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Saturday, June 22, 2019

The prediction is a pretty damn good one. The world is now about 1 degree Celsius (1.8 degrees Fahrenheit) warmer than it was and carbon dioxide levels are at 415 ppm. The estimate was part of Exxon's "high case" scenario, which assumed fossil fuel use would quicken and that the world would be able to tap new reserves in the late 2000s from at the time unreachable shale gas. The memo also warned that the extra carbon dioxide would enhance the greenhouse effect and that an "increase in absorbed energy via this route would warm the earth's surface causing changes in climate affecting atmospheric and ocean temperatures, rainfall patterns, soil moisture, and over centuries potentially melting the polar ice caps."


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Humanity's FIRST DAY EVER with 415 ppm CO2 in air recorded at Mauna Loa on May 3, 2019.


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Melting polar ice caps ✔

Global temperature rise of 1.8 degrees pretty close to what they predicted ✔

#1 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2019-06-22 01:46 PM | Reply

All this is great, but what do we replace oil, gas, and coal with?

If we shut down production tomorrow, we'll be in the dark in 2 weeks.

Meanwhile, we're years away from any realistic energy source that produces the amount of power we consume.

#2 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-06-22 02:27 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1


Or you know, instead of shutting it all off at once, we could try to make things more efficient and polute less while development on that stuff continues. Just a thought.

Of course it won't matter because (insert country of choice) isn't doing it so it doesn't matter right?

#3 | Posted by Lohocla at 2019-06-22 02:44 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

- we could try to make things more efficient and polute less
Exxon coddler. Clean coal truther.

- while development on that stuff continues. Just a thought.
I'm all for it. Who's on the bleeding edge? that isn't shifting the pollution R&D to China and third-world countries?

- it won't matter because
It might make America a little cleaner and greener, but it won't matter for the rest of the planet, ice caps, rivers, streams or oceans.
As long as we're outsourcing our pollution, used plastics, and toxic waste to third world countries, we're not really addressing climate change at all.

#4 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-06-22 03:09 PM | Reply

#2 | Posted by SheepleSchism

If American administrations support renewable energy production, eventually fossil fuel won't be necessary for power generation.

Renewable energy now generates more electricity in the United States than coal. Solar, wind, hydropower, biomass, and geothermal totaled 21.56 percent of U.S. generating capacity as of April, according to a report from the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission (FERC)


#5 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2019-06-22 03:19 PM | Reply

Then there's all the fusion power we need shining in the sky every day ...

It's a matter of desire, not the ability to produce what we need without fossil fuels.

#6 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2019-06-22 03:26 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1


About what expected as a response.

#7 | Posted by Lohocla at 2019-06-22 04:50 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"In it, the company recognized, despite the many lingering unknowns, that heading off global warming "would require major reductions in fossil fuel combustion."
Unless that happened, "there are some potentially catastrophic events that must be considered," the primer said, citing independent experts. "Once the effects are measurable, they might not be reversible."

The ivory tower elites at the liberal University of Exxon have spoken, and they said "We need more grant money!"
It will be fun to see if the stock market is able to hang a price tag on all this.
Perhaps less fun if you are holding XOM.

#8 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-06-22 04:55 PM | Reply

#4 | Posted by SheepleSchism

China is leading the world in a move away from fossil fuels and into renewable energy. A day spent in Beijing evidences the problem that's literally right in their faces.

Why shouldn't America make a massive effort to wean ourselves off the very product that will destroy the planet we all live on?

Here's what your new anti-Bernie buddy is doing about it:

Trump administration rolls back plans to raise fuel economy standards for autos

- The Trump administration proposes rolling back ambitious targets for higher fuel economy and lower greenhouse gas emissions from cars and trucks.

- The administration confirms it will seek to strip California of its special authority to set its own fuel economy levels for autos.

- Cars and light-duty trucks will only have to average about 37 mpg by 2026, rather than targets near 50 mpg envisioned by the Obama administration. (Which is doable if only the desire were there by this administration to make it happen).


#9 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2019-06-22 05:05 PM | Reply

We have already passed the point of no return. The problem is, no one wants to make the sacrifices that must be made.
That means no cars or trucks or airplanes. No more factories. No more industrial scale food production. No more extraction of minerals, the gold, aluminum, iron ore - whatever, unless you're going to do it with nothing more than the muscle of men and women. That means planting a few hundred million acres of forest per year, without burning any fossil fuels to do so.

The forests once trapped carbon dioxide, those days are over.
The oceans once trapped carbon dioxide, those days ended long ago.

The permafrost is thawing, that wasn't supposed to happen for another 75 years under the current predictive models. The permafrost holds trillions of tons of carbon dioxide and methane. The release of these gases will be exponential going forward, and in 100 years or so, all of these factors will raise the carbon dioxide levels at least 100 parts per million. Worst case, by more than 250 parts per million. This thaw cannot be reversed. Not by man.

You are witnessing the cascade in all its glory. The truth is, mankind has made the decision as to what sacrifices you will make. Hundreds and hundreds, and hundreds, of millions of people, and most of the flora and fauna on this planet are going to perish.

You have raped this planet. It will show you no mercy in return.

#10 | Posted by gitmboy at 2019-06-23 07:03 PM | Reply

All this is great, but what do we replace oil, gas, and coal with?


An administration that isn't anti-science and actually cares about America's future.

#11 | Posted by Derek_Wildstar at 2019-06-24 02:53 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Exxon scientists gave the same warning as climate scientists, but the amoral greed heads lied and claimed it wasn't true. The evil ones convinced a bunch of gullible fools to doubt science.

Now that the anti-science liars have been exposed they fall back to "Nothing can be done".

#12 | Posted by bored at 2019-06-24 10:05 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Meanwhile, we're years away from any realistic energy source that produces the amount of power we consume."

"United States President Jimmy Carter's Moral Equivalent of War speech was a speech in which Carter addressed the United States on April 18, 1977. It is remembered as the speech where he compared the energy crisis with the "moral equivalent of war". Carter gave ten principles for the plan, but did not list specific actions. He said the goal was to reduce dependence on oil imports and "cut in half the portion of United States oil which is imported, from a potential level of 16 million barrels to six million barrels a day."


Then Reagan colluded with Iran to get them to keep the hostages until after the election in 1980 and after being inaugurated proceeded to undo everything good Carter tried to do, ran us into deep debt using big fat tax cuts for the 1%, brought about the biggest recession since the Great Depression of 1929, committed treason again through Iran Contra, f****d up countries in S. America from where refugees are pouring out towards the U.S. but who is still fondly Remembered by stubborn, stupid Republican voters who are as treasonous as he was. The crimes committed against the U.S. and the world would be a list so long that people in other nations consider America to be the most dangerous and evil power on the planet. Trump has just exaccerbated it. Don't you folks ever learn anything?

#13 | Posted by danni at 2019-06-25 10:01 AM | Reply

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