthew 25: 31-45

#143 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2019-07-22 09:48 PM | Reply

Ezekiel writes:
"Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom:
She and her daughters were arrogant,
overfed and unconcerned;
they did not help the poor and needy.
They were haughty and did detestable things before me.
Therefore I did away with them as you have seen."
Ezekiel 16:49–50

How dare you confuse Boaz.

#144 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2019-07-22 09:59 PM | Reply

"overfed and unconcerned;"

Well....... as long as they have pretty feet, I guess...

#145 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2019-07-22 10:00 PM | Reply

Corkus of Bethlehem has more healing THC oil in stock.

#135 | POSTED BY NULLIFIDIAN AT 2019-07-22 06:21 PM | FLAG:

And that worries you why? I thought you liked the vape... do you partake?

#146 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2019-07-22 10:03 PM | Reply

I don't because of my job, but I do shroom occasionally..

#147 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2019-07-22 10:04 PM | Reply

More from the namesake of Christianity for BOAZ (who doesn't seem to know what being a practicing Christian is):

At that time the disciples came to Jesus and asked, "Who, then, is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven?"

He called a little child to him, and placed the child among them. And he said: "Truly I tell you, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven. Therefore, whoever takes the lowly position of this child is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven. And whoever welcomes one such child in my name welcomes me." (Matthew 18:1-5)
----
But Jesus called them to him, saying, "Let the children come to me, and do not hinder them, for to such belongs the kingdom of God." (Luke 18:16)

#148 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2019-07-22 10:15 PM | Reply

Maybe it's liberals who need to re-read the bible and stop trying to re-write it to fit their ideology, which is it clearly against.

#102 | POSTED BY BOAZ

Maybe you need to take a break from pointing fingers and take a good long look in the mirror.

You are the worst example of a "Christian" and "Freemason" there could be.

#149 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2019-07-22 10:20 PM | Reply

WH Used The Same Bible Verse As The Third Reich To Justify Family Separation

mavenroundtable.io

Old news. Old link. But still relevant because it tells us something about how Evangelicals justify supporting Trump.

#150 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-07-22 11:02 PM | Reply

#150 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday

If you examine evangelical Christianity, it's easy to observe they do not actually practice Christianity, i.e. focused on Christ's teachings. It should be called "Paulianity" He was firm about following Mosaic Law, and a misogynistic control freak. Thus the constant references to the Old Testament when Jesus' teaching are in conflict with what evangelicals would rather do.

Paul was a spoiled rich boy whose parents bought him Roman citizenship. He (and Peter) was extremely jealous of Jesus' relationships with his female disciples; Mary Magdalene, Joanna, and Susanna. He did everything he could to erase them from history after the crucifixion. Constantine's Council of Nicaea in 325 did the rest by leaving out all the texts that mention the women disciples as equals of the 12 disciples they told us were all of them.

His fights to be the 'leader' post-Christ are not chronicled in the Bible, but they happened. Jesus' brother, James, was supposed to be the 'leader,' but Paul wasn't having any of that. There is one account recorded by the Ebionites in the Clementine Homolies where Paul physically attacked James. Another, which could be born of confusion - James, son of Alpheus vs James, brother of Jesus - where Paul actually threw him down the stairs at the Temple Mount and killed him with a club when he continued breathing after the attack.

There is a reason Paul was made the star of the New Testament. Far more of his life and writings are included in the New Testament than the very namesake of the religion "Christianity. The reasons are many per the Council of Nicaea, including the need for subjugation of women. Couldn't have them seen as equals to men. No no no.

It was centuries later that Jesus' mother, Mary, was elevated as a 'graven image' to throw a bone to the women of the time who revolted at their 2nd class status. Forced, like modern day Muslim women, to attend services shielded behind a curtain in back of the men. Subjugated rather than appreciated or treated as equals.

BTW, there are many known apochropha, gnostic and other gospels that never made it into the Bible. They include the Gospel of Mary Magdalene.

Here is a link to the translation of the Gospel of Mary. It, like other writings that never made it into the New Testament, is interesting reading:
gnosis.org

#151 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2019-07-23 03:04 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

PS - Jesus' other female disciples included his mother and sister, both named Mary (aka Mariam)

#152 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2019-07-23 05:27 AM | Reply

#151 Thanks for the link, AU.

#153 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-07-23 08:03 AM | Reply

Here is a link to the translation of the Gospel of Mary. It, like other writings that never made it into the New Testament, is interesting reading:
gnosis.org
#151 | POSTED BY AMERICANUNITY AT 2019-07-23 03:04 AM

Thank you for your excellently condensed explanation of our self-deceptive religious caste.

It's impossible to reconcile the existing Christianity supporting border walls, warfare and bigotry, but it has never really left us.

#154 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2019-07-23 10:58 AM | Reply

YW y'all.

If the New Testament had been honestly compiled, Christianity would not have become a religion of convenience where anyone could find justification thru the Old Testament or Paul to commit atrocious acts rather than follow the simple, clear philosophy contained in the 'red print,' i.e. Jesus' teachings of compassion, charity, giving, love for others, etc.

Instead, 'Christianity the religion' was formed around Paul and The Old Testament and used for millennia to justify wars, murder, torture, keeping followers in a perpetual state of fear, and subjugate women to 2nd class roles (see Paul's edict for women to 'obey' their husbands). They still taught that crap in the evangelical church I attended as a kid.

Note, for instance, how evangelicals support the death penalty. That's Mosaic Law, not Christianity. What does the Bible say that Jesus did when a woman was going to be stoned to death for adultry? He began writing their sins in the dirt and said, "he who is without sin among you cast the first stone," and spared her life.

Anyway, I choose to adhere, to the best of my ability, the philosophy contained in the 'red print.' That is Christianity. The rest is Mosaic Law and Paulianity, bearing little resemblance to anything Christ is purported to have said during His lifetime.

#155 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2019-07-23 04:02 PM | Reply

#154 | Posted by redlightrobot

I was no accident that the Bible wasn't even translated so the masses could read it until the 17th Century.

They still read masses in Latin until the 1960's.

Christianity the philosophy was intended for hope and goodness. "Christianity the religion' was created with the intent of control through trepidation.

#156 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2019-07-23 05:11 PM | Reply

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