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Thursday, July 11, 2019

Officials with the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) defended the government's use of facial recognition technology before a skeptical House panel on Wednesday, downplaying privacy and accuracy concerns as overblown. Representatives with Customs and Border Protection (CBP) and the Transportation Security Administration (TSA) sought to assure lawmakers there's no need to limit the agency's expanding facial recognition tech programs in airports and border areas. Some Democratic members of the committee said they feel CBP is surpassing its authority, while Republicans said they want DHS to have access to the national security tools it asks for. "Effective facial recognition technologies can improve law enforcement," Rep. Mike Rogers (R-Ala.), the ranking member on the House Homeland Security Committee, said during his opening remarks.

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Remember when America was a free country? The Fascists are trying to convince us now that they should be able to track us everywhere we go, every day, for all of our lives. This is the ultimate tool any police state would ever want. But hey, Communist China does it so it must be ok, right?

#1 | Posted by danni at 2019-07-11 08:44 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

#1 | POSTED BY DANNI

cameras everywhere..facial recognition, in another ten years we'll see heavily armed police just appear in our auditoriums, school sporting events, shopping malls, just about anywhere, to apprehend violators who've been spotted.
the fact that the camera/recognition logarithm says you are wanted will be sufficient "just cause" to arrest and detain you

#2 | Posted by 1947steamer at 2019-07-11 09:14 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#35 | Posted by Derek_Wildstar A little uncomfortable fact for y'all. There are over 2 million fugitives walking the streets at this moment. Their charges range from drunk driving to murder, but all are felony charges. We live in the most mobile society on this planet. I guess that having people who have been charged and skipped the trial have to be tolerated in your world. I respectfully disagree. As far as facial recognition software, it has been going on far longer than you would believe. The CIA worked with custom entry points in this country and others to track Russian and Eastern Block agents in the late 70s.

#3 | Posted by docnjo at 2019-07-11 11:09 AM | Reply

Anyone willing to sacrifice freedom for security deserves neither.

#4 | Posted by danni at 2019-07-11 11:16 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#4 | Posted by danni, I believe that individuals should be held to account for their actions. What to know who apprehend the most fugitives? Bail bonds agents, also know as bounty hunters.

#5 | Posted by docnjo at 2019-07-11 11:21 AM | Reply

So all Americans should be tracked 24/7/365 so you can feel safer. You snlwflakes don't deserve the freeoms you so willingly give up to the government and then have the nerve to whine about "big government." Pathetic. You deserve the police state you will be living in. Then the "crimes" will change to illegal ideas. Can't wait for "1984."

#6 | Posted by danni at 2019-07-11 11:27 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#6 | Posted by danni Don't be naive, you already are. Do you have a cell phone? Do you log on to a computer? Do you have a bank account? Do you use credit cards? It is all tracked, by the government, the tech giants and others.

#7 | Posted by docnjo at 2019-07-11 11:31 AM | Reply

What to know who apprehend the most fugitives? Bail bonds agents, also know as bounty hunters.

#5 | POSTED BY DOCNJO

So... bail bond use facial recognition software? Was this House Panel limiting the use of facial recognition software for them (or for regular law enforcement)?

And since when is it the job of CBP and DHS to apprehend fugitives?

How is your statement in any way relevant to this thread????

#8 | Posted by gtbritishskull at 2019-07-11 11:32 AM | Reply

The credit card companies will partner with the bailbonds in the future so that deadbeat bail jumpers won't be able to transact without using cash. Cash will only be available at atms with facial recognition/criminal scan anyways. Crime in general will soon be a thing of the past. Freedom from criminal hooligans will usher a new prosperous era in America!!

#9 | Posted by mutant at 2019-07-11 11:34 AM | Reply

#8 | Posted by gtbritishskull, A little fact for you, if I want to access a file or surveillance of ANY fugitive all I need is a warrant issued by a court.

#10 | Posted by docnjo at 2019-07-11 11:35 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

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I suspect that the Republicans would be singing a different tune if these had been officials from the Department of Homeland Security of say the administration of a President Hillary Clinton or any Democrat for that matter.

OCU

#11 | Posted by OCUser at 2019-07-11 11:36 AM | Reply

I had my doubts about the dangers of this new technology.

Now that Trumpy supports it I don't need to ponder any further.

Now I am absolutely certain that it will be harmful to society.

#12 | Posted by donnerboy at 2019-07-11 11:38 AM | Reply

It turns out that facial-recognition technology is only truly reliable when dealing with 'white' faces. The accuracy rate goes down substantially when it's used to identify racial minorities, including Hispanics and Middle-Easterners in addition to people of African decent. Of course, to many people in the Trump administration, this would hardly be a cause of concern.

OCU

#13 | Posted by OCUser at 2019-07-11 11:48 AM | Reply

--But hey, Communist China does it so it must be ok, right?

Pretty much. The Western Left has always admired communist china. So much so, that even the Beatles slapped down those ignorant fools.

"But if you go carrying pictures of chairman Mao
You ain't going to make it with anyone anyhow"

#14 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-07-11 11:54 AM | Reply

"The Western Left has always admired communist china."

I guess that's why Nixon went to China. And so many American factories went to China too.

#15 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-07-11 11:58 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Pretty much. The Western Left has always admired communist china."

Probably why Truman, Kennedy, Johnson all led wars against the Communists backed by China in both Korea and Vietnam. Idiotic talking points just make you look foolish Nulli.

#16 | Posted by danni at 2019-07-11 12:06 PM | Reply

#16 | Posted by danni I note you ignore Carter and Clinon's relationship and especially Obama's dealings with China.

#17 | Posted by docnjo at 2019-07-11 12:17 PM | Reply

these discussions are framed exactly like the ones I had in high school, well over 50 years ago. different names..same arguments.
we talk about nixon and china and obama and china. nixon's china was vastly different that obama's.
this is the same way we confront labor issues, like it's 1938. and that's in the face of robotics and A I
we're doing it with education and healthcare
we are trying to relate to, interact with, something that has implications that we can't imagine because it'll be paired with other discoveries to create a whole new paradigm for us to debate.

#18 | Posted by 1947steamer at 2019-07-11 12:45 PM | Reply

"I note you ignore Carter and Clinon's relationship and especially Obama's dealings with China."

Bush ignored students protesting for democracy in Tienanmen Square.
And their subsequent massacre.

#19 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-07-11 12:50 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#18 | Posted by 1947steamer

exactly. facial recognition is the same tech that will enable self driving cars to be safe. robotic inspection in a less structured environment than an assembly line.

#20 | Posted by ABlock at 2019-07-11 12:51 PM | Reply

#6 | Posted by danni Don't be naive, you already are. Do you have a cell phone? Do you log on to a computer? Do you have a bank account? Do you use credit cards? It is all tracked, by the government, the tech giants and others.

#7 | Posted by docnjo

And yet we call ourselves the "home of the free" and rag on China as the bad guy.

Yet another illusion bites the dust, eh?

#21 | Posted by jpw at 2019-07-11 01:01 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Swallowstrumpjism is going to defeat this technology by covering his face with orange ------.

#22 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2019-07-11 04:57 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Funny how all the ----------- who need guns to fight off big government are perfectly supportive of this administration's big brother policies.

Unless they were never really worried about government tyranny in the first place and guns really are just compensation for inferior --------.

#23 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-07-11 07:22 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

DHS began using facial recognition technology in March of 2015.
www.fedscoop.com
Please, let's continue to discuss how corrupt the administration that implemented this racist and sexist techonology is.
Is it only bad now that a Republican has been elected to the White House? If not, why the ---- are you waiting for now to bring it up?

#24 | Posted by Avigdore at 2019-07-12 10:29 AM | Reply

#24 Who is president, right now?

Who has the power to stop it, right now?

Do you care more about whether the government uses facial recognition technology, or whether some anonymous online posters on a blog site adequately registered their displeasure with said technology to your satisfaction during a prior administrative?

#25 | Posted by JOE at 2019-07-12 10:35 AM | Reply

Trump.
The House, The Executive, or a combination of the legislative and the executive.
Are you limited to only caring about 1 thing, Joe?
You want an honest answer? I care more about people displaying hypocrisy and only protesting something once a Republican is responsible for it. I care more that the media buries these same stories until they can be used to paint 'one side' as a bad guy. I care that people are too ignorant to know wtf is going on in their world. I care that those same ignorant ----- get to vote while so incredibly misinformed about the world. I care more about that.
Now, I've answered your quesitons, even though you so rudely ignored mine. Would you care to respond to the question I posed? Were you ignorant THEN or are you a hypocrite NOW?

#26 | Posted by Avigdore at 2019-07-12 12:14 PM | Reply

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