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Thursday, May 23, 2019

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., told her Democratic colleagues Thursday that President Donald Trump "wants to be impeached" so that he can be vindicated by the Senate.

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As we saw from 08-16, Hope is not a plan.

#1 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-05-23 02:53 PM | Reply

Hysterical Pelosi is really escalating the rhetoric. She must be getting ready to flip flop on impeachment hearings.

#2 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-05-23 02:57 PM | Reply

Give him his wish, he's bluffing!

#3 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2019-05-23 02:57 PM | Reply

Give him his wish, he's bluffing!

#4 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2019-05-23 02:58 PM | Reply

Raising the profile of the Trump grifter serves this country no useful purpose, but you can call it a plan, I suppose.

#5 | Posted by bayviking at 2019-05-23 03:00 PM | Reply

She must be getting ready to flip flop on impeachment hearings.

She is clearly setting the table to have a grand pronouncement that "we didn't want to do this but we now have to/were forced to..."

I am good with that, whatever it takes to get the Impeachment ball rolling is fine by me.

#6 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-05-23 03:01 PM | Reply

"whatever it takes to get the Impeachment ball rolling is fine by me."

Translation: I don't want Republicans to put their jobs on the line, I want the Democrats to put their jobs on the line.

#7 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-05-23 03:04 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

" "we didn't want to do this but we now have to/were forced to...""

I can see it now.

" It gives me great pain and sorrow to stand here today, but the villain Trump gave me no choice. I love America! America has been berry, berry good to me...bla bla bla."

#8 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-05-23 03:08 PM | Reply

#7 You don't want Democrats to put their jobs on the line, you want the Republicans to put their jobs on the line.

#9 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-05-23 03:09 PM | Reply

- I can see it now.

You can't see beyond the rwing Echo Chamber; it's all you have now.

People who don't see Trump's acts as "villainous" are just covering their eyes.

#10 | Posted by Corky at 2019-05-23 03:11 PM | Reply

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"You don't want Democrats to put their jobs on the line, you want the Republicans to put their jobs on the line."

Democrats are willing to impeach. Republicans aren't. You admitted yesterday Republicans aren't going to act against a member of their own party, which is why you excused them when we saw the obstruction in front of our eyes during the first two years.

At least you're consistent: you gave the Republicans a total pass in the first two years, and you're giving the Republicans a total pass now. In fact, you're voting for Republican enablers again and again.

But keep blaming Democrats; it's all you've got.

#11 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-05-23 03:14 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Villainous..lol

#12 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-05-23 03:14 PM | Reply

Dastardly! Sinister! Villainous!

#13 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-05-23 03:16 PM | Reply

#12 |

Bernie trolled Trump as a "pathological liar" after this non-meeting.

No wonder Trumplesheepskin is an ex-Bro Trumper now.

#14 | Posted by Corky at 2019-05-23 03:17 PM | Reply

The villain must be stopped!

pmcarpenter.blogs.com

#15 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-05-23 03:19 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

No surprise nullifart and Sheepleshart are yah teaming this thread with their nonsense.

Must. Defend. Trump. At. All. Costs...

Don't strain too hard guys, you're not actually convincing anybody.

#16 | Posted by jpw at 2019-05-23 03:26 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Democrats are willing to impeach. Republicans aren't.

Great, start proceedings then and put the Republican's feet to the fire.

Glad to see you are starting to come around.

#17 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-05-23 03:32 PM | Reply

- put the Republican's feet to the fire.

By that he means solidify Trump's waning base before it gets too low to recover.

Average voters don't follow the details as much as partisans do, and the middle will not react well to impeachment proceedings that appear to be partisan politics.

Nancy is wise to wait on them to catch up.... there is no hurry at the moment with 5 current investigations that are winning court cases and getting new docs.

There is only RoC trying not to look like the typical Republican he is.

And being a true lemming for The Donald's "bring it on" braggadocio.

#18 | Posted by Corky at 2019-05-23 03:38 PM | Reply

Too funny:

On one thread, Dorkus accuses me of "assigning motivations" to Pelosi when I say this:

thinks it is politically better to have 5 legislative Committees investigating Trump than one judicial Select Committee on Impeachment, even though that Committee would have enhanced subpoena power.

#10 | POSTED BY RIGHTOCENTER AT 2019-05-23 02:58 PM

And he retorts with:

One might have thought that even the Montessori School of Real Estate Law would have taught about the logical fallacy of assigning motivation in argument.

Obviously not.

When Nancy gets desperate enough to need your opinion on what Dems should do, I'm sure she'll call you.

#11 | POSTED BY CORKY AT 2019-05-23 03:07 PM

Then I point out that setting forth someone's stated position is not "assigning motivation":

Raskin -- a former law professor -- said he wasn't advocating impeaching Trump but suggested that opening an impeachment inquiry would strengthen their legal position while allowing Democrats to move forward with their legislative agenda.

Pelosi dismissed this argument, asking Raskin whether he wanted to shut down the other five committees working on Trump investigations in favor of the Judiciary Committee.

#17 | POSTED BY RIGHTOCENTER AT 2019-05-23 03:20 PM

Corky responds with predictable ad hominum, then adopts it as his own position in this thread's #18:

Nancy is wise to wait on them to catch up.... there is no hurry at the moment with 5 current investigations that are winning court cases and getting new docs.

It's almost like he thinks his prior posting history is invisible...

#19 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-05-23 03:48 PM | Reply

"Great, start proceedings then and put the Republican's feet to the fire."

Why shouldn't Republican Senators have the same nads as you? Are they all ignorant, or are they all partisans?

If you actually believed in impeachment, you'd be exhorting 9 Republican Senators, not the Democratic House.

#20 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-05-23 03:48 PM | Reply

-Why shouldn't Republican Senators have the same nads as you? Are they all ignorant, or are they all partisans?

I'm going with Partisans. They aren't taking any political risk they don't have to.

#21 | Posted by eberly at 2019-05-23 03:50 PM | Reply

If you actually believed in impeachment, you'd be exhorting 9 Republican Senators, not the Democratic House.

It starts in the House, Drama King...As I have said on more than one occasion, I will lead the charge to exhort all the Republican Senators to vote guilty when Speaker Pelosi presents Articles of Impeachment to the Senate.

#22 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-05-23 03:50 PM | Reply

-Nancy is wise to wait on them to catch up.... there is no hurry at the moment with 5 current investigations that are winning court cases and getting new docs.

should the same credit of "wisdom" be applied to any republican?

#23 | Posted by eberly at 2019-05-23 03:52 PM | Reply

They aren't taking any political risk they don't have to.

#21 | POSTED BY EBERLY

Exactly.

Danny wants the GOP to do the Democrats' job for them.

#24 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-05-23 03:54 PM | Reply

#19

It's almost like the Great Wizard almost gave you a brain, Scarecrow.

But obviously it was only a fake diploma...

www.youtube.com

There is nothing at all contradictory in what I said, there is only a schock lawyer pettifogging what I said to support his unsupportable nonsense.

Her "stated position" did not include your nonsensical "duty", as I explained, so you are indeed assigning motivation.

And it has been my position all along that there is no hurry to initiate impeachment until the public catches up.

So really, either I should get you a shovel, or you should just stfu and try to save yourself any further embarrassment... if that's even possible.

#25 | Posted by Corky at 2019-05-23 03:57 PM | Reply

Wow. Look at Corky twerk.

#26 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-05-23 03:59 PM | Reply

- should the same credit of "wisdom" be applied to any republican?

Wisdom is not intentionally closing your eyes and not looking for the facts.

#27 | Posted by Corky at 2019-05-23 04:00 PM | Reply

#26

Look at Sheeple run away from Bernie and into Trump's waiting arms.... it's kinda romantic.

#28 | Posted by Corky at 2019-05-23 04:01 PM | Reply

-Wisdom is not intentionally closing your eyes and not looking for the facts.

so, you're fully aware of what everyone is doing?

the view from your apartment in Naples is that good?

#29 | Posted by eberly at 2019-05-23 04:04 PM | Reply

"Danny wants the GOP to do the Democrats' job for them."

You've admitted if the GOP held the house they wouldn't impeach.

Ultimately, you don't want the GOP to do IT'S job.

Please enjoy a large glass of STFU.

#30 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-05-23 04:06 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#29

That's obviously what Republicans are doing... from any rational view. And I don't have an apartment.

Have you inflated the tires on your trailer lately?

#31 | Posted by Corky at 2019-05-23 04:06 PM | Reply

You've admitted if the GOP held the house they wouldn't impeach.

Yep.

Ultimately, you don't want the GOP to do IT'S job.

How do you figure that? The GOP is in the minority in the House. For impeachment to happen it has to start with Democrats. I am enjoying the fact that you are clearly pissed that the Democrats are in this position. You think impeachment is warranted (as do I) but you can't bring yourself to hold the Democratic Party accountable for its failure to start the process.
And, because you are hyper-partisan and won't hold the Democratic Party accountable for anything, you just assume that everybody else is the same way. That's false.

Please enjoy a large glass of STFU.

#30 | POSTED BY DANFORTH

I'll pass. Thank you anyway.

#32 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-05-23 04:11 PM | Reply

"How do you figure that? "

Actual math.

If 9 Republican Senators said what Amash did, the House would move. I'd say I don't know why you'd want Dems to start on a path that would end with pure partisan votes in the Senate...

...but I know exactly why. We both know the Senate would only vote for impeachment if the politician had a (D) after their name. You admitted as much yesterday.

What's next? Tell Sisyphus to try one more time?

#33 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-05-23 04:17 PM | Reply

-Ultimately, you don't want the GOP to do IT'S job.

or it's simply recognizing the GOP won't do ----.

#34 | Posted by eberly at 2019-05-23 04:20 PM | Reply

#34

Bingo winner.

#35 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-05-23 04:21 PM | Reply

-That's obviously what Republicans are doing.

LOL

#36 | Posted by eberly at 2019-05-23 04:21 PM | Reply

I love it how some are calling for the Dems to throw strategy to the wind.

Of course they're going to wait until a case is built that will give them the numbers in the Senate.

Anything else is making political hay for 2020.

#37 | Posted by jpw at 2019-05-23 04:27 PM | Reply

JPW don't throw me in that camp.

#38 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-05-23 04:30 PM | Reply

If 9 Republican Senators said what Amash did, the House would move.

As you are well aware, the likelihood of any GOP Senator publicly prejudging Articles of Impeachment that they may never see is nearly zero (kind of like Corky's IQ), so is it your position that impeachment will never happen?

#39 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-05-23 04:48 PM | Reply

- any GOP Senator publicly prejudging Articles of Impeachment

Most have already done so privately to CYA... to think otherwise is not to think at all. Which makes "publicly" just your lame excuse trying to pass for argument.

So, lawyer.

#40 | Posted by Corky at 2019-05-23 05:22 PM | Reply

-Most have already done so privately

LOL

#41 | Posted by eberly at 2019-05-23 05:23 PM | Reply

#41

Exactly, in Corkyworld, GOP Senators always judge "Articles of Impeachment that they may never see" privately.

#42 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-05-23 05:34 PM | Reply

Which makes "publicly" just your lame excuse trying to pass for argument.

Ummm, it has to be made "public" to meet Dannie's "If 9 Republican Senators said what Amash did" hypothetical.

Unless, of course, you want 9 random Senators to whisper it to you and Dannie "privately."

#43 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-05-23 05:37 PM | Reply

That's right. Donald Trump is a villain of an old school, right at home in some 1930's movie serial.

#44 | Posted by Zed at 2019-05-23 07:06 PM | Reply

I see that RoCheney is still on a river in Egypt about the odds of his GOP Sens ever convicting Trump even if Trump shot Joe Biden on 5th Ave... especially if Trump shot Joe Biden on 5th Ave.

#45 | Posted by Corky at 2019-05-24 12:30 PM | Reply

If Trump shot Joe Biden on 5th Ave it would be a public service.

#46 | Posted by docnjo at 2019-05-24 12:44 PM | Reply

#46

That knock you hear on your door is the FBI.

#47 | Posted by Corky at 2019-05-24 12:49 PM | Reply

#46 | POSTED BY DOCNJO

You're part of the problem.

#48 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2019-05-24 12:56 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I say look at the things they tolerate right now such as his refusal to consider any bill designed to combat Russian meddling in our elections and then ask yourself, would Senators to allow him to refuse to uphold his oath to defend the Constitution ever do the right thing for the nation regardless of what crimes the Dems can show he committed in Impeachment? We all know the answer to that question so I think I am with Pelosi on this, we need to focus on elections. Previously, I have said I was for Impeachment but now I think it would be pointless.

#49 | Posted by danni at 2019-05-24 12:56 PM | Reply

#47 | Posted by Corky I don't like Biden, he is a corrupt insider. I don't like the damn Yankee, I find him rude, a distraction with his tweets, and stupid in him rambling incoherent statements, yet he seems to listen to some of his aides that have a little sense. I do not encourage violence, it has been up close and personal too many time to count. I surely wouldn't wont a corrupt POS like Biden to become a martyr, nor do I believe Trump has the courage to pull a trigger. Can't your simple mind understand a joke?

#50 | Posted by docnjo at 2019-05-24 10:19 PM | Reply

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