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Wednesday, July 10, 2019

Last week, a nuclear-powered Russian submarine caught fire, killing 14 sailors who were on board. Since then, the Russian government has kept details of the incident under wraps. But one Russian Navy official now claims that the sailors "prevented a planetary catastrophe," according to Bloomberg.

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When the Yamato blew, the explosion could be heard from Japan. But then it was sent on a kamikaze mission without enough fuel to return.

The most powerful battleship ever made. You couldn't be on its deck when it's guns fired. Anything over 16" causes permanent hearing damage. It had 18".

#1 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2019-07-10 04:04 PM | Reply

14 is nothing. Watch thousands die in Chernobyl.

#2 | Posted by bayviking at 2019-07-10 04:39 PM | Reply

#2 the exposed core was glowing red. If you saw that, even in a helicopter - death sentence.

#3 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2019-07-10 05:06 PM | Reply

England told them to dump wet sand on it. Turns to glass.

#4 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2019-07-10 05:07 PM | Reply

I saw this movie. Harrison Ford was the captain.

#5 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-07-10 05:16 PM | Reply

What catastrophe? It was only 3.6 roentgen, Not great, not terrible.

#6 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2019-07-10 06:10 PM | Reply

"American nuclear powered vessels have doors on their belly for that"

No, they do not. Find the source of that particular conspiracy theory and squash it.

#7 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2019-07-10 06:48 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

Rat saw a YouTube video so that proves you are wrong, duped by the deep state.

#8 | Posted by bored at 2019-07-10 07:30 PM | Reply

#7 | Posted by MUSTANG

Really? You're navy right? It takes three days for total disaster if a reactor loses coolant. Less if the damage causes the fuel rods to lay on each other. Once the control rods melt....

#9 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2019-07-10 07:54 PM | Reply

There is no ability to jettison the reactors or cores, HR. None. If the reactors lose primary loop the reactors scram. Do you really think the Navy would compromise the keel with some trapdoor?

#10 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2019-07-10 08:01 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

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#10 | Posted by MUSTANG

Yeah I do. We did it in 2 with our ammo bays on battleships. Sure, a submarine you can scuttle into the drink, but still what if you cant? Remember what happened last time? Scuttled submarine. Rescue vehicles wouldn't even approach.

"What kind of disaster?" they asked.

"A nuclear disaster", the captain replied.

#11 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2019-07-10 08:14 PM | Reply

Well, I saw The Hunt For Red October and there were no trapdoors located in the keel of that sub.

#12 | Posted by moder8 at 2019-07-10 11:03 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Das Boot is my favorite.

#13 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-07-10 11:08 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Russian Sub Sailors Died Preventing 'Planetary Catastrophe'

Get over yourselves already...

#14 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2019-07-11 04:32 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#11 I won't continue this inane argument, HR. If you choose to believe the ability exists, there's clearly nothing my two decades of experience on carriers can do to change your mind.

Did I mention I was a TAO? Or that I've walked under a Nimitz class CVN in a dry dock at PSNS during DPIA? Hell, there's a photo archive online of the Nimitz in dry dock.

#15 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2019-07-11 08:24 AM | Reply

Someone thinks nuclear powered ships are built with an escape hatch to dump an entire reactor into the ocean?

... that's not a thing.

#16 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2019-07-11 08:36 AM | Reply

The US Navy has a better track record than our nuclear power and weapons industry, with less steel and no concrete. You can thank the late Admiral Rickover for that. He accomplished this by living safety first with little formal training in nuclear physics. A true American hero.

#17 | Posted by bayviking at 2019-07-11 09:16 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Conspiracy theorists should be ridiculed not argued with.

#18 | Posted by danni at 2019-07-11 09:19 AM | Reply

Hey guys! We can help you run your nuclear facilities, ships and weapons! Call us!
--Iranian leader Ali Khamenei

#19 | Posted by catdog at 2019-07-11 09:22 AM | Reply

The Russians save the world!

Again?

m.imdb.com

This is getting to be habit. Keep rolling those nuclear dice.

One day the dice will roll snake eyes. And we will all be crapped out.

#20 | Posted by donnerboy at 2019-07-11 10:25 AM | Reply

What catastrophe? It was only 3.6 roentgen, Not great, not terrible.

#6 | Posted by GOnoles92

Uh do you even know what you are talking about? Your statement doesn't really make sense to me. Roentgen? First that is a deprecated unit - several decades ago (late 80s?). It was replaced by coulombs per kilogram. Second it is a measure of exposure to ionizing radiation not emissions.

#21 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2019-07-11 11:04 AM | Reply

"American nuclear powered vessels have doors on their belly for that"

No, they do not. Find the source of that particular conspiracy theory and squash it.

#7 | Posted by MUSTANG

Where did you even see that reference? It wasn't in a post or the articles. Are you posting on the correct thread?

#22 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2019-07-11 11:05 AM | Reply

#17 | Posted by bayviking

It is amazing how we have had minimal issues with Naval Nuclear reactors - far fewer than the Russians and they still have them with some regularity.

#23 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2019-07-11 11:13 AM | Reply

article translation: The Russian Navy almost CAUSED a worldwide catastrophe.
FTFY

#24 | Posted by e1g1 at 2019-07-11 11:43 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

"American nuclear powered vessels have doors on their belly for that"
No, they do not. Find the source of that particular conspiracy theory and squash it. - #7 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2019-07-10 06:48 PM

I'm not sure who that first quote was, but I want to 2nd Mustang's statement here.
I'm sitting on the Bush in dry-dock right now. I've walked beneath the her, the Ike, and the Ford. There is definitely no reactor access on the bottom. The closest would be the access through the mess-decks and into Hangar Bay 1 & 2 for reactor coolant pump and rod assembly work.
I've sat Reactor Operator on the Daniel Webster (MTS626) and the Mississippi (CGN40).
I've worked on the Reagan, Bush, Ike, Roosevelt, Lincoln, & Truman. I've crawled all over, in and through their engineering (RAR/MMR) spaces.
I've worked on several submarines, most recently the La Jolla and the Rhode Island.
There is no 'eject' capability for the reactors.

#25 | Posted by Avigdore at 2019-07-11 12:09 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#22/#25 That was posted by Helium (and since edited out)

#26 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2019-07-11 01:00 PM | Reply

Oh my GOD. The world almost came to an end.

#27 | Posted by Sniper at 2019-07-11 01:42 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

Anything over 16" causes permanent hearing damage. It had 18".

#1 | POSTED BY HELIUMRAT AT 2019-07-10 04:04 PM | REPLY

When the 16" guns fired on the Missouri Anything close to the turrets less than 350 lbs on the deck that wasn't tied down was blown overboard by the shock wave. That's why the wing AA guns are almost full enclosed to shield the gunners from the shock wave.

If you are far enough away on deck there are simple precautions that can prevent injury or hearing loss. In combat there were always some people on deck.

There was a documentary post gulf war which had interviews of several crew members who recounted how exciting it was to be on deck when the Missouri was lobbing both missiles and 16" shells including one guy whose team was responsible for making sure no debris was on or around the missile hatches between launches

#28 | Posted by hatter5183 at 2019-07-11 02:00 PM | Reply

article translation: The Russian Navy almost CAUSED a worldwide catastrophe.
FTFY
#24 | POSTED BY E1G1 AT 2019-07-11 11:43 AM | REPLY | NEWSWORTHY 1

Back on track. We know nothing about the situation that led to the deaths of fourteen officers from "smoke inhalation". How selective.

No radiation has been detected. Something was able to target it's battery system. The Russians claim that a gas explosion happened causing combustible fumes to be released.

This allegedly titanium hulled vehicle may be far more experimental that nuclear powered, and can dive over 8000 feet. If it was attacked the weapon can go to the same depth and penetrate a titanium hull, targeting systems without causing any external rupture.

#29 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2019-07-11 02:20 PM | Reply

#25 | Posted by Avigdore

OMG. Seriously?

Well, we can at least cut the hull open with diving suits and oxyacetylene.

#30 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2019-07-11 02:33 PM | Reply

#29 | Posted by redlightrobot

I heard it was 5500 for ASROC. They upgraded it though.

#31 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2019-07-11 02:36 PM | Reply

Nuclear reactors are 99.7% safe. We only only have 300 or so. What could go wrong?

#32 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2019-07-11 02:45 PM | Reply

#31 Less than that, especially if they're using a MK-46 Mod 1. I'm not sure if ASROC upgraded to the MK-50.

#29 I doubt it was targeted. Russian boats have a history of battery fires and "weapons issues" that have resulted in a large number of deaths.

#33 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2019-07-11 05:58 PM | Reply

Did I mention I was a TAO?

That means something very different depending on what skill community you're in ;).

#34 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2019-07-11 07:44 PM | Reply

Uh do you even know what you are talking about? - GALAXIEPETE

Haha, it's a quote from the first episode of Chernobyl, the series on HBO. All good

#35 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2019-07-11 07:45 PM | Reply

#31 Less than that, especially if they're using a MK-46 Mod 1. I'm not sure if ASROC upgraded to the MK-50.
#29 I doubt it was targeted. Russian boats have a history of battery fires and "weapons issues" that have resulted in a large number of deaths.
#33 | POSTED BY MUSTANG AT 2019-07-11 05:58 PM

Yes, but this seems like it's being passed off as that kind of issue.. I dunno. So many officers in one accident.

Perhaps this was a different kind of engagement? One that replaced fourteen officers with fourteen non-officers? What could be worth starting WWIII over, and how inside of Russian territory unless they were a. interrupted performing a mission, b. interrupting a mission, c. obfuscating for another more serious predicament.

#36 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2019-07-11 11:13 PM | Reply

Something was able to target it's battery system. The Russians claim that a gas explosion happened causing combustible fumes to be released.

Could be a battery explosion due to mismanagement/ operator error. IIRC, it was a battery fire which doomed the Argentinian submarine.

#37 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2019-07-11 11:55 PM | Reply

Mismanagement? They where Russians!

Stop spreading enemy propaganda.

#38 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2019-07-12 12:02 AM | Reply

#36 | Posted by redlightrobot

They might have been promoted after they died? I would have done that if I was Moscow admin. (Oh, wait....)

But yeah, the officers don't rush in alone. The rest us come with them. I imagine Scotty was in there too.

#39 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2019-07-12 12:20 AM | Reply

#36 | Posted by redlightrobot
They might have been promoted after they died? I would have done that if I was Moscow admin. (Oh, wait....)
But yeah, the officers don't rush in alone. The rest us come with them. I imagine Scotty was in there too.
#39 | POSTED BY HELIUMRAT AT 2019-07-12 12:20 AM

There is a probability that is the case. But it still means changing the narrative considerably and not explaining it. I doubt everything about their deaths was to do with fumes. I doubt they were the original crew. I doubt everything Russian & military.

Interesting factoid James Doohan was missing a finger from his engagement at Juno Beach, D-Day. It's clearly visible momentarily in two episodes.

#40 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2019-07-12 01:06 AM | Reply

You shouldn't be allowed to play with toys if you don't know how to take care of them.

#41 | Posted by FedUpWithPols at 2019-07-12 10:24 AM | Reply

The US Navy has a better track record than our nuclear power and weapons industry, with less steel and no concrete. You can thank the late Admiral Rickover for that. He accomplished this by living safety first with little formal training in nuclear physics. A true American hero.

#17 | POSTED BY BAYVIKING AT 2019-07-11 09:16 AM

Once upon a time, the United States had a President who was a REAL nuclear engineer, believe it or not!

#42 | Posted by john47 at 2019-07-12 10:48 AM | Reply

But he was the second worst president.

#43 | Posted by Sniper at 2019-07-12 01:07 PM | Reply

I love watching American and Russian alt-right (R)tards having a "manhood measuring contest" over who knows more about Naval Warfare and equipment. You're all probably full of ----.

Pass the hot buttered popcorn.

#44 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2019-07-12 09:11 PM | Reply

"Someone thinks nuclear powered ships are built with an escape hatch to dump an entire reactor into the ocean?
... that's not a thing.
#16 | POSTED BY SITZKRIEG"

Maybe he meant the hatch at the top, and the entire reactor plus the sub itself and the crew gets dumped.

#45 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-07-12 09:17 PM | Reply

I love watching [...] a "manhood measuring contest"

Pass the hot buttered popcorn.

#44 | POSTED BY ABORTED_MONSON

#weirdo (̿▀̿ ̿Ĺ̯̿̿▀̿ ̿)̄

#46 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-07-12 09:23 PM | Reply | Funny: 3

#46

THAT'S NOT BUTTER!!!!

#47 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-07-12 09:41 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

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