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Tuesday, July 09, 2019

Kamala Harris drew a lot of attention on the Democratic debate stage, with several breakout moments leading to surging interest about her. But one topic Harris didn't confront during the debate is her record on criminal justice that has led some critics, contrary to the progressive reputation that Harris has tried to build, to describe her not as a reformer but as a relic of a "tough on crime" era going back to the 1990s and 2000s. A generation after Democrats embraced "tough on crime" policies that swelled prison populations, progressive activists are pushing to make the criminal justice system less punitive and racist. Harris argues that her views align with the new progressive movement. But her record in California, where she was a prosecutor, district attorney, and state attorney general before representing the state in the US Senate, is likely to come in for harsh scrutiny in the coming months.

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Harris argues that she's fought to reverse incarceration, scale back the war on drugs, and address racial disparities in the criminal justice system. But as her star has risen nationally -- she's had several viral moments questioning President Donald Trump's nominees in the Senate -- those more familiar with her criminal justice record, particularly on the left, have increasingly voiced their skepticism.

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Yup, I have brought this up on the DR a few times.

But she is still better than Biden or Trump.

But of course, Bernie and Warren are the best running to get on the Dem ticket

#1 | Posted by PunchyPossum at 2019-07-09 01:54 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I'm NOT thinking she is better than Biden. I think her record will speak for itself. I actually find her pretty unlikable so far as well to be completely honest.

#2 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2019-07-09 03:08 PM | Reply

I also put Biden ahead of her.

#3 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2019-07-09 03:22 PM | Reply

Most people put Biden ahead of her. She's not helping herself, being against, for, and against private insurance in less than 2 weeks, while doubling down on failed housing policies.

#4 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2019-07-09 03:32 PM | Reply

Yup, I have brought this up on the DR a few times.
But she is still better than Biden or Trump.
But of course, Bernie and Warren are the best running to get on the Dem ticket
#1 | POSTED BY PUNCHYPOSSUM AT 2019-07-09 01:54 PM

Completely agreed on all three points. Thanks for bringing it up again.

I'm NOT thinking she is better than Biden. I think her record will speak for itself. I actually find her pretty unlikable so far as well to be completely honest.
#2 | POSTED BY GALAXIEPETE AT 2019-07-09 03:08 PM
I also put Biden ahead of her.
#3 | POSTED BY BRUCEBANNER AT 2019-07-09 03:22 PM

Bidens stance on marijuana is still claiming it's a gateway to opiod addiction. What a moron, he deserves to be laughed off every interview.

[LINKY]Throughout his career in the Senate, Biden has also consistently voted for increasingly draconian drug legislation. In addition to co-sponsoring a bill that ushered in sentencing disparities for crack versus cocaine users (essentially ensuring that low-income people of color who used crack would serve more jail time than middle-class white cocaine users), in 1996 Biden voted in support of a bill that would prohibit the drug czar's office from using federal funds "for any study or contract relating to the legalization (for a medical use or any other use) of a substance listed in schedule I of ... the Controlled Substances Act," including marijuana; the bill also noted that the drug czar should "take such actions as necessary to oppose any attempt to legalize the use of [such] a substance (in any form)." In other words, the bill dictated that the drug czar's office should actively ignore any research that may surface in favor of the benefits of cannabis, on the grounds that such research could potentially be used to argue for cannabis legalization.
Here's Harris' tweet:
We must not only legalize and regulate marijuana, but we need to expunge nonviolent marijuana-related offenses from the records of the millions who have been arrested or incarcerated.
It's quite obvious which of them take reform much more seriously.

#5 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2019-07-09 03:48 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

That article does indicate a number of inconsistencies in Harris policy ideals. Regardless, I see a lot of advocacy for prisoner rights.

Biden is a heartless authoritarian who's record indicates a total ignorance to the reality of his war against the poor, against drugs, against scientific information and ultimately against reform.

#6 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2019-07-09 03:57 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#6 sounds like he'd do a good job of implementing the DNC party platform.

#7 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-07-09 04:07 PM | Reply

#6 sounds like he'd do a good job of implementing the DNC party platform.
#7 | POSTED BY SNOOFY AT 2019-07-09 04:07 PM

Biden offers nothing. Not one thing. I have zero idea what people who consider him useful are voting on. Harris has a record and is much more reliable in terms of intelligent, educated consideration. Biden remains ignorant to even marijuana versus opiods. He's unworthy on so many levels, but enabling the enforcement of draconian laws is his single most obvious failure. He probably honestly believes he has been helpful and "good", which makes it only slightly harder to appreciate why he specifically excludes scientific input. He remains uninformed and is a danger to actual medical treatment for drug addiction and efficacy of safer alternatives. Trust Biden to fail us again.

#8 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2019-07-09 04:56 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

" I have zero idea what people who consider him useful are voting on."

A decades-long career getting things done in Washington.
You don't like the things he did, but if they were immaterial, it wouldn't matter what he did, and that's clearly not the case.

#9 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-07-09 05:00 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

" I have zero idea what people who consider him useful are voting on."
A decades-long career getting things done in Washington.
You don't like the things he did, but if they were immaterial, it wouldn't matter what he did, and that's clearly not the case.
#9 | POSTED BY SNOOFY AT 2019-07-09 05:00 PM

Correct, his legislative decisions are paramount to why he is not only "out of step" but always has been. Biden can never be president. Society has progressed well beyond what he can conceptualize, but it's his deliberate ignorance that I find more offensive. Marijuana does not lead to opiod dependency, and in fact is a gateway out from dependency on dangerous substances. I must add that if he had any education on this topic he would reverse direction immediately - but he never has, even while legalization proves self-medicating with innocuous marijuana is preferred to pharmaceutical profiteering. Doctors who groom people into drug dependency should lose their license and serve time. Pharmaceutical lobbyists should not exist.

#10 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2019-07-09 05:30 PM | Reply

No to Biden over weed? No way you voted for Obama or Hillary then. Drug warriors both.

You probably did, and you'll vote for Biden over trump.

#11 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2019-07-09 06:30 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

No to Biden over weed? No way you voted for Obama or Hillary then. Drug warriors both.
You probably did, and you'll vote for Biden over trump.
#11 | POSTED BY SITZKRIEG AT 2019-07-09 06:30 PM | FLAG: | NEWSWORTHY 1

It's like you can read in-between the lines!? Amazeballs, dude.

Obama turned out far less interested in fighting for reform than pandering to the prison and pharmaceutical industries. The only reason I bitch about him is that I did have hope that he would change the system, which he is obviously beholden to and did nothing to substantially address.

There is not a chance in Hell that I will vote for either of your corporate choices.

In fact, upon reading Harris' history I find her more appealing than ever.

#12 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2019-07-09 07:34 PM | Reply

There is not a chance in Hell that I will vote for either of your corporate choices.
In fact, upon reading Harris' history I find her more appealing than ever.

#12 | POSTED BY REDLIGHTROBOT AT 2019-07-09 07:34 PM | REPLY

My corporate choices? I don't dictate where corporations spend their campaign funds, as much fun as that would be. I've read enough on Kamala to know she is a great corporate choice. She married a DC lawyer that represents corporations and politicians on behalf of his DC based firm. He campaign is centered around handouts by executive action that massively benefit corporations.

#13 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2019-07-09 07:43 PM | Reply

If Biden isn't your first choice for a corporate candidate, the only front runner left that fits the bill is Kamala. When she withdraws, her voters will largely go to Biden as the Harris vs Biden centrist and Warren vs Bernie left wing fights continue to unfold.

#14 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2019-07-09 07:45 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

There is not a chance in Hell that I will vote for either of your corporate choices.
In fact, upon reading Harris' history I find her more appealing than ever.
#12 | POSTED BY REDLIGHTROBOT AT 2019-07-09 07:34 PM | REPLY
My corporate choices? I don't dictate where corporations spend their campaign funds, as much fun as that would be. I've read enough on Kamala to know she is a great corporate choice. She married a DC lawyer that represents corporations and politicians on behalf of his DC based firm. He campaign is centered around handouts by executive action that massively benefit corporations.
#13 | POSTED BY SITZKRIEG AT 2019-07-09 07:43 PM

Good to know that my choices aren't held hostage by that system.

I'm not endorsing Harris, but I didn't know how much she instituted any prison reform. She is more enlightened than most candidates, but you are ultimately right - corporate money Trumps progressive legislation.

Seeing her straight talk with Biden was great. He deserves to confront all of his bad decisions, particularly pandering to social conservatives desire to enforce racism.

#15 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2019-07-09 07:51 PM | Reply

It's quite obvious which of them take reform much more seriously.
#5 | POSTED BY REDLIGHTROBOT AT 2019-07-09 03:48 PM | REPLY | FLAG:

I think taking it slow is okay. We really don't have enough studies on the effects of smoking compared to the other things we take for pleasure or pain.

#16 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2019-07-09 10:13 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

"(CNN)Joe Biden is defending what many Democrats see as all but indefensible: the 1994 crime bill.

At virtually every campaign stop, the former vice president fields questions about the consequences of the measure, which was signed into law by President Bill Clinton 25 years ago and is now a potential weight around Biden's 2020 presidential bid. It's the starkest example of how a signature piece of his legislation, which most Democrats supported at the time, is viewed in a far different light today."

www.cnn.com

#17 | Posted by danni at 2019-07-10 01:29 PM | Reply

"Marijuana does not lead to opiod dependency, and in fact is a gateway out from dependency on dangerous substances."

Biden has presumably based his drug paranoia off the life of Beau, who started with weed and went on to harder drugs. That whole "gateway drug" thing.

Thing is, I don't really care about his personal views, I care about his ability to implement the Democrat's political views.

I seem to be in a very small minority around here that understands the difference between personal views and policy.

#18 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-07-10 02:19 PM | Reply

"Marijuana does not lead to opiod dependency, and in fact is a gateway out from dependency on dangerous substances."
Biden has presumably based his drug paranoia off the life of Beau, who started with weed and went on to harder drugs. That whole "gateway drug" thing.
Thing is, I don't really care about his personal views, I care about his ability to implement the Democrat's political views.
I seem to be in a very small minority around here that understands the difference between personal views and policy.
#18 | POSTED BY SNOOFY AT 2019-07-10 02:19 PM

Does Biden understand the distinction? His legislation appears not to.

Also, one might imagine he would be significantly invested in correcting this three strikes policy, but he would rather destroy lives.

That makes his policy a personal matter, uninformed, short-sighted and harming those who need mental and physical assistance rather than imprisonment.

States are now having to contend with this law while legalizing marijuana. The multitude of states prisons are filled with non-violent marijuana users, many who's lives were ruined by the draconian policies of Biden. They lost their homes, jobs and families. Uncle Joe has never addressed that part of his policy - he simply doesn't care enough to be informed. He thinks raves are dangerous and diverted money to states to crack down on kids, again ruining lives time and again. Biden is obviously extremely out of touch with reality and always has been.

So yes, you don't seem to understand the difference at all.

Corporate Democrats views are obsolete and generally parasitic. Why has drug use never been considered a medical issue? Because prisons make a better societal investment? Because he is a bigoted sack of nonsense. I hope his career ends now.

Those of us who have lost people due to this policy deserve to have his entire agenda confronted for what it is - horrible, expensive and wrong. Oh, and personal. If I could just change the minds of those who deny treatment for addiction I would, but authoritarians believe there is no profit incentive in maintaining a healthy society.

Corporate Democrats like Biden are functionally Republicans, imo.

#19 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2019-07-10 06:31 PM | Reply

Corky's not gonna like this traitor talk.

#20 | Posted by Spork at 2019-07-10 06:54 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Kamala put a lot of brothas behind bars, and was pretty zealous doing it. This will keep coming up, just like the one about her being the former San Fran mayor's sidepiece.

#21 | Posted by Spork at 2019-07-10 07:01 PM | Reply

Gabbard wants to legalize mj at the federal level:

www.forbes.com

#22 | Posted by Karabekian at 2019-07-10 07:24 PM | Reply

I'd buy a Tulsi swimsuit calendar.

#23 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-07-11 07:27 AM | Reply

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