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Thursday, July 11, 2019

Democrats in the U.S. House were forced to delete a tweet announcing their "Kids in Cages" hearing this week, after it was discovered the picture used was of kids in cages in 2014 ... when Barack Obama was President. In a tweet Tuesday, the House Oversight Committee wrote, "Last week, members of our committee visited a detention center at the southern border and discovered grotesque treatment of children. This week, we are examining the inhumane treatment of the children in these detention centers."

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At least they're being consistent; consistently dishonest and inept. It was only 2018 when AP had to fact check the Democrats attempting to lie about the same situation: https://www.apnews.com/a98f26f7c9424b44b7fa927ea1acd4d4.

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Stranger than fiction: after they deleted the first post, they posted a second photo which was also from the Obama era, then deleted that one.

Maybe they're angry with Obama and don't know it yet?

#1 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-07-11 07:15 AM | Reply

At least they're being consistent; consistently dishonest and inept.

You don't get to say this considering how often you snack on the Orange Creamsicle.

God damn the lack of awareness among righties is amazing.

#2 | Posted by jpw at 2019-07-11 08:37 AM | Reply

Did the Dems send attorneys to court to argue that kids don't need soap, showers, tooth brushes, etc. Republican should just shut up about all of this, the truth is out. Republicans supported the ripping of babies from their mothers and putting them in cages without their parents. Avigdore and other Republican apologists will try to pretend Democrats did the same things, the truth is, they didn't. Republicans are tearing apart families and when ordered to return the kids to their parents....they don't even know who their parents are. No records. No accountability. Just a maniac in the WH. Whataboutism isn't going to erase the blame on this, these kids will be damaged for life because of evil Republican racists.

#3 | Posted by danni at 2019-07-11 08:52 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

God damn the lack of awareness among righties is amazing.

#2 | Posted by jpw at

They're aware. They're always willing to try to hang the opposition with moral failings while following no moral guidelines of their own.

Morality is for other people. Not for them. They get to do what they want.

The most you get from them at some fresh moral outrage is a morbid joke, like about dead children.

#4 | Posted by Zed at 2019-07-11 08:53 AM | Reply

Dishonest or incompetent?

It has to be one or the other.

#PartyOfOpenBorders

#5 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-07-11 09:25 AM | Reply

God damn the lack of awareness among righties is amazing.

What an ignorant comment.

Whataboutism isn't going to erase the blame on this

Its not WhatAboutIsm, its Liberals/Obamas policy, putting kids in cages.

He built the cages
Children were put in these cages.
Children were getting sexually assaulted.
Women were being raped on the journey.
Drugs were coming across the border.
Biden went down there to tell them not to come.
DACA and Deferred Action opened the flood gates.

This was all going on under Obama and you and your liberal cohorts dismissed it.

OWN IT.

#6 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-07-11 09:46 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Pretty bad PR blunder. If you're going to hammer Trump for this at least don't make the mistake of attaching similar policy implemented by Obama.

If nothing else, it illustrates the faux outrage by folks.

Now...faux outrage is not significant to me. That's just something to have fun with here....it doesn't solve this immigration problem.

#7 | Posted by eberly at 2019-07-11 09:58 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Did the Dems send attorneys to court to argue that kids don't need soap, showers, tooth brushes, etc. - #3 | Posted by danni at 2019-07-11 08:52 AM
No, and neither did Republicans. What they did argue is that the Flores decision didn't specify that those were required.
You understand that there is a difference, right? If someone argues with you that speeding laws don't outlaw murder...they're not arguing for murder, just honesty.

#8 | Posted by Avigdore at 2019-07-11 10:13 AM | Reply

Now...faux outrage is not significant to me. That's just something to have fun with here....

#7 | Posted by eberly at 2019-

Some people have genuinely strong feelings about issues. I imagine even you do from time to time.

The idea that other people somehow pretend to have feelings and fake a value system is sociopathic and quintessentially Trumpian.

#9 | Posted by Zed at 2019-07-11 10:16 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

What they did argue is that the Flores decision didn't specify that those were required.
You understand that there is a difference, right?

#8 | Posted by Avigdore at 2019-07-11 10:13 AM |

They were making the legal argument tooth brushes and soap weren't required because, you know, that's what lawyers get paid to do in front of a judge, argue points that have no practical applications that matter to anyone?

You're trying much too hard to avoid the stink of bloody-minded immorality. You stepped in it. Go change your shoes, don't wipe them on the carpet and tell me you smell good.

#10 | Posted by Zed at 2019-07-11 10:19 AM | Reply

That's just something to have fun with here....it doesn't solve this immigration problem.

#7 | Posted by eberly at 2019-07-11 09:58 AM | Reply

This "faux outrage" has a perceptible chance of flipping Texas in 2020.

#11 | Posted by Zed at 2019-07-11 10:22 AM | Reply

"No, and neither did Republicans."

"Justice Department Lawyer Says Detained Kids Don't Need Beds, Soap, or Toothbrushes"

www.youtube.com

#12 | Posted by danni at 2019-07-11 10:22 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#12 | Posted by danni at

You don't understand, DANNI. Those Trump lawyers were just arguing an abstract legal point that has nothing to do with unwashed, living children.

#13 | Posted by Zed at 2019-07-11 10:24 AM | Reply

No, I do understand Zed. She was arguing that brown kids don't need those things cuz they're brown. Soap can't wash off the brownness so why bother with it?

#14 | Posted by danni at 2019-07-11 10:32 AM | Reply

Must be internet hour at the psychiatric ward.

#15 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-07-11 10:36 AM | Reply | Funny: 2

-Some people have genuinely strong feelings about issues. I imagine even you do from time to time.

couldn't agree more.

-The idea that other people somehow pretend to have feelings and fake a value system is sociopathic and quintessentially Trumpian.

call it what you want....but it's RAMPANT here.

#16 | Posted by eberly at 2019-07-11 10:39 AM | Reply

call it what you want....

#16 | Posted by eberly

You mean describe it accurately? I did that.

Trumpites try to erase moral issues by asserting no one really has moral issues.

#17 | Posted by Zed at 2019-07-11 10:40 AM | Reply

-This "faux outrage" has a perceptible chance of flipping Texas in 2020.

At least you pointed out what this is about....politics and elections.

NOT about solving any immigration problems.

pretending to care about a problem when your true interest ends where the political implications end....well, that's probably why there is so much faux outrage on this issue.

#18 | Posted by eberly at 2019-07-11 10:42 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

-You mean describe it accurately? I did that.

I'm not arguing with your description.

I'm just accurately pointing out there are phonies on both sides.

#19 | Posted by eberly at 2019-07-11 10:44 AM | Reply

---This "faux outrage" has a perceptible chance of flipping Texas in 2020.

If not, as soon as amnesty and citizenship is granted. That's the Democrat plan for a permanent electoral majority.

#20 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-07-11 10:51 AM | Reply

"If not, as soon as amnesty and citizenship is granted. "

There's that lie again. 1. No one is calling for amnesty, you are confusing us with Reagan. 2. Illegal aliens can't vote even though liars like you pretend they do anyway even though that has been disproven over and over and over.

#21 | Posted by danni at 2019-07-11 10:54 AM | Reply

1. No one is calling for amnesty, you are confusing us with Reagan.

Yes they are they just passed it.
twitter.com

Reagan had a deal with Democrats, amnesty for border security (funding), Democrats got their amnesty, and for once in their life found something they didn't want to fund.

2. Illegal aliens can't vote even though liars like you pretend they do anyway even though that has been disproven over and over and over.

Democrats aren't interested in them voting, they want to be their representative. Add more illegal immigrants, get the representative. Democrats are for slavery all overagain.

If Illegal Immigrants moved to Republican districts, Democrats would have an armed Wall stretching as far as the eye could see.

#22 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-07-11 11:04 AM | Reply

DACA is far different from a general amnesty. And let's be honest, Republicans don't want to end illegal immigration but they don't want the families to bring the kids. They want the cheap labor without the complications. Arrest the employers and it will end illegal immigration. Everyone knows that including you Republicans who probably benefit from illegal labor in your own lives and you know it. Lying hypocrites.

#23 | Posted by danni at 2019-07-11 11:13 AM | Reply

"If Illegal Immigrants moved to Republican districts, Democrats would have an armed Wall stretching as far as the eye could see."

Huh? Are you nuts? Millions of illegal immigrants are living and working in Republican districts right now. Orange Co. California has not illegals...who knew????

#24 | Posted by danni at 2019-07-11 11:14 AM | Reply

"Justice Department Lawyer Says Detained Kids Don't Need Beds, Soap, or Toothbrushes"
www.youtube.com
#12 | Posted by danni at 2019-07-11 10:22 AM

Thanks for posting a youtube video that backs precisely what I said. You can listen to her discuss the Flores agreement about 1:15 in your video.
She was arguing that safe and sanitary did not enumerate soap, toothbrushes, etc, as I said above.
She also argued that short stays, 12 hours the judge mentioned, would not necessarily require soap and toothbrushes.
Or are you of the opinion that for any period of time, say during a car ride from a pick-up by CBP to a DHS facility, each person should be provided with soap, a toothbrush, a blanket and the lights be dimmed to allow for sleep?

#25 | Posted by Avigdore at 2019-07-11 11:27 AM | Reply

"pretending to care about a problem"

How can you tell they're pretending?

#26 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-07-11 11:28 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Justice Department Lawyer Says Detained Kids Don't Need Beds, Soap, or Toothbrushes"

Kids without beds, soap, or toothbrushes.

Real problem or pretend problem, Eberly?

#27 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-07-11 11:30 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

-How can you tell they're pretending?

It's hard. It's not like they want to admit it.

#28 | Posted by eberly at 2019-07-11 11:30 AM | Reply

27

Real problem. No question. My point isn't to challenge that.

#29 | Posted by eberly at 2019-07-11 11:31 AM | Reply

-This "faux outrage" has a perceptible chance of flipping Texas in 2020.

At least you pointed out what this is about....politics and elections.

#18 | Posted by eberly

Yes, I was pointing that out.

In part to illustrate there's nothing "faux" about the outrage at all.

You said people didn't act on their feelings.

#30 | Posted by Zed at 2019-07-11 11:37 AM | Reply

If the problem is real, the outrage is justified.

So then what's your point?

#31 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-07-11 11:39 AM | Reply

Thanks for posting a youtube video that backs precisely what I said.

#25 | Posted by Avigdore at 2019-07

No it didn't. That is unless what you said was trying to wriggle out of giving soap, toothbrushes, and blankets to kids.

#32 | Posted by Zed at 2019-07-11 11:39 AM | Reply

Did faux outrage over Hillary's emails help get Trump elected?

Faux outrage seems to mean outrage Eberly doesn't share.

Is that your point, Eberly? That you're not outraged, so anybody who says they are is faking it?

#33 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-07-11 11:44 AM | Reply

That is unless what you said was trying to wriggle out of giving soap, toothbrushes, and blankets to kids.
#32 | Posted by Zed at 2019-07-11 11:39 AM |

You are aware that you can scroll up to see what I posted, right?
Here it is anyway: " What they did argue is that the Flores decision didn't specify that those were required. "
Precisely what I said. Except she chose the words enumerate instead of specify.

#34 | Posted by Avigdore at 2019-07-11 11:45 AM | Reply

I'm just accurately pointing out there are phonies on both sides.

#19 | POSTED BY EBERLY

However, for one side it is obviously their policy to lie (to be phony). As evidenced by the ~11,000 Lies by Trumpy and the Deplorables.

#35 | Posted by donnerboy at 2019-07-11 11:45 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"pretending to care about a problem when your true interest ends where the political implications end."

If it's a political problem, like most of what we discuss here, your true interest is the political implications.

#36 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-07-11 11:52 AM | Reply

"This was all going on under Obama and you and your liberal cohorts dismissed it."

No it wasn't.
"Zero tolerance" resulting in family separation was not going on under Obama.
en.wikipedia.org

Why lie about that?
Seriously, why the constant lies?

#37 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-07-11 12:06 PM | Reply

its Liberals/Obamas policy, putting kids in cages.

Obama hasn't been President for three years.

At some point or another you're going to have to accept Trump is President and everything that our country is currently doing is sanctioned by him.

And that's ignoring the fact he's using the border as a dog whistle for his xenophobic deplorables to froth over.

#38 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-07-11 12:20 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Also.

Is the assumption that pictures of kids in cages would look differently if they were taken today?

Perhaps the cages have been turned into a resort and liberals don't want anyone to know how good things are?

#39 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-07-11 12:22 PM | Reply

"Is the assumption that pictures of kids in cages would look differently if they were taken today?"

You wouldn't see entire families in cages, because Trump put an end to that humane detention policy.

#40 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-07-11 12:24 PM | Reply

" What they did argue is that the Flores decision didn't specify that those were required. "

#34 | Posted by Avigdore at 2019-07-

Yes, in order not to provide soap and the rest to children.

You do agree that's what Trump wanted, don't you? No soap for kids?

I mean, the Trump lawyer wasn't even prepared to admit that sleep was an essential human function.

#41 | Posted by Zed at 2019-07-11 12:27 PM | Reply

Seriously, why the constant lies?

#37 | Posted by snoofy at 2019

His master is the Lord of the Flies.

#42 | Posted by Zed at 2019-07-11 12:28 PM | Reply

"I mean, the Trump lawyer wasn't even prepared to admit that sleep was an essential human function."

They said the same during the waterboarding era. That prolonged sleep deprivation wasn't torture.
Of course, those were detainees being broken down for intelligence.
Why break children?
I'd love Eberly's answer.

#43 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-07-11 12:43 PM | Reply

Whataboutism and perpetual victimhood are the only thing the alt-right (R)tards have left.
Truth and facts do not support their political ideology anymore.

#44 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2019-07-11 04:46 PM | Reply

Dishonest or incompetent?
It has to be one or the other.
#PartyOfOpenBorders
#5 | POSTED BY NULLIFIDIAN AT 2019-07-11 09:25 AM

You are a monster.

#45 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2019-07-11 11:00 PM | Reply

You are a monster.
#45 | POSTED BY REDLIGHTROBOT

TRUTH Monster ....

#46 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-07-11 11:07 PM | Reply

#44 | POSTED BY ABORTED_MONSON Flag : PROJECTION

#47 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-07-11 11:07 PM | Reply

#37 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

Oh please ... there is no lie, the images, children in cages, family separation, people dying enroute, getting raped enroute ...

All of which were going on under Obama.

Biden even flew down to CA to tell them not to come, they still came ....

Trump just enforces using same techniques Obama did, just more of it, now you complain, hypocrites .... just a distinction without a difference.

#48 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-07-11 11:11 PM | Reply

"Trump just enforces using same techniques Obama did"

Patently false.

Trump administration family separation policy en.wikipedia.org

"The Trump administration family separation policy is an aspect of US President Donald Trump's immigration policy. The policy was presented to the public as a "zero tolerance" approach intended to deter illegal immigration and to encourage tougher legislation.[1][2][3][4] It was adopted across the entire US–Mexico border from April 2018 until June 2018,[5][6][7] however later investigations found that the practice of family separations had begun a year previous to the public announcement."

"Media reports published in February 2019 to June 2019 state that family separations have still been continuing despite the ban in June 2018."

#49 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-07-11 11:30 PM | Reply

The fundamental difference between the inexperienced Obama and inexperienced Trump is that zero children died under Obama while the incompetent Trump administration seven children have died. Trump chose to make detention somiserable that it would discourage further immigration. He has no idea what is driving current refugee flight.

#50 | Posted by bayviking at 2019-07-12 09:18 AM | Reply

"Trump chose to make detention somiserable that it would discourage further immigration. "

He also rolled out this plan without giving any thought to how we might ever reunite children with the parents they were taken from.

#51 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-07-12 09:23 AM | Reply

He also rolled out this plan without giving any thought to how we might ever reunite children with the parents they were taken from.

We are finding out most of the parents are still in Mexico. The U.S. Government isnt always doing the "taking". That was already done by the coyote.

#52 | Posted by boaz at 2019-07-12 03:06 PM | Reply

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