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Thursday, June 13, 2019

Elizabeth Warren leaped ahead of Bernie Sanders into second place in a pair of Democratic presidential primary polls released Wednesday.

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This is the point where Dems need to really start worrying. Warren will not win a national election. Biden will slowly fade away as he brings nothing to the table and he either loses the left for being too centrist or he swings left and loses the middle of the party. I can see why Vegas is betting on a Trump 2nd term. Worse, the Dems really have no one on their bench for 2024. I assume Pelosi will be put out to pasture by them so someone will get a leadership position and maybe turn that into something - but by and large it is a bunch twits with no accomplishments. A mayor of a small town is a serious contender - remember when Gov. of Alaska was too small of an accomplishment? I never thought the Dems would self destruct to this level so quickly.

#1 | Posted by iragoldberg at 2019-06-13 05:52 AM | Reply | Funny: 2

Warren is a candidate who will destroy Trump in debates, has real ideas and plans to implement them. She scares the Trumpers to death because she is so much better a candidate than Orange Hitler. approximately five Dems now lead Trump in the polls so when the Democrats finally do choose a nominee those five candidates' supporters will unite against Trump with a huge number advantage. Folks like Ira can pretend all you want but, in reality, Trump is toast. GOP can only win elections by cheating so Dems will have to flood the polls with millions of legal voters to make it impossible to steal the election as we did for Obama. I'll never forget the look on Karl Rove's face on election night 2012 when he believed that the Repulicans were going to steal the election but were foiled in Ohio. Anonymous claimed credit, fine with me, do it again Anonymous.

#2 | Posted by danni at 2019-06-13 06:48 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 5

"Warren is a candidate who will destroy Trump in debates, has real ideas and plans to implement them. "

Warren is an idiot that is easily baited - as demonstrated with the DNA test. She is completely cringey too - so the more people see her, the worse she looks. Now, she is doing her rounds of 'free stuff for everyone', but that just makes her look dumb as the adults in the country know this is not feasible.

"She scares the Trumpers to death because she is so much better a candidate than Orange Hitler."

Yeah, she scares us just like Alexandria Occasional Cortex scares us. Please put the spotlight on her.

"approximately five Dems now lead Trump in the polls"

You don't actually believe that do you? Biden might out poll Trump currently but that is more a reflection of poor polling methods.

"Ira can pretend all you want but, in reality, Trump is toast. "

Trust Vegas - Trump is +100 at this point. As to Rove - there was not plot - Rove is just stupid/naive. He has shown this time and again which is why he will never work on a major campaign again.

"GOP can only win elections by cheating"

Yeah, Pokemon ads from Russia totally changed the results in 2016

#3 | Posted by iragoldberg at 2019-06-13 07:29 AM | Reply

Outtrumping Trump with her "economic patriotism" shtick probably explains it.

#4 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-06-13 11:14 AM | Reply

I'll never forget the look on Karl Rove's face on election night 2012 when he believed that the Repulicans were going to steal the election but were foiled in Ohio. Anonymous claimed credit, fine with me, do it again Anonymous.

You sure Anonymous didn't steal the election? Thats how we roll now, cheering people to steal elections?

#5 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-06-13 11:32 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Biden will slowly fade away as he brings nothing to the table and he either loses the left for being too centrist or he swings left and loses the middle of the party."

Biden does not need the far left if he can hold on to the center-left and the center. Which, unlike HRC, he probably can.

#6 | Posted by sentinel at 2019-06-13 11:36 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

"Warren will not win a national election."

Saturday Night Live agrees with this, and wrote her off a long time ago.

www.youtube.com

#7 | Posted by sentinel at 2019-06-13 11:42 AM | Reply

#6 | POSTED BY SENTINEL

IMO, unfortunately in order to win the nomination Biden must capture the far-left.

This is why I feel the Democrats will split between a "centerleft" and "farleft" candidate, much like the previous election.

#8 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-06-13 11:46 AM | Reply

- so when the Democrats finally do choose a nominee those five candidates' supporters will unite against Trump with a huge number advantage.

#2 | POSTED BY DANNI

Unless by some DNC majik that candidate is Biden.

Then you're going to see what an angry mob really looks like.

because 4 more years of Trump is a lock.

#9 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-06-13 12:02 PM | Reply

Anonymous claimed credit, fine with me, do it again Anonymous.
#2 | POSTED BY DANNI

*Bookmarked for future reference*

You've forfeited your right to ever complain about election hacking again Danni.

#10 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-06-13 12:11 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

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Danni only hates election hacking when it is allegedly done against her #Team.

#11 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-06-13 12:15 PM | Reply

Biden knows what he's doing. He was on the winning national ticket twice, and stepping aside in 2016 to let HRC inevitably implode was a shrewd move. The #metoo movement has already overreached and marginalized itself from the backlash it caused. I think he only needs to espouse the same views he had when he was Vice President under Obama to capture enough votes to win the nomination, because most people are tired of Trump and would like to see an actual adult in the White House again.

#12 | Posted by sentinel at 2019-06-13 12:19 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Warren is the one. She is liberal enough for progressives who dominate the Party. She has a ton of ideas (- though whether most of them are realistic is another issue). She is articulate and comes across as very good natured. She is really, really smart. And, she is a woman, which is important in this day and age, especially after the hatred of Trump. Unless she really stumbles badly, Warren will be our next President.

#13 | Posted by moder8 at 2019-06-13 12:23 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

This is actually a good thing for both Warren and Sanders, because it makes Warren a much more relevant challenger to Biden and is going to force Sanders and his team to actually sharpen their policy game since that is what has helped Warren capture some momentum. Where this will hurt Biden is as both Warren and Sanders get more specific on policies that appeal to the far left that will also draw some center left interest to Sanders and Warren.

I guarantee you that Biden's policy wonks are paying close attention to this shift.

#14 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-06-13 12:23 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Unless she really stumbles badly, Warren will be our next President.

#13 | POSTED BY MODER8 AT 2019-06-13 12:23 PM

I agreed with everything you said up to this point, but she won't be able to move far enough to the middle given her initial policy positions to grab the Obama cross-over voters that handed the Presidency to Trump.

#15 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-06-13 12:25 PM | Reply

"I will cure CANCER and Death ITSELF!" - Biden 2020

#16 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-06-13 12:30 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

As is obvious from the thread, Biden's attraction for the center, and his open option to choose, oh, say, a Warren as VP, scare the rwing snowflake Trump lemmings to death.

#17 | Posted by Corky at 2019-06-13 12:48 PM | Reply

"I will cure Cancer, okay? I have the cure RIGHT here in my pocket. Here it is -- see? But I'm not gonna cure it until I say I can when Mexico says I can say it when I want." -- Trump 2020

#18 | Posted by IndianaJones at 2019-06-13 01:18 PM | Reply

Bye bye Bernie. It's about ------- time.

#19 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2019-06-13 01:35 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

#17

Biden/Warren 2020

#20 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2019-06-13 01:36 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

-- Trump 2020

#18

I support Trump/Prison 2021

#21 | Posted by donnerboy at 2019-06-13 03:38 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#21 I support Trump 20 to life.

#22 | Posted by IndianaJones at 2019-06-13 05:22 PM | Reply

WARREN/WANG 2020

#23 | Posted by 1947steamer at 2019-06-13 06:44 PM | Reply

"I will cure CANCER and Death ITSELF!"

If Trump said that you'd be praising how bold and witty it is.

#24 | Posted by sentinel at 2019-06-13 11:07 PM | Reply

"You sure Anonymous didn't steal the election? Thats how we roll now, cheering people to steal elections?"

Andrea, you aren't that stupid, are you. Obama won by a landslide, numbers too big for the Republicans to steal the election, all Anonymous claimed to have done was to prevent Republican hackers from altering the results of the election. Quite honestly, I don't know if their efforts were even necessary, Obama won legitimately, something no Republican since 2000 can say. Your party is the party of election cheating, own it.

#25 | Posted by danni at 2019-06-14 05:56 AM | Reply

"I will troll, lie, and just be an ass til the election is over and then continue to troll, lie and just be an ass."

Sheeple....the Russian bot.

#26 | Posted by danni at 2019-06-14 05:58 AM | Reply

Warren/MayorPete 2020

#27 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2019-06-14 01:15 PM | Reply

Considering that Warren and Bernie are largely the same candidate, i think it's an interesting exercise to consider what would happen if one of them dropped out of the race and endorsed the other. It's possible that person would become the Dem frontrunner.

#28 | Posted by JOE at 2019-06-14 01:27 PM | Reply

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