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Wednesday, June 26, 2019

A Florida woman's effort to protect herself from domestic violence has become a flashpoint in the debate over gun rights and victims' safety.

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This case is ridiculous. I hope all the chages are dropped A.S.A.P.

#1 | Posted by danni at 2019-06-25 02:02 PM | Reply

I hope all the chages are dropped A.S.A.P.

It's still breaking and entering Danni. She had no right to go breaking into his home that she didnt live in and take something out of there.

#2 | Posted by boaz at 2019-06-25 03:22 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

They are married. If he's paying rent/mortgage on the place with marital income then doesn't she have the right to be there? Same goes for ownership of the guns if they were bought with marital income.

#3 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2019-06-25 03:38 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

This is a very interesting case.

I can see charging her with B/E but theft is more difficult. People who steal property don't immediately turn it over to police.

#4 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-06-25 03:54 PM | Reply

I heard today about a couple here in Florida, I think, who have been separated for two years. Anyway, the husband won the lottery for $80 million, the Judge ordered him to hand over half to the wife.

"If he's paying rent/mortgage on the place with marital income then doesn't she have the right to be there?"

Unless he had a restraining order against her which I didn't see in the article.

#5 | Posted by danni at 2019-06-25 04:26 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Unless he had a restraining order against her which I didn't see in the article.

She had one on him, so why is she allowed to go to his separated home, which she has no need to be there.

#6 | Posted by boaz at 2019-06-25 06:28 PM | Reply

Unless he had a restraining order against her which I didn't see in the article.
She had one on him, so why is she allowed to go to his separated home, which she has no need to be there.
#6 | POSTED BY BOAZ AT 2019-06-25 06:28 PM

Considerate of her to not have the police attempt to confiscate the guns and get her husband murdered by police?

Police interactions are violent and deadly. I don't recommend one.

#7 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2019-06-26 02:16 AM | Reply

This is why we have laws ... 'cause there's not nearly as much money to be made in common sense

#8 | Posted by 1947steamer at 2019-06-26 07:59 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

They wonder why we teach our children never to trust the police?

If I were her, I would have disassembled them, tossed all the piece in hefty bags. Then, drive down to towards and tossed them somewhere off the Seven Mile Bridge.

Go find them if you think you can, cause I don't know nuffin'.

Sucka.

#9 | Posted by KillerKarlKrupt at 2019-06-26 08:03 AM | Reply

Men always punish women for defending themselves.

#10 | Posted by MrSilenceDogood at 2019-06-26 08:18 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

He used his car not the guns.
Leave the damn guns alone, take his car away.

#11 | Posted by phesterOBoyle at 2019-06-26 08:34 AM | Reply

Leave the damn guns alone, take his car away.

POSTED BY PHESTEROBOYLE AT 2019-06-26 08:34 AM | REPLY

Let me guess. He has no manhood without them??

#12 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2019-06-26 08:36 AM | Reply

This is just another way the justice system fails Americans EVERY SINGLE DAMN DAY.

When he was arrested for domestic violence his guns should have been taken away.

Women who are domestically abused like this are 5x more likely to be killed by their spouse if they own guns.

#13 | Posted by Nixon at 2019-06-26 08:45 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Right away I would deny they where my guns and the whole thing was a set-up. Remember who 90% of the law points too? The person in possession.

If this wasn't using police for revenge, why didn't she at least film it or get a credible witness?

Full extent of the law. BANG.

#14 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2019-06-26 08:49 AM | Reply

Did she take his Skittles and tea?

#15 | Posted by catdog at 2019-06-26 09:03 AM | Reply

#15 It was Skittles and WATERMELON DRANK. Sheesh get it right. :)

#16 | Posted by Nixon at 2019-06-26 09:12 AM | Reply

"Right away I would deny they where my guns and the whole thing was a set-up. Remember who 90% of the law points too? The person in possession."

Since it was marital property she should have done exactly that.

"If this wasn't using police for revenge, why didn't she at least film it or get a credible witness?"

I would guess she knows her husband is a psycho, which he proved when he rammed her car, she was just trying to make it harder for him to murder her. I applaud her, she did exactly the right thing and I hope her pathetic excuse for a man husband fumes about the loss of his erotic toys.

#17 | Posted by danni at 2019-06-26 09:31 AM | Reply

It's still breaking and entering Danni. She had no right to go breaking into his home that she didnt live in and take something out of there.

We all know her conduct meets the technical definition of a crime. The question is whether police, in their discretion (which they exercise on a daily basis), under these circumstances, should have jailed her.

#18 | Posted by JOE at 2019-06-26 09:50 AM | Reply

The question is whether police, in their discretion (which they exercise on a daily basis), under these circumstances, should have jailed her.

#18 | POSTED BY JOE

Answer Yes.

I am not a big gun proponent, but I do believe in law and order.

It's interesting to read the delta between this and the SCOTUS decision responses.

#19 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-06-26 10:07 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

so ANDYCRACKERASS believes in law and order...what a hoot from a trump -------, you just can't symp/empathize with real women

#20 | Posted by 1947steamer at 2019-06-26 10:39 AM | Reply

6 days in jail for surrender of marital property to the police. 1 day for attempted automobile homicide. This is the madness of Republican governance. How many must due before Florida comes to it's senses. As many as must die before Republican election fraud is halted.

#21 | Posted by bayviking at 2019-06-26 10:59 AM | Reply

"1 day for attempted automobile homicide. This is the madness of Republican governance."

Love is madness but this is madness of guns.

If he gave her a key it is not breaking and entering. I believe that is permission.

However, she may not have marital rights to the guns as he may have acquired them after the separation. But she feared for her life and gave them to the police immediately.

Jailing her was stupid. I am proud of her for taking such bold action against an obviously unstable man.

Love hurts.
Love scars.
Love wounds and marks.

#22 | Posted by donnerboy at 2019-06-26 11:14 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

PS.

He should have locked them up. As everyone should be required to do by law.

#23 | Posted by donnerboy at 2019-06-26 11:15 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Didn't the police officer violate the law by accepting the guns? I suspect the officer knew her husband, has a dislike for women, and especially women who stand up to violent husbands.

#24 | Posted by danni at 2019-06-26 11:26 AM | Reply

#5 | Posted by danni

That was Michigan with the lottery win. Until the divorce is final it is joint property and income and I am not aware of any state that doesn't apply to maybe our resident laywers do? So there was not theft.

For that matter I am willing to bet there is no B&E either but I can't be sure. Since he assaulted her once with a deadly weapon (a car) the police should have taken the right to and also taken them IMHO but I don't believe they have the right and did not take them.

If I was her I would move FAR away and have a PO Box FAR away from there and have someone he doesn't know get the mail.

#25 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2019-06-26 11:41 AM | Reply

#19 | Posted by AndreaMackris

Soooooo you are okay with someone who has tried to kill or at least cause someone else great bodily harm having guns? Or was it just wrong she recovered joint property and turned it over to the police? I guess I don't follow. I'm not sure how she actually entered the apartment - hell the landlord may have let her in. As for "armed robbery" what a joke. IMHO All the charges are a joke except possibly the B&E and I think that is likely pretty grey.

#26 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2019-06-26 11:51 AM | Reply

If he gave her a key it is not breaking and entering. I believe that is permission.

As the article says, she broke in, she didnt have a key.

She committed a crime right there. She needs to be prosecuted.

#27 | Posted by boaz at 2019-06-26 12:12 PM | Reply

Look how upset Boaz is that someone took away a violent man's guns. Gun fetishists are truly sick.

#28 | Posted by JOE at 2019-06-26 12:36 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

"Courtney Irby told police that she believed he wouldn't turn in his guns himself, so she took action."

This is the problem with the whole situation and why she should be charged with theft. But the penalty should be the least severe ever given for this type of crime. Making moral exceptions to laws is a slippery slope we should NEVER go down. What's next...a broke landlord who can't pay his bills takes all of the stuff from a tenants apartment because he "thinks" the tenant won't pay? Let's go even further...a woman isn't hired for a charity job because the hiring manager "thinks" she is going to get pregnant and miss work which would cause some homeless people to not get their daily meals? Morality doesn't give a free pass to break laws and it shouldn't. It's the consequences of breaking a law for moral reasons that need to be looked at, not the law itself.

#29 | Posted by humtake at 2019-06-26 12:58 PM | Reply

She committed a crime right there. She needs to be prosecuted.

#27 | POSTED BY BOAZ

Good luck with that. I guess if they can find 12 women hating incel's like Boaz they just might be able to convict otherwise she walks.

#30 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2019-06-26 01:24 PM | Reply

If I was her I would move FAR away and have a PO Box FAR away from there and have someone he doesn't know get the mail.

#25 | Posted by GalaxiePete

It is a good suggestion and she should get as far from him as possible.

But, People do not always have that choice. Especially women. She may be tied to the area for many reasons, the least of which is her job. Because now she probably has to work to live. It is probably no longer an option for her to not work(there doesn't seem to be oodles of money involved).

#31 | Posted by donnerboy at 2019-06-26 02:55 PM | Reply

#31 | Posted by donnerboy

I know this and frankly all too often you read about one of them and other people ending up dead.

#32 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2019-06-26 03:23 PM | Reply

BTW everyone - it's up to the prosecutor to actually press charges and not the police. Prosecutor is a political position. With this coverage charges should evaporate.

#33 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2019-06-26 03:25 PM | Reply

BTW - My cousin was married to an abusive -----. We all knew it but "love"... She isn't a small woman at 6'2" and at the time an athletic build. He came home one night and beat her up yet again and then passed out. She tied him to the bed and proceeded to beat him thoroughly with a couple items on hand. Then she untied him and drove him to the hospital. He declined to name who did it to him or press charges. Divorce went pretty smoothly. I know this isn't the usual coarse of events but that changed her and she is a legend in the family now.

#34 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2019-06-26 03:31 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"She tied him to the bed and proceeded to beat him thoroughly with a couple items on hand."

Kinky! Sounds like 50 shades of get the frack out of here!

Though. Some men might like that.

#35 | Posted by donnerboy at 2019-06-26 03:51 PM | Reply

She tied him to the bed and proceeded to beat him thoroughly with a couple items on hand.

Translation:

She stuck her big black ----- up his colon without any lotion or vaseline. She would take it out and beat him with it. Then she'd stick it up his colon again and again. He cried like a little girl for mercy but she continued until she got tired. She took a nap. When she woke up, she did it again.

He was so embarrassed and a shamed he got sexually assaulted by his wife, he said nothing to the ER techs.

#36 | Posted by KillerKarlKrupt at 2019-06-26 06:05 PM | Reply

Those cops were just thinking of themselves and their guns as there is a huge percentage of law enforcement officers that abuse their spouses and so these cops at the station read the law to the letter instead of using on the spot discretion to what was really happening. I mean the woman had a court order for her protection and almost every time in this situation they will go remove the weapons themselves based upon the court order to do so. She was only doing their lazy ass' work for them.

#37 | Posted by Tknees2 at 2019-06-27 12:01 AM | Reply

Look how upset Boaz is that someone took away a violent man's guns. Gun fetishists are truly sick.

#28 | POSTED BY JOE AT 2019-06-26 12:36 PM | FLAG:

The story has a happy ending. He got his guns back.

#38 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2019-06-27 09:03 AM | Reply

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