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Saturday, May 25, 2019

When The New York Times published a secret military history of the Vietnam war called the Pentagon Papers nearly 50 years ago, the government fought all the way to the Supreme Court to prevent it from appearing in print. It charged the man who leaked them with espionage.

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A maximum penalty of 10 years in prison on each charge -- which means he would likely spend the rest of his life in prison if they don't fight this extradition with everything they have.

#1 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2019-05-25 10:18 AM | Reply

Just giving the Brits more reasons not to extradite him. Whatever happened to the Presidential candidate who loved Wikileaks so much? When they were hacking Democrats Orange Hitler loved them, now not so much. What gives?

#2 | Posted by danni at 2019-05-25 10:56 AM | Reply

The leader of AntiFa just got charged with 19 felony counts, including terrorism. What's the difference?

#3 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2019-05-25 11:32 AM | Reply

RussiaRat using the Russian tactic of whataboutism, color me NOT surprised.

#4 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2019-05-25 03:55 PM | Reply

Docnjo will stomp his feet, make angry faces, and become all red faced until his stinky anti-American hero is released.

#5 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2019-05-25 04:12 PM | Reply

If it's in Pakistan they cut off your....

#6 | Posted by Tor at 2019-05-25 07:55 PM | Reply

tactic of whataboutism
#4 | POSTED BY ABORTED_MONSON

No he's not ...

#7 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-05-25 08:03 PM | Reply

Pompeo, our very own evangelical Secretary of State and former director of the CIA said, " Every means will be found to prosecute WikiLeaks and Julian Assange." Facts don't matter, just apply the full power of the State to destroy the SOB. After all Assange is a "non-state hostile intelligence service".

Assange, not being a US citizen, is being sought for not abiding by the US Espionage Act of 1917. Drafted to combat spies as the US made its way into the First World War, the act has become a blunt instrument against journalists and whistleblowers.

The State claims, Assange "knowingly endangered the lives of journalists, religious leaders, human rights advocates, and political dissidents and did incredible harm to our national security." NO EVIDENCE IS PROVIDED IN SUPPORT ANY OF THESE CLAIMS – the claims will suffice. We are supposed believe that the US Justice Department is doing journalists and the rest of us, a big favor.

The war against Julian Assange is a war against the free speech of ALL OF US. Worse it gives license to every dictator on the planet earth to use the same techniques against all who dare expose crimes of world leaders, beginning with China and Russia and down the line.

Proving espionage actually requires proving the "intent or reason to believe that the [leaked] information is to be used to the injury of the United States, or to the advantage of any foreign nation." There is not a single example of a life lost or national security compromised traceable to Wikileaks or Assange. This case will decide the future of journalism on the planet earth. (excerpted from Binoy Kampmark)

#8 | Posted by bayviking at 2019-05-25 08:51 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

when nixon's boys broke into ellsberg's psychiatrist's office to get dirt on ellsberg...

when roger stone got his start in vote suppression and political "dirty tricks" along with lucianne goldberg who later went on to collude with linda tripp to out clinton/lewinsky

and we were in korea...and at war in viet nam

s**t just don't end does it

#9 | Posted by 1947steamer at 2019-05-25 10:19 PM | Reply

As an article from a thread posted on the back page two days earlier pointed out, if this flies then what's to stop China or Russia or whoever from prosecuting and demanding extradition of foreign citizens who publish their 'state secrets'?

#10 | Posted by sentinel at 2019-05-25 11:10 PM | Reply

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in Pakistan they cut off your....

I wish.

It would be a better country if they actually started doing that.

#11 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2019-05-26 01:08 AM | Reply

F+ it, can we just drone strike this guy?

#12 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2019-05-26 04:29 AM | Reply

Is publishing government secrets a crime?

Stealing government secrets should be the crime; publishing them should not be. However, if the publishing of the secrets leads to death or injury, the publisher should be exposed to civil liability by the injured party(ies). By the way, the government could also be an injured party because of the loss of an intelligence asset's value. Note: this would be a civil liability; not a criminal liability.

One way that I have come to regard these matters is that the government should be thankful in a way because it exposes a flaw in their secrecy protection methods; a flaw that may have allowed other secrets to have been stolen and just haven't been exposed; a flaw that needs to be corrected ASAP.

As a courtesy, the publisher should give the government a heads up before publishing so that people that could be injured (or killed) as a result of publishing can get out of harms way. This heads up could also serve as a mitigating factor in follow on civil lawsuits by injured party(ies).

#13 | Posted by FedUpWithPols at 2019-05-26 07:44 AM | Reply

Democracy and secrecy are incompatible. Voting is meaningless if a huge bureaucracy exists which is unaccountable to elected officials and whose activities are with held from the public.

But then you already know that we live in an Oligarchy, not a Democracy. The Democracy fairy tale is a method for managing people. Let them vote but burden them with debt. Make them think if they are just smart enough and work hard enough they too can be a millionaire. Secrecy makes management that much easier, especially when they are screwing you and maiming, killing so many innocent people and destroying the productive capacity of so many countries.

#14 | Posted by bayviking at 2019-05-26 08:10 AM | Reply

The utter hypocrisy of Trump, who now apparently wants to prosecute Assange here in the U.S. after praising him for stealing emails from Hillary Clinton is amazing, and those Trump supporters who went along with all of that who now want Assange extradited and imprisoned....y'all are just disgusting. No moral compass, no loyalty, no real beliefs. America is doomed if we follow this path because secrets such as the one's that Chelsea Manning revealed and that Julian Assange revealed need to be revealed. Apparently, our right wing friends want our nation to resemble the worst eras of the Soviet Union, that's not my vision of America. War crimes need to be revealed, those revealing them aren't enemies they are heroes. Those committing the crimes are the bad guys. Like I said, where is your moral compass that helps you determine which direction is right and which direction is wrong? A President who praised Wikileaks because it benefited him in an election but now wants to extradite and prosecute the leader of that organization is a confused lunatic.

#15 | Posted by danni at 2019-05-26 08:22 AM | Reply

But then you already know that we live in an Oligarchy, not a Democracy.

Democracy was never the goal.

#16 | Posted by boaz at 2019-05-26 09:24 AM | Reply

"Democracy was never the goal."

You're absolutely wrong. It was the goal until the SC decided otherwise. FDR, Eisenhower, Truman, Kennedy all believed in democracy. The right wing SC took it away from us. Pretend all you want but that is the truth.

#17 | Posted by danni at 2019-05-26 12:20 PM | Reply

Does any one remember the Pentagon Papers?

#18 | Posted by docnjo at 2019-05-26 06:22 PM | Reply

Is publishing government secrets a crime?

Yes.
/thread.

#19 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2019-05-27 11:21 AM | Reply

Is publishing government secrets a crime?

Yes.
/thread.

#19 | POSTED BY GONOLES92

Is publishing government crimes a crime?

Under Obama, yes. Under Trump, it appears so.

#20 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-05-27 11:31 AM | Reply

I have always wondered why when a journalist receives stolen property, such as ill-gotten government secrets, why he/she is not simply charged with receiving stolen property. Partisans of any ilk should not be allowed to hide behind the shroud of freedom of the press when committing a crime that anyone else would be arrested for and the property seized.

#21 | Posted by bogey1355 at 2019-05-27 12:17 PM | Reply

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