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Sunday, June 16, 2019

John Cassidy: Some weeks the Trump Presidency is a horror show; some weeks it is slapstick. This week it was both.



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Stephanopoulos: You want that kind of interference in our elections?

President Trump: It's not an interference, they have information. I think I'd take it. If I thought there was something wrong, I'd go maybe to the FBI. If I thought there was something wrong. But when somebody comes up with oppo research, right, they come up with oppo research. Oh, let's call the FBI. The FBI doesn't have enough agents to take care of it, but you go and talk honestly to congressmen, they all do it, they always have. And that's the way it is. It's called oppo research.


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Trump says he read Mueller report, falsely claims it found "no collusion"

...In an exclusive interview with ABC News, President Trump told George Stephanopoulos that he read the Mueller report, but falsely claimed that it found there was "no collusion" between his campaign and Russia.

TRUMP: "He found no collusion, and he didn't find anything to do with obstruction because they made a ruling based on his findings and they said no obstruction.

STEPHANOPOULOS: "He didn't examine collusion, he laid out evidence of obstruction."

TRUMP: "Oh are you trying to say now there was collusion? Even though he said there is 'no collusion?'"

STEPHANOPOULOS: "He didn't say there is no collusion. He said he didn't look at collusion."

TRUMP: "George, the report said 'no collusion.'"

STEPHANOPOULOS: "Did you read the report?"

TRUMP: "Yes I did, and you should read it too."

Reality check, from the Mueller report:

In evaluating whether evidence about collective action of multiple individuals constituted a crime, we applied the framework of conspiracy law, not the concept of "collusion." In so doing, the Office recognized that the word "collud[ e]" was used in communications with the Acting Attorney General confirming certain aspects of the investigation's scope and that the term has frequently been invoked in public reporting about the investigation. But collusion is not a specific offense or theory of liability found in the United States Code, nor is it a term of art in federal criminal law.

So, Pres trump claims he read the Mueller report?

Based upon my reading of it, it is over 400 pages of dense fact-based text. Now Pres Trump expects me to believe he has read it, the same Pres Trump whose aides have had to change their presentations to contain more pictures because Pres trump doesn't like to read text.

Yet that Pres Trump wants me to believe that he read the over 400 pages of the Mueller report.

Will he ever stop his narcissistic prevarication?

#1 | Posted by LampLighter at 2019-06-16 11:44 AM | Reply

So... Snuffaluffagus is Trump's Daddy for Father's Day.

How apropos.

#2 | Posted by Corky at 2019-06-16 12:09 PM | Reply

Trumplings won't care and Ds can't do anything about it. The man is obviously an idiot but he's your President for the foreseeable future.

#3 | Posted by SomebodyElse at 2019-06-16 12:14 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

What I'd Like to see..."Another fine mess you've gotten me in to",,,with a CGI of trump's face on Oliver hardy and Martin Short doing his Stan Laurel imitation at trump's expense

#4 | Posted by 1947steamer at 2019-06-16 12:26 PM | Reply

@#5 ... And were supposed to believe that,Lamplighter, read the over 400 pages of "dense fact based text" ...

You can believe what you want.

At the time it was released, I noted that I went to Staples and picked up a ream of three-hole punched paper, a binder and some loose leaf dividers. I printed it out and read it.

It was a good read, you should read it also. It's your choice.

But to the point of this thread, Pres Trump's comment show quite clearly that either he has not read it, or that he is [deliberately] misrepresenting what is in the report.

#6 | Posted by LampLighter at 2019-06-16 12:44 PM | Reply

Trump is such a shifty shape shifter it's impossible to have a interview with him.

It's what he does when he knows he's in the wrong. It's one of his "tells."

Look how quickly he changed the opposition research from an adversary like Russia to an innocent country like Norway. I believe he thinks that's how to win all his arguments. Just confuse the facts and cover up with obfuscation and bluster.

There was a guy in my neighborhood like that once. We called him a motor mouth.

#7 | Posted by Twinpac at 2019-06-16 12:48 PM | Reply

Can we have Trump interviewed by nothing but nuns with rulers from now on?

#8 | Posted by Tor at 2019-06-16 06:23 PM | Reply | Funny: 1


"Can we have Trump interviewed by nothing but nuns with rulers from now on?"

Are you advocating for lightening to strike. If so, I agree.

Or internal combustion, whichever comes first.

#9 | Posted by Twinpac at 2019-06-16 06:33 PM | Reply

Another Fine Mess for Trump

The problem with the premise: it's not Donald Trump's mess, it's ours. Or, in other words, he always made his messes become somebody else's - his "best" lenders, his "best" investors, his "best" lawyers, his "best" fixers, his "best" employees, his "best" friends, his "best" wives...

The first problem with his messes: He is a "Do you know who I am?" kind of "celebrity" and a narcissist, so "rules" (and often laws) simply do not apply to them. He was born into money and he resents that nobody believes he is "self-made" and possibly not even a billionaire (if you take the debts into account) so he compensates by imagining, believing and overstating the case for his "greatness," i.e., "worth $10 billion or more, loaned $1 million from parents, "very stable genius" etc. He is and always has been "entitled" - so much for the faux populism that his beloved "uneducated people" are buying. Like all good con men, he knows his unsophisticated audience and customers.

The second problem goes beyond his personal messes" and has to deal with the systematically strengthened to the point of being (by design) practically unchecked powers of the presidency and while we may often know "who is watching the watchers" we don't have a scrip / prescription / set of enforceable rules when watchers find improprieties or illegalities.

Having DOJ or FBI investigate President is a folly, because while we can keep telling ourselves that it's "independent"... it really isn't, it's part of executive branch. Neither, it turns out an "independent" Federal Reserve, is safe from corrupt Chief Executive. Thinking something is "technically independent" because that's how it always was "the norm" doesn't make them truly or "actually" independent by law.

The real problem with this mess is that neither Constitution nor Congress(es) usually prescribe what the specific civil or criminal penalties are in cases of high government officials and especially presidents flouting the law. And don't say "impeachment" because it's an (increasingly) ineffective and weak political tool dependent on vague standards and more importantly political and economic state of the nation / state, and the will of the majority of people and super-majority of Congress rather than a specific set of enforceable civil and criminal penalties. Combined with powers of pardons and other indulgencess given to President, impeachment has become all but a threat of a political theater which, sadly, has been established during Clinton's term.

Trump knows it and invites it. It only makes him look like a "victim" of a political "witch hunt" so it would only scare him if it will uncover his gross financial misdeeds, like money laundering - in which case he should be criminally prosecuted for it and/or civilly fined and bankrupted. He was proud to screw his banks, investors, contractors, "students" as long as he could continue doing what he's been doing at minimal cost to his pockets and his freedom. So impeachment that fails to remove him doesn't scare him, he'll wear it as a badge of honor and point to it as a reason for his loss in 2020 (if dems will not shoot themselves in a foot again and find someone even more lethargic and self-unaware than Hillary.

"He [Nixon] left. I don't leave", i.e. "Deal with it," "Make me," "Whatcha gonna do, impeach me? Go ahead, make my day!"

By these standards, the otherwise third-world country like Brazil and some others in Latin America and Asia that tried and put in prison their former "dear leaders" are way ahead of the U.S.

#10 | Posted by CutiePie at 2019-06-17 03:40 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2


That is the best 5-Star newsworthy post I've ever seen in all of my 11 years on this site.

Congratulations. I wish we could give you a bigger reward.

#11 | Posted by Twinpac at 2019-06-17 03:52 AM | Reply

I'm just amazed that the Russkies have pix of so many GOPers with goats/dead women/live boys, that a display of such mental instability can be put forth and the Republicans claim to have no issue with the leader of their political party...

#12 | Posted by catdog at 2019-06-17 12:57 PM | Reply

Dear Dems, please, this time rig your primaries for someone who doesn't suck worse than the incumbent.

#13 | Posted by visiter at 2019-06-17 01:47 PM | Reply

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