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Tuesday, June 04, 2019

It cannot be emphasized too often: Russiagate -- allegations that the American president has been compromised by the Kremlin, which may even have helped to put him in the White House -- is the worst and (considering the lack of actual evidence) most fraudulent political scandal in American history.

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We are left, then, with this paradox, formulated in a tweet on May 24 by the British journalist John O'Sullivan: "Spygate is the first American scandal in which the government wants the facts published transparently but the media want to cover them up."

#1 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-06-04 01:14 PM | Reply

Is it worse than birthergate?

Trump is getting what he deserves.

Karma is vengeful.

#2 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-06-04 01:25 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

The IG report could be interesting.

It might be a dud.

Actually, I hope it's a dud. The alternative is bad for the country.

#3 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-06-04 01:34 PM | Reply

"May 24 by the British journalist John O'Sullivan"

HARHAR

The National Pee-Yeew

#4 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2019-06-04 01:38 PM | Reply

An article by Russia's Official Apologist (other than MoneyViking)

"Perspectives like that have attracted the ire of a wide array of critics. Writing in The New Republic, Isaac Chotiner called Cohen "Putin's American apologist." Jonathan Chait in New York magazine labeled him a "dupe" and "a septuagenarian, old-school leftist who has carried on the mental habits of decades of anti-anti-communism seamlessly into a new career of anti-anti-Putinism."

Cathy Young in Slate said Cohen was "repeating Russian misinformation" and "recycling this propaganda." And there are many others who share those views, even at the magazine his wife runs."

www.chronicle.com

Dossier Not What ‘Started All of This'

"We started the investigations without the dossier. We were proceeding with the investigations before we ever received that information," McCabe told CNN. "Was the dossier material important to the [FISA] package? Of course, it was. As was every fact included in that package. Was it the majority of what was in the package? Absolutely not."

www.factcheck.org

#5 | Posted by Corky at 2019-06-04 01:41 PM | Reply

STS - never saw that coming.

#6 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-06-04 01:48 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#6

The source is highly questionable even in his own circles... and the idea that presenting the article as unbiased is a more genuine action, well, it's not.

#7 | Posted by Corky at 2019-06-04 01:51 PM | Reply

allegations that the American president has been compromised by the Kremlin, which may even have helped to put him in the White House -- is the worst and (considering the lack of actual evidence) most fraudulent political scandal in American history.

If this is the summary I'm betting the actual link isn't worth the click.

Are you joining the DR Liars club or something?

#8 | Posted by jpw at 2019-06-04 01:52 PM | Reply

#5 | POSTED BY CORKY

Dispatching ATF Agent-Fireman Corky means the story is not only a three-alarm fire, but potentially explosive.

#9 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-06-04 02:15 PM | Reply

Man, just look at all those hooks, ladders, and hoses.

Spray it down, Corky!

#10 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-06-04 02:16 PM | Reply

I created this thread because I found it interesting that a lefty would have this take.

#11 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-06-04 02:41 PM | Reply

#5

LOL, Stephen F. Cohen has been regarded as one of the pre-eminent Russia Scholars for over 40 years, and has consulted with Presidents from Carter to Obama. In fact, Obama sought his counsel on the "reset" and Cohen was a darling of the Left in 2010 when he, among others, praised the "reset":

When President Obama made "resetting" relations with Moscow a foreign-policy priority, he seemed to understand that a chance for a necessary partnership with post-Soviet Russia had been lost and might still be retrieved. The meaning of "reset" was, of course, what used to be called détente. And since détente had always meant replacing cold war conflicts with cooperation, the president's initiative also suggested an understanding that he had inherited something akin to a new cold war.

Many commentators, like the Russia specialist Thomas E. Graham of Kissinger Associates and Peter Baker of the New York Times, believe that Obama's reset, a term also adopted by the Kremlin, has been "remarkably successful" and already achieved a "new partnership." Discourse between Washington and Moscow is more conciliatory. Both Obama and President Medvedev, who have met frequently, have declared the revamped relationship a success, citing their personal friendship as evidence. There are also tangible signs. Moscow is cooperating on two top US priorities: the war in Afghanistan and curbing Iran's nuclear-weapons aspirations. In addition, in 2010, a treaty, New START, was negotiated that is designed to reduce US and Russian long-range nuclear arsenals by almost a third.

Of course, when a formerly beloved source turns on your Narrative...slaughter away.

#12 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-06-04 02:58 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"I created this thread because I found it interesting, bla, bla, bla"

Stephen F. Cohen?

Is this the same Stephen F. Cohen being called ‘Putin's American Apologist'
He is a regular on Tucker Carlson, apparently

#13 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2019-06-04 03:01 PM | Reply

Do you mean this Stephen F. Cohen?

"Trump Has Challenged Foreign Policy Orthodoxy By Admitting America Has Made Mistakes, Wronged Russia"

#14 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2019-06-04 03:02 PM | Reply

"Cathy Young in Slate said Cohen was "repeating Russian misinformation" and "recycling this propaganda." And there are many others who share those views, even at the magazine his wife runs."

'Dossier Not What ‘Started All of This'

Repeated for the dull of wit.... which is apparently where Shemp and RoCheney meet.

So, the article is highly questionable both substantively and regarding it's biased source... given that's source's recent Putin loving history, not the distant past and given that his opinions don't fit the facts.

#15 | Posted by Corky at 2019-06-04 03:37 PM | Reply

#15

Translation: Slaughter the Source is all I got!!!

#16 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-06-04 03:43 PM | Reply

It all started when Obama roasted that fat pervert at the White House Correspondents' Dinner. Trump was so furious that he flew to Russia and paid hookers to piss on him while he cried in a bed the Obama's had stayed in.

The Putin blackmailed his dumb ass and we got Russiagate.

#17 | Posted by IndianaJones at 2019-06-04 05:11 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

This just in. Trump murdered little girls and bathed in their blood to get his orange stain.

But dont slaughter the source.

#18 | Posted by bored at 2019-06-05 01:42 AM | Reply

#16

You'd think a supposed lawyer, even just a real estate paper-pusher, would have had to admit the existence
of the substantive argument in the factcheck link in #5.

But, nooooo.... not RoCaligula.

#19 | Posted by Corky at 2019-06-05 03:34 PM | Reply

--RoCaligula.

lol. The cheaper the partisan, the gaudier the patter.

#20 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-06-05 03:49 PM | Reply

It all started when Obama roasted that fat pervert at the White House Correspondents' Dinner. Trump was so furious that he flew to Russia and paid hookers to piss on him while he cried in a bed the Obama's had stayed in.
The Putin blackmailed his dumb ass and we got Russiagate.
#17 | Posted by IndianaJones

WOW, you have a huge hip pocket to pull that one out.

#21 | Posted by Sniper at 2019-06-05 04:23 PM | Reply

LOL, "the substantive argument in the factcheck link in #5."

You mean the statement from Andrew McCabe, who the DOJ Inspector referred to prosecutors for criminal charges for misleading and lying to investigators:

"The Justice Department inspector general referred his finding that former FBI deputy director Andrew McCabe repeatedly misled investigators to Washington's top federal prosecutor, who will determine whether McCabe should be charged with a crime, according to people familiar with the matter."

Yeah, he's about a credible as Don or Don Jr.

#22 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-06-05 04:59 PM | Reply

The funniest thing about that supposed "factcheck" is that with Steele doing a 180 and agreeing today to talk to the FBI about his Dossier, that whole House of Cards may come tumbling down.

#23 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-06-05 05:01 PM | Reply

No, dimmy, I mean the oft verified statement by McCabe that the Dossier was not the predicate for the investigation.

I 'member when lawyers could read AND comprehend what they read.

#24 | Posted by Corky at 2019-06-05 05:48 PM | Reply

"Hosers to the base of the flames!"

#25 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-06-05 05:58 PM | Reply

Yeah, he's about a credible as Don or Don Jr.

#22 | Posted by Rightocenter

A STS and false equivalency in one post!

Putting in overtime these days, are we?

#26 | Posted by jpw at 2019-06-06 08:44 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

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