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Many are angry and wondering why government officials have been unable to solve the homelessness crisis in Los Angeles.

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You have to treat the severely mentally ill, regardless of their consent. It's inhumane to allow them to suffer.

The addicts should be offered treatment and assistance, or jail. their choice. It's inhumane to enable their addiction.

The bums need to be run out of town. Society works when people work and contribute.

#1 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-06-09 12:21 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Anyone can be homeless.

Ask Iraq War veterans.

#2 | Posted by Zed at 2019-06-09 09:48 AM | Reply

Anyone can be mentally ill. Anyone can lose his farm in a drought. Anyone can be abused. Anyone can be homeless.

There but for the Grace of God go you.

#3 | Posted by Zed at 2019-06-09 09:51 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

Mental illness, homelesness, addiction---These should be counted among the effects of war. These veterans are casualties. No, they didn't have any idea of what they signed up for.

#4 | Posted by Zed at 2019-06-09 09:55 AM | Reply

Just a year ago Democrat Mayor Garcetti was talking about running for President. That's not going to happen, but given how crazy the Democrats are, this wouldn't hurt him at all.

#Party of Craphole Cities

#5 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-06-09 10:01 AM | Reply

Welcome to Garcetti's L.A.: heaps of trash, hordes of rats and very little leadership

www.latimes.com

#6 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-06-09 10:06 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#5 Yeah, if only big cities were run by Republicans their problems would be solved.

#7 | Posted by JOE at 2019-06-09 10:08 AM | Reply | Funny: 2

We all know how great things happen when Republicans take over our cities. We can look to Flint, Michigan for an example.

#8 | Posted by JOE at 2019-06-09 10:11 AM | Reply

Even the "liberal" LA Times says LA is a craphole. 'Nuff said.

#9 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-06-09 10:15 AM | Reply

#9 Who should run LA and what should they do?

Do you have an idea in your addled old brain, or do you just whine?

#10 | Posted by JOE at 2019-06-09 10:17 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The voters keep electing Democrats and expecting different results.

#11 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-06-09 10:21 AM | Reply

So that's a "no?" Got it.

#12 | Posted by JOE at 2019-06-09 10:27 AM | Reply

--Do you have an idea

Yeah. When you're in a ditch, stop digging.

#13 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-06-09 10:29 AM | Reply

Do you have an idea in your addled old brain, or do you just whine?

I pick Door #2.

#14 | Posted by REDIAL at 2019-06-09 10:30 AM | Reply | Funny: 3

#14 | Posted by REDIAL

What would you know about it? I've lived in California my entire life.

#15 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-06-09 10:35 AM | Reply

I've lived in California my entire life.

#15 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-06-09 10:35 AM | Reply

Come to Texas and savor the culture.

#16 | Posted by Zed at 2019-06-09 10:37 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

What a dump. in this thread.

Where did all that money go, Democrats?

#17 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-06-09 10:38 AM | Reply

Come to Texas and savor the culture.
#16 | POSTED BY ZED

The topic is L.A., the homeless crisis, and a missing $600K.

- not Jerry's Cowgirls.

#18 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-06-09 10:43 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

What would you know about it?

I know you whine incessantly.

#19 | Posted by REDIAL at 2019-06-09 10:52 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

If tens of thousands streaming across our boarder monthly is not a crisis [according to lefties] then there is no way this piddly situation is a crisis.

#20 | Posted by MSgt at 2019-06-09 10:57 AM | Reply

I pick Door #2.
#14 | POSTED BY REDIAL

Are Vancouver's "safe" injection sites solving the problem?

#21 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-06-09 11:04 AM | Reply

Didn't we recently have a thread about homelessness in California?

So. You want the government to solve the homeless problem? Can it increase taxes to do so? Is it allowed to, as the other thread suggested, round up all the homeless in order to sober them up, educated them? What of the mentally ill? What about the illiterate? What about homeless immigrants? Will you xenophobes allow them to participate in a education/jobs program? What jobs do you see the government providing these homeless? Would you feel comfortable hiring a guy who was a drug addict living in the streets? Take into consideration the difficulties convicts have finding employment.

So many questions to be answer.

#22 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-06-09 11:11 AM | Reply

Are Vancouver's "safe" injection sites solving the problem?

Best evidence from cohort and modeling studies suggests that Safe Injection Sites are associated with lower overdose mortality, 67% fewer ambulance calls for treating overdoses, and a decrease in HIV infections.

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

So, yes. Thanks for asking!

#23 | Posted by JOE at 2019-06-09 11:13 AM | Reply

Didn't we recently have a thread about homelessness in California?

Yes. Bozo and Mattress take turns posting one every day.

#24 | Posted by JOE at 2019-06-09 11:13 AM | Reply | Funny: 2

#23 | POSTED BY JOE

Opioid addiction is declining? No? check.

#24 | POSTED BY JOE

Joe is exhausted by the subject and has quit looking for solutions.

#defeated

#25 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-06-09 11:29 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

So many questions to be answer.
#22 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK

I thought the answers required $600K.

How much do more questions cost?

#26 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-06-09 11:30 AM | Reply

My old grandaddy was a WWI vet from Chicago. He said the reason he moved the family to L.A. was because if things went wrong, in L.A. you wouldn't freeze to death. Southern California is the Mecca of homeless. Perfect weather and you'll get fed. If you're a vet, the military has trained you to live in the elements.

#27 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2019-06-09 12:31 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Part of the problem is in thinking that California is a single entity. It is not. California is HUGE. Last I read, by itself it has the sixth biggest economy in the world. Geographically it is also larger than most of the nations in the world. It is also perhaps the single most diverse place on Earth. Trying to pigeon-hole California with generalizations just won't work.

#28 | Posted by moder8 at 2019-06-09 12:53 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

If tens of thousands streaming across our boarder monthly is not a crisis [according to lefties] then there is no way this piddly situation is a crisis.

#20 | POSTED BY MSGT AT 2019-06-09 10:57 AM | REPLY

It is the right wing presenting it as a crisis. The left just sees it as a big city problem

Come to Texas and savor the culture.

#16 | POSTED BY ZED AT 2019-06-09 10:37 AM | REPLY

It is nice how they have appropriated all the Mexican ways

#29 | Posted by hatter5183 at 2019-06-09 01:20 PM | Reply

Yes. Bozo and Mattress take turns posting one every day.
#24 | POSTED BY JOE

The title was changed, its about Everywhere in LA is SkidRow ...

Its not just about homelessness... seek to understand, then be understood.

#30 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-06-09 01:43 PM | Reply

Trying to pigeon-hole California with generalizations just won't work.

The generalization of Elysium works quite well...

#31 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-06-09 01:44 PM | Reply

- The title was changed

and diminished.

#32 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-06-09 01:53 PM | Reply

I thought the answers required $600K.

$600k will end all homelessness?

Who knew the solution was so simple and Sherp knew it the whole time.

#33 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-06-09 02:08 PM | Reply

"Come to Texas and savor the culture."

#16 | POSTED BY ZED AT 2019-06-09 10:37 AM | REPLY: Before I met my wife she lived in Round Rock and worked in Austin for about 13 years. Does Hippie Hollow ring a bell [she was a regular there]?

#34 | Posted by MSgt at 2019-06-09 02:13 PM | Reply

$600k will end all homelessness?
Who knew the solution was so simple and Sherp knew it the whole time.
#33 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK

Apparently $600K grows homelessness by 16%

Any other ideas?

#35 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-06-09 02:18 PM | Reply

"Apparently $600K grows homelessness by 16%"

Republican Math™ strikes again.

#36 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-06-09 04:04 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

"We need an approach that pairs stable housing with training, counselling and mental health services to help these Californians get in permanent housing."

Actually, what we need is housing first, but far too many people would rather complain about handouts than get rid of homelessness.

Any "solution" to homelessness which doesn't remediate the condition of homelessness by providing housing isn't really a solution to homelessness. It's an expensive, feel-good distraction.

#37 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-06-09 04:10 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Washington, DC's solution to homelessness. Let there be light!

thefederalist.com

#38 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-06-09 04:32 PM | Reply

What's the Nullifidian/Trump solution to homelessness?

#39 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-06-09 04:33 PM | Reply

The bums need to be run out of town. Society works when people work and contribute.

#1 | Posted by SheepleSchism

Out of town....into another town.

Do you clean your room by shoving everything under the bed dummy?

#40 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-06-09 04:53 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

What's the Nullifidian/Trump solution to homelessness?
#39 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

Close the open border!

What's yours?

#41 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-06-09 04:56 PM | Reply

"Close the open border!"

And how exactly does that solve homelessness?

And that also puts an end to all international trade, so it will create a problem about a thousand times greater than homelessness.

#42 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-06-09 05:17 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"You were made as well as we could make you."

#43 | Posted by LesWit at 2019-06-09 06:03 PM | Reply

Close the open border!

How does that help people who would rather do drugs than work?

How does that help the mentally ill?

How does that help people who aren't making enough to afford to make rent?

How much are illegal immigrants getting paid? Those wages don't pay the rent. They don't pay any bills. They might give you enough to eat. Until you get caught up by the futility of it all and realize illegal immigrants aren't stealing anything. They're filling jobs other people refuse to do.

Closing the border doesn't solve homelessness. It allows xenophobes a false sense of safety and superiority.

#44 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-06-09 07:14 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

I wonder if Andrea, a mattress was trying to make a funny...?

#45 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-06-09 07:17 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Why start now?

#46 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-06-09 07:22 PM | Reply

Actually, what we need is housing first, but far too many people would rather complain about handouts than get rid of homelessness.

Any "solution" to homelessness which doesn't remediate the condition of homelessness by providing housing isn't really a solution to homelessness. It's an expensive, feel-good distraction.

#37 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

I see. Who exactly is in charge in LA? San Diego? San Fran?

These are conservative strongholds, are they?

#47 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-06-09 07:49 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Sheeple, LA has spent $621M this year with little to show for it, you are $620,400,000 short.

#48 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-06-09 08:03 PM | Reply

Everyone deserves a home before having the "privilege" of making profits.

AOC: Everybody Should Live in a Place Like My Luxury Apartment Building, or Something

pjmedia.com

#49 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-06-09 08:37 PM | Reply

""What are we doing to make sure housing is being legislated as a human right?" Ocasio-Cortez asked during a town hall in the Bronx, New York. "It means our access and our ability and our guarantee to having a home comes before someone else's privilege to earn a profit."

#50 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-06-09 08:39 PM | Reply

"AOC: Everybody Should Live in a Place Like My Luxury Apartment Building, or Something"

Leave it to The Dumbest Man on the Internet to erect a strawman, and the second dumbest to worship at that altar.

#51 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-06-09 08:55 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Many are angry and wondering why government officials have been unable to solve the homelessness crisis"

Many are too stupid to understand the complexity of the overall problem.

#52 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-06-09 08:57 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Opioid addiction is declining? No? check.

Classic. Claim that something isn't working, then when presented with irrefutable evidence that it is meeting its stated goals, create some new bar that never existed so you can claim victory, which you predictably did immediately thereafter.

Sad!

#53 | Posted by JOE at 2019-06-09 11:58 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

The conservative trolls in this thread have yet to say what they want to do to stop homelessness.

I'm all ears. Who should run LA and what, specifically, should they do?

#54 | Posted by JOE at 2019-06-10 12:02 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Sad!
#53 | POSTED BY JOE

What's sad, Joe, is enablers like yourself.

I hope your dream of a city awash in heroin addicts 'safely' injecting on every corner never comes true.

For the good of the country, and for the good of humanity.

#55 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-06-10 12:38 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

#55

What a bunch of nonsense dude.

For a guy pushing 60, you sure are an idiot.

Huffing resin?

#56 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-06-10 12:44 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

There's plenty of state-owned property to house the homeless. UC Berkeley and SF State for the Bay Area and UCLA and Cal State Los Angeles for Los Angeles. The virtuous SJWs that run those places would surely welcome the chance to help and be culturally enriched by the downtrodden.

#57 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-06-10 12:45 AM | Reply

I hope your dream of a city awash in heroin addicts 'safely' injecting on every corner never comes true.

Wait, are you an advocate for the War on Drugs?

#58 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-06-10 12:47 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

- the War on Drugs

What a joke. The only war is for control of the profits.

I don't support anything that takes over peoples lives and destroys them.

I'd rather help them out of that cycle of self-destruction. Find me an addict that says, "Yeah, I enjoy this life".

#59 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-06-10 12:54 AM | Reply

There's plenty of state-owned property to house the homeless.

There's plenty of churches, temples and mosques too.

You know. Those houses of God. Don't they claim to shelter and tend to the poor and needy.

But sure. Universities, some of the best in the nation, should be used as homeless shelters.

Why stop there? What about high schools middle schools and elementary schools? Might as well use those too.

Cause fffk liberals!

#60 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-06-10 12:56 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

are you an advocate for the War on Drugs?
#58 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK

Are you an advocate of death and addiction?

#61 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-06-10 12:56 AM | Reply

In one year, drug overdoses killed more Americans than the entire Vietnam War did

Don't they claim to shelter and tend to the poor and needy.

They could but the government won't allow it ...

What about high schools middle schools and elementary schools? Might as well use those too.

I say Fire Departments.... showers, kitchens, dorms ...

#62 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-06-10 12:59 AM | Reply

You know. Those houses of God. Don't they claim to shelter and tend to the poor and needy.
But sure. Universities, some of the best in the nation, should be used as homeless shelters.
Why stop there? What about high schools middle schools and elementary schools? Might as well use those too.
Cause fffk liberals!
POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK AT 2019-06-10 12:56 AM | REPLY

Matthew 25:35-45

#63 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2019-06-10 01:01 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I think they should all go up to Bel Air and Brentwood and pitch their tents on every green lawn they can find.

#64 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-06-10 01:01 AM | Reply

I'd rather help them out of that cycle of self-destruction.

Why aren't you? Are you working with any homeless outreach programs? Sponsoring anyone?

Find me an addict that says, "Yeah, I enjoy this life".
#59 | POSTED BY SHERP

Depends what stage of their addiction you're approaching them.

Either way, it's better for addicts to go get a clean hit and know there's a way out for them should they ever want it.

#65 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-06-10 01:03 AM | Reply

California owns a lot of beachfront property. Maybe put some tent cities in Malibu, close to Barbra Streisand's home.

#66 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-06-10 01:03 AM | Reply

The problem here is most of the DR left don't have a definition of homeless, most of the People in LA, San Fran., Seattle are not homeless. They are choosing to live in tents on the sidewalk and city byways cause the addicted life style is what they are after and the city and state officials are to scared to boot them out, send them packing.

#67 | Posted by Crassus at 2019-06-10 01:06 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

I think they should all go up to Bel Air and Brentwood and pitch their tents on every green lawn they can find.
#64 | POSTED BY SHERP

Why? When you could go down to the beach and sleep on the sand. The weather is perfect for it right now. The nights are nice. The days are nice. Life is easy. Sun is shining. Lots of people watching.

Where do you live again?

#68 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-06-10 01:08 AM | Reply

Are you an advocate of death and addiction?
#61 | POSTED BY A, MATTRESS

Yep. Isn't freedom great?

In one year, drug overdoses killed more Americans than the entire Vietnam War did
#61 | POSTED BY A, MATTRESS

Then, clearly, whatever we're currently doing is working. By all means, double all efforts!

#69 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-06-10 01:13 AM | Reply

I'd rather help them out of that cycle of self-destruction. Find me an addict that says, "Yeah, I enjoy this life".

#59 | Posted by SheepleSchism

Under the PPACA, aka "Obamacare," alcohol and drug treatment is covered. Republicans have been doing their level best to destroy it.

Write your Republican representatives today.

We spend more money to house drug offenders than it costs for rehab. Instead of getting some people straight and provide some job training, we're releasing inmates who are more hardened and with more baggage to carry the rest of their lives. Not very compassionate as a society, is it?

#70 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2019-06-10 02:00 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2


@#67 ... most of the People in LA, San Fran., Seattle are not homeless. They are choosing to live in tents on the sidewalk and city byways ...

For the most part, I'd agree with that. Not completely, though.


... the addicted life style is what they are after ...

Here's where I disagree with you.

You are ascribing intent where you have not shown that you know enough to ascribe such intent.

So, imo, that blows your entire argument out of the water.


#71 | Posted by LampLighter at 2019-06-10 02:03 AM | Reply

Are you an advocate of death and addiction?
#61 | POSTED BY A, MATTRESS
Yep. Isn't freedom great?

^

This is what I am talking about when I say Thanks, Second Amendment.
If we didn't have so much freedom with guns we wouldn't have so much gun violence.
Thus, the gun violence needs to be celebrated as a hallmark of how vast our freedom extends.
Because more freedom is always good, at least when it comes to guns, according to gun lovers.

#72 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-06-10 04:36 AM | Reply

This is the thread where they blame socialism whilst completely ignoring the fact that this is happening in the richest state of a capitalist country.

BTW, 80% of humanity lives on less than $10.00 a day.

Thanks capitalism.

#73 | Posted by MrSilenceDogood at 2019-06-10 05:11 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#72 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

This isn't a gun thread, but feel free to start one.

Any accounting for the $600M yet? How many homeless were housed?

#74 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-06-10 07:09 AM | Reply

So far the only conservatives "ideas" to end homelessness in this thread are "close the border" and "put them in university housing."

And you people wonder why nobody takes you seriously.

#75 | Posted by JOE at 2019-06-10 08:21 AM | Reply

JOE,

you are misinformed, must watch CNN or MSNBC. we don't want to "close the border", we want Immigration, but Legal Immigration.

#76 | Posted by Maverick at 2019-06-10 09:32 AM | Reply

#76 I'm talking about this thread, in which one person literally wrote "close the open border."

Reading: It's fundamental.

#77 | Posted by JOE at 2019-06-10 10:03 AM | Reply

I'm all ears. Who should run LA and what, specifically, should they do?

#54 | Posted by JOE

LA should become a less desirable place to live, like texas or kansas.

If they really wanted to fix homelessness, those horrible libs wouldn't live in such nice places.

#78 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-06-10 10:50 AM | Reply

The problem here is most of the DR left don't have a definition of homeless, most of the People in LA, San Fran., Seattle are not homeless. They are choosing to live in tents on the sidewalk and city byways cause the addicted life style is what they are after and the city and state officials are to scared to boot them out, send them packing.

#67 | Posted by Crassus

So your solution is to kick them out...into red states like arizona? or the ocean?

#79 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-06-10 10:51 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

you are misinformed, must watch CNN or MSNBC. we don't want to "close the border", we want Immigration, but Legal Immigration.

#76 | Posted by Maverick

No you dont or your party would want to prosecute the white businessmen who are luring them here with illegal jobs.

You just want the businessmen to get away with it, then to use racism against their workers to help you win the votes of ignorant racists.

#80 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-06-10 10:52 AM | Reply

I'd rather help them out of that cycle of self-destruction. Find me an addict that says, "Yeah, I enjoy this life".

#59 | Posted by SheepleSchism

Find me a member of your trump party that wants to spend a dime to help the homeless.

#81 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-06-10 10:53 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

-- prosecute the white businessmen who are luring them here

You obviously don't live in southern california. We have thousands of hispanic, english-fluent contractors who hire, transport and supervise crews of non-english-speaking illegals.

#82 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-06-10 11:20 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Find me an addict that says, "Yeah, I enjoy this life".

#59 | Posted by SheepleSchism

For what's it's worth, I deal with hardcore addicts on a daily basis. (In fact, in 3 minutes I'm going to be working with a whole new group of them arrested over the weekend.) A relatively small percentage of them are actually ready and/or willing to receive treatment. It is really true for most of them that until they, as individuals, hit rock bottom they will not invest themselves in to getting cleaned up.

#83 | Posted by moder8 at 2019-06-10 11:29 AM | Reply

You obviously don't live in southern california. We have thousands of hispanic, english-fluent contractors who hire, transport and supervise crews of non-english-speaking illegals.

#82 | Posted by nullifidian

Actually I do. And those contractors work for white businessmen who know they are hiring illegals but use those contractors anyway.

Good job on trying to find other brown people to blame though. It just CANT be a white person's fault.

#84 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-06-10 12:10 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Haha, awesome! Liberals try so, so hard to sound intelligent and fail so miserably at pointing fingers sometimes. So now it's the church's fault that Liberal politicians mishandle money. That's freaking hilarious. And secondly,

"Actually I do. And those contractors work for white businessmen who know they are hiring illegals but use those contractors anyway.

Good job on trying to find other brown people to blame though. It just CANT be a white person's fault."

Um, the people hiring illegals aren't working for white people. They are working their own business to make money. Sure, some probably do but most don't in that geo-area. They are small businesses looking to get an edge. Now, the reason they need the edge could be caused by white people if you want to be racist and political, but the people actually hiring illegals run their own farms, janitorial services, etc. And many of them are owned by non-white people and make a lot of profit from it.

Good job on trying to blame white people for every problem though. It just CAN'T be anyone else's fault.

#85 | Posted by humtake at 2019-06-10 12:20 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

And those contractors work for white businessmen who know they are hiring illegals but use those contractors anyway.

Thats not what is happening, the "contractors" are hired by an agency, which pays them, and the agency is hired by the developer. Its not the developers job to verify immigration status.

The "agency" is typically run by a Hispanic speaker, someone that can "aquire" the labor needed. I saw this with when I had my roof done, not one White person involved. The general rule of thumb is if it requires credentials, its probably a citizen.

But the fact is it shouldn't be anyone's responsibility accept the governments.

It just CANT be a white person's fault.
#84 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY

You are the one blaming colors.

If you really felt corporations and "white" business men are the issue, why not have eVerify be mandatory?

But you don't, why? Why is it a corporations or businesses responsibility to "Verify" legal documents the perspective employee gives the corporation?
How much should it spend to Verify? How will it verify? Should they charge the respective employee? Perhaps as a FEE? to be returned if verified as a citizen?

#86 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-06-10 12:23 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Perhaps as a FEE? to be returned if verified as a citizen? "

Great idea, lets add a fee as another barrier to entry for employment for homeless persons.

You truly are a model citizen in an Ayn Rand world, mackris.

#87 | Posted by IndianaJones at 2019-06-10 12:37 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Thats not what is happening, the "contractors" are hired by an agency, which pays them, and the agency is hired by the developer. Its not the developers job to verify immigration status.

Do you think it's an accident the deal is structured that way?

#88 | Posted by JOE at 2019-06-10 12:58 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Um, the people hiring illegals aren't working for white people.

#85 | Posted by humtake

Tell me, what color was trump's skin before he painted it orange?

He hired contractors that hired illegals to work at his resorts.

That's how white businessmen commit crimes, they hire a middleman to do it for them so they can pretend to be innocent.

#89 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-06-10 02:21 PM | Reply

"That's how white businessmen commit crimes, they hire a middleman to do it for them so they can pretend to be innocent."

They're not the only ones pretending they are innocent.
You've got all the politicians and judges along the way.

This is how conservatives imagine government operating more efficiently when they say "run government like a business."" They want to bring the petty corruption and de facto bribery which grease the wheels of business into the government sphere.

#90 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-06-10 02:23 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

This shouldn't be a white/black/brown issue nor should it be a Democrat/Republican issue, it should be an everyone issue. These are rough numbers but sum up the problems:

Studies show that 1/3 of homeless are deep in the throes of drug abuse or mental illness, they should be treated.

The same studies show that another third have been priced out of the rental market, they should be helped with low income housing.

The final third are chronically unemployed/employable because of prison, injuries or lack of education, they should be trained and given opportunities.

All of these things are politically difficult and cost lots of money, but the time to point fingers is over.

Get. It. Done.

#91 | Posted by leftcoastlawyer at 2019-06-10 02:31 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"That's how white businessmen commit crimes, they hire a middleman to do it for them so they can pretend to be innocent."

Yep.

Exhibit A: Perkins Coie

#92 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-06-10 02:32 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

"All of these things are politically difficult and cost lots of money, but the time to point fingers is over."

You just described, literally, three handouts.
Wanna guess why that's a non-starter?

#93 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-06-10 02:33 PM | Reply

You just described, literally, three handouts.
Wanna guess why that's a non-starter?

The money is there, LA just spent $600 million to house 20,000 people and SF is trying to raise money as well.

People need to make this a priority and streamline the process to get these people the help they need.

#94 | Posted by leftcoastlawyer at 2019-06-10 02:53 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I dunno. Seems like this problem requires more than simply throwing money at the problem.

"streamline the process to get these people the help they need."

Not being streamlined is pretty much the defining feature of our Byzantine health care "system."
The system is so complicated that normal people with jobs and homes get the benefit of health care navigators.
Homeless are going to need help navigating health care, housing, employment, education.
And then there's a whole swath of charities that have mushroomed up providing what's essentially palliative care with no eye towards a cure, just maintenance through food handouts.

#95 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-06-10 03:04 PM | Reply

I have white skin. I hire illegals all the time. So arrest me. Or not. But please don't make the argument that it is not white people hiring illegal immigrants.

#96 | Posted by moder8 at 2019-06-10 03:09 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#96 If we actually stop wipepo from hiring illegals, how will we scare rednecks into voting against their own self-interests?

#97 | Posted by IndianaJones at 2019-06-10 03:22 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

This shouldn't be a white/black/brown issue nor should it be a Democrat/Republican issue, it should be an everyone issue. These are rough numbers but sum up the problems:

It's not.

It is a rich man/poor man issue. The Dems could not get it done this time because of wealthy real estate and land owners didn't want it done. Most of them are Liberal Democrats in California.

#98 | Posted by donnerboy at 2019-06-10 06:36 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Anyone can be mentally ill. Anyone can lose his farm in a drought. Anyone can be abused. Anyone can be homeless.

There but for the Grace of God go you.

#3 | Posted by Zed

B.S.

No faith without works. Anyone can plan ahead. Plan for problems. Is it possible for anyone to be homess? Yes. But is it possible for people to put in measures to ensure they will never be homeless? Yes.

Prior Preparation Prevents Poor Performance.

If you sit around and do no planning, only work minimum wage jobs and act like bad times wont come, you get what you deserve.

#99 | Posted by boaz at 2019-06-10 08:33 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

"Prior Preparation Prevents Poor Performance."

Great slogan, but unrealistic. There are a thousand things which could beset you that you wouldn't be ready for, regardless the preparation.

#100 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-06-10 08:41 PM | Reply

If you sit around and do no planning, only work minimum wage jobs and act like bad times wont come, you get what you deserve.

#99 | Posted by boaz

Why are you talking about coal miners that way?

#101 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-06-10 09:16 PM | Reply

LA like ScamFriendSicko says Not In My Front Yard.

#102 | Posted by LesWit at 2019-06-11 02:18 AM | Reply

Wait, are you an advocate for the War on Drugs?
#58 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-06-10 12:47 AM

I am absolutely an advocate for The War on Drugs.
Give them a listen some time.
www.youtube.com

#103 | Posted by Avigdore at 2019-06-11 08:30 AM | Reply

#99

You were in combat but learned little.

#104 | Posted by Zed at 2019-06-11 08:53 AM | Reply

#103 Finally something we can agree on.

#105 | Posted by JOE at 2019-06-11 09:27 AM | Reply

Somebody show me a major metropolitan area that has solved homelessness. Republican-led or otherwise.

#106 | Posted by cbob at 2019-06-11 09:55 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

12 hours later, still no takers? I thought for sure there would be a long list of Republican cities that had eliminated homelessness.

#107 | Posted by cbob at 2019-06-11 09:38 PM | Reply

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