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Friday, June 14, 2019

The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) is informing health care providers and patients of the potential risk of serious or life-threatening infections with the use of fecal microbiota for transplantation (FMT). The agency is now aware of bacterial infections caused by multi-drug resistant organisms (MDROs) that have occurred due to transmission of a MDRO from use of investigational FMT.

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You're full of ----! No, you're full of my ----, now die damn you, die. WTF Did I just read?

#1 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2019-06-13 07:45 PM | Reply

Well isn't that the drizzling schits??

#2 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2019-06-13 08:10 PM | Reply

C. diff killed my aunt. The gut biome is important and when it gets colonized by bad bugs you may die.

#3 | Posted by bored at 2019-06-13 08:50 PM | Reply

I think this means Illegitimate President Bucket of ---- can't donate blood.

#4 | Posted by truthhurts at 2019-06-13 11:07 PM | Reply

This is why the push right now is to move towards a defined consortium of bacteria to avoid things like this.

Problem is that if those consortiums are patented, a relatively simple treatment will become unnecessarily $$$$$$$.

#5 | Posted by jpw at 2019-06-13 11:19 PM | Reply

#4 Trump cultists have been getting free inoculations of fast food biome for years. Finally Trump is contributing to society.

#6 | Posted by bored at 2019-06-14 12:45 AM | Reply

I worked as a hospitalist for 30 years, before anybody used the term. I remember when big gun antibiotics led to diarrhea it was infrequent and easily treated. Then it started to get a bit more serious and we had to be creative with the antibiotics we used. But still for the most part a relatively inconsequential complication from therapy.

When I retired, 300,000 people were dying a year from what was once an inconsequential and easily treated consequence of antibiotic therapy. I remember the first reports on fecal transplants, though thats not what they called them. Kind of repulsive. They would take some stool from the patients spouse (thinking that that biome was the closest to the patient's pre-antibiotic biome) and put it through a blender and then pass a tube into the patients stomach through a tube in the nose and run the liquid in. Either that or an enema of the liquid. There was nearly a 100% cure rate.

Truly miraculous. Now understand it comes in a pill to be swallowed. I don't know who the "donor" is now but I suspect from this article, they will need to screen those donors a bit more closely.

But as repulsive as this sounds, it has saved thousands of lives.

#7 | Posted by prius04 at 2019-06-14 01:05 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

Ain't that some ----.

#8 | Posted by qcp at 2019-06-14 01:10 PM | Reply

Truly miraculous. Now understand it comes in a pill to be swallowed. I don't know who the "donor" is now but I suspect from this article, they will need to screen those donors a bit more closely.

IIRC there is a non-profit in Boston who collects, banks and distributes the majority of the transplant material. I believe this is it:

www.openbiome.org

They screen for known pathogens but we know so little about the "normal" microbiome and it's interaction with the host immune system and genetics that it's still a shot in the dark in many aspects. It was only recently discovered that the most common commensal, B thetaiotaomicron, can be pathogenic in certain situations (IBD susceptible individuals).

#9 | Posted by jpw at 2019-06-14 01:12 PM | Reply

WTF?

Now that is a crappy idea!

I have heard of a method by which people get certain beneficial worms from infected feces. BI heard of a guy who went to Africa and infected himself with a blood-sucking parasites by walking in infected (human) feces. . The parasites apparently cured him, and he believes hookworm can help people with asthma, diabetes and MS.walks in the feces and so after he gets the worms he separated them from his feces and sells them (cleansed) to others. Which I thought was weird enough and has it's own issues but trading ----? Ok that is ridiculous.

standard disclaimer: I am not a doctor and I do not play one on the Internets.

#10 | Posted by donnerboy at 2019-06-14 06:26 PM | Reply

Woman Becomes Obese After Fecal Transplant From Overweight Donor www.iflscience.com

Powerful biology here

#11 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2019-06-14 07:22 PM | Reply

"The agency is now aware of bacterial infections caused by multi-drug resistant organisms (MDROs) that have occurred due to transmission of a MDRO from use of investigational FMT."

I would not be surprised if MRDOs are not all that uncommon in feces, they just never get a chance to develop into an infection.

Whereas in a person so sick they need FMT, any bugs in the, uh, medicine, MDRO or not, are likely to have an easier time causing problems in a person so sick they need FMT.

#12 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-06-14 07:31 PM | Reply

there's this kid and he's down at his grandpa's farm. they're out feeding the rabbits and the boy noticed that rabbit turds are small hard and round and don't smell all that much. Eureka!!!...he scoops up a handful and puts them in his pocket. when he gets to school on monday morning he says "boys look what i got here...they're smart pills and they're only 10 cents apiece" he sold out almost immediately and while he was counting his cash one of the boys commented that those smart pills "tasted like ---" which prompted our young entrepreneur to quip "see, you're getting smarter already"

#13 | Posted by MizWatsonsJim at 2019-06-14 10:49 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

they're smart pills
#13 | Posted by MizWatsonsJim

That's pretty good, but can you get some of those pills to the current White House staff?

#14 | Posted by SomebodyElse at 2019-06-15 04:38 PM | Reply

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