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Sunday, June 16, 2019

About to break records for the longest expansion, the U.S. economy sure looks like an asset for a president gearing up to seek re-election.

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Yet, Trump's approval ratings are still low. Proof that he is a garbage president, that may be a traitor.

#1 | Posted by bored at 2019-06-16 02:01 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 3

"Then we need to find a way to destroy it" - Retort

#2 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-06-16 02:02 PM | Reply

The only way the incumbent will lose is if voters decide that they are tired of winning. Trump warned us about this aspect of his presidency during the 2016 primaries.

#3 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2019-06-16 02:13 PM | Reply | Funny: 2 | Newsworthy 1

I love how well our economy is doing.

But. Perhaps if our economy was as healthy as the claim is, we wouldn't have so many threads about the increasing number of homeless Americans.

#4 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-06-16 02:21 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 7


@#4 ... Perhaps if our economy was as healthy as the claim is, ...

The cited article goes in pretty good depth why the economy may not be as good as it outwardly appears.

For example, the Trump tax cut for the wealthy seems to have given a nice short-term boost to the economy, but there does not seem to be any long-term staying power to that boost.

It's a good article with a lot of data and charts, worth a read, imo.

#5 | Posted by LampLighter at 2019-06-16 03:05 PM | Reply

Yet, Trump's approval ratings are still low. Proof that he is a garbage president, that may be a traitor.

Or it may be a mainstream media controlled by liberals who refuse to report on the good of this administration.

#6 | Posted by boaz at 2019-06-16 03:17 PM | Reply | Funny: 5

it may be a mainstream media controlled by liberals who refuse to report on the good of this administration.

Who knew Boaz was so into conspiracy theories.

Well. Except for birtherism.

Boaz has never forgiven the democrats for electing a black president.

#7 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-06-16 03:24 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 2


@#6 ... it may be a mainstream media controlled by liberals who refuse to report on the good of this administration. ...

Are you saying that Fox News, the highest-rated cable news channel) is controlled by liberals and refuses to report on the good of the Trump administration?

#8 | Posted by LampLighter at 2019-06-16 03:42 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Fox News is the only fair and objective news source out there today. All the others are bought and paid for by liberals and it shows in their content.

#9 | Posted by boaz at 2019-06-16 04:09 PM | Reply | Funny: 5 | Newsworthy 1

we wouldn't have so many threads about the increasing number of homeless Americans.
#4 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK

Par for the course when a Republican is President.

What you won't find is why?

House prices? Too many poor unemployed?

Continued OpenBorder policies?

If Trump really wanted to put the screws to Democrats, thats where I would go ...

More and More homeless because of housing prices, and lack of low paying jobs ...

Whats the Democrats solution? More unskilled labor....

Are you saying that Fox News, the highest-rated cable news channel) is controlled by liberals and refuses to report on the good of the Trump administration?
#8 | POSTED BY LAMPLIGHTER

When you have to use an outlier you have lost the argument.

#10 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-06-16 04:13 PM | Reply

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@#10 ... When you have to use an outlier you have lost the argument. ...

Not really.

Mass media means the media with the higher number of viewers. Fox News has the most viewers of any cable news channel. You cannot dismiss that fact just because you do not like it.

Maybe you need a different definition of the news media that you don't like, one that is based more upon the real reason you don't like them. They don't regularly check Pres Trump for polyps.

btw, did you take the time to read the cited article?


#11 | Posted by LampLighter at 2019-06-16 04:27 PM | Reply

Fox News is the only fair and objective news source out there today. All the others are bought and paid for by liberals and it shows in their content.
#9 | POSTED BY BOAZ

Do you have any facts to back up your opinion?

Cause, any jackhole can have an opinion.

The problem becomes when jackholes confuse their opinions with facts.

#12 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-06-16 04:32 PM | Reply

Whats the Democrats Capitalism's solution? More unskilled labor....

Thanks Capitalism!

There's a reason why corporations moved factories to Mexico, China, India, etc... it's cheaper.

#13 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-06-16 04:35 PM | Reply

Fox News is the only fair and objective news source out there today. All the others are bought and paid for by liberals and it shows in their content.
#9 | POSTED BY BOAZ

You would have made a great Jim Hones soldier.

#14 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2019-06-16 04:47 PM | Reply

There's a reason why corporations moved factories to Mexico
#13 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK

That's right, lots of jobs. Affordable housing too.

A nice safe place to settle down.

#15 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-06-16 04:51 PM | Reply

Thank God for President Trump. Please keep doing that voodoo that you do, that keeps these poor slobs a crappin' in their pants.

#16 | Posted by Spork at 2019-06-16 05:10 PM | Reply

That's right, lots of jobs. Affordable housing too.

A nice safe place to settle down.

#15 | POSTED BY SHEEPLESCHISM

Who's side are you on?

I root for America.

Jobs went to Mexico because greedy corporations refused to no longer pay American workers middle-class wages.

#17 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-06-16 05:20 PM | Reply

All financed by the largest amount of debt in human history.

#18 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2019-06-16 05:26 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 6

#18 deserves an exclamation point.

#19 | Posted by moder8 at 2019-06-16 05:28 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

FTA:

Workers' paychecks have also been growing slowly by past standards, and the portion of the national income that goes to wage-earners -- known as the labor share -- hasn't recovered from the historic lows it reached after the financial crisis.

Trump likes to point out that the economy has accelerated on his watch. And economists do credit the president's policies -- lower taxes, plus an increase in government spending agreed with Congress -- for faster growth rates starting in 2018.


These facts alone should worry you.

Workers aren't getting their fair share and the economy is driving on increased government spending while simultaneously giving tax cuts to the richest amongst us, who's taxes fuel the spending the government is doing.

Trump alone is costing American taxpayers billions a month. But he's not accepting his $125k salary. And Republicans think he's generous.

#20 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-06-16 06:46 PM | Reply

Yea, who cares about rule of law, women's rights, the environment, class, or accountability as long as someone is making money? It's the only thing in life.

#21 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2019-06-16 07:36 PM | Reply

But. Perhaps if our economy was as healthy as the claim is, we wouldn't have so many threads about the increasing number of homeless Americans.
#4 | Posted by ClownShack a

Over a million more job openings than people looking for work. Get real clo.

#22 | Posted by Sniper at 2019-06-17 09:46 AM | Reply

It's a good article with a lot of data and charts, worth a read, imo.
#5 | Posted by LampLighter

Liars can make figures saw what they want. Tell us what is NOT good.

#23 | Posted by Sniper at 2019-06-17 09:48 AM | Reply

Fox News is the only fair and objective news source out there today. All the others are bought and paid for by liberals and it shows in their content.
#9 | Posted by boaz

Fox and OANN are the only 2 news stations available. However Fox does have some spin masters too.

#24 | Posted by Sniper at 2019-06-17 09:50 AM | Reply

Tell us what is NOT good.

The deficit. Or more specifically the interest paid on the debt it generates.

#25 | Posted by REDIAL at 2019-06-17 10:15 AM | Reply

Sniper, that is why will start to see job growth stagnate. there is no one left to hire that can pass a drug screen

#26 | Posted by Maverick at 2019-06-17 10:19 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The deficit. Or more specifically the interest paid on the debt it generates.
#25 | Posted by REDIAL

And who doubled it? Was there ever a budget under the o'bummer admin? 8 years of CR.

#27 | Posted by Sniper at 2019-06-17 10:59 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

A whattabout was fully expected.

#28 | Posted by REDIAL at 2019-06-17 11:00 AM | Reply

In Candada, it's 'whattaboot'.

#29 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-06-17 11:12 AM | Reply

--A whattabout was fully expected.

That must be both the most lame, and most popular argument on the Retort. No context, no contrast and compare with a predecessor is legitimate for the dummies on the Left. Unless, of course, it supports The Narrative, in which case whataboutism is virtuous.

#30 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-06-17 11:14 AM | Reply

The measuring methodology hasn't really changed since Clinton revised the CPI index to reduce SS payments, so the unemployment number provides a consistent comparison between the last three administrations. But it leaves many people who have left the full time with benefits work force out of the picture. People who work one or two part time jobs are not unemployed, even though they are not where they would like to be. Millions of others are collecting social security disability payments in lieu of a real job because its the best they can do. Counting these people as unemployed paints a completely different picture of the economy. ~22% unemployment and 6% inflation rate.

www.shadowstats.com

#31 | Posted by bayviking at 2019-06-17 11:24 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The Narrative

*drink*

#32 | Posted by REDIAL at 2019-06-17 11:42 AM | Reply

The Obama defense regarding the economy is perfect for this and will most likely be used by all President's going forward. Just take credit for everything good, blame everything bad on your predecessor, and wa-la...your constituents will love you, your hates will hate you, and everyone will still vote on party lines because nothing changes. But, always remember, no matter how good your financial situation is because of all the hard work you put in...you didn't build your wealth, someone else did....

#33 | Posted by humtake at 2019-06-17 12:10 PM | Reply

But underemployment is at a high and laborforce participation rate is at the lowest its been since women were added to the labor force.

I guess the success of the trumpconomy is just fake news.

#34 | Posted by IndianaJones at 2019-06-17 02:07 PM | Reply

Or it may be a mainstream media controlled by liberals who refuse to report on the good of this administration.

#6 | Posted by boaz

Here ya go, BOZO:

Fox News poll 6-16-2019 (today):

Approve 45%
Disapprove 53%

If the 2020 election were held today would you vote for:

Biden 49%
Trump 39

And that 35% Trump base? (which includes YOU, BOZO)

Do you think a politician can have low moral and ethical standards and still be a good leader?
Yes 35%
No_ 60%
www.foxnews.com

#35 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2019-06-17 02:30 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 2

People aren't stupid.

Great news means ---- if you ain't feeling it.

www.pewresearch.org

"But despite the strong labor market, wage growth has lagged economists' expectations. In fact, despite some ups and downs over the past several decades, today's real average wage (that is, the wage after accounting for inflation) has about the same purchasing power it did 40 years ago. And what wage gains there have been have mostly flowed to the highest-paid tier of workers.

After adjusting for inflation, however, today's average hourly wage has just about the same purchasing power it did in 1978, following a long slide in the 1980s and early 1990s and bumpy, inconsistent growth since then. In fact, in real terms average hourly earnings peaked more than 45 years ago: The $4.03-an-hour rate recorded in January 1973 had the same purchasing power that $23.68 would today.

Meanwhile, wage gains have gone largely to the highest earners. Since 2000, usual weekly wages have risen 3% (in real terms) among workers in the lowest tenth of the earnings distribution and 4.3% among the lowest quarter. But among people in the top tenth of the distribution, real wages have risen a cumulative 15.7%, to $2,112 a week – nearly five times the usual weekly earnings of the bottom tenth ($426)."

#36 | Posted by Nixon at 2019-06-17 02:52 PM | Reply

But underemployment is at a high and laborforce participation rate is at the lowest its been since women were added to the labor force.
I guess the success of the trumpconomy is just fake news.

#34 | POSTED BY INDIANAJONES AT 2019-06-17 02:07 PM | FLAG:

Remember when righties used to care about the participation rate from 2009-2016?

I just had a wing dinger trying to tell me that the participation rate is soaring now that Humpty is in office.

#37 | Posted by Nixon at 2019-06-17 02:54 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

God. you guys play the same game every time.

If Hillary was in office with the same numbers,

You'd all be acting like America won the lottery.

But she wouldn't have these numbers, so it must be jealousy.

#38 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-06-17 03:05 PM | Reply

-People aren't stupid.

Yes, they most certainly are. This thread subject is a great example of that. People underemployed and seen their wages remain flat??? how many of them voted for Trump?

Yes...People are THAT stupid

#39 | Posted by eberly at 2019-06-17 03:12 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Fox News is the only fair and objective news source out there today.

Okay, i laughed.

#40 | Posted by JOE at 2019-06-17 03:14 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

The deficit. Or more specifically the interest paid on the debt it generates.
#25 | Posted by REDIAL
And who doubled it? Was there ever a budget under the o'bummer admin? 8 years of CR.

#27 | POSTED BY SNIPER

Obama cut the deficit in half.
Trump doubled it.

Game over.

#41 | Posted by Sycophant at 2019-06-17 04:31 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

And who doubled it?
#27 | POSTED BY SNIPER

To answer this question specifically, Bush doubled the national debt by (1) massive tax cuts without spending cuts, (2) driving us into a recession, and (3) two wars that led no where. Obama just had to pay the tab.

#42 | Posted by Sycophant at 2019-06-17 04:33 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

I wish I could give #9 three "funny" flags!

Anyway, only a seriously delusional partisan would be giving Trump most of the credit for this economy.

#43 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2019-06-17 05:22 PM | Reply

Just last Friday at the dentist waiting room I was talking to an individual who claimed that this is obama's economy. All I asked him to cite just three of the policies/rules/regulations implemented by his administration which improved the economy. Could not name one.

#44 | Posted by MSgt at 2019-06-17 05:48 PM | Reply

#44 You shouldn't have asked him while he was under anesthesia, you moron.

#45 | Posted by IndianaJones at 2019-06-17 05:57 PM | Reply

#35 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY

Thanks for the FF, NULLIFIDIAN.

We already knew you don't have morals or ethics, as quick as you were to abandon them when Trump was elected.

#46 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2019-06-17 07:02 PM | Reply

Could not name one.

#44 | Posted by MSgt

Yet.. here we are in a booming economy. For the wealthy anyway. And notice the world did not end when they thought it was going to end in 2009.

And it might even have enough momentum to overcome the Republcian Tax Scam of 2018!

Thanks Obama!

#47 | Posted by donnerboy at 2019-06-17 07:15 PM | Reply

The economy must be doing well. Congress wants a raise.

#48 | Posted by Petrous at 2019-06-17 09:48 PM | Reply

"Or it may be a mainstream media controlled by liberals who refuse to report on the good of this administration.
#6 | POSTED BY BOAZ AT 2019-06-16 03:17 PM"

President Trump's problem is not that the media doesn't report what he does.

His problem is that the media DOES report on what he does.

Doesn't take much analysis to figure out why it is that the less President Trump foists himself upon the world, the higher his approval ratings go.
He would do well to go into cryogenic stasis until November 2020.

#49 | Posted by TrueBlue at 2019-06-18 01:53 AM | Reply

"The economy must be doing well. Congress wants a raise.
#48 | POSTED BY PETROUS AT 2019-06-17 09:48 PM"

Coincidence is not causation.
It's much more likely an election is coming up and Congress wants more $$$ to campaign.

#50 | Posted by TrueBlue at 2019-06-18 01:55 AM | Reply

Doing what we stockholders hired a CEO to do.

#51 | Posted by Greatamerican at 2019-06-18 02:40 AM | Reply

The economy must be doing well. Congress wants a raise.

#48 | POSTED BY PETROUS AT 2019-06-17 09:48 PM | REPLY | FLAG

Congress gets automatic raises every year unless they vote to not take them.

"Under the terms of Public Law 101-194, the Government Ethics Reform Act of 1989, lawmakers receive an annual adjustment in pay [a cost of living adjustment or COLA] equal to the change in the government's Employment Cost Index for the fourth quarter of the prior calendar year versus the year before that (this constitutes a one-year time lag between when the pay raise is measured and when it actually takes effect). An automatic provision is made for this pay hike each year, and is self-implementing without any specific vote by Congress (i.e., passage of the overall Treasury appropriations bill enables the raise to occur). However, Members of Congress can, by majority vote, block the pay increase from taking place. This occurred for salary hikes slated for 1994-1997 and for 1999."

www.ntu.org

#52 | Posted by Nixon at 2019-06-18 09:02 AM | Reply

Was there ever a budget under the o'bummer admin? 8 years of CR.
#27 | POSTED BY SNIPER

Do you know who passes the budget?

#53 | Posted by Nixon at 2019-06-18 09:08 AM | Reply

Doing what we stockholders hired a CEO to do.
#51 | POSTED BY

Break the law?
So it doesn't matter how a company makes money? As long as it shows a profit?

#54 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2019-06-18 09:25 AM | Reply

People aren't stupid.
Great news means ---- if you ain't feeling it.
www.pewresearch.org
"But despite the strong labor market, wage growth has lagged economists' expectations. In fact, despite some ups and downs over the past several decades, today's real average wage (that is, the wage after accounting for inflation) has about the same purchasing power it did 40 years ago. And what wage gains there have been have mostly flowed to the highest-paid tier of workers.
After adjusting for inflation, however, today's average hourly wage has just about the same purchasing power it did in 1978, following a long slide in the 1980s and early 1990s and bumpy, inconsistent growth since then. In fact, in real terms average hourly earnings peaked more than 45 years ago: The $4.03-an-hour rate recorded in January 1973 had the same purchasing power that $23.68 would today.
Meanwhile, wage gains have gone largely to the highest earners. Since 2000, usual weekly wages have risen 3% (in real terms) among workers in the lowest tenth of the earnings distribution and 4.3% among the lowest quarter. But among people in the top tenth of the distribution, real wages have risen a cumulative 15.7%, to $2,112 a week – nearly five times the usual weekly earnings of the bottom tenth ($426)."
#36 | POSTED BY NIXON AT 2019-06-17 02:52 PM | FLAG:

Hey, send this to AOC and the other Dems in congress who want a raise because the economy is humming right now.

#55 | Posted by fishpaw at 2019-06-18 12:13 PM | Reply

I wish I could give #9 three "funny" flags!
Anyway, only a seriously delusional partisan would be giving Trump most of the credit for this economy.

#43 | POSTED BY WHATSLEFT AT 2019-06-17 05:22 PM | REPLY

So deregulation and consumer confidence has nothing to do with this economy growth? And second, credit for this economy? Liberals say this economy is crap so what youre saying is either this economy is crap and it's Obama's fault or this economy is good. Which is it?

#56 | Posted by fishpaw at 2019-06-18 02:16 PM | Reply

Doing what we stockholders hired a CEO to do.

#51 | Posted by Greatamerican

Whats that? Ripping off the poor, the sick and the disadvantaged and making more homeless people?

Good going Vern.

#57 | Posted by donnerboy at 2019-06-18 05:26 PM | Reply

Liberals say this economy is crap so what youre saying is either this economy is crap and it's Obama's fault or this economy is good. Which is it?

#56 | Posted by fishpaw

So naturally one wonders why are you Deplorables are freaking out about immigrants taking yer jerbs if the economy is so dang awesome.

#58 | Posted by donnerboy at 2019-06-18 05:28 PM | Reply

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