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Friday, June 28, 2019

Dean Obeidallah: After 10 years in which not one child died in U.S. custody, at least six children have died in the last eight months. The United Nations wants to find out why.

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Good idea.

#1 | Posted by Zed at 2019-06-28 09:21 AM | Reply

The Trump White House finds itself under scrutiny for the death of a seven-year-old Guatemalan migrant girl who was taken into custody of U.S. Customs and Border Protection, but 18 previous migrant deaths during the Obama years went nearly ignored by the administration's critics in Congress.
"Does the administration take responsibility for a parent taking a child on a trek through Mexico to get to this country? No," White House spokesman Hogan Gidley said to a reporter who asked if the administration took responsibility for the child's death.

#2 | Posted by Sniper at 2019-06-28 09:24 AM | Reply

Team Dotard blames drowning victims for dying.

www.huffpost.com

#3 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2019-06-28 09:49 AM | Reply

Perhaps you aren't paying attention ...

those are ObamaFamilyCamps ...
www.washingtonexaminer.com

#4 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-06-28 10:08 AM | Reply

This photo of a dead father and daughter shows the true nature of Trump's immigration policy

www.vox.com

Pure MAGAtry.

#5 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2019-06-28 10:12 AM | Reply

Obligatory

#6 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2019-06-28 10:41 AM | Reply

Flood the border with people walking across the desert, what does one expect to happen? More people die in traffic accidents, recreational accidents, etc., on holiday weekends as well. More people and traffic=more fatalities and injuries. Duh.

#7 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-06-28 10:47 AM | Reply

Flood the border with people walking across the desert, what does one expect to happen? More people die in traffic accidents, recreational accidents, etc., on holiday weekends as well. More people and traffic=more fatalities and injuries. Duh.

#7 | POSTED BY NULLIFIDIAN AT 2019-06-28 10:47 AM | REPLY

So why didn't kids die in US custody when the rates were higher in 2007-2009?

What changed? Hmmmm. Who changed it? hmmmmmm.

Mass detention of children with immune systems that have not fully developed under inhumane conditions with no hygiene is something new and Unique to Trump.

It is a situation that anyone in healthcare can tell you is the recipe for outbreaks of every illness you can think of.

#8 | Posted by hatter5183 at 2019-06-28 11:03 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 2

In other news, 7 homeless people died in camps in Los Angeles over the past 48 hours.

"Meh, they already vote for us."

-Mayor Garcetti and the rest of the Left

#9 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-06-28 11:06 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

--The United Nations wants to find out why.

The UN is a corrupt cabal of 3rd world dictators that don't give a damn about their members' vastly greater human-rights violations, only the US and Israel. We should kick them out of the country. They can set up headquarters in Somalia.

#10 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-06-28 11:16 AM | Reply

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In other news, 7 homeless people died in camps in Los Angeles over the past 48 hours.
"Meh, they already vote for us."
-Mayor Garcetti and the rest of the Left

#9 | POSTED BY RIGHTOCENTER AT 2019-06-28 11:06 AM | REPLY |

Were we paying someone $755/person per night to take care of them?
Were they unable to leave if they wanted to?
Were they under the care of the US government and not allowed to seek any other source of care?

Your false equivalency so you can pretend warehousing children is ok is noted. You are out of uniform blockfuhrer

#11 | Posted by hatter5183 at 2019-06-28 11:25 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Just what was the cause of death of each of the 10 children? Did they arrive here already ill, etc.?

#12 | Posted by MSgt at 2019-06-28 11:27 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

So, do Liberals still think there isn't a crisis at the border that requires lots of resources to fix? Or are you going to continue to be hypocrites and say there isn't a problem until a Dem becomes President so you can make it a big issue again? Trump has been saying for several years now there is a problem. Dems have ignored him and fought against him, even saying it isn't a crisis. Yet, kids are dying and you still have not provided any answers or given the resources needed to fix it. So, yes, there are children in less than favorable conditions, and it is a crisis...and ignoring it because you are filled with partisan hate has caused the crisis.

It's funny how Liberals use an article like this and ignore the entire premise that there is a huge problem that they are ON RECORD as saying it isn't a problem.

#13 | Posted by humtake at 2019-06-28 11:40 AM | Reply

Seriously, I'm reading old Trump quotes where he says MANY MANY times that there are too many people coming over the border. So many that we can't attend to them all. So many that conditions at the border are worsening. Obama is even on record as saying the same thing. Yet, since a Rep is in office, Dems have completely tried to ignore the whole problem and then blame it on Trump. Obama knew there was a problem, Trump knows there is a problem...but Liberals just decide to ignore them. And guess what happened...bad things. A child could understand the cause an effect, but grown ass Liberals can't seem to connect the dots.

#14 | Posted by humtake at 2019-06-28 11:43 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Kids always did in concentration camps. Same principle different era.

#15 | Posted by Badcat at 2019-06-28 11:55 AM | Reply

Were we paying someone $755/person per night to take care of them?

Do you think we should pay less?

Were they unable to leave if they wanted to?

Where would they go? Wandering the neighborhood?

Were they under the care of the US government and not allowed to seek any other source of care?

Best care in the world.

Your false equivalency so you can pretend warehousing children is ok is noted.

You turning a blind eye towards people dying in the hands of the government is also noted.

10 adults died in the hands of Obama administration, did you care? NO, you didn't, NOT ONE BIT.

If you cared you would have pressed the Democrats to solve the problem 10yrs ago, instead you sat on your hands for a decade, calling anyone that brought it too your attention a racist/xenophobe.

Now the Russian collusion falls apart, and its onto the next "crisis". Only this time you forgot it all started under Obama.

Concern trolling that is all you have.

#16 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-06-28 12:16 PM | Reply

This photo of a dead father and daughter shows the true nature of Trump's immigration policy
www.vox.com
Pure MAGAtry.
#5 | Posted by reinheitsgebot

Someone dies in mwxico and it is Trump's fault? funny

#17 | Posted by Sniper at 2019-06-28 12:16 PM | Reply

It is a situation that anyone in healthcare can tell you is the recipe for outbreaks of every illness you can think of.
#8 | Posted by hatter5183

You are describing their old home south of the border.

#18 | Posted by Sniper at 2019-06-28 12:18 PM | Reply

"Best care in the world."

Total and complete nonsense.

"Now the Russian collusion falls apart..."

Not for lack of trying by Team Trump, that's for sure.

#19 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-06-28 12:19 PM | Reply

What changed? Hmmmm. Who changed it? hmmmmmm.

Numbers, the "immigrants" are realizing they just set foot in America, go through the "process" and they get a right to work.

Bring a kid and you get to stay ...

Thank prosecutorial discretion and deferred action under Obama, it doesn't happen immediately but over time word gets out how to stay in America.

#20 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-06-28 12:19 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Were we paying someone $755/person per night to take care of them?
Were they unable to leave if they wanted to?
Were they under the care of the US government and not allowed to seek any other source of care?
Your false equivalency so you can pretend warehousing children is ok is noted. You are out of uniform blockfuhrer
#11 | Posted by hatter5183

Government health care lady. ain't it great?

#21 | Posted by Sniper at 2019-06-28 12:21 PM | Reply

"10 adults died in the hands of Obama administration, did you care? "

In the real world, adults die. Some could've been elderly, some terminal already.

In the real world, kids don't die, not naturally, and didn't under Obama.

Telling, you had to move the goalposts, and into foggy territory as well, to try to find a false equivalence.

#22 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-06-28 12:21 PM | Reply

Total and complete nonsense.

Ask the millionaire foreigners why they come to America for medical procedures.... go ahead ask them.

Not for lack of trying by Team Trump, that's for sure.

Did it fall apart or not .... I mean if there was fire there, you think we would be talking about kids on the border? Hell no ...

#23 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-06-28 12:22 PM | Reply

In the real world, adults die. Some could've been elderly, some terminal already.

So do children..... you gotta point?

#24 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-06-28 12:22 PM | Reply

--What changed? Hmmmm. Who changed it? hmmmmmm.

Young, able-bodied men trickling in individually and not applying for asylum vs. large groups of families with children overloading facilities. Don't you know anything? Hmmmmmmmmm?

#25 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-06-28 12:23 PM | Reply

"So do children..... "

Not under Obama they didn't.

"you gotta point?"

Yes, it's the one that flew over your head.

#26 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-06-28 12:23 PM | Reply

"Ask the millionaire foreigners why they come to America for medical procedures"

Might as well ask the tens of thousands of Americans who go abroad for medical procedures.

#27 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-06-28 12:29 PM | Reply

"Did it fall apart or not ..."

Read the Report: Mueller concluded Team Trump was too stupid to know they were breaking the law.

#28 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-06-28 12:31 PM | Reply

In other news,
#9 | POSTED BY RIGHTOCENTER

What a clever way to announce a deflection.

By the way.

Deflection noted.

#29 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-06-28 12:33 PM | Reply

In other news, 7 homeless people died in camps in Los Angeles over the past 48 hours.

Oh.

Best not to care about dead children then.

People die every day, so no deaths matter, per your "logic."

#30 | Posted by JOE at 2019-06-28 12:36 PM | Reply

This is a good place to put this: www.drudge.com

#31 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2019-06-28 01:03 PM | Reply

Mass detention of children with immune systems that have not fully developed

Citation needed.

#32 | Posted by jpw at 2019-06-28 01:09 PM | Reply

#9 | POSTED BY RIGHTOCENTER AT 2019-06-28 11:06 AM | REPLY |

Were we paying someone $755/person per night to take care of them?
Were they unable to leave if they wanted to?
Were they under the care of the US government and not allowed to seek any other source of care?

Your false equivalency so you can pretend warehousing children is ok is noted. You are out of uniform blockfuhrer

#11 | Posted by hatter5183

Yeah that was a pretty pathetic post.

#33 | Posted by jpw at 2019-06-28 01:13 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Were they under the care of the US government and not allowed to seek any other source of care?

Best care in the world.

Really? God you're dumb. Seriously, just STFU.

#34 | Posted by jpw at 2019-06-28 01:14 PM | Reply

#4 | Posted by AndreaMackris

Did you read the little tidbit about how they "were not build to house children" in your link? Who's doing that exactly?

#35 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2019-06-28 01:17 PM | Reply

Total and complete nonsense.

Ask the millionaire foreigners why they come to America for medical procedures.... go ahead ask them.

Because America is particularly stratified by class?

Yeah, top dollar care in the US is among the best in the world.

Problem is that it's out of reach for all but the super wealthy.

Also, why are you using that as a justification for your comment that these migrants are getting top notch care? Are they millionaire migrants?

#36 | Posted by jpw at 2019-06-28 01:17 PM | Reply

Yeah, top dollar care in the US is among the best in the world.
Problem is that it's out of reach for all but the super wealthy.

Also out of reach on the ACA Exchange. Cheap insurance is not the answer for American healthcare.

Obamacare is a pig with lipstick, party dress, and high heels.

#37 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-06-28 01:23 PM | Reply

Also out of reach on the ACA Exchange. Cheap insurance is not the answer for American healthcare.

Obamacare is a pig with lipstick, party dress, and high heels.

You better stretch after that reach to drag Obama into this.

Top dollar care will never be the standard. You're dumber than I thought if you think that that's true.

#38 | Posted by jpw at 2019-06-28 01:29 PM | Reply

-Problem is that it's out of reach for all but the super wealthy.

I'm part of a group trust where about 2,700 members are insured.

It's a really good plan. we're self insured up to a point and then a carrier takes over on the cost and we use Blue Cross to administrate it.

Perhaps you're referring to "top dollar care" and mean something I don't have access to....fair enough.

But outside of that....I would challenge the notion that only the "super wealthy" get great care here.

I get we have issues with fair access to care here...no doubt about that and I'm not ragging on Obamacare.

#39 | Posted by eberly at 2019-06-28 01:40 PM | Reply

"Problem is that it's out of reach for all but the super wealthy."

#36 | POSTED BY JPW AT 2019-06-28 01:17 PM | FLAG: Wrong. When it was discovered that I had an extremely bad brain tumor, [so bad, due to location, etc. that a very well reputed neurosurgeon would not touch it] I was referred to one of the top 'skull based' neurosurgeons [a specialty within a specialty] in the country and I have Tricare [military] insurance plus a Tricare supplement - wealthy was not a factor.

#40 | Posted by MSgt at 2019-06-28 01:47 PM | Reply

But outside of that....I would challenge the notion that only the "super wealthy" get great care here.

I'm not saying that either.

I'm just pointing out the absurdity of saying we have the best care in the world and as evidence we should look at wealthy foreigners coming to the US for their procedure. You can always get the best if you have sufficient $$$.

The key is what can you get with decent insurance or some out of pocket expenditures, and I don't think that that is too far off from what is available in many other industrialized countries.

#41 | Posted by jpw at 2019-06-28 01:50 PM | Reply

wealthy was not a factor.

#40 | Posted by MSgt

You were also in a very niche area.

Playing around the edges is never going to tell you the story of what's happening in the giant pile in the middle.

#42 | Posted by jpw at 2019-06-28 01:51 PM | Reply

41

agreed. fair enough

#43 | Posted by eberly at 2019-06-28 01:52 PM | Reply

The key is what can you get with decent insurance or some out of pocket expenditures, and I don't think that that is too far off from what is available in many other industrialized countries.

Really? The data consistently shows that not to be true. Americans pay more for substandard care, lesser access, and worse health outcomes.

#44 | Posted by JOE at 2019-06-28 02:02 PM | Reply

I consider myself on the conservative side but I cannot get behind the deplorable treatment of these children. We literally treat death row inmates better than these migrant children. As Americans we need to hold ourselves to a higher standard than this. It takes a real lack of character to deny people basic human rights such as medicine, cleanliness, and nourishment.

#45 | Posted by byrdman at 2019-06-28 03:19 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Wow the St Petersburg (R)tard troll patrol is working overtime in this thread today.
You guys not reaching daddy Vlad's quota this month?

Question: does Vlad pay time and a half for OT? Or are you salary?

#46 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2019-06-28 03:55 PM | Reply

I consider myself on the conservative side but I cannot get behind the deplorable treatment of these children. We literally treat death row inmates better than these migrant children. As Americans we need to hold ourselves to a higher standard than this. It takes a real lack of character to deny people basic human rights such as medicine, cleanliness, and nourishment.

#45 | POSTED BY BYRDMAN

Good on you. Hopefully this is enough for you not to vote for those responsible (see the GOnP) in the future.

#47 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2019-06-28 03:58 PM | Reply

In other news, 7 homeless people died in camps in Los Angeles over the past 48 hours.
"Meh, they already vote for us."
-Mayor Garcetti and the rest of the Left
#9 | POSTED BY RIGHTOCENTER

^
Deflection noted.

#48 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-06-28 03:59 PM | Reply

#45 gets it.
Why is it so hard for the rest of the right-wingers?
Seriously, why???

#49 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-06-28 03:59 PM | Reply

#44 data is a little old it I'm on my phone so greater depth of research is a little hard to do.

www.internationalinsurance.com

We lose out on cost, efficiency and equality.

If you actually get care in the US it's usually good. More expensive than it should be, but good.

Also keep in mind this is looking at only 11 countries. Would you consider yourself s$&@ if you were11th overall in the world at something?

#50 | Posted by jpw at 2019-06-28 04:02 PM | Reply

If you actually get care in the US it's usually good

Many people don't. But define "good." The US spends about twice what other high-income nations do on health care but has the lowest life expectancy and the highest infant mortality rates.

Yes, "if" you are very sick and "if" you have good insurance or lots of money, the quality of care will be good. But those are a lot of "ifs" and certainly not representative of the day to day average joe healthcare you seemed to be talking about.

#51 | Posted by JOE at 2019-06-28 05:25 PM | Reply

Would you consider yourself s$&@ if you were11th overall in the world at something?

With the amount of wealth in this country, and for what we currently spend? Absolutely.

#52 | Posted by JOE at 2019-06-28 05:26 PM | Reply

We also have the widest gap between poor and wealthy people on access to quality health care.
www.commonwealthfund.org

I'd encourage you to look at this very in-depth comparison of our system to that of other major countries.

interactives.commonwealthfund.org

#53 | Posted by JOE at 2019-06-28 05:41 PM | Reply

Obviously we don't have the resources to handle this.

Good thing the Senate bill passed with a huge bipartisan majority and Pelosi has agreed to bring it to the House for a vote.

Hopefully it quickly passes and Trump quickly signs it.

#54 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-06-28 05:52 PM | Reply

Good on you. Hopefully this is enough for you not to vote for those responsible (see the GOnP) in the future.

#47 | POSTED BY ABORTED_MONSON AT 2019-06-28 03:58 PM |

Yes there is no way I will vote for Trump in 2020 again.

#55 | Posted by byrdman at 2019-06-28 05:54 PM | Reply

"Obviously we don't have the resources to handle this."

Nonsense.
What we don't have is the resources to handle it the cruel and unusual way Trump demands.
It's a crisis of Trump's own making.

#56 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-06-28 06:33 PM | Reply

What we don't have is the resources...

If that were the case the funding bill never would have had anything more than miniscule Democrat support.

These kids are a political cudgel for you.

#57 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-06-28 06:35 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

These kids are a political cudgel for Trump.

#58 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-06-28 07:24 PM | Reply

The cudgel intended to deter future immigrants.

#59 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-06-28 07:25 PM | Reply

That's why it's political. Because of the reason for it.

#60 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-06-28 07:25 PM | Reply

There were 140K appended this month, and many, a disproportional number of those were children, many having traveled across Mexico from Central America. I am surprised there have not been more die. Do the adults that brought them here hold any responsibility?

#61 | Posted by docnjo at 2019-06-28 08:43 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Andrew Sullivan: 2020 Dems Are Offering A Great Deal ... To People Who Aren't Americans

As Sullivan puts it, "This amounts to an open invitation to anyone on the planet to just show up and cross the border. The worst that can happen is you get denied asylum by a judge, in which case you can just disappear and there's a 1 percent chance that you'll be caught in a given year." If you want to know why there's a surge at the border it's not just because things are bad in Central America. It's because we're giving away permanent residence, free school, and maybe soon free health care, etc. to anyone who arrives.

hotair.com

#62 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-06-28 08:50 PM | Reply

Trump policies are the best ever at killing children, bigly!

#63 | Posted by hatter5183 at 2019-06-28 09:03 PM | Reply

"Do the adults that brought them here hold any responsibility?
#61 | POSTED BY DOCNJO"

Interesting question, but irrelevant to the responsibilities of the adults who now detain them.

#64 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-06-28 10:33 PM | Reply

"Do the adults that brought them here hold any responsibility"

Not once the kids are taken from them.

If someone else claims authority, that entity assumes responsibility.

With authority comes responsibility, yes?

#65 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-06-28 10:37 PM | Reply

Hey look, a judge ordered the US into mediation for the deplorable conditions at the bloated child rapist's concentration camps.

www.politicususa.com

#66 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2019-06-29 05:44 PM | Reply

Mass detention of children with immune systems that have not fully developed
Citation needed.

#32 | POSTED BY JPW AT 2019-06-28 01:09 PM | REPLY

You need a citation to tell you water is wet too? Anybody who has ever had children or even knew anyone who had children knows that kids get sick more than adults. Just because they are young they have not been exposed to many versions of the common cold or stomach bugs. When you put a bunch of kids together it is almost a virtual guarantee that at least one of them has something the rest never have and the next thing you know all of the kids are sick. It happens at school, daycare, shows, and anywhere else you put a bunch of kids together. poor hygiene adds to the fire.

Most of these illnesses are viral. You can only get sick once by any single virus if you have a normal immune system. Adults have been exposed to many of these throughout their childhood and groups of adults dont have the same risk groups of children do.

#67 | Posted by hatter5183 at 2019-06-29 06:30 PM | Reply

you know all of the kids are sick.

Yes, day care aged kids are disease factories.

It has nothing to do with undeveloped immune systems and everything to do with they're simply immunologically naive to common illnesses.

You can only get sick once by any single virus if you have a normal immune system.

Not at all true for several reasons.

#68 | Posted by jpw at 2019-06-30 12:42 AM | Reply

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