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Tuesday, June 11, 2019

New York lawmakers introduced a state-wide bill to decriminalize sex work on Monday -- the first proposed legislation of its kind in the country.

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The embedded video isn't prostitution but I thought it was funny as hell.

Here is the link in case management goes censor-happy.

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#1 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2019-06-11 12:59 AM | Reply

It isn't prostitution if you film it.
There is no logic behind prostitution laws.

#2 | Posted by bored at 2019-06-11 04:26 AM | Reply

In countries where it's been legalized and regulated, AIDS and other STD transmission rates decreased dramatically. Like abortion, prostitution isn't going anywhere. Either make it safe or it stays in the shadows and more women's lives are at risk.

#3 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2019-06-11 04:34 AM | Reply

Great news for all you lib incels in the New York area. Now you just need to save up $100 - yeah I know - that means you can't afford the new Bubba Fet signed poster...but, it will be worth it.

#4 | Posted by iragoldberg at 2019-06-11 07:57 AM | Reply

Christ, you don't know anything about incels. They're into Manga, not Star Wars. That's too pedestrian for them.

#5 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine at 2019-06-11 08:02 AM | Reply

They're gonna make Melania's job legal.

#6 | Posted by IndianaJones at 2019-06-11 01:08 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

There is no logic behind prostitution laws.

#2 | Posted by bored

There is no logic because it is a religiously inspired law and has little to do with reality.

Now stop touching yourself.

Jesus is watching you!

#7 | Posted by donnerboy at 2019-06-11 01:52 PM | Reply


From the cited article:

...The Stop Violence in the Sex Trade Acts is a package of bills that seeks to amend state statues in order to decriminalize sex work between consenting adults while upholding existing anti-trafficking laws. ...

Salazar added that the state's current policies empower traffickers, "keeping sex work in the shadows."

Other sponsors on the bill are state Sen. Jessica Ramos (D), and Democratic Assembly members Richard Gottfried and Yuh-Line Niou.

"We will finally make strides against trafficking by empowering sex workers to report violence against them. Sex work is work and everyone has an inherent right to a safe workplace," Ramos said in the release. ...


I like this aspect of the bill, "...We will finally make strides against trafficking by empowering sex workers to report violence against them. ...". Not so sure about other parts of it, though.

#8 | Posted by LampLighter at 2019-06-11 02:01 PM | Reply

Now Daddy's little girl can aspire to be a hooker. Can you imagine the conversation at the dinner table that night?

Father: "No you wont!"

Daughter: "Daddy, I can rent my hoo-hoo if I want to! You're just jealous because I can make in 5 mins what you make in one hour!"

America is going to hell in a hand-basket.

#9 | Posted by KillerKarlKrupt at 2019-06-11 03:11 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I can rent my hoo-hoo

Is it "hoo-hoo" or "hoo-ha"?

I always thought it was a "hoo-ha"?

#10 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2019-06-11 03:25 PM | Reply

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Great news for all you lib incels in the New York area.

#4 | POSTED BY IRAGOLDBERG

Ha, incels are mainly right-wing. Liberals aren't the ones always whining about feminism ruining everything.

#11 | Posted by Derek_Wildstar at 2019-06-11 04:14 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Great news for all you lib incels in the New York area. Now you just need to save up $100 - yeah I know - that means you can't afford the new Bubba Fet signed poster...but, it will be worth it.

#4 | POSTED BY IRAGOLDBERG

Bad news, buddy. Incels are huge Trump supporters. They believe women are essentially property and don't deserve equal rights.

But I have a hunch you are an Incel yourself and know this.

#12 | Posted by Sycophant at 2019-06-11 05:05 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

They finally have to pay taxes on that 'under the table' work.

#13 | Posted by Petrous at 2019-06-11 05:30 PM | Reply

Maybe Sex will finally be decriminalized in America.

HA!

I kid.

Never gonna happen.

#14 | Posted by donnerboy at 2019-06-11 06:26 PM | Reply

#14 | POSTED BY DONNERBOY

It already is decriminalized.

You just have to make sure you're in Alabama and it wasn't consensual.

#15 | Posted by IndianaJones at 2019-06-11 07:09 PM | Reply

They finally have to pay taxes on that 'under the table' work.
#13 | POSTED BY PETROUS AT 2019-06-11 05:30 PM

Fiscal conservatives should have been keen to that long ago, perhaps it explains Tucker Carlson and Jeanine Perino's careers..

#16 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2019-06-11 08:47 PM | Reply

"Christ, you don't know anything about incels.
#5 | POSTED BY HAGBARD_CELINE "

Well, that is true - I only know what I see on here from the resident Incels like Snoofy, Joe, and JWP. I would toss Tremain into that bucket as well but I don't know if Incel refers only to human race sexual partners (even if he puts lipstick and eyelines on the goat).

#17 | Posted by iragoldberg at 2019-06-12 06:52 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

I have been in countries where prostitution is legal, and countries where it is not illegal but ignored. It is still a dirty business that exploits and victimizes women and increasingly young men. Are drugs used to control prostitutes in counties where the practice is legal? Are there also pimps that keep their girls under "control"? Is their a underground market for children hiding under the surface of legal prostitution? If a woman could trade sex for cash or credit card would be one thing, but that isn't what happens. Oh, for the edification of Tremain, they have prostitution in Islamic countries, they just call them "temporary wives".

#18 | Posted by docnjo at 2019-06-12 08:14 AM | Reply

A guy who posts here under multiple usernames, 24 hours a day, calling other people "incels." This place is a laugh a minute.

#19 | Posted by JOE at 2019-06-12 08:32 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#19 | Posted by JOE, Excuse my ignorance, but what is an incel?

#20 | Posted by docnjo at 2019-06-12 09:04 AM | Reply

A guy who posts here under multiple usernames, 24 hours a day

Iragoldberg/Tor/Spork are the most used. There are a few others less frequently used.

Excuse my ignorance, but what is an incel?

Look in the mirror, mate.

#21 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2019-06-12 09:38 AM | Reply

they have prostitution in Islamic countries, they just call them "temporary wives".

You are describing a "Mota Marriage" and it only happens in Iran.

Marriage automatically expires after the time written in the marriage contract. Usually anything from 3 days to one year.

If misused, it can be similar to prostitution. If used the way it was intended, it's a great practical solution to trying out a wife (or husband) before you make her (him) permanent.

Also good for people working alone in other countries who need someone to live with.

#22 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2019-06-12 09:44 AM | Reply

Surprised a dumb fraker like you heard of that.... LOL

But you only got it half right. As usual.

#23 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2019-06-12 09:45 AM | Reply

If used the way it was intended, it's a great practical solution to trying out a wife

BTW, it can go horribly wrong.

If I understand it correctly, it is after all a legal Islamic marriage contract (only used by Shia Iranians though)... which means in case of a child, you end up paying child support and a "haq-mehar" to the wife.

Keep this up and you'll end up homeless pretty fast. LOL

#24 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2019-06-12 09:52 AM | Reply

Lesson... do not complicate your life with these fancy legal tweaks to Islamic law... you'll end up hurting yourself.

Keep things simple.

Marry your girl. Like normal.

Eat cake.

I like cake.

#25 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2019-06-12 09:54 AM | Reply

#25 | Posted by J_Tremain You should read what the experts and Islamic scholars say about the practice. www.al-islam.org

#26 | Posted by docnjo at 2019-06-12 10:20 AM | Reply

You should read

I don't need to read your links, Rape-Victim.

I have already more than explained what a Mota Marriage is.

#27 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2019-06-12 10:23 AM | Reply

#25 | Posted by J_Tremain Sahih Bukhari 62:13 - "We used to participate in the holy battles led by Allah's Apostle and we had nothing (no wives) with us. So we said, "Shall we get ourselves castrated?" He forbade us that and then allowed us to marry women with a temporary contract (2) and recited to us: -- 'O you who believe ! Make not unlawful the good things which Allah has made lawful for you, but commit no transgression.' (5.87)"

#28 | Posted by docnjo at 2019-06-12 10:25 AM | Reply

LOL... I gave him the correct name for "temporary marriage"... which he uses to google... and then he has the cheek to tell ME to read what he thinks he found!

Hilarious.

Without me, he couldn't even have googled for it.

#29 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2019-06-12 10:25 AM | Reply

#28 | Posted by docnjo

And your point?

What is it you are trying to say???

#30 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2019-06-12 10:27 AM | Reply

#30 | Posted by J_Tremain, Argue with Mohammad.

#31 | Posted by docnjo at 2019-06-12 10:33 AM | Reply

Umm argue what???

#32 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2019-06-12 10:40 AM | Reply

What is it you think that you have found that is opposite to what I have posted, Rape Victim?

#33 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2019-06-12 10:42 AM | Reply

Yeah.. I thought so....

Crickets. Rape Victim ran away. LOL

#34 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2019-06-12 10:47 AM | Reply

YAWN....

en.wikipedia.org

Nikah mut'ah[1][2] (Arabic: نكاح المتعة‎, romanized: nikāḥ al-mutʿah, literally "pleasure marriage";[3](p1045) or Sigheh[4] (Persian: صیغه‎) is a private and verbal temporary marriage contract that is practiced in Twelver Shia Islam[dubious – discuss] in which the duration of the marriage and the mahr must be specified and agreed upon in advance.

Dumba---

#35 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2019-06-12 10:53 AM | Reply

The bride must not be married, she must be Muslim or belong to Ahl al-Kitab

As the women taken during the early wars were not Muslim, there could not have been a marriage of ANY kind.

Thanks for quoting from a Shia/Iranian website, btw... you are aware that was a Shia website you latched on to, don't you? LOL

As for Sunni practicing this shia kind of marriage, I ... as I posted earlier ... am not against it totally. As I said it can be useful in today's world. However, it will seriously complicate one's life.

And then there is this:

Hadith 1151 43: "the Messenger of Allah had forbidden temporary marriage, and the eating of the flesh of the domestic donkey on the day of Khaibar."

Even IF some Shia claim he allowed it, he sure as hell banned it later. It was creating too many problem.

OOPS.

Dumba-- thinks he can trip me up by randomly copy-pasting stuff he had no idea about 5 minutes ago. hahahahahahahahahahaha

#36 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2019-06-12 11:01 AM | Reply

#36 | Posted by J_Tremain So basically you are saying Mohammad's revelations were undependable? Seems he had to change a lot of his revelations, like when he wanted to marry his adopted son''s wife. He outlawed adoption in Islam. He also had to introduce the principal of abrogation to make the Koran make sense. Didn't work. But as you will have to admit, the early peaceful verses are abrogated by the more violent later verses. Would you like to discuss the Battle of the Trench?

#37 | Posted by docnjo at 2019-06-12 01:13 PM | Reply

First of all...

i.postimg.cc

AND

i.postimg.cc

As we can see, YOU have too many issues to have a proper discussion with.

Solve your issues first.

#38 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2019-06-12 02:25 PM | Reply

What do Docnjo's issues have to do with accuracy of his observations? Nothing. Go blow you Islamic smoke elsewhere ------.

#39 | Posted by moder8 at 2019-06-12 02:38 PM | Reply

What do Docnjo's issues have to do with accuracy of his observations?

Everything.

He is damaged.

I am rich. I got that way because I don't deal with damaged goods.

Go blow you Islamic smoke elsewhere

I would happily blow it up your bum... but you are constipated.

Like always.

------

Who???

#40 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2019-06-12 02:47 PM | Reply

I always thought it was a "hoo-ha"?
#10 | Posted by J_Tremain

Is that what the Pakistanis call their goats?

#41 | Posted by Sniper at 2019-06-12 04:52 PM | Reply

"I only know what I see on here from the resident Incels like Snoofy, Joe, and JWP. I would toss Tremain into that bucket as well but I don't know if Incel refers only to human race sexual partners (even if he puts lipstick and eyelines on the goat).
#17 | POSTED BY IRAGOLDBERG"

It's just gotta be hard, for certain people here to have to read that.

#42 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-06-12 08:37 PM | Reply

It's just gotta be hard, for certain people here to have to read that.

Not really. See below:

A guy who posts here under multiple usernames, 24 hours a day, calling other people "incels." This place is a laugh a minute.

#19 | Posted by JOE

#43 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2019-06-12 11:27 PM | Reply

Repeat:

A guy who posts here under multiple usernames, 24 hours a day

Iragoldberg/Tor/Spork are the most used. There are a few others less frequently used.

#44 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2019-06-12 11:28 PM | Reply

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