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A U.S. Army base in Oklahoma that the federal government says will temporarily house children crossing the border without their parents was used during World War II as a Japanese internment camp.

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Headline fail......

#1 | Posted by Sniper at 2019-06-13 10:47 AM | Reply

Fake News headline crime.

JPW will call you out and demand banning.

#2 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-06-13 11:01 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Hey s--- heap, if you don't like it stop incessantly lying, spinning and distorting (same goes for your flagging butt buddy nulli).

The headline is definitely a troll job. There's no denying that.

Still doesn't rise to the level constant BS and lying that we see associated with "POSTED BY SHEEPLESHART".

#3 | Posted by jpw at 2019-06-13 01:21 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#1 | Posted by Sniper at 2019-06-13 10:47 AM | Reply | Flag:

#2 | Posted by SheepleSchism

Retort fails...Try Preparation H for those painful AXX Roids!

FTA-"A U.S. Army base in Oklahoma that the federal government says will temporarily house children crossing the border without their parents was used during World War II as a Japanese internment camp."

#4 | Posted by donnerboy at 2019-06-13 01:53 PM | Reply

"The "former Japanese internment camp" is also just a U.S. Army base that's been continually operating since the 1860's."

But don't let facts get in the way of a hysterical headline

Anyway, it was a Democrat president who turned it into an internment camp for American citizens, so maybe this isn't the greatest talking point for the Left.

#5 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-06-13 01:53 PM | Reply

Still doesn't rise to the level constant BS and lying that we see associated with "POSTED BY SHEEPLESHART".

#3 | Posted by jpw

Bro, the new rule is.. it is OK for Conservotards to use headlines to troll.

But, when we -------- do it then suddenly it is "Fake News" (even if every word is true!)

And Shep is very sensitive about these things (triggered) as he gets called out for his attempts at fake news all the time.

#6 | Posted by donnerboy at 2019-06-13 01:58 PM | Reply

"But don't let facts get in the way of a hysterical headline..."

How else will we trigger the Nazis to come out and play?

#7 | Posted by donnerboy at 2019-06-13 01:59 PM | Reply

Rightwing --------- are more upset about a headline on a blog than they are about the president putting out an RFP for hostile foreign election interference.

#8 | Posted by JOE at 2019-06-13 02:09 PM | Reply

Fort Sill, (also known as Ft.Silly) has been an active army post sense before 1870. Originally built by the 10th Calvary,(Buffalo Soldiers). It has held Comanche and Apache POWs, (Geronimo died there in 1901). Imprisoned rustlers and whiskey peddlers when they were the only law enforcement in the area before Oklahoma Statehood. Became the School of Fire during WWI (Truman trained there) and remained the home of the Artillery ever sense. The facilities are nice, among the best in the Army. What reference was there for having Japanese-Americans held there? During WWII it was a serious training base sending troops to Europe and the Pacific, thousands every month. Generally internees were not kept around active training bases. Fort Hood did have a internment center for alien Germans, far away from every thing, (Hood is huge). I never heard of a Japanese interment center there, and I thought I knew the area pretty well.

#9 | Posted by docnjo at 2019-06-13 02:15 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Seems they were there for a short time and were moved elsewhere ASAP. Remember at this time the soldiers were living under canvas too. They who were there did move into 5 year knock ups before the winter months after the Japanese departed.

#10 | Posted by docnjo at 2019-06-13 02:27 PM | Reply

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There were 10 internment camps established under FDR's Executive Order 9066:

Topaz Internment Camp, Central Utah.
Colorado River (Poston) Internment Camp, Arizona.
Gila River Internment Camp, Phoenix, Arizona.
Granada (Amache) Internment Camp, Colorado.
Heart Mountain Internment Camp, Wyoming.
Jerome Internment Camp, Arkansas.
Manzanar Internment Camp, California.

Fort Sill was used according to the Army times, as an interim detainment facility for between 350-700 detainees before transfer to one of the 10 permanent facilities, as were other military bases. It later housed German and Italian POWS.

Notably, during another migration surge in 2014, the Obama administration also used Fort Sill to house unaccompanied migrant children.

Oklahoma base set for migrant site was WWII internment camp

#11 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-06-13 02:28 PM | Reply

#11

Does that excuse what's currently happening?

#12 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-06-13 02:36 PM | Reply

#12

Where should they be housed? Or should they just be set free to fend for themselves. They are, after all, unaccompanied.

The Obama administration had to house them somewhere, where was your fauxrage then?

#13 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-06-13 02:39 PM | Reply

it was a Democrat president who turned it into an internment camp for American citizens,

Back in the 1940s. So, around 80 years ago.

Yes, it was wrong then, and it's wrong now.

Can you admit as much?

#14 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-06-13 02:40 PM | Reply

"Using military bases in this way is not new. In 2014, the Obama Administration placed around 7,700 migrant children on bases in Texas, California and Oklahoma, including Fort Sill.

time.com

Fascist!

#15 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-06-13 02:48 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

should they just be set free to fend for themselves. They are, after all, unaccompanied.

Were they unaccompanied when they arrived to the border? Or were they separated from their families/guardians? Where were they trying to get to? Are they orphans?

The Obama administration had to house them somewhere, where was your fauxrage then?

It wasn't news when Obama was president.

But your "gotcha" is wasted.

I was very critical about a lot of things Obama did and didn't do. Especially with regards to DAPL (The North Dakota pipeline) and his support for corporations like Monsanto.

Obama was very good for corporate America and not all too concerned with main street America.

Now back to 2019. You seem to support the actions of putting these children into camps. What's the next step? They live there forever? Adoption? Train them to be maids and gardeners? Wait until people stop paying attention and mysteriously misplace them all?

#16 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-06-13 02:50 PM | Reply

#14 | Posted by ClownShack I guess we could turn them out on the street. They are minors, found without their parents, many likely kidnapped. What prey tell would you do?

#17 | Posted by docnjo at 2019-06-13 02:51 PM | Reply

"Using military bases in this way is not new. In 2014, the Obama Administration placed around 7,700 migrant children on bases in Texas, California and Oklahoma, including Fort Sill.
#15 | POSTED BY NULLIFIDIAN

What does this excuse?

Why are you so intent on finding excuses for putting children into internment camps?

Are you okay with putting these kids into these camps?

#18 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-06-13 02:53 PM | Reply

Were they unaccompanied when they arrived to the border?

Neither of us have any idea, but it is clear that some are coming alone. Sorry if you can't fauxrage without more information.

You seem to support the actions of putting these children into camps.

I already asked (and you refused to answer), what is the alternative?

What's the next step?

Your input would be greatly appreciated by ICE.

#19 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-06-13 02:54 PM | Reply

It wasn't news when Obama was president.
#16 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK

LOL. You're half way there.

it's not news now either.

It's hysteria.

#20 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-06-13 02:58 PM | Reply

They are minors, found without their parents, many likely kidnapped.

They were "found without their parents", and according to #13, "unaccompanied."

They were also "likely kidnapped"?

Where were their kidnappers? Hiding out of sight?

Can you all agree to one narrative and try again?

#21 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-06-13 03:01 PM | Reply

------------------ cheers when his child raping hero snuffs out migrant kids.

#22 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2019-06-13 03:01 PM | Reply

it's not news now either.

It is news, and should have been then as well.

#23 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-06-13 03:02 PM | Reply

what is the alternative?

Allow them to continue onto their end destinations.

Your input would be greatly appreciated

So, no answer to my question?

#24 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-06-13 03:06 PM | Reply

I say it's good we are feeding and housing these kids. It's not good we separated them from families.

so what know? do what we can to reunite them with their families.......that's the first thing we do.

then, once we have then reunited....and realizing they are all here illegally....send them back.

#25 | Posted by eberly at 2019-06-13 03:27 PM | Reply

but they can stop by my house on the way out of the country to mow my yard first....I'm owed some free labor for the free clothes, housing, healthcare, and food.

#26 | Posted by eberly at 2019-06-13 03:28 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

do what we can to reunite them with their families....

This isn't going to happen. But, I'm in favor of all attempts to do so.

send them back

If that's the goal, why take them to these camps? Just cut to the chase and send them back.

#27 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-06-13 03:40 PM | Reply

If that's the goal, why take them to these camps? Just cut to the chase and send them back.

good question....is there some legal obstacle to doing that? If not...get to it.

#28 | Posted by eberly at 2019-06-13 03:41 PM | Reply

Allow them to continue onto their end destinations.

What if the US is their end destination, then what? You think it is smart to allow 8 year olds to wander alone through Mexicali or El Paso?

Call me crazy, I don't, but I have kids.

#29 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-06-13 03:52 PM | Reply

What if the US is their end destination, then what?

Then they made it Hallelujah! What was their next goal? Be put into internment camps?

You think it is smart to allow 8 year olds to wander alone through Mexicali or El Paso?

What's the alternative? Why is it you imagine they are heading to America? For the sweet sweet opportunity to plunge toilets, wash dishes, and pick fruits? Or they fleeing from something?

Call me crazy, I don't, but I have kids.

Do you believe your children are facing the same situation these kids were?

What would cause your kids to do what these kids are?

#30 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-06-13 04:01 PM | Reply

What's the alternative?

#30 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK AT 2019-06-13 04:01 PM

Oh maybe what we did before we separated them from their families and put them in prison camps?

#31 | Posted by hatter5183 at 2019-06-13 05:00 PM | Reply

#31

Could it possibly that easy?

#32 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-06-13 05:05 PM | Reply

Oh maybe what we did before we separated them from their families and put them in prison camps?

#31 | POSTED BY HATTER5183 AT 2019-06-13 05:00 PM

You must have missed this:

"Using military bases in this way is not new. In 2014, the Obama Administration placed around 7,700 migrant children on bases in Texas, California and Oklahoma, including Fort Sill."

Looks like we are doing what we did in 2014.

#33 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-06-13 05:13 PM | Reply

What's the alternative?

To be taken into the care of Child Services and housed in temporary housing until their relatives are found or they are put in Foster Care.

Guess what, that is exactly what ICE is doing as well.

But you are desperate to make them into political pawns to advance your fauxrage.

#34 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-06-13 05:15 PM | Reply

Looks like we are doing what we did in 2014.

Not sure how that's an excuse.

Also, what was the procedure before then?

I'm not of the opinion that just cause Obama did it so can Trump.

If this were being covered in 2014 the outrage would have been the same.

#35 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-06-13 05:24 PM | Reply

If this were being covered in 2014

That is the key, the media wouldn't dare criticize Obama for something like this, nor would the Democrats.

#36 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-06-13 05:26 PM | Reply

To be taken into the care of Child Services and housed in temporary housing until their relatives are found or they are put in Foster Care.

This is a beautiful PR message. So clean and tidy.

We're not imprisoning these children, we're making sure nothing bad happens to them.

#37 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-06-13 05:27 PM | Reply

Not sure how that's an excuse.

Also, what was the procedure before then?

It really hasn't changed much in the last two decades or so, this is from an article in 2011:

"Unaccompanied Child Immigrants in the United States

Although unaccompanied children come to the United States from all over the world, between 73 and 75 percent of unaccompanied children are boys from El Salvador, Honduras, and Mexico according to the Office of Refugee Resettlement (ORR). In 2009, around 80 percent were between the ages of 15 and 18. Since many boys begin working around these ages, and since travel is safer for boys, they are more likely than girls to migrate alone.

A child apprehended by the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) either via Customs and Border Protection (CBP) at the border or Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) in the interior of the United States must go through the following process:

Through a translator, ICE or CBP determines whether the child is unaccompanied.

If the child is unaccompanied, he or she is detained for up to 72 hours in a facility separate from adults, where the agency checks the child's nationality, determines the child's age through physical exams and psychological evaluations, and performs a background check. If the child has no identification, these checks are done based on what the child tells the evaluating official.

The child is given an explanation of his or her rights and a list of free legal services. If the child does not withdraw their application for admission, or if they wish to file an asylum claim, the child is transferred to ORR within 72 hours. ORR is then charged with the care, custody, and placement of the child. If the minor has a criminal record or is considered violent, he or she may be held in a secure facility. At this point, the minor may have access to a lawyer.

According to the Congressional Research Service, more than 80,000 children have been apprehended annually since 2001, the vast majority having migrated from Mexico.

Following a few years of record high levels of unaccompanied children in ICE custody, 6,074 children were placed in ORR care in 2009, a decrease of 35 percent from 2007 (the most recent years for which numbers are publicly available); the drop follows an overall dip in immigrant apprehensions nationwide. According to ORR, 1,871 children, on average, were in the agency's care daily in 2010."

January 24, 2011: Unaccompanied Immigrant Children: A Growing Phenomenon with Few Easy Solutions

#38 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-06-13 05:33 PM | Reply

#37

That's what would happen to any child found wandering without their parents in any major city in the US.

#39 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-06-13 05:34 PM | Reply

--Speak up. Speak out. Be on the right side of history.

Hilarious but not surprising to see Gavin Moonbeam utter that arrogant, delusional, leftist tripe. Leftists have been patting themselves on the back and claiming that they are on the "right side of history" ever since Marx claimed to have discovered "the laws of history" which would inevitably lead to "scientific socialism," i.e. a communist society.

#40 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-06-13 05:35 PM | Reply

#37 | Posted by ClownShack Hate to tell you this, the foster care system in Texas and Oklahoma and New Mexico and Arizona and California have been swamped. No more room any where. Why don't you volunteer your virtue signaling self and take in a kid or two. Secondly, these kids may have been found with adults, but they were found not to be any relation to them. Kidnapping is a real problem in Latin America. The average illegal knows if they are found at the border they will be cut loose soon if they have "their" children with them, that was until they started doing paternity tests and found 1/3 were not any relationship to those adults what so ever.

#41 | Posted by docnjo at 2019-06-13 05:39 PM | Reply

Why don't you volunteer your virtue signaling self and take in a kid or two.

I'll bet that clown shack of his could hold twenty of them, just like a clown car.

#42 | Posted by Spork at 2019-06-13 07:04 PM | Reply

'll bet that clown shack of his could hold twenty of them, just like a clown car.

Then I can collect those sweet sweet Government checks.

Why not be honest and admit you don't care what happens to them as long as they aren't on your front lawn.

#43 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-06-13 07:07 PM | Reply

They are minors, found without their parents, many likely kidnapped. What prey tell would you do?

#17 | POSTED BY DOCNJO

I would treat them like them were my own kids.

I would:

Feed them, clothe them, give them medical care, educate them. Show them that I care about them by making sure they are cared for. Give them a path to citizenship. Get them a job.

What would I not do?

Whatever the hell trumpy and his deplorables think they are doing. And I would definitely NOT take them from their parents/guardians and lock them in cages like animals.

#44 | Posted by donnerboy at 2019-06-13 07:16 PM | Reply

They are minors, found without their parents, many likely kidnapped. What prey tell would you do?
#17 | POSTED BY DOCNJO

I would make a point to treat the kidnap victims differently than the ones who aren't kidnapped.
maybe you'd like to explain why you think it's better to treat them all the same.

#45 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-06-13 07:27 PM | Reply

You think kidnap victims should be put in penal style camps. Dont you see how wrong that is?

#46 | Posted by hatter5183 at 2019-06-13 10:55 PM | Reply

Pretty much what Liberals signed them up for ...

#47 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-06-13 11:04 PM | Reply

Why not be honest and admit you don't care what happens to them as long as they aren't on your front lawn.

I do care, but unlike you I don't invite people over that don't want to come in the front door.

#48 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-06-13 11:06 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I would treat them like them were my own kids.

The real question is how many?

#49 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-06-13 11:06 PM | Reply

I would treat them like them were my own kids.

I would also add to that, no you wouldn't ... science....

#50 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-06-13 11:07 PM | Reply

You think kidnap victims should be put in penal style camps. Dont you see how wrong that is?

#46 | POSTED BY HATTER5183

Where were you when ....

Just five years ago Oklahoma's Fort Sill was used as a detention facility for migrant children under President Barack Obama.

WHEN OBAMA SENT MIGRANT CHILDREN TO EX-JAPANESE INTERNMENT CAMP, IT WAS CALLED FORT SILL: CRITICS SLAM 'HYPOCRISY' OF OUTRAGE OVER TRUMP DETENTION PLAN
www.newsweek.com

#51 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-06-14 12:08 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#51

Fauxrage On Parade, as shown by Dummerboy and Hater's oblivious posts in #44 and 46.

#52 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-06-14 12:15 AM | Reply

--This is sick

Bet Gavin Moonbeam didn't say that about Obama when he spent 8 years doing nothing but hoping for Jerry to go away.

#53 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-06-14 01:31 AM | Reply

It's getting tired, NULLI.

#54 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2019-06-14 01:33 AM | Reply

I do care, but unlike you I Blah Blah Blah..,
#48 | POSTED BY A Mattress

What are you doing about fixing the home nations they're fleeing from?

Nothing you're ignoring the problem.

What are you doing to help them?

Again, nothing. You're demonizing them. Painting them as killers and rapists. Blame them for homelessness. For taking American jobs.

You're a liar, Mattress.

Go sell your crocodile tears to someone else.

#55 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-06-14 03:18 AM | Reply

It's getting tired, NULLI.

You'll have to ignore him.

He's turned into Sniper.

#56 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-06-14 03:19 AM | Reply

"Using military bases in this way is not new. In 2014, the Obama Administration placed around 7,700 migrant children on bases in Texas, California and Oklahoma, including Fort Sill."

If the Trump administration follows the Obama administration's example and uses Fort Sill as a temporary facility while also allowing outside groups and the media access to the kids while the administration seeks better, long term solutions for them, I don't think most people will object:

Of course, the Obama administration temporarily housed migrants at military bases, including Fort Sill, for four months in 2014, built many of the newer facilities to house migrants, and pioneered some of the tactics the Trump administration is now using to try to manage the situation at the border."

www.esquire.com

#57 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-06-14 07:55 AM | Reply

#55 | Posted by ClownShack Ask yourself, If you were a Mexican criminal, where would you go? Criminals are basically lazy and they go where the targets are easy and the the rewards are better. They have a target population that generally do not report crimes to the police. The opportunities for robbery are far greater. Example, about 1/3rd of the cars in Mexico are stolen in the US. Most illegals are just guys trying to make a honest living, but have no doubt, about 5% are not here to do the same.

#58 | Posted by docnjo at 2019-06-14 08:02 AM | Reply

Too bad this teenage mother wasn't pregnant when she got here, then some Trump administration officials might have pretended to give a damn:

Premature Baby Found in Overcrowded Border Patrol Facility in Texas

The teenage girl with pigtail braids was hunched over in a wheelchair and holding a bunched sweatshirt when an immigrant advocate met her at a crowded Border Patrol facility in Texas.

She opened the sweatshirt and the advocate gasped. It was a tiny baby, born premature, being held in detention instead of where she believes she should have been -- a hospital neonatal unit.

ktla.com

#59 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-06-14 08:09 AM | Reply

#59 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday I guess you expect the matrons to be able to read minds now. They can't do anything about a situation until they know it exists. Did the girl ask for medical help? Did anyone in the area tell the matrons the girl was in trouble? I have to ask, is her being there the fault of those who are enforcing the law? Is any responsibly lay with a girl who crossed the border, pregnant? Of course she could have become one of the dozens of corpses we find out in the countryside, then she would not matter to you would she?

#60 | Posted by docnjo at 2019-06-14 09:56 AM | Reply

Democrats get torched for tweeting fake news on detainment camp for migrant children
They're misrepresenting the truth to attack President Trump

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Democratic lawmakers and media outlets were criticized heavily for spreading a false narrative about the Trump administration detaining migrant children in former internment camps.
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One of the offending Democrats was Democratic Senator Merkley of Oregon.

#61 | Posted by Sniper at 2019-06-14 10:49 AM | Reply

#44 | Posted by donnerboy You will never do it, those kids are just an opportunity for you to virtue signal. Raising kids is hard, that is why abortion is a holy sacrament for the left. Consequence is a bitch.

#62 | Posted by docnjo at 2019-06-14 10:52 AM | Reply

"Of course, the Obama administration temporarily housed migrants at military bases, including Fort Sill, for four months in 2014, built many of the newer facilities to house migrants, and pioneered some of the tactics the Trump administration is now using to try to manage the situation at the border.""

Stop trying to be logical and factual. It doesn't work on this site. Partisan haters will attack you personally because they can't refute what you say. Well, most likely in this case, Liberals will come out and say a "facility" and an "Military Base" are not the same thing because "facility" is spelled with less letters, you stupid idiot dumb sheeple person!!!! Or some other lame personal attack that has nothing to do with the topic.

#63 | Posted by humtake at 2019-06-14 12:31 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"I guess you expect the matrons to be able to read minds now."

I expect them to pay as much attention to teenage mothers as they do to teenagers who don't want to be mothers:

The U.S. Is Tracking Migrant Girls' Periods to Stop Them From Getting Abortions

www.harpersbazaar.com

#64 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-06-14 08:40 PM | Reply

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