Drudge Retort: The Other Side of the News
Monday, June 24, 2019

Democrats are feeling a sense of déjà vu as infighting among presidential candidates intensifies. And with less than a week until the first 2020 primary debate, the sniping is expected to worsen. Democrats are concerned they will have another 2016 on their hands, when the primary grew so bitter that some supporters of Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) intentionally sat on the sidelines instead of supporting the party's eventual nominee, Hillary Clinton. They are worried that a long, bruising primary season could ultimately benefit President Trump on Election Day.

More

Comments

Admin's note: Participants in this discussion must follow the site's moderation policy. Profanity will be filtered. Abusive conduct is not allowed.

We need to come together, not tear each other apart.

#1 | Posted by leftcoastlawyer at 2019-06-23 08:33 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Rightofcenter other account comes out as a Dem now LOL

#2 | Posted by PunchyPossum at 2019-06-23 10:16 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

--a long, bruising primary season

"Billions and billions of popcorn kernels will be popped."

--Carl Sagan

#3 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-06-24 12:41 PM | Reply

Wow I read this and could not believe my eyes. It said that Trump won because Sanders supporters were pissed at Hillary and the DNC and stayed home instead of voting for her. I thought it was the Russians?!?!?

#4 | Posted by fishpaw at 2019-06-24 12:51 PM | Reply

"The spirit reveals that he is concealing two wretched children in his robes, which he calls Ignorance and Want".
...Dickens

the more ways things change the more ways they stay the same

#5 | Posted by 1947steamer at 2019-06-24 12:52 PM | Reply

We need to come together, not tear each other apart.

#1 | POSTED BY LEFTCOASTLAWYER

The Dems are making it hard to care when they just want to push corporate neo-liberals, who have nothing but half-ass fixes for full fledged problems.

#6 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2019-06-24 12:54 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

This should be a lot simpler, but it's what happens when a large group of smart yet civilized folks get in a room.

I see Biden/Harris as unbeatable. Folks will look at Diamond Joe and think: 'Oh him. I know him. He's been around. We need someone who's been around, not these folks who don't know how to act on a big stage.' Women and people of color will look at Sen. Harris and think: 'Wow, a smart, aggressive woman with a track record in important jobs. She's far better than Mr. White Bread Ken-Doll.'

Now, Dems: just don't screw it up by hosting a circular firing squad...

#7 | Posted by catdog at 2019-06-24 12:55 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 5

#2

I can't speak for Righto but I have always been a Democrat.

I can understand, however, why this article upsets you since you are one of the most egregious examples of a progressive that can do nothing other than post article after article that tears down any candidate other than Sanders or Warren.

YOU are part of the problem.

#8 | Posted by leftcoastlawyer at 2019-06-24 12:56 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

#7

I agree completely on Biden/Harris but I also think Warren/Buttigeig would also be hard to beat. What bears repeating is that we need to avoid the circular firing squad that people like Punchy continue to form.

#9 | Posted by leftcoastlawyer at 2019-06-24 12:58 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

Wow I read this and could not believe my eyes. It said that Trump won because Sanders supporters were pissed at Hillary and the DNC and stayed home instead of voting for her. I thought it was the Russians?!?!?

#4 | POSTED BY FISHPAW AT 2019-06-24 12:51 PM | REPLY

1). Hillary was immoral. 33,000 emails.
Ask any government employee with a security clearance how bad that was.

2). Hillary sucked. No moral core and she changed her campaign slogan 86 times!

3). Hillary and the DNC and their superdelegates stole the election from the Commie. I know several local Dems who are still pissed about that.

#10 | Posted by drivelikejehu at 2019-06-24 01:15 PM | Reply

"The 2020 Democratic primary is a showcase of these intersectional Balkan wars -- race, sex, class, and comparative claims on victimhood that cannot be reconciled by comparative set-asides, quotas, and reparations, much less by a self-appointed, supposed all-knowing, all-powerful old white guy like Biden, playing the role of Alexander among the squabbling city-states and Macedonian tribes, or Napoleon both channeling and transcending the bloody factionalism of the French Revolution, or Tito suppressing tribalism by an all-encompassing authoritarian leftist dogma.

Intersectionality ends not by compromise, but by implosion through its own utter nihilism that sees humans as collective cardboard cutouts rather unique individuals who transcend their superficial appearances."

amgreatness.com

#11 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-06-24 01:17 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Wow I read this and could not believe my eyes. It said that Trump won because Sanders supporters were pissed at Hillary and the DNC and stayed home instead of voting for her. I thought it was the Russians?!?!?

#4 | POSTED BY FISHPAW

"Nobody knew elections were this complicated."

--Ignorant Righties

#12 | Posted by gtbritishskull at 2019-06-24 01:24 PM | Reply

#11 | POSTED BY NULLIFIDIAN ... "its own utter nihilism that sees humans as collective cardboard cutouts rather unique individuals who transcend their superficial appearances."

Sounds good...but it's pretty much disproven by the advertising business and insurance actuarial tables

#13 | Posted by 1947steamer at 2019-06-24 01:31 PM | Reply

Wow I read this and could not believe my eyes. It said that Trump won because Sanders supporters were pissed at Hillary and the DNC and stayed home instead of voting for her. I thought it was the Russians?!?!?

#4 | Posted by fishpaw

It doesn't have to be one or the other. In a close election there are many factors that can be accurately described as what flipped the election.

People refused to vote for hillary AND russians helped trump. Can your brain hold both those thoughts at the same time?

#14 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-06-24 02:09 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

2). Hillary sucked. No moral core and she changed her campaign slogan 86 times!

#10 | Posted by drivelikejehu

Yeah trump supporters always demand a strict moral core for their candidates.

#15 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-06-24 02:10 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

BIDEN TO A ROOM FULL OF RICH WALL STREET DONORS:

"We can disagree in the margins but the truth of the matter is it's all within our wheelhouse and nobody has to be punished. No one's standard of living will change, nothing would fundamentally change."

Biden went on to say that the rich should not be blamed for income inequality, pleading to the donors, "I need you very badly."

"I hope if I win this nomination, I won't let you down. I promise you," he added."

ANYBODY BUT BIDEN. He's hillary without the ovaries. We already tried this approach.

#16 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-06-24 02:12 PM | Reply

#9

Don't put a lot of money on Warren/Buttigeig just yet, while both Fauxcohauntus and Mayor Pete have performed well in Town Halls the debate stage will be a completely different animal. I think both Creepy Joe and WoKamala will shine during the debates along with Sanders, but regardless it is going to be fun to watch the firing squad form.

#17 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-06-24 02:18 PM | Reply

The men in the primary are all being emotional and bitchy. The women are all being positive and professional. Any "sniping" is going to come from the men, but will somehow be attributed to the women. This is how it works in MAGA America.

#18 | Posted by chuffy at 2019-06-24 02:23 PM | Reply

it is going to be fun to watch the firing squad form.

#17 | Posted by Rightocenter

As much fun as it was to watch republicans give up all their lifelong principles to join the cult of a con man?

#19 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-06-24 02:35 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#18

Agreed that the men are being far bitchier than the women, but so far Creepy Joe and Mayor Pete are staying out of the fray. That could change, especially during the debates, depending on how hard they are attacked.

I think that Warren will try to stay out of the scrum on night one, she really has no significant female competition that night but I guarantee that Bobby and Booker are going to be throwing mud at her.

Since the long knives are already out for Biden, I think on night two he will try to stay composed, but it will be interesting to see how Kamala, Mayor Pete and Bernie respond to him if he ignores them.

#20 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-06-24 02:36 PM | Reply

#19

Much more fun.

#21 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-06-24 02:36 PM | Reply

Can't be haunted if you have no soul.

Biden/Harris 2020

#22 | Posted by Ben_Berkkake at 2019-06-24 02:49 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Honest policy debate is healthy and nothing to be afraid of. Name calling, the orange sloth's specialty, is not.

#23 | Posted by bayviking at 2019-06-24 02:51 PM | Reply

People refused to vote for hillary AND russians helped trump. Can your brain hold both those thoughts at the same time?

#14 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY AT 2019-06-24 02:09 PM | FLAG:

Wow, it took you having to read another leftwing hack admitting that Hillary screwed Bernie and his supporters which could have cost her the election to accept it. Congrats, baby steps.

#24 | Posted by fishpaw at 2019-06-24 02:56 PM | Reply

As much fun as it was to watch republicans give up all their lifelong principles to join the cult of a con man?

#19 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY AT 2019-06-24 02:35 PM | FLAG:

I'm sure you would say Republicans gave up their lifelong principles when they voted for Lincoln.

#25 | Posted by fishpaw at 2019-06-24 02:59 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

We need to come together, not tear each other apart.

That's not really how primaries work in either major party, so it's unrealistic to ask for it.

Progressives are right to point out Biden's flaws. What needs to be made clear is there is not a single Dem candidate who even approaches the level of depravity as the eventual opponent. Republicans have no shame and will pretend that checking a box on a form, or plagiarizing a speech, or owning a vacation home when you're a DemSoc, are on an equal moral plane with being an admitted rapist. The false equivalence needs to be combated.

#26 | Posted by JOE at 2019-06-24 03:08 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I'm sure you would say Republicans gave up their lifelong principles when they voted for Lincoln.

#25 | Posted by fishpaw

Today's republicans have nothing to do with republicans who supported lincoln. Just like they have nothing to do with republicans from before the time of the southern strategy and roger ailes.

#27 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-06-24 03:12 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

People refused to vote for hillary AND russians helped trump. Can your brain hold both those thoughts at the same time?

#14 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY AT 2019-06-24 02:09 PM | FLAG:

Wow, it took you having to read another leftwing hack admitting that Hillary screwed Bernie and his supporters which could have cost her the election to accept it. Congrats, baby steps.

#24 | Posted by fishpaw a

Well your reading comprehension allowed you to understand HALF my post. So you get a 50%. Still a solid F.

#28 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-06-24 03:13 PM | Reply

Progressives are right to point out Biden's flaws.

I agree, but what we don't need to do is give Cheetolini ammo for the GE, which is all the sniping is going to do. Honest discussion of differences is not the same as snickering about his son dating his other son's widow.

What needs to be made clear is there is not a single Dem candidate who even approaches the level of depravity as the eventual opponent.

And I think that all the candidates need to focus on the Cheeto Stain and on how to beat him as opposed to shredding each other.

Republicans have no shame and will pretend that checking a box on a form, or plagiarizing a speech, or owning a vacation home when you're a DemSoc, are on an equal moral plane with being an admitted rapist. The false equivalence needs to be combated.

Here we disagree, because I think that calling Trump an "admitted rapist", while valid, just becomes white noise after 4 years of screaming it. People know what a -------- Trump is, we need to focus on concrete policies and our similarities rather than breathless hyperbole about Trump.

At this point, who cares about registered Republicans and their lack of moral compass, we need to focus on ourselves and our priorities.

#29 | Posted by leftcoastlawyer at 2019-06-24 03:38 PM | Reply

"We need to come together, not tear each other apart."

We have the wrong form of government then. Winner take all is all about tearing each other apart.

#30 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-06-24 03:41 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Winner take all is all about tearing each other apart.

At the GOP primary level, that is what Trump did and won. I would like to think we are different, but with attitudes like yours, maybe we aren't.

#31 | Posted by leftcoastlawyer at 2019-06-24 03:47 PM | Reply

I agree, but what we don't need to do is give Cheetolini ammo for the GE, which is all the sniping is going to do. Honest discussion of differences is not the same as snickering about his son dating his other son's widow.

#29 | Posted by leftcoastlawyer

So do you consider pointing out that biden has proudly declared himself to be a puppet of status quo elites to be "sniping" or an honest discussion of differences?

This fact is the fundamental element not just in this election, but the reason dems lost the last election.

#32 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-06-24 03:58 PM | Reply

I'm sure you would say Republicans gave up their lifelong principles when they voted for Lincoln.

#25 | Posted by fishpaw

I think that you'd prefer Trump.

Please deny it.

#33 | Posted by Zed at 2019-06-24 04:01 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

-This fact is the fundamental element not just in this election, but the reason dems lost the last election.

I don't think Biden will never match the number of haters Hillary managed to generate.

Nor will anybody else in the democratic party field.

#34 | Posted by eberly at 2019-06-24 04:11 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

So do you consider pointing out that biden has proudly declared himself to be a puppet of status quo elites to be "sniping" or an honest discussion of differences?
This fact is the fundamental element not just in this election, but the reason dems lost the last election.

#32 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY

Dems lost the last election for a multitude of reasons. Joe Biden isn't Hillary Clinton.

#35 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-06-24 04:11 PM | Reply

-At this point, who cares about registered Republicans and their lack of moral compass,

the extreme left wing base who are frothing at the mouth over it.

#36 | Posted by eberly at 2019-06-24 04:12 PM | Reply

what we don't need to do is give Cheetolini ammo for the GE

You don't think he'll locate that ammo on his own? Just about the only thing he's good at is coming up with a theme and repeating it over and over and over. He will do that regardless of what any Dem says.

I think that calling Trump an "admitted rapist", while valid, just becomes white noise after 4 years of screaming it

Trump, with a straight face. is going to make moral judgments about whoever the Dem candidate is. I and everyone else will continue reminding the public that he is 10x the -------.

#37 | Posted by JOE at 2019-06-24 04:17 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Joe Biden isn't Hillary Clinton.

He's closer to being Hillary Clinton than anyone else in the race.

#38 | Posted by JOE at 2019-06-24 04:17 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I don't think Biden will never match the number of haters Hillary managed to generate.

Nor will anybody else in the democratic party field.

#34 | Posted by eberly

Hillary hate was amplified and encouraged by fox news for 20 years. As soon as fox gives biden the hillary treatment, he'll have more haters too. Their viewers will hate whoever they're told.

#39 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-06-24 04:24 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

-At this point, who cares about registered Republicans and their lack of moral compass,

the extreme left wing base who are frothing at the mouth over it.

#36 | Posted by eberly

But it doesn't bother you a lick.

You think it's an insult to say someone gets upset about republicans being ethically depraved?

It's an insult to you that you're not more upset about it.

#40 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-06-24 04:25 PM | Reply

Their viewers will hate whoever they're told.
#39 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY

Quit being so shallow. There are plenty reasons to hate him.

All his own doing too.

#41 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-06-24 04:26 PM | Reply

-As soon as fox gives biden the hillary treatment, he'll have more haters too.

I'm sure Fox will try as hard as possible to see that hate.

But that doesn't mean it will work. Hillary hate was easy to sell....may not be so easy with Biden.

-But it doesn't bother you a lick.

So, there are 2 possibilities...1. frothing at the mouth and 2. doesn't bother a bit

Is that about right?

If you're insulted at my comment (that's obvious) then that's your fault. If you're frothing at the mouth, then just be happy about it. Don't take it as an insult.

Notice, I didn't say all democrats or the left..just the extreme base. Most of us who didn't vote for Trump have nothing to apologize for because our level of outrage doesn't meet with your approval.

I don't roll that way.....and if that bothers you.....well, tough.

#42 | Posted by eberly at 2019-06-24 04:37 PM | Reply

sorry...Fox will try to "sell" that hate..

#43 | Posted by eberly at 2019-06-24 04:47 PM | Reply

Today's republicans have nothing to do with republicans who supported lincoln. Just like they have nothing to do with republicans from before the time of the southern strategy and roger ailes.

#27 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY AT 2019-06-24 03:12 PM | FLAG: | NEWSWORTHY 1

And today's democrats have nothing to do with JFK dems. They have far more to do with Jim Crow

#44 | Posted by fishpaw at 2019-06-24 04:50 PM | Reply

--And today's democrats have nothing to do with JFK dems. They have far more to do with Jim Crow

An anti-communist like JFK couldn't get nominated in today's leftist socialist-democrat party.

#45 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-06-24 04:54 PM | Reply

And cryptonazis like Trump would never have been nominated by either party until Republicans did it in 2016.

Congratulations on making history, Dulli!

#46 | Posted by JOE at 2019-06-24 05:12 PM | Reply

The cheaper the partisan, the gaudier the patter

"On Saturday, former Vice President Joe Biden compared President Donald Trump's election in 2016 to the assassinations of Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr. and Robert F. Kennedy in 1968. Biden said that Trump's victory was shocking enough to "reawaken" liberals in politics, just like those horrific deaths.

"I think what's happening now is, I think that Donald Trump may have reawakened sensibilities in this country to say ‘Whoa, maybe we can do this now, just like our generation was awakened when Dr. King and Bobby Kennedy were assassinated,'" Biden told Rev. Al Sharpton on MSNBC Saturday."

"They're going to put y'all back in chains!"
--Moldy Joe

#47 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-06-24 05:37 PM | Reply

"...just like our generation was awakened when Dr. King and Bobby Kennedy were assassinated"

Wow. what a tone-deaf cracker. Wait'll he says he's going to "emancipate the coloreds" when elected.

#48 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-06-24 05:46 PM | Reply

And today's democrats have nothing to do with JFK dems. They have far more to do with Jim Crow

#44 | Posted by fishpaw

You have to go back decades to find democrats trying to keep minorities from voting. Republicans are doing it TODAY. And they brag about it.

#49 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-06-24 05:48 PM | Reply

An anti-communist like JFK couldn't get nominated in today's leftist socialist-democrat party.

#45 | Posted by nullifidian

Yeah fox news says modern democrats are extremists so it must be true. Meanwhile they fully support a climate destroying naiz embracing criminal con man because he gives rich people tax cuts.

#50 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-06-24 05:50 PM | Reply

So, there are 2 possibilities...1. frothing at the mouth and 2. doesn't bother a bit
#42 | Posted by eberly

Sorry I'm trying to recall a post or position where you seemed troubled by trump and his cult beyond "well i didn't vote for him so it's not my fault"

You're more inclined to posts insults about the people who are concerned with this manchild in the white house than you are to post your own concern about having a manchild in the white house.

"What are all these firemen running around for? Why are their sirens so loud? God they're such whining extremists. They should just chill and be cool like me. What's the hurry?"

#51 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-06-24 05:53 PM | Reply

--fox news

*drink*

#52 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-06-24 05:54 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

--fox news

*drink*

#52 | Posted by nullifidian

...is what you do when fox pisses into your mouth.

#53 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-06-24 06:48 PM | Reply

At the GOP primary level, that is what Trump did and won. I would like to think we are different, but with attitudes like yours, maybe we aren't.
#31 | POSTED BY LEFTCOASTLAWYER

Don't try to make this personal.
The parties are different, but the rules are the same.

#54 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-06-24 07:28 PM | Reply

The parties are different, but the rules are the same.

#54 | Posted by snoofy

Not quite. The democrats give more power to unelected corporate puppets called "superdelegates". Wouldnt want the party follow the will of the average american or anything. We need to make sure plutocrats can override them.

#55 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-06-24 07:40 PM | Reply

"Not quite. The democrats give more power to unelected corporate puppets called "superdelegates"

So do the Republicans.
The rules which allow the parties to do that... are the same.

#56 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-06-24 08:09 PM | Reply

SPEAK

"The democrats give more power to unelected corporate puppets called "superdelegates"

That may not be the case this time around. This from the New York Times last July:

"Democratic Party officials took a major step Wednesday toward sharply reducing the role and influence of powerful political insiders in the presidential nominating process, a change sought by Senator Bernie Sanders and many other liberals after the 2016 campaign."

Notice they didn't say none ~ just sharply reduce.

I recall that Sanders was late out of the starting gate in that race and complained that "Hillary already has all the good ones."

#57 | Posted by Twinpac at 2019-06-24 08:15 PM | Reply

"The technical answer is that yes, the Republican Party does have superdelegates. However, they function differently for the GOP than Democrats, and in 2016, Republican superdelegates will have way, way less power and autonomy than the superdelegates on the Democratic side."

In the Democratic Party, superdelegates can vote for whichever candidate they wish regardless of how the state that they come from votes, and in total, superdelegates comprise about 15 percent of the total delegates that determine the nomination.

The GOP, however, has decided to establish fewer superdelegates than the Democrats. In the Republican Party, the only people who get superdelegate status are the three members of each state's national party. This means that in the GOP, superdelegates are only about 7 percent of the total number of delegates.

The more important distinction, though, is that Republican superdelegates do not have the freedom to vote for whichever candidate they please. The Republican National Committee ruled in 2015 that their superdelegates must vote for the candidate that their state voted for, and that's the biggest difference between Republican and Democratic superdelegates.

it's simply not possible for Republican superdelegates to override the wishes of Republican voters. Thanks to the rules the national GOP has established, Republican "superdelegates" aren't very "super" at all.
www.bustle.com

Not THE SAME at all.

#58 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-06-24 08:16 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#56

Actually, no, they aren't the same. So called "automatic delegates" in the GOP (the state chairman and two RNC committee members from each State) are required to vote for the candidate who won their State's primary.

Pursuant to the recently revised DNC rules, Super Delegates still make up about 15% of the delegates at the convention, but are now not allowed to cast votes on the first ballot, and will only be allowed to vote on contested conventions if no candidate gets elected on the first ballot-thereby ensuring that the candidate favored by the DNC machine gets selected eventually.

#59 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-06-24 08:21 PM | Reply

RIGHT/CENTER

That's the way I remember it, too.

#60 | Posted by Twinpac at 2019-06-24 08:56 PM | Reply

#60

The DNC is trying to give the sheep the illusion of choice but if it is close, they will put in who they want.

That being said, obviously, if the Democrats overwhelmingly vote to nominate someone outside of the mainstream the DNC will have to live with it, but the odds of that are low enough that the DNC was comfortable with this "window dressing" to keep the mouthbreathers happy.

#61 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-06-24 09:09 PM | Reply

"The DNC is trying to give the sheep the illusion of choice"

Hysterics noted.

If the primary choices were an illusion, Obama would never have become the nominee, and superdelegates would never have been introduced in the first place, to keep the inmates from taking over the asylum by "tearing each other apart" as colorfully described in #31.

#62 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-06-24 10:05 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

-You're more inclined to posts insults

This from you whom I hadn't addressed and I hadn't insulted anybody.

And let's see who is inclined to post insults.

www.drudge.com

#63 | Posted by eberly at 2019-06-24 10:37 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

2). Hillary sucked. No moral core and she changed her campaign slogan 86 times!

#10 | Posted by drivelikejehu

Yeah trump supporters always demand a strict moral core for their candidates.

#15 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY AT 2019-06-24 02:10 PM | FLAG:

I didn't promote Trump.
I explained how that sh t show lost.

I campaign against her. I didn't campaign FOR Trump.

#64 | Posted by drivelikejehu at 2019-06-24 11:48 PM | Reply

If the primary choices were an illusion, Obama would never have become the nominee

Which is precisely why I said "obviously, if the Democrats overwhelmingly vote to nominate someone outside of the mainstream the DNC will have to live with it". In that instance, the DNC embraced Obama very quickly.

#65 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-06-24 11:56 PM | Reply

I campaign against her. I didn't campaign FOR Trump.

#64 | Posted by drivelikejehu

Yeah just like you didn't molest the kids, you just help the molester escape the cops because you hate cops.

#66 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-06-25 01:16 PM | Reply

This whole line "we can't have a bruising primary else we'll give the opponent ammo" is total BS. It's not true in sports - think all those years Peyton Manning rested after week 13 and it effectively got him one title despite being greatest regular season QB ever.

I'd also argue same is true in political sphere - recent history Trump over Clinton, Obama over Clinton and eventually McCain. To a small extent Bush over Gore.

The "clear out" party doesn't get battle ready and can't develop effective counters to vicious and often times disingenuous attacks. Primaries should be a battle of ideas and prep "for the real thing" imo. Anything less should (and many times will) end in 😭.

#67 | Posted by AfterMaff at 2019-06-26 09:33 AM | Reply

Comments are closed for this entry.

Home | Breaking News | Comments | User Blogs | Stats | Back Page | RSS Feed | RSS Spec | DMCA Compliance | Privacy | Copyright 2019 World Readable

Drudge Retort