Drudge Retort: The Other Side of the News
Thursday, June 13, 2019

An independent investigator hired by the city of Vallejo to review the fatal Feb. 9 police shooting of Willie McCoy found the use of force "reasonable and necessary," according to a report released this week.

Advertisement

More

Comments

Admin's note: Participants in this discussion must follow the site's moderation policy. Profanity will be filtered. Abusive conduct is not allowed.

How to further the racial divide?

#1 | Posted by fresno500 at 2019-06-13 07:21 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Anyone else see the similarities?

Hunting with Uncle Jimbo

#2 | Posted by Hoser at 2019-06-13 10:45 AM | Reply | Funny: 1


From the cited article:

...[the independent investigator, David Blake, a retired Livermore and BART police officer] determined officers acted in line with current use-of-force practices. "Officers are not required to wait until a weapon is pointed at them to take the necessary steps to save their own lives," he wrote....

In reference to the 55 shots fired at McCoy, Blake's report noted that law enforcement does not "generally receive stress-based training" to stop firing, but rather officers are taught to "fire until the threat has been neutralized."...


So the police are allowed to kill someone, even if they are not threatened with an actual weapon?

And it appears that it is OK for the police to go into a mode of stress-based shooting if they think they have to act to save their life, a mode where they may act irrationally, but that is OK because they are stressed?

imo, there is something very wrong here.


#3 | Posted by LampLighter at 2019-06-13 11:46 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 8

FOP Catch-22

#4 | Posted by 1947steamer at 2019-06-13 11:52 AM | Reply


@#4 ... FOP ...

FOP?

Maybe: Fibrodysplasia ossificans progressiva

#5 | Posted by LampLighter at 2019-06-13 11:55 AM | Reply

So the police are allowed to kill someone, even if they are not threatened with an actual weapon?

#3 | POSTED BY LAMPLIGHTER

Yes.

But don't you worry. Arming teachers definitely won't lead to teachers being shot by accident.

#6 | Posted by Sycophant at 2019-06-13 12:07 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

The link to Chronicle website leads to paywall counts and stupid popups.
Here is Youtube link to video:
www.youtube.com

#7 | Posted by LesWit at 2019-06-13 01:29 PM | Reply

I wonder when the (R)tards will start caring about the cops murdering people?
If this was happening to the MAGA hats instead of black people I'm sure the concern level would be much different.

#8 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2019-06-13 02:25 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Wait. What?!!!

Read the situation they were in.

No reason at all to shoot him. Zero.

#9 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2019-06-13 03:11 PM | Reply

Just one of the reasons I don't own a gun.

...so it's not on my lap when I pass out at the drive-thru while my car's in gear. Jesus.

Overreaction? In hind-sight, yes. Stupid move by driver? Definitely.

But how is a cop to know the intention of every person acting strangely and possessing a weapon?

#10 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-06-13 03:38 PM | Reply

Advertisement

Advertisement

Maybe: Fibrodysplasia ossificans progressiva
#5 | POSTED BY LAMPLIGHTER

with a bit of massaging you might work out a "boneheaded" metaphor...might work with an impotence slant too. lol

#11 | Posted by 1947steamer at 2019-06-13 03:53 PM | Reply


@#10 ... But how is a cop to know the intention of every person acting strangely and possessing a weapon? ...

It is their job to know how to handle such occurrences. That is what they are being paid to do.

The question you should be asking is why was the training, provided to the police involved in this incident, so bad and how has it been changed.

Is it really necessary shoot 55 bullets at such a close distance to neutralize a person? Are they that bad at aiming? Why did they shoot to kill and not just to incapacitate? Why did they seem to severely exacerbate the situation instead of trying to defuse it?


#12 | Posted by LampLighter at 2019-06-13 03:57 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

But how is a cop to know the intention of every person acting strangely and possessing a weapon?

#10 | POSTED BY SHEEPLESCHISM AT 2019-06-13 03:38 PM | REPLY | FLAG:

Well. The gentleman was asleep.

#13 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2019-06-13 04:03 PM | Reply

Why not call swat and park armored vehicles on every side of his car?

#14 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2019-06-13 04:04 PM | Reply

It is their job to know how to handle such occurrences.

And 99.9% of the time it comes out fine..

That is what they are being paid to do.

Yeah, not paid to die.

The question you should be asking is why was the training, provided to the police involved in this incident, so bad and how has it been changed.

Do you feel the training was bad because of the outcome? IF this is how you evaluate the training then it will never "good". Bad things will always happen, the question should be are they getting better?

Is it really necessary shoot 55 bullets at such a close distance to neutralize a person?

People smarter than us deem this to be the case.

Why did they seem to severely exacerbate the situation instead of trying to defuse it?

Seems like they were "defusing" it, the responded to a call that someone was sitting in the drive through asleep. They cops then saw the weapon, and decided to try to ascertain the weapon from Willie, then get him out of the car. Seems like a good plan? But isnt defusing enough for you?

What went wrong ...

Well look at the thread on ConcealedCarry ... Liberals complain it increases violence, then here complain cops are at fault for someone not using any common sense when it comes to a weapon.

Its fascinating to see.

Liberals defend craziness, then complain people want protect themselves.
Liberals want guns off the streets, then complain when someone is shot because they handle one with no common sense.

#15 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-06-14 11:47 AM | Reply

then complain when someone is shot because they handle one with no common sense.

#15 | POSTED BY ANDREAMACKRIS

He was sleeping.

#16 | Posted by MrSilenceDogood at 2019-06-14 01:16 PM | Reply

But how is a cop to know the intention of every person acting strangely and possessing a weapon?

#10 | POSTED BY SHEEPLESCHISM AT 2019-06-13 03:38 PM |

But hey lets make sure everyone has a weapon so that everyone you deem to be acting strangely has a weapon

#17 | Posted by hatter5183 at 2019-06-14 05:03 PM | Reply

"But how is a cop to know the intention of every person acting strangely and possessing a weapon?"

By shooting at said person repeatedly.

#18 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-06-14 05:04 PM | Reply

Comments are closed for this entry.

Home | Breaking News | Comments | User Blogs | Stats | Back Page | RSS Feed | RSS Spec | DMCA Compliance | Privacy | Copyright 2019 World Readable

Drudge Retort