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Monday, May 27, 2019

5,570 deaths 10,640 injuries 233 children shot 1,045 teenagers shot 145 mass shootings 697 armed home invasions 552 defensive use incidents 578 unintentional shootings *not including suicides

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The past 72 hours of U.S. gun violence:
-109 gun deaths
-258 gun injuries
-259 total incidents with death and/or injury

This is the deadliest 72-hour span of American gun violence this year – and deadliest since 2017.

#1 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2019-05-27 03:00 PM | Reply

Trump promised to end the carnage. WTF Trumpist Stooges! He promised only he could fix it.

#2 | Posted by oldwhiskeysour at 2019-05-27 03:35 PM | Reply

A vast majority of these cases were gang related and committed by people too young to even own a gun - which is usually a handgun and not the evil AR-15. So, given murder is already illegal and the guns were not lawfully attained, what additional law will have stopped the crime outside the complete banning of all firearms?

#3 | Posted by iragoldberg at 2019-05-28 01:51 AM | Reply | Funny: 2 | Newsworthy 1

#3 | Posted by iragoldberg If you have kids, you don't need to have a pistol in the house. A pump shot gun is much more effective for home defense. Just the sound of someone cambering a shell will get a miscreant to run. Shot guns generally don't punch through walls.
#1 | Posted by lee_the_agent If you look at the numbers, most of those gun deaths were suicides. A large majority of the balance were gang related. Actual numbers of gun violence have been going down for the last 20 years.

#4 | Posted by docnjo at 2019-05-28 04:54 AM | Reply | Funny: 2

A majority of those deaths are from MAGAts killing their husbands/bothers cheating on them with their girlfriend/mother. See it all the time on Jerry Springer and Hee Haw.

#5 | Posted by MisterCarajo at 2019-05-28 07:40 AM | Reply

Some basic truths the gun lovers miss.

1) Most burglaries happen in broad daylight. The FBI says 65% of home burglaries happen between 10am and 3pm WHEN THE HOMES ARE UNOCCUPIED
2) There were 3.75 Million home burglaries in 2018.
3) 1 million home burglaries took place while the home was occupied
4) In 75% of those burglaries the burglar was undetected until after the fact

Gun ownership as home defense is a myth. Unless you have the gun loaded and in your hand when the burglar appears it is worthless. burglars target empty buildings. They want to get in get out and leave as quickly as possible. A ring doorbell system with a few motion detectors is much more effective than a gun. Burglars are happy to take your guns while you are not home.

#6 | Posted by hatter5183 at 2019-05-28 10:39 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#4

*not including suicides

Reading is fundamental.

#7 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2019-05-28 10:45 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Wow, all these "guns" just hopped up and started killing people.

Or were there someone behind the trigger?

#8 | Posted by boaz at 2019-05-28 11:11 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Wow, all these "guns" just hopped up and started killing people.
Or were there someone behind the trigger?

#8 | POSTED BY BOAZ AT 2019-05-28 11:11 AM | REPLY

So tell us how many people shot someone without a gun?

guns don't shoot people, PEOPLE WITH GUNS shoot people.

All of these people are "good guys with a gun" up until the moment they pull the trigger.

#9 | Posted by hatter5183 at 2019-05-28 11:13 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#9 | Posted by hatter5183 vpc.org The mere appearance of a firearm dissuades the miscreant, or it has three times in my experience. Go ahead and beat the dead horse, there are more guns in this country than people. The right to hold deadly force is in our Constitution, and no, according to the Federalist and even Anti-Federalist voices debating it, none wanted to remove that right from private citizens. A militia at that time was any male able to muster. You might remember the last people that tried to disarm Americans were the British in the 18th century, we killed them.

#10 | Posted by docnjo at 2019-05-28 11:35 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

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Wow, all these "guns" just hopped up and started killing people.
Or were there someone behind the trigger?

#8 | POSTED BY BOAZ

Anybody need more proof that Boaz is mentally deficient? Me neither.

#11 | Posted by CrisisStills at 2019-05-28 12:16 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

A pump shot gun is much more effective for home defense. Just the sound of someone cambering a shell will get a miscreant to run. Shot guns generally don't punch through walls.

Your sentiment is correct, but some clarification is in order.

1. ANY shotgun is an effective home defense weapon, and tends to do significantly more damage than a handgun. Whether or not it is a BETTER choice is debatable and largely dependent on the person using it.
2. The "racking the slide scares intruders away" meme persists, but there is little evidence it is true. Personally, I believe it eliminates the element of surprise.
3. Penetration is dependent on velocity and shot size. Buckshot goes right through walls, as do slugs.

#12 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2019-05-28 01:07 PM | Reply

Wow, all these "guns" just hopped up and started killing people.
Or were there someone behind the trigger?

#8 | POSTED BY BOAZ

Ok so we dont need to limit guns we just need to limit humans access to them. Any suggestions on how to do that?

#13 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-05-28 01:23 PM | Reply

we just need to limit crazy humans access to them.

There, fixed that for you.

#14 | Posted by boaz at 2019-05-28 02:58 PM | Reply

#12 | Posted by MUSTANG You obviously know nothing about shot guns. Stay unarmed please. 00 or a magnum goose load will somewhat, but most loads bought are 6 and 7 shot. The penetration is about half that of a 22 pistol.

#15 | Posted by docnjo at 2019-05-28 04:01 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

we just need to limit crazy humans access to them.

There, fixed that for you.

#14 | Posted by boaz

No, Humpy Trumpy REALLY fixed that for all of us.

Feb. 28, 2017
President Donald Trump quietly signed a bill into law Tuesday rolling back an Obama-era regulation that made it harder for people with mental illnesses to purchase a gun.

The rule, which was finalized in December, added people receiving Social Security checks for mental illnesses and people deemed unfit to handle their own financial affairs to the national background check database.

Had the rule fully taken effect, the Obama administration predicted it would have added about 75,000 names to that database.

President Barack Obama recommended the now-nullified regulation in a 2013 memo following the mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School, which left 20 first graders and six others dead. The measure sought to block some people with severe mental health problems from buying guns.,/b>

#16 | Posted by donnerboy at 2019-05-28 06:39 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#17 | Posted by donnerboy at 2019-05-28 06:39 PM | Reply

#15 keep moving those goal posts, nimrod. We are talking about home defense. I don't use #6 to defend my home. I use buckshot, and specified it in my post.

Educate yourself.

www.theboxotruth.com

#18 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2019-05-28 06:43 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The mere appearance of a firearm dissuades the miscreant, or it has three times in my experience.

#10 | POSTED BY DOCNJO AT 2019-05-28 11:35 AM | REPLY |

So 3 people went away when they saw your gun. I think it was more likely that they were good people avoiding you the gun toting lunatic than miscreants turned away by the sight of your manhood

#19 | Posted by hatter5183 at 2019-05-28 07:13 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Wow, all these "guns" just hopped up and started killing people.

If the world banned stupidity you'd be extinct.

Thanks for being the 10 billionth person to make this unoriginal and ridiculous "point".

#20 | Posted by zarnon at 2019-05-28 09:09 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

as do slugs.

#12 | POSTED BY MUSTANG

But, how do you keep those slippery buggers from getting out and I can't imagine holes as much as splatter.

#21 | Posted by Petrous at 2019-05-29 09:04 AM | Reply

#21 I got the idea from Ghostbusters

#22 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2019-05-29 09:11 AM | Reply

Will the abortion violence reach 1 million this year?

#23 | Posted by Sniper at 2019-05-29 09:35 AM | Reply

This is the deadliest 72-hour span of American gun violence this year – and deadliest since 2017.
#1 | Posted by lee_the_agent

With half of them being suicide.

#24 | Posted by Sniper at 2019-05-29 09:37 AM | Reply

A majority of those deaths are from MAGAts killing their husbands/bothers cheating on them with their girlfriend/mother. See it all the time on Jerry Springer and Hee Haw.
#5 | Posted by MisterCarajo

You could NOT be that stupid. Well, maybe.

#25 | Posted by Sniper at 2019-05-29 09:39 AM | Reply

#6 | Posted by hatter5183

WTF is your point?

#26 | Posted by Sniper at 2019-05-29 09:41 AM | Reply

guns don't shoot people, PEOPLE WITH GUNS shoot people.

#9 | Posted by hatter5183

You are right for a change.

#27 | Posted by Sniper at 2019-05-29 09:42 AM | Reply

1. ANY shotgun is an effective home defense weapon, and tends to do significantly more damage than a handgun. Whether or not it is a BETTER choice is debatable and largely dependent on the person using it.
2. The "racking the slide scares intruders away" meme persists, but there is little evidence it is true. Personally, I believe it eliminates the element of surprise.
3. Penetration is dependent on velocity and shot size. Buckshot goes right through walls, as do slugs.
#12 | Posted by MUSTANG

And a LONG gun is not very user friendly in a small space.

#28 | Posted by Sniper at 2019-05-29 09:44 AM | Reply

Wow, all these "guns" just hopped up and started killing people.
If the world banned stupidity you'd be extinct.
Thanks for being the 10 billionth person to make this unoriginal and ridiculous "point".

#20 | Posted by zarnon

So... ... ... . the statement is wrong? Guns do just get off the shelf and start shooting?

#29 | Posted by Sniper at 2019-05-29 09:48 AM | Reply

#28 That's why I have a 20" barrel 12 gauge

#30 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2019-05-29 09:55 AM | Reply

#30 | Posted by MUSTANG If you need to take out an intruder, use #2 and #4 shot mix. 00 sounds more powerful, but the number of shot is four times that OO. 12 vs about 50 in a standard load, with more mass and weight. Less chance of the shot going trough walls too.

#31 | Posted by docnjo at 2019-05-29 08:22 PM | Reply

Ok sniper now answer me this. If people get shot by people with guns, how many people will get shot if people dont have guns? Ill give you a hint.

www.hsph.harvard.edu

#32 | Posted by hatter5183 at 2019-05-29 09:35 PM | Reply

#31 Nah...my nearest neighbor is a couple hundred yards away, and at "in house" ranges, there's not going to be much spread in my pattern. I'll stick with 00 buck.

#33 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2019-05-30 07:40 AM | Reply

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