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Tuesday, May 28, 2019

As House Democrats consider impeaching President Donald Trump, some have looked to the 1998 impeachment of President Bill Clinton for guidance. In truth, however, there are few similarities between the two cases. First and foremost, Clinton was a popular president while Trump is not.

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While the drumbeat gets louder, Pelosi gets deafer.

#1 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-05-28 01:35 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Realistically they'd have to convince the public and the Senate.

It's a pretty tall order.

#2 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-05-28 01:54 PM | Reply

#2

Not insurmountable, especially if they Dems present a good case.

Clearly, they either don't think they enough evidence (they do) or have someone who can present a compelling case in their caucus (that may indeed be the case) but the window in which they can present any case is rapidly closing, especially with their hoped for theater of Mueller testifying publicly now apparently not happening.

#3 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-05-28 02:00 PM | Reply

"Clearly, they either don't think they enough evidence (they do)..."

For impeachment in the House, or conviction in the Senate?

#4 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-05-28 02:43 PM | Reply

#4

Both, if they do it right.

Read the article Dannie, you might learn something, or at the very least be less terrified.

#5 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-05-28 03:04 PM | Reply

The GOP failed to present a case against Clinton?

Perjury is the easiest to prove. Obstruction was the other one.

The only reason for no conviction was the Democrat held Senate.

The Republicans would only convict Trump if it means, 1) Pence can run in 2020 and win and, 2) Trump doesnt run in 2020 after impeachment.

Trump isnt barred from running in 2020, even if removed from office. That's scary by itself. What's worse, trumpkin will vote for him, even if removed.

Dems are scared of that ridiculous scenario: an impeached and convicted Trump winning 2020. Republicans are scared of that too. He beat the R clown car and now the Dems have the clown car.

#6 | Posted by Petrous at 2019-05-28 04:49 PM | Reply

The GOP failed to present a case against Clinton?

Sufficient for the Senate to convict? Yes. They only took four days (compared to months of hearings in Watergate), hardly enough time for public sentiment and with it, Senate votes, to shift.

As for everything else in your post, I think those are all plausible scenarios if the Dems don't do this correctly.

#7 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-05-28 05:24 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Opinion: Democrats Need to Get Past Impeachment Jitters"

Agreed.

#8 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2019-05-28 07:52 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Mueller drew up obstruction indictment against Trump, Michael Wolff book says
www.theguardian.com

What more do the Dems need? For Mueller to vocalize the above to their faces?

#9 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2019-05-28 07:53 PM | Reply

Dems are scared of that ridiculous scenario: an impeached and convicted Trump winning 2020. Republicans are scared of that too.

If that happens, we might as well tear everything up and just try again. A fresh new start for each state on its own.

#10 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2019-05-28 07:55 PM | Reply

Trump isnt barred from running in 2020, even if removed from office.

I believe Impeachment bars the person from ever holding public office again.

#11 | Posted by truthhurts at 2019-05-28 08:12 PM | Reply

#9

Representatives of Mueller's office today said that is false, those documents "do not exist."

Fire and Fury' author claims Mueller drafted three-count indictment charging Trump with obstruction and witness tampering – but special counsel's office says supposed internal documents 'do not exist'

#12 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-05-28 09:38 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

That being said, Mueller gave the Dems a roadmap to impeach Trump, they just need to grow a pair and do it.

#13 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-05-28 09:40 PM | Reply

The question on the table is can Trump run for reelection in 2020 even if he was impeached? The short answer is MAYBE. Here's the long answer...

I wish people would do just a little research before the post a definitive "fact" online. In this day and age of technology and people are still voluntarily ignorant. SMH

#14 | Posted by MisterCarajo at 2019-05-29 12:45 AM | Reply

The Dems should not try to impeach Trump until it is too late to make it to the Senate.
There is no point in letting the partisan GOP find Trump innocent.

Pelosi's strategy of investigating Trump but not letting the Senate find Trump innocent is smart.

#15 | Posted by bored at 2019-05-29 12:56 AM | Reply

#9 | POSTED BY RSTYBEACH11 A

unrepentant lying should be banned ... remember that?

Its hilarious..

That being said, Mueller gave the Dems a roadmap to impeach Trump, they just need to grow a pair and do it.
#13 | POSTED BY RIGHTOCENTER

He did but its full of pot-holes and dead ends ...

#16 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-05-29 12:59 AM | Reply

#15

i.e., political theatre of the absurd

#17 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-05-29 01:01 AM | Reply

No that is the entire Trump presidency.

#18 | Posted by bored at 2019-05-29 01:15 AM | Reply

I think the opportune time for impeachment has passed. I want transparency, so keep up the investigations. But holy sheeet, National dems are so limp-wristed.

On to beating Trump:
Democrats should focus on pulling America (and their party) up by the bootstrings. Remember when "pull yourself up by your bootstrings" was the GOP mantra? LOL, the GOPers are all racist and haters of the working class; and they took your effing bootstrings. And I digress....

#19 | Posted by horstngraben at 2019-05-29 01:38 AM | Reply

Mitch ---------- has already ruled Fat Nixon innocent if it were to come up to the Senate.

#20 | Posted by Nixon at 2019-05-29 07:04 AM | Reply

Democrats are a divided house, half Corporate shills focused on collecting campaign dollars and new blood determined to return power to the people. Democrats need to wake up and promote a winning agenda, something like Warren is doing, but with enough coherence of voice to be a credible force. Whining about Russia endlessly is a waste of time.

#21 | Posted by bayviking at 2019-05-29 07:22 AM | Reply

If the goal is to remove Trump from office, the most reliable means might be via investigation after investigation after investigation, rather than an impeachment trial that lasts a couple months and is likely to end in a big "thud" that Trump can then use to his advantage.

#22 | Posted by JOE at 2019-05-29 07:59 AM | Reply

Trump isnt barred from running in 2020, even if removed from office.
I believe Impeachment bars the person from ever holding public office again.

#11 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS

I had to research it. Appears the Senate has only TWICE convicted AND denied the person from holding office.
Alcee Hastings was impeached, removed, but not denied from holding office.

This is where I get Trump being able to win after being removed. Hastings got elected after being removed.
If we are so stupid to elect impeached and removed people.....

History shows the Senate imposed disqualification twice, on Judges Humphreys and Archbald.

So, if the Republicans in the Senate agree to remove, they also hold the authority to bar Trump from holding office - but aren't required.

#23 | Posted by Petrous at 2019-05-29 08:39 AM | Reply

Fairy tales can come true. Ask any Democrat with TDS.

#24 | Posted by willsburrow at 2019-05-29 09:57 AM | Reply

It's only Pelosi, she is holding back a steed chomping at the bit.

#25 | Posted by fresno500 at 2019-05-29 08:12 PM | Reply

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