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Tuesday, May 28, 2019

On Feb. 22, while being processed for release from DHS custody, a 24-year-old Honduran woman went into premature labor and delivered a stillborn baby at the Port Isabel Detention Center (PIDC). The woman, whose name and identifying details are being withheld in order to protect her privacy, reported being six months pregnant at the time of her apprehension by the U.S. Border Patrol (USBP), shortly before midnight on February 18 near Hidalgo, Texas. While in USBP custody, she was taken to the hospital and cleared for release on Feb. 21 after receiving two medical screenings. In the late afternoon on Feb. 22, she was transferred to ICE custody to be processed for release. That same evening, while being processed for release by ICE, she began complaining of abdominal discomfort and was examined by the ICE Health Service Corps (IHSC). The clinical director was called and ordered that she be sent to the hospital. EMS was called. At that time, she conveyed that the baby was coming. She went into premature labor, at 27 weeks pregnant, and delivered an unresponsive male infant. IHSC initiated CPR and EMS transported them both to the Valley Baptist Medical Center in Harlingen, Texas, where the infant was later pronounced dead. The woman remains in ICE custody awaiting medical clearance, after which she will be released from custody. Although for investigative and reporting purposes, a stillbirth is not considered an in-custody death, ICE and CBP officials are proactively disclosing the details of this tragic event to be transparent with Congress, the media and the public. ICE's policy on the identification and monitoring of pregnant detainees can be found here and frequently asked questions here.

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What is the Democrat complaint? That the baby wasn't born alive so the mother had the choice of a having a post-birth abortion? A 27 year old pre-mature baby would cost the tax payers a minimum of $1.5M in hospital fees. This woman should be immediately deported and put on a permanent ban list. She clearly came to the US with the intent of dropping an anchor baby and putting taxpayers on the hook for hundred of thousands of dollars. We cannot afford this when we have a homeless crisis in every major liberal city in the US. We need to take care of our own first. The amount that the US taxpayers saved by having this pre-mature baby not survive is enough to fund healthcare under Obamacare ($440/month unsubsidized) for 284 years. Don't cry about lack of medical care for US citizens when you want to give that money away to someone that had no right to be in this country. Multiple that by the millions of cases of medical services provided to illegals and you can start to grasp the size of the problem.

#1 | Posted by iragoldberg at 2019-05-28 10:40 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Goldberg, Goldberg, Goldberg.

That's one hell of a judgement call on another group of human beings. Especially you being a Jew, if you really are a Jew? Or are you a Jew pretending to be a white man? Let me rephrase that. If you really are a Jew, you wouldn't be allowed to hang with most of the groups of white Americans who agree with your opinion.

You're a Jew wanna be white power. You're no stroke of genius, Goldberg. You're just a stroke.

What a joke! A racist Jew wanna be white man who is hated by white racists for being a Jewey Jew. SHM

And you people wonder why I think white American males are the virus of the world?

#2 | Posted by MisterCarajo at 2019-05-29 02:19 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"A 27 year old pre-mature baby would cost the tax payers a minimum of $1.5M in hospital fees."

That is utter bull s**t. You pull facts from your ass and thing the rest of us will believe them. Liar, liar, pants on fire!

#3 | Posted by danni at 2019-05-29 06:56 AM | Reply

"if you really are a Jew?"

He's Alt-Right. Being a Jew in a blog is what passes for humor among some.

#4 | Posted by Zed at 2019-05-29 08:47 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I don't see the reason for the post, unless you're trying to pick a fight with a pro-lifer.

#5 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2019-05-29 08:51 AM | Reply

Who pays for her medical examination, the whole medical process that occurred, and the subsequent care?

#6 | Posted by Petrous at 2019-05-29 08:55 AM | Reply

Isn't that the same procedure that a poor citizen would get, if not better?
What is the solution? Open borders?
While the US certainly bears some responsibility for it's interventions in Central America no country can recieve a large number of refugees w/o using refugee camps.
I don't know if the practice is still in place but NOLA used to set up tent jails every Mardis Gras.
The only broken part of our immigration system is employer sanctions for hiring illegals.
Does anyone really believe the coyotes don't instruct their victims on what to say to trigger an asylum hearing? That the immigration system isn't being gamed?
Asylum for domestic or gang violence is not a legitimate reason, there are thousands of are own citizens who face the same.
The sad fact is remittances are significant sources of income for home countries & illegal immigration acts as a safety valve that keeps corrupt & predatory governments in charge.
The asylum process is for political refugees, not economic migrants.
The world is a large cruel place & where it's the cruelist it is up to the suffering to through of the yoke of oppression.

#7 | Posted by kingcuke at 2019-05-29 08:57 AM | Reply

ICE still refuses to accept responsibility for deaths and mishandling under their "care".

Border Patrol, ICE, DHS.. there isn't an oubliette big enough.

#8 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2019-05-29 10:30 AM | Reply

So what!

Law Enforcement shooting African Americans men in the back is not even considered a crime.

#9 | Posted by fresno500 at 2019-05-29 10:56 AM | Reply

""A 27 year old pre-mature baby would cost the tax payers a minimum of $1.5M in hospital fees."
That is utter bull s**t. You pull facts from your ass and thing the rest of us will believe them. Liar, liar, pants on fire!
#3 | POSTED BY DANNI"

Next time, try Google before calling someone out for making up facts.

................

Twins at 26 weeks and 4 days in 2011, total cost = $2M

Cost (and survival rates) have gone up a lot since then.

archive.jsonline.com

#10 | Posted by iragoldberg at 2019-05-29 11:05 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"And you people wonder why I think white American males are the virus of the world?
#2 | POSTED BY MISTERCARAJO"

No one is wondering - they know you are a racist. No better than those wearing KKK sheets and hoods.

#11 | Posted by iragoldberg at 2019-05-29 11:06 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

A 27 year old pre-mature baby would cost the tax payers a minimum of $1.5M in hospital fees.

I've mever heard of a "27 year old premature baby," though it's possible you fit into that category.

I am curious what amount of money you think is worth spending to keep an unborn migrant child alive. $1? $10?

#12 | Posted by JOE at 2019-05-29 11:25 AM | Reply

"I am curious what amount of money you think is worth spending to keep an unborn migrant child alive. $1? $10?
#12 | POSTED BY JOE"

If it happened in Honduras, US taxpayers would be expected to spend $0. I see no reason why it should be any different if someone comes here illegally.

#13 | Posted by iragoldberg at 2019-05-29 11:27 AM | Reply

So $0 then? At least you're consistent in your cruelty. Congratulations.

#14 | Posted by JOE at 2019-05-29 11:30 AM | Reply

"So $0 then? At least you're consistent in your cruelty. Congratulations.
#14 | POSTED BY JOE"

How much money did you send to Honduras last year to help pre-mature babies? $0? Heartless bastard.

#15 | Posted by iragoldberg at 2019-05-29 11:33 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I'm not running an agency that detains them when they get here. Try harder with your tu quoque fallacy next time, sheeple.

#16 | Posted by JOE at 2019-05-29 11:33 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"I'm not running an agency that detains them when they get here.
#16 | POSTED BY JOE"

I didn't encourage her to break the law so we would get detained - you did exactly that. But again, according to liberals, this was not a baby - heck, you are pushing for post-birth abortions - so, again, why is this sad for you?

#17 | Posted by iragoldberg at 2019-05-29 11:36 AM | Reply

"I'm not running an agency that detains them when they get here.
#16 | POSTED BY JOE"

I didn't encourage her to break the law so we would get detained - you did exactly that. But again, according to liberals, this was not a baby - heck, you are pushing for post-birth abortions - so, again, why is this sad for you?

#18 | Posted by iragoldberg at 2019-05-29 11:36 AM | Reply

I didn't encourage her to break the law so we would get detained - you did exactly that.

No i didn't, liar.

so, again, why is this sad for you?

I never said i was sad. I asked how much a migrant baby's life is worth to you. You responded $0. Thanks for your honesty.

#19 | Posted by JOE at 2019-05-29 11:42 AM | Reply

"No i didn't, liar."

Yeah, you did. If you are for open borders and against a wall and interior enforcement, you are encouraging illegals to come.

"I never said i was sad.
#19 | POSTED BY JOE"

Great, so you are consistent as well - just a dead fetus. So, worth $0 to you...unless Planned Parenthood can part it out.

#20 | Posted by iragoldberg at 2019-05-29 11:46 AM | Reply

If you are for open borders

I never said i was for open borders, liar. Produce one post where i ever even suggested that, otherwise stop lying, liar.

so you are consistent as well - just a dead fetus.

Never said that either. Is the strawman your only refuge?

#21 | Posted by JOE at 2019-05-29 11:51 AM | Reply

"I never said i was for open borders, liar. Produce one post where i ever even suggested that, otherwise stop lying, liar."

Are you for building a wall and deporting illegals currently in the US?

#22 | Posted by iragoldberg at 2019-05-29 11:54 AM | Reply

The wall is a poor use of funds in terms of actually stopping illegal immigration; it's a vanity project for a racist president, so i oppose the wall, as should you.

I am for deporting illegals in the US, provided they were not brought here as children and provided that exceptions are made for situations where, say, a premature Honduran baby dies because of a lack of medical care for its detained mother.

But bumper sticker morons like you just want to scream "OPEN BORDERS" at anyone who doesn't follow your cult leader's simpleton philosophy.

#23 | Posted by JOE at 2019-05-29 12:00 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"I am for deporting illegals in the US, provided they were not brought here as children"

Why does that matter? Illegal is illegal. You are just encouraging more people exactly like the woman in the story - so my initial statement about you encouraging them was 100% correct.

#24 | Posted by iragoldberg at 2019-05-29 12:04 PM | Reply

Crimes require intent. I don't give a ---- about your absolutes and I haven't encouraged anything.

#25 | Posted by JOE at 2019-05-29 12:11 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Wait so a stillborn death caused by border fascists is perfectly okay but a miscarriage means the woman is a murderer?

This has to be nearing the apex of republican cognitive dissonance.

#26 | Posted by IndianaJones at 2019-05-29 12:14 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Crimes require intent. I don't give a ---- about your absolutes and I haven't encouraged anything.
#25 | POSTED BY JOE "

So if the parents rob a bank but give the money to their kids, the kids should be able to keep it because they had no intent to steal it? Please explain your logic.

#27 | Posted by iragoldberg at 2019-05-29 12:14 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

I don't give a ---- about your absolutes and I haven't encouraged anything.
#25 | POSTED BY JOE

Regardless of your colorful metaphors, implicitly your policy does encourage the behavoir... having rules that allow families to stay if they bring child encourages more crossings with children.

But bumper sticker morons like you just want to scream "OPEN BORDERS" at anyone who doesn't follow your cult leader's simpleton philosophy.
#23 | POSTED BY JOE

What philosophy is that?

#28 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-05-29 12:17 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Wait so a stillborn death caused by border fascists

Where does it say that?

#29 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-05-29 12:18 PM | Reply

if the parents rob a bank but give the money to their kids, the kids should be able to keep it because they had no intent to steal it?

A more apt analogy would be, "if a parent robs a bank with a child in tow, has the child done something "illegal" and worthy of punishment?"

Or perhaps you could dispense with analogies altogether and say "if a parent drags their child to another country, should the unwitting child be deported to another place simply because his/her parents chose to commit a crime?"

#30 | Posted by JOE at 2019-05-29 12:30 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#29 | POSTED BY ANDREAMACKRIS

Are you ------- kidding me? You can't even be bothered to read the headline?

#31 | Posted by IndianaJones at 2019-05-29 12:38 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Nice to see we have a claims-to-be-Jewish troll. Welcome!
More to the point:
If the Trump Administration's position is that a fetus is a live person with Constitutional rights, then they must also state publicly that a person was killed in their custody, and criminal investigation should begin immediately.

#32 | Posted by e1g1 at 2019-05-29 12:44 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"A more apt analogy would be, "if a parent robs a bank with a child in tow, has the child done something "illegal" and worthy of punishment?"
#30 | POSTED BY JOE"

In your analogy, the child derives no benefit from the crime of their parents. In the case of an illegal crossing they do. So the question is if they should be allowed to keep the benefit derived from the crime. Simple logic here, you should know better.

#33 | Posted by iragoldberg at 2019-05-29 12:47 PM | Reply

"If the Trump Administration's position is that a fetus is a live person with Constitutional rights, then they must also state publicly that a person was killed in their custody, and criminal investigation should begin immediately.
#32 | POSTED BY E1G1"

If a fetus is a person, they we simply have a case of a person dying trying to illegally cross into the US. Happens every day.

#34 | Posted by iragoldberg at 2019-05-29 12:48 PM | Reply

"#32 | POSTED BY E1G1"

Also, why is it that the fetus of a Hispanic, non-US citizen is more important to you than the fetus of a black, US citizen?

#35 | Posted by iragoldberg at 2019-05-29 12:49 PM | Reply

so my initial statement about you encouraging them was 100% correct.
#24 | POSTED BY IRAGOLDBERG

You're an idiot.

#36 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2019-05-29 12:56 PM | Reply

Also, why is it that the fetus of a Hispanic, non-US citizen is more important to you than the fetus of a black, US citizen?
#35 | POSTED BY IRAGOLDBERG

He was pointing out an inconsistency, not adhering to a side. You're insistence in shoving words in his mouth speaks volumes.

#37 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2019-05-29 12:59 PM | Reply

If the Trump Administration's position is that a fetus is a live person with Constitutional rights, then they must also state publicly that a person was killed in their custody, and criminal investigation should begin immediately.

#32 | POSTED BY E1G1

There it is.

Set.
Point.
Game.
Match.

#38 | Posted by MrSilenceDogood at 2019-05-29 01:01 PM | Reply

Set.
Point.
Game.
Match.

#38 | POSTED BY MRSILENCEDOGOOD

If you are using tennis vernacular the progression would be:

Point
Game
Set
Match

No biggie regardless. I was suggesting a correction for accuracy, not to bludgeon you over something trivial.

#39 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-05-29 01:18 PM | Reply

#32 I agree. Whoever forced that pregnant woman to hike 2000 miles, placing herself and her unborn zygote under undue physical stress from heat, fatigue and dehydration should be hunted down immediately.

#40 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2019-05-29 01:26 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I disagree with abortion. We should take all babies and rear them for the new Hitler Youth. And take Herr Trumph's DNA, impregnate zygotes from women and rear them for New Hitler Youth who will conquer the world for

white power.

Seig heil!

#452020

#41 | Posted by KillerKarlKrupt at 2019-05-30 02:10 AM | Reply

You don't want your baby? Tired of unwanted children or step-children? You can now legally put them up for adoption at BABIES FOR TRUMP. We care for the future of our white power children. We raise them up legally at our New Hitler Youth ranch in Brazil. Google for directions.

Seig Heil!

White power.

Become a baby factory for Herr Trumph.

Say no to white baby abortion.

#42 | Posted by KillerKarlKrupt at 2019-05-30 02:26 AM | Reply

What is the Democrat complaint? That the baby wasn't born alive so the mother had the choice of a having a post-birth abortion? A 27 year old pre-mature baby would cost the tax payers a minimum of $1.5M in hospital fees. This woman should be immediately deported and put on a permanent ban list. She clearly came to the US with the intent of dropping an anchor baby and putting taxpayers on the hook for hundred of thousands of dollars.

#1 | Posted by iragoldberg

Just in case nobody has said this yet, f--- you you piece of s---.

#43 | Posted by jpw at 2019-05-30 03:43 AM | Reply

Who pays for her medical examination, the whole medical process that occurred, and the subsequent care?

#6 | Posted by Petrous

Let me guess, you're "pro-life"?

#44 | Posted by jpw at 2019-05-30 03:44 AM | Reply

ICE still refuses to accept responsibility for deaths and mishandling under their "care".

Border Patrol, ICE, DHS.. there isn't an oubliette big enough.

#8 | Posted by redlightrobot

Most of which (that I've read) aren't a fault of ICE.

Kids with infections brought to ICE facilities or hospitals when already symptomatic or infants born prematurely to mothers who just underwent a crossing while six months pregnant are hardly on them.

Unless you can demonstrate an intentional lack or reduction of care these aren't the fault of ICE and are the type of partisan thread spinning that is destroying our country.

#45 | Posted by jpw at 2019-05-30 03:48 AM | Reply

If it happened in Honduras, US taxpayers would be expected to spend $0. I see no reason why it should be any different if someone comes here illegally.

#13 | Posted by iragoldberg

Ahhh American pro-lifers...

I always knew you were a POS but after reading this...

I hope you get ass cancer only to spontaneously combust for the final X seconds of your life that it takes for you to feel the death of every single nerve ending in your body only to live the x+y seconds required for a nurses aid to drown you with your own bedpan contents in an attempt to put out the fire.

Seriously, were you in Dayton this past weekend?

#46 | Posted by jpw at 2019-05-30 03:55 AM | Reply

No one is wondering - they know you are a racist. No better than those wearing KKK sheets and hoods.

#11 | Posted by iragoldberg

Says the guy who's just fine with infants dying so long as they're brown.

Are you a boomer?

#47 | Posted by jpw at 2019-05-30 03:58 AM | Reply

How much money did you send to Honduras last year to help pre-mature babies? $0? Heartless bastard.

#15 | Posted by iragoldberg

How much whataboutism have you spread on this site?

Don't ever whine about civil conversation again you worthless sack of s--=.

#48 | Posted by jpw at 2019-05-30 03:59 AM | Reply

I didn't encourage her to break the law so we would get detained - you did exactly that. But again, according to liberals, this was not a baby - heck, you are pushing for post-birth abortions - so, again, why is this sad for you?

#17 | Posted by iragoldberg

Your overlords, corporations, encouraged her to come here.

As for "post-birth abortions" you're too ---- stupid to realize the contradiction in the nonsense you're regurgitating.

Was the bold section a Freudian slip?

Great, so you are consistent as well - just a dead fetus. So, worth $0 to you...unless Planned Parenthood can part it out.

#20 | Posted by iragoldberg

More easily debunked right wing lies.

I must apologize and take it all back, -----------. You're not stupid. You're simply a subhuman POS. F--- you. In the strongest meaning possible, f--- you.

Don't ever claim to be for civil debate while espousing the view that medical care should be based on citizen status, even for a child.

Seriously, words can't express how much loathing and disgust I feel right now thinking you exist. Even if you're just a pathetic troll that's too low a standard to sink to to deserve any manner of respect.

#49 | Posted by jpw at 2019-05-30 04:13 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Regardless of your colorful metaphors, implicitly your policy does encourage the behavoir... having rules that allow families to stay if they bring child encourages more crossings with children.

What about policies that make it easier to hire illegal that encourages their migration to begin with?

Yet again, you're on the wrong side of the debate.

#50 | Posted by jpw at 2019-05-30 04:16 AM | Reply

Trump's base attains wood or becomes wet at the news of dead brown-skinned children.

#51 | Posted by getoffmedz at 2019-05-30 11:27 AM | Reply

#1 - Is a Russian posing as a disruptive Israeli.

#52 | Posted by getoffmedz at 2019-05-30 11:35 AM | Reply

How much money did you send to Honduras last year to help pre-mature babies? $0? Heartless bastard.

#15 | POSTED BY an idiot

We gave Honduras 🇭🇳 $5 billion dollars in 2017.

The heartless bastard in the White House would give them nothing, if he could.

So that he could have more immigrants rushing our borders creating more chaos so he can have his "crisis".

So he can build a wall.

That would do nothing to help keep this from happening.

#53 | Posted by donnerboy at 2019-05-30 11:57 AM | Reply

Well, there's another death Liberals are responsible for. It's too bad they won't accept responsibility for their actions. Not everything is unicorns and rainbows in the real world, huh?

#54 | Posted by humtake at 2019-05-30 12:05 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

In this video, we watch abortion Cameroon style.

I am obligated to tell you that watching this video may ruin your day and emotional balance. That's if you are pro-life. Pro choice voters do not care. They may invite their friends over for champagne and caviar to watch it.

You have been warned.

#55 | Posted by KillerKarlKrupt at 2019-05-30 12:40 PM | Reply

"White power."

Dude's posts read like Tiny Elvis with a meth habit.

#56 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine at 2019-05-30 01:05 PM | Reply

#56 | POSTED BY HAGBARD_CELINE

it's MISTERCARAJO's new persona...instead of an angry latino he's put his tranny self out there as KKK

#57 | Posted by 1947steamer at 2019-05-30 01:20 PM | Reply

"She went into premature labor, at 27 weeks pregnant, and delivered an unresponsive male infant."

In consevative parlance, she murdered her own child.

#MAGA

#58 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-05-30 01:22 PM | Reply

You have been warned.

#55 | POSTED BY KILLERKARLKRUPT

Wow. That is some kinky stuff bro.

One wonders how many you viewed until you found the perfect one.

Sounds like you are into it.

To each his own.

Grow up.

Pro choice IS pro life.

Before and after.

#59 | Posted by donnerboy at 2019-05-30 04:52 PM | Reply

"if you really are a Jew?"

I assume it's a troll name like most of the other con posters. Say you're something then use it as a shield for bigotry.

#60 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2019-05-30 08:34 PM | Reply

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