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Wednesday, June 12, 2019

"Abolition has become a rallying cry for the progressive wing of the justice reform movement," Jeremy Travis told me. "NO NEW JAILS. NO MORE MONEY FOR POLICE. ABOLISH ICE. ABOLISH PRISONS." Travis, who oversees criminal justice issues for the Arnold Ventures philanthropy, has spent a career in the system, most recently as president of the John Jay College of Criminal Justice in New York. (Disclosure: Laura and John Arnold, the founders of Arnold Ventures, are donors to the Marshall Project, my former employer.) "There is lots of energy behind this reframing of the ‘reform' agenda," Travis said

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Well .... seems reasonable..

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Prison abolition has decades of antecedents, led by once-fringe figures like Angela Davis

Notice the language here, "decades of antecedents" - as if prisons aren't Lindy.

"once-fringe" - as if someone proclaiming no prisons isn't fringe any more.

Propaganda ...

#1 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-06-12 10:25 AM | Reply

--once-fringe figures like Angela Davis

Communists are no longer fringe? Sounds about right, as the Left gets more extreme by the day.

#2 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-06-12 10:35 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Sure, why not? There WILL have to be some punishment, however. Instead of jails, we'll just cane, flog, maim, brand or execute offenders. Anarchy comes with a price.

#3 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2019-06-12 10:38 AM | Reply

"Communists are no longer fringe?"

Angela Davis left the Communist Party in 1991.

"Sounds about right"

You being wrong by 28 years? Yeah...about right.

#4 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-06-12 10:38 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

House arrest is less expensive, much easier to manage, and doesn't destroy families the way our current prison model does. Not sure how I feel extending this to murderers and rapists though. Certainly for non-violent offenders.

#5 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine at 2019-06-12 11:07 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

- House arrest is less expensive

If you own a house.

#6 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-06-12 11:16 AM | Reply

#5 | POSTED BY HAGBARD_CELINE

Is cost the only concern here?

Angela Davis left the Communist Party in 1991.

She still works with them ... so yeah still right...
www.latimes.com

doesn't destroy families the way our current prison model does.

What about the families that were destroyed? You know the victims?

Should we also send them a check since they can't work?

Certainly for non-violent offenders.

Why not property crimes? If people can commit property crimes and the worse that is going to happen is they have to stay home and collect a check ...

I can't imagine what the outcome would be....

Also drug distribution, again stay home, keep the business going ... collect a check from the government.

#7 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-06-12 11:53 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1


@#1 ... Propaganda ... ...

It is an opinion piece, clearly marked in the URL and at the top of the webpage.

The person is entitled to his opinion, no?

#8 | Posted by LampLighter at 2019-06-12 11:59 AM | Reply

I'm sure you morons will be all for "no prisons" once we start locking you traitors up.

#9 | Posted by IndianaJones at 2019-06-12 01:39 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

FTA: "Most of those who rally to the cause do not advocate a world where no one answers your 911 call and serial killers are set loose. Abolition is an ideal -- like, say, "repeal and replace." The real debate is what should replace the current institutions."

So the morons can stop beating their strawmen to pieces.

This is actually a fascinating argument. These people are advocating a revolution in regards to criminal justice.

Something that this country sorely needs.

Something I think most people can get behind except the badge polishers and those in the prison industrial complex.

The continued militarization of the police are isolating them from the communities they serve.

Police are vastly undertrained in dealing, effectively, with mental health problems and substance abuse.

Prisons are hellholes that once someone is in the system, their life is effectively over, there is no rehabilitation, only recidivism.

Overcrowded courts having to deal with too much crime results in injustice.

I think this is a great conversation starter.

#10 | Posted by truthhurts at 2019-06-12 11:52 PM | Reply

Fine, send them to me.

No, that's cruel and unusual.

Why can't we have actual penitentiaries?

#11 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2019-06-13 01:30 PM | Reply

Lets put shock collars on them, like we do dogs that won't behave. Technology has come a long way. We can locate, record the movements of and even get a voice and audio and video feed.

#12 | Posted by docnjo at 2019-06-13 05:59 PM | Reply

#12 | Posted by docnjo

Chinese technology can hack those, and it's pretty cheap.

No, send them to me. It's our only hope for a future.

#13 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2019-06-14 03:33 AM | Reply

Lets put shock collars on them, like we do dogs that won't behave. Technology has come a long way. We can locate, record the movements of and even get a voice and audio and video feed.

#12 | POSTED BY DOCNJO

Monitoring all of that sounds like it would be pretty pricey.

We could pay for it by cutting taxes on rich people.

#14 | Posted by MrSilenceDogood at 2019-06-14 05:32 AM | Reply

14 | Posted by MrSilenceDogood, Considering putting a convict in prison costs over 20 grand a year, in Texas,(and they do it much cheaper than most). We can do it cheaper with electronic surveillance. Some need to be segregated from society, but violent criminals are a minority of the prison population. Most are there for property crime and drug offenses.

#15 | Posted by docnjo at 2019-06-14 06:04 AM | Reply

20 grand a year

#15 | POSTED BY DOCNJO

And you want to hire a person to listen to each one of them?

Reckon they're going to work for 20k a year?

#16 | Posted by MrSilenceDogood at 2019-06-14 09:40 AM | Reply

#16 | Posted by MrSilenceDogood, You seriously underestimate the state of tech now.

#17 | Posted by docnjo at 2019-06-14 10:20 AM | Reply

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