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Axios poll reveals 55% of women aged 18-54 prefer socialism Forty percent of Americans would rather live in a socialist country than a capitalist one, with a majority of younger women having this preference, according to a new poll.

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"That four in 10 respondents supported socialism suggests the US might be shaking off decades of stigma – in keeping with the rising prominence of avowedly democratic socialist politicians, such as Bernie Sanders and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez."

#1 | Posted by PunchyPossum at 2019-06-10 06:43 PM | Reply

No, really the Dems must swing to the right to get the votes really truly.

#2 | Posted by PunchyPossum at 2019-06-10 07:11 PM | Reply

Are they the same 4 out of 10 Americans who will have no retirement plan in Trumplandia?

If so I can see why then.

#3 | Posted by donnerboy at 2019-06-10 07:26 PM | Reply

So 60% of Americans actually know what Socialism entails?

FTA:

"Large numbers of respondents also agreed that socialism was linked to several unfavorable political characteristics. Fifty-seven percent agreed that "state-controlled media and communication" were among the things constituting socialism, and 49% agreed it was a "system dependent on dictatorship".

#4 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-06-10 07:33 PM | Reply

40% of Americans are idiots

#5 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2019-06-10 07:43 PM | Reply

That four in 10 respondents supported socialism suggests...

...That our government schools are failing. Most high school grads probably think Karl Marx was a funny man with a mustache.

#6 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-06-10 07:43 PM | Reply

IIRC, it's about 40% of ANY population that believes the grass is always greener on the other side.

#7 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2019-06-10 08:04 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#4 | Posted by Rightocenter

Judge: OVERRULED on the basis of obstinance

You know damned well by now that 'socialism' and 'democratic socialism' are two completely different systems, but you keep pretending as though you don't.

#8 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2019-06-10 08:49 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#8 AU,

The headline and the embedded article make no mention of Democratic Socialism.

Making matters worse, it seems like the respondents were uncertain as to what actually comprised a Socialist country.

#9 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-06-10 08:56 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#8

But that wasn't the question, was it.

If the question was "do you prefer compassionate capitalism" (the Scandinavian term for the system you admire), then probably 90% would have said yes.

#10 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-06-10 08:58 PM | Reply

Making matters worse, it seems like the respondents were uncertain as to what actually comprised a Socialist country.

#9 | Posted by JeffJ

Shows ya what an uninformed electorate we have, doesn't it?

Shameful in this day and age of easy access to information that so many stay willfully ignorant.

#11 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2019-06-10 09:12 PM | Reply

Shameful in this day and age of easy access to information that so many stay willfully ignorant.

*holds mirror for AU to look into*

#12 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-06-10 09:22 PM | Reply

#12 | Posted by Rightocenter

Laughable. Very few people are as informed with facts as I and many of my fellow democrats on this site are.

When do you possibly have time to learn anything new, as glued to this site day after day, hour after hour as you are? Keep shilling for impeachment while bashing those opposed to Trump and his actions. Do you realize how ridiculous that makes your assertions appear?

#13 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2019-06-10 09:30 PM | Reply

-- Very few people are as informed with facts as I and many of my fellow democrats on this site are.

roflmao

#14 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-06-10 09:41 PM | Reply | Funny: 3

#13

The stupid is strong in this one.

#15 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-06-10 09:44 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

So says two weirdos glued to Fox News.

One of whom, NULLIFIDIAN, was a big democrat for years and is now a brainwashed Trump supporter.

#16 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2019-06-10 10:03 PM | Reply

"Axios poll reveals 55% of women aged 18-54 prefer socialism"

That's because women care about childcare, healthcare and nursing home care--none of which unbridled capitalism gives a damn about except as a means to exploit "consumers".

#17 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-06-10 10:29 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#16

Never watch it...but it is always interesting that the DR Left seems to be glued to it.

#18 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-06-10 10:56 PM | Reply

That's because women care about being taken care of ...

#19 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-06-10 11:48 PM | Reply

40% of Americans are idiots

#5 | Posted by MUSTANG

I know the 30% that is Trump's base.

Who are the other 10% you're referring to?

#20 | Posted by jpw at 2019-06-10 11:49 PM | Reply

-- Very few people are as informed with facts as I and many of my fellow democrats on this site are.

roflmao

#14 | Posted by nullifidian

What's roflmao worthy is your constant claims of vast knowledge...yet all you post is drive by insults and sneers at Dems and your betters.

If you think we'd laugh with you instead of at you you were sadly mistaken.

#21 | Posted by jpw at 2019-06-10 11:52 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

yet all you post is drive by insults and sneers at Dems and your betters.

Pot meet kettle.

#22 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-06-10 11:55 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

Who are the other 10% you're referring to?

The DR Left.

#23 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-06-10 11:55 PM | Reply

Pot meet kettle.

#22 | Posted by Rightocenter

Hold on while I find you kleenex. Don't let your nose run on your PJs.

#24 | Posted by jpw at 2019-06-10 11:56 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Who are the other 10% you're referring to?

The DR Left.

#23 | Posted by Rightocenter

The DR left constitutes 10% of the electorate?

#25 | Posted by jpw at 2019-06-10 11:56 PM | Reply

The DR left constitutes 10% of the electorate?
#25 | POSTED BY JPW

The extreme 10%'s PoV.. why is this so difficult for you?

#26 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-06-11 01:17 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#14 | Posted by nullifidian

Your posts are little but opinions pulled out of your a--, Mr "I was a liberal until I had a breakdown and started worshiping Trump and Republicans, never criticizing them like I did for years."

#27 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2019-06-11 02:03 AM | Reply

...never criticizing them like you did for years as OzarkAggie too.

Say your safe word and I'll stop.

#28 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2019-06-11 04:36 AM | Reply

"Axios poll reveals 55% of women aged 18-54 prefer socialism"
That's because women care about childcare, healthcare and nursing home care--none of which unbridled capitalism gives a damn about except as a means to exploit "consumers".

#17 | POSTED BY GAL_TUESDAY AT 2019-06-10 10:29 PM | FLAG:

Don't forget exploiting labor as well.

The US is the ONLY G7 nation to not have paid maternity leave, sick leave, vacations, college and health care.

And for that the US is not even ranked in the top 15 to do business.

www.forbes.com

#29 | Posted by Nixon at 2019-06-11 11:55 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

--Your posts are little but opinions

Of course they're opinions, like yours, moron. Unlike you I don't confuse my opinions with eternal verities.

#30 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-06-11 12:54 PM | Reply

- none of which unbridled capitalism gives a damn about except as a means to exploit "consumers".

#17 | POSTED BY GAL_TUESDAY

Except for those moms selling LuLaRoe, Sensi oils, scented candles, and live-feeding "makeup tips" on FB.

About every six months, they all change to the new scam.

#31 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-06-11 01:09 PM | Reply

That means 40% of the population is too lazy to work and want to live off the toil of others.

#32 | Posted by Sniper at 2019-06-11 02:03 PM | Reply

That means I should expect 40% of the population to initiate efforts to relocate to Venezuela.

#33 | Posted by madbomber at 2019-06-11 03:53 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"You know damned well by now that 'socialism' and 'democratic socialism' are two completely different systems, but you keep pretending as though you don't."

So, I'll take a guess..."democratic socialism" is "socialism" supported wholly by capitalist activity, while "Socialism," the ------ up version, is the one that lacks a capitalist support mechanism.

Yassss???

#34 | Posted by madbomber at 2019-06-11 03:55 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Oh, please...we all know how these things go.

The real takeaway should be 40% of Americans prefer their fantasy of Socialism over Capitalism.

#35 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-06-11 03:57 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"Making matters worse, it seems like the respondents were uncertain as to what actually comprised a Socialist country."

Do you think the Russians may have elected against not executing the Bolsheviks to the last...had they been given a second chance?

Lenin executed more people in his first month in power than the Czars had in the 100 years preceding the socialist conquest of Russia.

#36 | Posted by madbomber at 2019-06-11 03:59 PM | Reply

The real takeaway should be 40% of Americans prefer their fantasy of Socialism over Capitalism.

#35 | POSTED BY DANFORTH

Well said.

#37 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-06-11 03:59 PM | Reply

#35

I wish I could give more than one NW for that post, most people today have no clue what socialism entails, but they gaze fondly at pictures of Bernie and AOC and think it must be great.

#38 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-06-11 05:22 PM | Reply

"The real takeaway should be 40% of Americans prefer their fantasy of Socialism over Capitalism."

I'm surprised it's that low.

"Since 1975, practically all the gains in household income have gone to the top 20% of households."

People who were born around then have lived through a system that leaves 80% behind.

Take it twenty years into the future, and if that trend wasn't enough, you've got your Millennials who turned 18 right around the time this became the truth:

"Since 1996, dividends and capital gains have grown faster than wages or any other category of after-tax income."

If half of those in the bottom tier are smart enough to figure out what's going on, it explains why 40% of Americans aren't enthused about Capitalism. Because it's not rewarding them, it's rewarding the rich.

Perhaps it's too much to hope for, but it seems like they've figured out that ours is not a system that's designed to reward them. It's a system that's designed to reward the rich.

It's good news that four in ten of Americans have figured it out. That's more than have college degrees, for example. That's kind of a sign of how obvious it must be.

Now, some would argue our economy is not explicitly designed to do that; but rather that's just an unintended consequence, exacerbated by politicians! What's happened "Since 1975" isn't because of capitalism, but rather the, end of WWII, abandoning the gold standard, technology, computers, immigration, civil rights, welfare, the Department of Education, the Environmental Protection Agency, it goes on forever. Every one of those are capitalist versions of die-hard Trostkyites who will tell you the USSR wasn't true Communism.

#39 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-06-11 05:37 PM | Reply

"The real takeaway should be 40% of Americans prefer their fantasy of Denmark over Capitalism."

#40 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-06-11 05:39 PM | Reply

Don't forget exploiting labor as well.

The US is the ONLY G7 nation to not have paid maternity leave, sick leave, vacations, college and health care.

And for that the US is not even ranked in the top 15 to do business.

Good points, thanks for making them.

#41 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-06-12 12:02 AM | Reply

Half our country doesn't pay taxes, about 20% are on food stamps. So, is it really surprising that the 40% of this country that has failed economically due to laziness, stupidity, and sometime even bad luck want more free stuff? The good news for them - if they really want Socialism, they can move to Venezuela or Cuba. They could try Norway or Denmark like the Left likes to crow about - but, these countries don't consider themselves socialist AND probably wouldn't allow them under their immigration systems.

#42 | Posted by iragoldberg at 2019-06-12 06:58 AM | Reply

"Half our country doesn't pay taxes"

Bald-face lie.

Why are you pretending income taxes are the only taxes? More than 2/3rds of workers pay more in PAYROLL taxes than they do income taxes. In addition, do you know the four main reasons WHY the number of folks not paying income taxes has risen? I'll even give you a hint : all four were Republican initiatives.

#43 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-06-12 07:59 AM | Reply

"Fifty-seven percent agreed that "state-controlled media and communication" were among the things constituting socialism, and 49% agreed it was a "system dependent on dictatorship"."

No, that just shows that 57% believe the propaganda they have been fed all their lives.

#44 | Posted by danni at 2019-06-12 10:04 AM | Reply

"The real takeaway should be 40% of Americans prefer their fantasy of Socialism over Capitalism."
I'm surprised it's that low.
"Since 1975, practically all the gains in household income have gone to the top 20% of households."

#39 | Posted by snoofy

There are people still around that know money doesn't grow on trees and someone has to work to produce things. The pilgrims found that out real quick and switched from socialism to private owned plots.

#45 | Posted by Sniper at 2019-06-12 10:28 AM | Reply

"There are people still around that know money doesn't grow on trees and someone has to work to produce things."

Not capitalists, they don't work for money. They use money to make money. That's why the big tax cuts didn't produce new factories, etc. It went to stock buy backs and dividends.

#46 | Posted by danni at 2019-06-12 10:40 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

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